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Can someone explain me this miracle of the universe?

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Can someone explain me this miracle of the universe?
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>>120393593
Anon, boring girls are anywhere.
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>>120393593
The miracle of being a boring and not fleshed out character?
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She's the most well-written character in the entire show.
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>>120393593
Megumi is a huge bitch. Just wait and see.
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>>120394141

You spelled Eriri wrong.
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Why does it feel like boring-chan is the protagonist and we're viewing the antics of a charmingly eccentric and lovable nerd and his harem of living stereotypes through her eyes?
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>>120394141
OK, I trust you anon, don't disappoint me.
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>>120394582
You will. Eriri and Utaha are the actual bitches.
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>>120393593
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>>120393593
Megumi a shit. A SHIT.
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>>120394713
>Eriri*
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>>120394582
It depends on how you define bitch, but she did walked out of MC's life without a noticed and she hurt him badly by actively avoiding him. MC was about to lose all hope of being her friend again if he didn't desperately keep trying to keep her in his life.
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>>120394713

I agree with this.
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>>120394932
Me too.
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>>120394837
I can't really blame her. I was genuinely surprised she actually continued to hang out with the MC after that restaurant scene. Their entire relationship is just him being an autist, pushing his hobbies on her and shitting on her for not being a ridiculous caricature like him or his harem.
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Most of the girl's quality range from a scale of 0 to 10, this one however is a 404
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>>120394837
Don't don't forget she was also manipulative. She did had the intention of leaving the Circle, but pretended she left to make Tomo apologize to her.
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>>120395110
didn't*
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>>120395041
Also MC ignored her for like forever. He doesn't deserve the perfection that is Megumi.
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>>120394204
Because we are.
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The point of her character is to make a plain, boring girl overshadow and stand out above colorful and archetypal girls, and the series succeeds at that.

You have to give the author some credit for it.
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>>120395493
>overshadow
She literally disappears from a scene the moment the other girls show up.
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>>120395493
Does anyone have an explanation for why this works? I'm really curious. Are we just fucking boring?
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>>120394644
Thanks anon
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>>120395596
That's part of her particular charm.
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>>120395493
She isn't plain, plain girls still has common sense,
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>>120395605
We are pretty fucking boring people outside our nepalese cave paintings so yes.
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>>120395493
Goddamn she's so fucking cute. I want to marry her
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>>120395605
Because the character's silent deadpan presence is like a tsukkomi without actually having to say anything or participate in the joke. She makes everything seem absurd just by being there and quietly distancing herself from it. Her witty and irreverent dialogue is really charming because it's a very subtle and passive-aggressive way of poking fun at the show itself. We relate to her because she's basically a self-insert for a 3rd party audience, silently watching, judging and amusing themselves at the antics of the 3 main characters without being overtly judgmental.
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>>120395493
>overshadow
She doesn't though. Not by a long shot.
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>>120395911
Then why is she the most liked? Checkmate.
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>>120395827
OP here, this guy get it. I'm about to drop my waifu for her. She is just perfect. BTW MC only deserves cuck.
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>>120396159
>I'm about to drop my waifu for her
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>>120396081
>Popularity reflects quality
Stop posting.
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>>120396081
Why does anon like a girl that is so dull and inconsequential that she's immediately forgotten about as soon as more interesting characters enter the group
I wonder.
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Why is this show so polarizing?
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>>120396332
She wouldn't be the most popular if she didn't overshadow the other heroines. Nice strawman though.
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>>120396361
It's a waifuwars harem show with an unlikable MC and constant open conflict between the heroines with polar opposite personalities and appeal.

