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Ok /a/ now that the dust has settled.

What went wrong?
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Nothing.

Good luck to the next Yuushas!
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>>118839274
The shitty cop out?
The lack of a soul crushing bad end?
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This guy. Because of him we all thought the higher ups were much bigger assholes than they actually were.
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Yuuna healing asspull.
They should have made a second season of the yuusha-bu fighting to save Yuuna.
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>>118839274

We got our HEALING.

Everything went better than expected.
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Nothing. It was about treasuring their daily lives, and the ending delivered that flawlessly.
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>>118839601
The twist is it wasn't a Madoka clone all along!
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I'm healed because Karin is healed.

Thank you Takahiro, you did not ruin chirstmas.
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>>118839274
1. Gin was never mentioned.
2. No sight of Tougou having her memories back even though her legs are healed.
3. Who the fuck was Sonoko talking to at the end of the LN?
4. And what the hell? So now, they all just pushed the suffering onto the other girls like that, huh?
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The same thing that happened wtih Akuma no Riddle, forget the last 12mn of the last ep.
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They didnt let Takahiro do his thing. This should have ended with Yuuna as a cripple. That would have had so much more impact. But no of course not we cant dare do that. Lets instead just massive asspull ourselves into a good end. Biggest waste of potential I have ever seen. This might even be worse then Kotoura-san in wasted potential.
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>>118839675
Season 2 when?
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Right /a/.
You are now in charge of writing the script for the last episode. You can change the plot however you want.

How would you change it?
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>>118839752
Gin comes back.
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So you think they get a pension from Taisha?
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That horrible ending, holy shit.
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Here's the last episode's Downfall edit.
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>>118839752
Extended final fight and end with Tougou screaming "Yuuna-chan!"
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>mfw this was worse than the Wixoss ending
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>>118839752
Yuuna failed to punch Tougo, thus lead to Bad End.
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>>118839752
They hold back the Vertices. They all retain the parts of them they lost. Yuuna is a vegetable, Karin is a helen keller, and they are all remembered as heroes for giving it their all to save everyone.
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>>118839675
Even if we knew Tougou got her memories back it doesn't really matter, that wouldn't be too relatively relevant anyway.
The most she would say is something like "If only I knew sooner" or so.
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>>118839752
I'd give it to Takahiro apparently for REASONS he wasn't in charge of final episode.
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>>118839752
Leave Yuuna as a vegetable.
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>>118839835
At least it wasn't as bad as Akuma no Riddle.
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>>118839274
>>118839534
>>118839593
>>118839603
>>118839675
>>118839685
>>118839693
>>118839804
please go and stay go

>>118839752
/a/ is shit
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Christmas is saved, grimderpers are mad, all is well.
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>>118839880
You can tell. They clearly removed him and forcefully rewrote everything he had planned just so they could have some shitty pointless happy end. Fuck everything. Japs just cant let a story end badly or on a bitter note can they?
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>>118839950

Denial is the first stage.
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I-It's not like I wanted YuYuYu to ruin Christmas or anything, I'm happy with this ending I SWEAR.
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Ohys raw is out.
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Was Tougou reading out the script for the play while she was crying?
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>>118839994
I know your happy that you got your pointless healing but was it really worth such a garbage as fuck disgusting asspull like that?
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>Everyone hating on the ending
Were you not entretained? Wasn't that what you wanted?
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>>118839274
I'll wait for english sub first
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>>118840043

>Taisha says they're working on it
>We know that they've improved the system before
>They work on it and improve the system

What a fucking asspull.
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>>118840044
No. I wanted an open end.
I'm waiting for a fan edit.
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>>118840044
Not everyone is hating on the ending. They're just the most vocal ones right now.
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>>118840044
> Wasn't that what you wanted?

Magic asspulls all over the place aren't good writing, even if everything is daijoubu now.
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>we're working on it!
>we're working on it!
>don't worry you'll be fine eventually we're working on it!
>they were really working on it
The twist is there was no twist.
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>>118840119

It wouldn't have happened without Yuuna being a hero, though.
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>>118839880

His final script may have been too dark even if the Heroes would still eventually recover off-camera.
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>>118840044
No, they went for the most cheap ending.
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So, was it worse than Akuma no Riddle?
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>>118840082
>Taisha say they are working on something
>Are clearly built up as a bunch of liars throughout the entire series
>Kept all of them in the dark
>Suddenly we are supposed to believe they were actually good guys in the end and fixed everything

Yeah your right, what a horrible asspull. It literally made the anime pointless.
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>>118840082
This doesn't make it better. I said it in the other thread too.

If I accept the ending, it would make it hate most of the other episodes instead. There is no liking of both.

All the previous suffering hinged on a single piece of information that wasn't even true. It is stupid.
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It's like Sora no Otoshimono all over again.
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>>118839885
Go back to Gaia if you want a hugbox.
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>>118840043
Why are you so mad about the ending? Don't you enjoy the ride and all? You shouldn't scream about how much you hate the destination when you clearly liked the ride.

>>118840148
Indeed, I like to think Togo and Sonoko's actions were the key piece for Taisha to be quick at improving the system, maybe before they were laid-back because the Yuusha were "controllable"
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>>118839994
>They clearly removed him and forcefully rewrote everything he had planned
Not until provide actual source for that.
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>>118840228

>Indeed, I like to think Togo and Sonoko's actions were the key piece for Taisha to be quick at improving the system

They were always improving the system, but they need data, which they got from Gin for the fairies and now Yuuna.
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>>118840044
I've seen this kind of asspull ending a million times already, in Genei, in Wixoss, in Nanoha, hell even in Symphogear etc. This show is absolutely forgettable now.
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LN sequel when?
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>>118839950

You people wouldn't be satisfied unless they were raped by dogs and clowns.

Seriously, fuck forced grimderp.
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>>118840119
Maybe the Taishi should have come clean with the girls after Yuuna and Tougou first met Sonoko.

> "Guys, guys! The girls know about the Sange. Should we tell them the rest to prevent them from doing stupid shit?"
> "Nah, fuck it! Girl in puberty that were just horribly crippled by our system are the most stable beings ever!"
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So does this mean that AgK is going to have a happy Christmas, too, or did YYY's share of grimderp get folded into AgK?
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>>118840228
I did love the ride but when the destination is suddenly changed from Disney World to Burger King at the last second it tends to sort of ruin all the good times you had on the ride there.
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>Taisha already said it was temporary and they will be fine
>asspull
Its your fault for not believing in Taisha and Shiju-sama
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>>118840230
>Picking on words
Yes because we didn't clearly saw the effects lasting less on her.

Why does she have to be different? It's her phone's that different. The phone's optimized because it was improved on when she got it, she's not the one who's optimized.
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If anything, it was Seiji Kishi's fault for leaving out Takahiro for this episode.
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>>118840278

None of those shows worked half as hard to make you care about and genuinely fear for the characters. It was just an emotional climax rather than a plot-heavy one.
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>>118840295
>forced
>if a series where people suffer ended in suffering it would be totally forced guys!!
If anything this is a forced happy ending
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>>118840268
Indeed.

>>118840324
Exactly, Taisha