Polarizing is the only thing it has going for it.
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>>120396345
Why does anon have such a bad opinion.
I wonder.
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>>120396194
Yeah, it's hard, but it was love at first sight, I just want her to be happy, and I want to be happy too. I can't lie to her anymore, maybe another anon can make her happy. It's my first time falling for a seasonal girl
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>>120396361
Because the retards who like the "eccentric" dramatic bitches in every harem get BTFO by the author because the best grill is a pure, innocent, plain maiden.
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Can't wait till Megumi wins. She totally deserves it.
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Have I just been missing the threads or is this show just not talked about much?
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>>120395221
Not true. MC was casual with Megumi a week or so before Eriri collapsed. Tomoya did had his reasons for not involving the other members in helping Eriri's collapse/problems as an artist, such as Utaha and Eriri's mutual dislike of each other, Eriri doesn't get along with Michiru, and Tomoya doesn't want to drag Megumi around more than he already does.

Aside from that, he stalled the project on his end to look after Eriri. He made the decisions and so did Eriri who got caught up in her pride over creating the best quality she could. In the end, they were able to complete the game, but as a result of their decision, they ended up unable to produce the numbers of copies they had wanted to make so their decision was not with consequences. Tomoya and Eriri both apologized to everyone, and the other members all didn't mind or accepted it as no big deal. What Megumi was tripping over is simply because he didn't inform her about his decisions even though they can be seen as considerate and virtuous on his end, though not with faults. Basically, Megumi's reason to be upset is quite trivial and just melodrama material.
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>>120395605
Because she's the most realistic.
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>Muh girl is the most popular
>That obviously means she's best
Megumifags are getting worse by the day. I suppose that's the fate of every rapid fanbase for the most popular girl.
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>>120396818
Nobody said that. You either lack reading comprehension or are just baiting.
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>>120396818
>Implying THK isn't behind most of the shitposts in this fanbase
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Fuck boring when Heaven and Hell are superior.
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>>120396925
Ungrateful cunts.
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>>120396925
>cunt and cunt
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>>120396909

>>120395493
>overshadow and stand out above
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>>120396972
>>120396965
Stay mad, Megumifags. At least those two are the least offensive when it comes to being a bitch.
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>>120396925
>Forgetting Purgatory

These three are better.
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>>120393593
autism
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>>120396991
I don't see anything about popularity there.
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anons, all girls are best girl
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>>120397101
>Herp derp >>120396081
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>>120397037
If you put things on a balance, Eriri and Utaha's bitch move in volume 7 outweight everything else in the series.
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It is the cycle of trend. Now we just back to the beginning.
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>>120397154
Stay delusional.
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>>120393593
Ironic joke post? She's boring and unremarkable and doesn't stand out. She's supposed to be a take on making a generic background character into a main heroine by having her stay the way she is.
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>>120397138
Not seeing anything about her being "best" due to popularity in either post. You strawmanned the fact that she is the most popular because she leaves the most impression in the readers/viewers, hence she overshadows the other girls, to talking about quality and whatnot.

Again, I hope you're just trolling because you are illiterate and an idiot if you aren't.
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>>120397234
Likewise. You're in the minority.
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>>120397238
By being the most human and funny character she does stand out.
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>>120397310
>Rationalizing his words of most liked that argues for overshadow/stand out above
>Everyone must think this way because I do
You're trying too hard.
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Let's just say that Utaha > Eriri
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Megumifags = Kosakifags = Senafags = Esdeathfags
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>>120397540
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>>120397540
>Eriri > Utaha*

Fix'd.
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>>120397553
Pure cancer.
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>>120397553
I'm a Megumifag, a Chitogefag, a Yozorafag and a Minefag.

What now?
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>>120397553
>Most cancerous in each fanbase
Makes sense.
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I haven't watched the new episode yet because the MC's voice is lame and most of the girls are boring. Should I give it a chance?
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>>120397540
Sorry, but no one is cuter than Mitcher.
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Something about the way the characters move in this show is really uncanny. Is it 'scoped from a jdrama or something?
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>>120397619
How is that possible? I thought that Minefags were Eririfags by default.
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>>120397501
Because that's me, genius. And yes, you strawmanned me with quality talk when that wasn't the point of the post. In case you still don't get it, it's about how the writer excels at making a "normal" and "plain" heroine with no apparent remarkeable features the most memorable and beloved girl, overshadowing the other more colorful and noticeable girls. Nothing about her being "best" due to popularity here.
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>>120397760
>most memorable and beloved girl, overshadowing the other more colorful and noticeable girls
No, this is just your opinion and it was until you retort back with your most liked comment that tries to support it by saying popularity is proving your statement right. You went full retard. Get over it.
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>>120397709
I'm not of that "I must like X archetype the most in each show" mindset. I just like the most interesting/entertaining girls, simple as that. This show proves that even the most boring and normal girl can be the most entertaining at the same time. It's all up to the execution.
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その瞳に映っているのはリアルそれとも二次元?
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>>120397932
You went full retard yourself by implying things to suit your argument. Remember that you challenged me without supporting yourself either. The way popularity supports my statement is that she's precisely popular because she leaves the biggest impression on the readers. The writer has one of his goals realized here. This obviously wouldn't be possible if she didn't stand out above the rest in some way and wasn't a highlight of the series. Whether she is the best or not due to this is completely unrelated and a strawman made by you.
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>>120397709
Mine is very honest with her feelings and usually pretty badass, while Eriri seem more of a dependent and shy character.

The similarities are just that both are twintailed tsundere, but the archetype alone doesn't define the entire character.
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I all ways liked characters like Utaha, but Megumi this episode was to adorable.
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>>120398290
>challenged
No, I disagreed. You brought this upon yourself the instant you went for the popular card.

>biggest impression
Says you. People can like for all kinds of reason, it doesn't have to be because she overshadows or anything such. You are still trying to rationalize your argument. It's like you're trying to tell yourself that so you will believe it instead of me.
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>>120398277
Megumi's moeness is too bad for my health.
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>>120397553
Megumifag, Marikafag, Rikafag, and fuckAgKfag here.
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>>120398746
I wouldn't have cared about your litte reply if it wasn't for the fact that you strawmanned your way hard to imply things I never said. And no, I'm not trying to convince you or anything, I'm just explaining how my argument doesn't have anything to do with the popularity = best bullshit you tried to pull.
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>Nobody is getting along
Why can't this fanbase be the all girls are best and the one you like most happens to be your favorite fanbase?
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>>120398862
Former JUSTICEfag?
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>>120397553
Eririfag, Marikafag, Yozorafag and Minefag
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>>120397553
>Implying I can only like one girl the most

Eririfag, Chitoge/Ruri/Paulfag, Yozora/Kobatofag, and Mine/Akame/Kuromefag here.
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>>120397553
That doesn't make sense. Those four are completely different characters. Even Megumi and Onodera are nothing alike.
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So why does Megumi go along with MC's shit? Does she just want to make friends?
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>>120399588

It's the least amount of work. This is a guy who would probably pester her for the rest of the school year to become his main heroine.
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Megumi a cute.

I'm totally enticed by her. I don't know why, but she's perfect.
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>>120399848
I agree, Megumi is best girl
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>>120393593
Simple. There are many flavors of ice cream, but people always come back to the "plain and boring" vanilla. Because vanilla is the best.
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>>120400253
Which girl is mint chocolate chip, because I need to get me some of that
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If it wasn't for the screencaps and fanart I wouldn't even remember what she looks like as the anime tries so hard to make her a forgettable character.
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Does Saekano have potential to be AOTY?
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I want to tug at her tails
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>>120401019

Can it beat Yahari S2?
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>>120398904
>all girls are best and the one you like most happens to be your favorite
That's for comfy comedies or SoL's. Harems will always get the waifu wars treatment. It's like clockwork.
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>>120398904
You think that'd happen with something written by Fumiaki Maruto?
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>>120400253
You can put a larger variety of toppings on vanilla too.
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>>120397540
>discount Yukino
she looks better though
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>>120397131
I-If Onii-sama says so, then it must be true.
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>>120397540
I always found girls like Utaha amazingly boring in my chinese cartoons, and here it's no different.
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>>120397553
I'm a Megumifag, a Rurifag, a Rikafag, and a Leonefag.

What now?
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>>120395605
She's pretty much how you behave in circle of friends except the overly indifferent part.
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>>120394185
How can you stand that ugly fucking fang
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>>120394837
You make it sound like it's not him who fucked up in the first place.
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>>120404934
>overly indifferent
Except she's not. If she was indifferent, she wouldn't accept the invitation out on what was ostensibly a date. If she was indifferent, she wouldn't come over to his house when invited, and spend the night there playing a galge with him.

It's obvious she's loving the attention and the bit of excitement she's getting from having a 'school celebrity' dote on her, and is just acting aloof because its her comfort zone.
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>>120405134
It's like you never meet this kind of people. They just tag along as long as it doesn't bother them. Volume 7 made it clear that Megumi avoided the group when something is bothering her.

As for being indifferent, she is as indifferent as you can get. She hardly gives a shit about her surroundings, episode 00 is a prove of this.
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>>120405105

>>120396646
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>>120402236
I wonder what her drool taste like.
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>>120405593
Yes, and? He is still the one who fucked up.
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>>120395493
>give the author some credit for it
Just about every harem setup similar to the one here does this. The only impressive part is how self-aware about it the writing is.
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Am I the only one who watches harems and picks his favourite girl and the girl he wants to win separately?

Like, Utaha hits all of my kinks but I really like the way Megumi interacts with the protagonist right now, they've got a nice chemistry.
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>>120406607
I thought that was a given? It mostly comes from who is best girl(most entertaining, visually pleasing) and deserving the MC bowl(being the most supporting, best Chemistry, etc), though they do usually overlap.
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>>120393593
She's just plain boring, that's all
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>>120393593
You're quiet interesting, aren't you?
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>>120406607
I do that sometimes but I usually just don't care about who's going to win.
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>>120393593
It truly is incredible. The power of bland.
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>best girl is the main girl

What's going on, /a/?
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>>120408456
Bland/boring/plain-chan happened.
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Reading this thread I'm actually hesitating whether I should keep watching or not.
What about guitar-chan?
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>>120405622
Bitter and saliva smells bad.
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>>120395493
So cute.
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>>120408456
We're getting deconstructed.
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>>120409197
Irrelevant.
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>>120409666
Damn it, Satan.
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>>120393593
I'm not seeing it. She's just a boring and bland girl who wouldn't even be on my radar if she wasn't the main girl as noted in the title. The other three girls from previous episodes are much better.
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>>120409687
I thank God every day I don't have taste as shit as yours.
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>>120409709
Actually i don't believe in gods, joke's on you sheep.
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>>120409709
Nah. My taste is, without question, better than yours.
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So what about the MC?
I here from various points that he seems unlikeable. Why?
He just fits in the stereotype.
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Even Japanese know Katou-chan is the best.

http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-29761.html
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>>120409649
Last time they told me I was getting deconstructed I ended up traumatized and in despair.
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>>120409945
The stereotype which is one of the most universally hated stereotypes of contemporary anime.

I like him though.
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>>120410801
Wait, that's Michiru? It's so much butchered from the LN, the fuck?
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>>120393593
If you like her so much you can go outside and find a lot of girls just like her
>inb4 3dpd whores and sluts
Nah you just haven't even tried.
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I'm kind of scared. This is the exact type of show I like, but it's because of that. I like all the characters. Eri is my favorite, but I think the obvious main heroine is Kato.
This is the type of anime that makes me scared to finish because I don't know if I can really handle one girl winning, and it's gonna be frustrating along the way if/when the girls refuse to "Realize their feelings" or whatever.
Can anyone who read the LN let me know how the romance has developed in the first 7 volumes?
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>>120409945
It's already obvious enough why he's unlikeable He's a loud obnoxious delusional faggot, the type of people who would post their shitty fanfics on MAL and attacks anyone who dislikes it.
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>>120404934
THIS
Holy shit everyone's freaking out over her while she's the usual part in a group of friends. But I guess we're on /a/ so it's expected.
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>>120410863
You can find perfect 2D girls outside now? I'll have to try it sometime.
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>>120410846
Have you even watched episode zero? We saw a lot of Michiru already. She looks good in the anime, and close enough to the design you posted.
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>>120410951
The reason she stands out is because she doesn't behave like generic anime archetype. It's like when we enjoy the MCs who aren't freaking out seeing naked girl and doing other stupid tropes i.e. acts like average human being
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>>120410801
mitcher 1 cm taller than me, fuck this life
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>>120410846
Of course I have watched the 00, and yes, she's delicious. Its just that picture above is so different. She looks so fat, her coat is quite oversized.
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>>120411093
Meant to >>120411033
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>>120397540
gotta admit I never HNNGGG'd so hard till that scene where she was mumbling while eating that melon pan.
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>>120411089
iktf, at least Utaha is my favorite
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>>120405622
tap water.
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>>120410801
Eriri's proportions are a miracle of the universe.
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>>120411093
It's just her position and the way her uniform is being held out of place by it that make it look like so. It's actually an unusually good depiction of how clothes actually behave for anime.
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>>120409945
He's pretty selfish and while he's the type that will get things done, he tends to cause other people trouble and worry along the way. It's pretty amusing because him being in charge of the circle is actually the biggest problem they have. If Megumi weren't around to defuse various situations, they'd be finished a long time ago.
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>>120410737

All anime get VNs on the fucking Vita. Can't they put it on PC too? It's not like people wouldn't buy it. And commenters under that article want it too.
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>>120411259
Maruto didn't write it. That's already enough reason to not buy it no matter what platform it's on.
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>>120411338
That's another stupidity. They have a renowned VN writer and don't have him write it.
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>>120411197
This.
You're just used to how school uniforms are ridiculously formfitting in anime, despite supposedly being normal cotton/polyester/whatever.
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>>120396925
No fuck thanks, Earth is better.
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>>120408541
thanks anon
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>>120409945
>has shit taste
>looks like a faggot
>loud
What's there to like? He even complains about 3D while having 3 hottest girls around who also are interested in anime related thinks.
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You know what makes her hot? That she's tagging along with you, even though you're boring.

Pathetic moeshit eaters.

Why is she so perfect?
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Utaha pls daminate and humiliate me
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>>120410872
>Can anyone who read the LN let me know how the romance has developed in the first 7 volumes?
Utaha and Eriri are already aware of their feelings towards MC even before the anime starts, it was explained in the spin-off mangas.

In volume 7 Utaha graduated from the highschool. She later reveals to the MC that she's leaving his circle with Eriri into the rival circle to work on a new galge project.

Eriri will get some heart-warming moments with the MC, especially during the comiket where after that her bitter past with MC is revealed, and there's also that one time where they're bonding with each other by playing their nostalgic galge together for a whole day while she's sick. After Utaha's graduation, MC is put into the same class with Eriri while Megumi right now is in a different class than him.

Pseudo imouto is quite irrelevant, but she'll probably join MC's circle and replace Eriri as the illustrator.

Megumi is by far is unclear to me if she has a romantic feelings towards him, so far the MC only looks her as the heroine model for his game and as a friend. There's a lot of things happening between them through from vol 1-5, in vol.6 after completing the game and achieved quite a success with it in the winter comiket, she left the circle. Later after Utaha and Eriri left MC, she came back again to help him with his new project. This time MC asked her to be the vice president for their circle. She agreed (and later she burst out of her character and scolded MC for how badly has he treated all his circle members while the game is in the process of making). The next month she cuts her hair back to exactly looks like her first encounter with the MC on that hill.



For now in terms of relationship i'd say that Eriri is on the lead so far. Utaha is unlikely to be relevant in the next few chapters or even until the next volume.

Personal best girl is obviously Katou.
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>>120412458
These are some interesting developments that don't really make sense. So Eri and Utaha are kind of "Betraying" the MC? Are they gonna become less relevant as heroines/love interests because of them leaving? I assume so, right?

Thanks for this though.
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>>120412458
>on the lead so far
With their own spin-off mangas, I doubt being the 'current lead' is worth anything much
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>>120412591
Wait, does this mean that there's spin-offs depicting the MC and each girl getting into a relationship or them being the main heroine or something of the sort? Because that sounds amazing.
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>>120412617
Check batoto
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>>120412458
Wow this seem like too much of a trainwreck for a harem.
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>>120412591
This. Everyone knows Megumi will win win anyway. And I am okay with that.
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>>120412784
Hm, there are on there. Just looked over the Eri one, looks satisfying enough. But the ending is kind of a bit empty though. You'd think when they have their own spin-off the MC would at least have confirmed feelings for her. I didn't read the whole thing so I might have missed something, but looks like it ends with them not really being in a relationship or completely aware of each other's feelings or anything. Although the MC might know of Eri's love, and Eri thinks he's in love with her.
Guess it's the best that can be hoped for.
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Eriri a shit. A SHIT.
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>>120413036
Took you long enough to show up.
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>>120412584
>spoiler
It depends from which standpoint are you seeing this from.
As a friend? Yes it is, but MC later accept their reasoning and justified their action.
As a content creator? No, it's normal for people to try to put themselves in a new environment in order to push their ability more and explore new things.

What's funny is that they could just go join that circle without ever leaving their current one. Doujinshi circles aren't meant to be like your typical lunatic japanese corporations.

I know a lot of anons really hate this twist, but for me it's not that 100% bad, the delivery is a bit irrational but the outcome is that we're going to see the competition between the two circles in the future which i hope would be entertaining, especially seeing Eriri's side bites the dust. Pseudo-imoutou and her brother will also become more relevant and there'll be more room for MC and Katou.

>>120412591
>>120412617
Eriri's route spin-off is already complete and they don't even go out in the end. exactly >>120412925


>>120412849
I think it's quite a decent harem. The problem might lies on how i badly summarized that spoiler. If you're interested to spare some of your time to read the original blogpost which is fuckton longer than what i wrote, then just try to look for the link in the previous threads in the archive.
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She is best. The other girls are pretty boring and generic archtypes, and ironically are more boring than the "boring" girl who is a breath of fresh air.

If MC wasn't an otakufag, he'd already take advantage of how easygoing she is and fucked her that night. She seems like she'd be pretty easy.
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>>120413588
I don't think I can overstate how disappointing this is though. How do you get your own spin-off, and the best you get is something being misconstrued into a confession, the heroine alluding to her feelings, and a promise to stay together forever as "otaku friends"

Eri deserved better.
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>>120395493
>The point of her character is to make a plain, boring girl overshadow and stand out above colorful and archetypal girls
Is it TWGOK? I actually don't mind it.
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>>120414812
god dam that TWGOK ending was bullshit.

You had to know that's where it was going when she cried over him and shit though.
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>>120410863
>Stop projecting
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>>120414975
The ending was very fitting. The process that led to it however, was a fucking mess.
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Have you ever had a girl sleep over at your place?
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>>120415227
Fuck you.
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>>120415227
Yes, we slept in the same bed and we didn't do anything further than kissing.
She was my cousin
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>>120415227
A lot of times but all of it were for study reason.
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>>120412095
She's basically /a/ personified.
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i think the main attractive point for her is that she is easy going and doesnt really mind little shit

the fact that she goes to MC house knowing how hardcore otaku he is kinda shows

unlike normal girls who will be grossed out and just avoid him
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She feels like an otome game MC in a harem show.
Or kinda like an amagami character.
Anyway the dialogs in this are great.
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>>120415227
Yes, but they weren't perfect as Megumi.
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>>120415227
Playing a dating sim with someone else must be a horrible experience.

>Haven't you finished reading yet?
>Why did you skip that?
>You picked the wrong one, now you'll get a bad end
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>>120415227
I still wonder what she smelled like here.
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Megumi is just so best is not even a contest.
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>>120415579
Nah I doubt /a/ would bear with the loud and selfish person who also has shit taste.
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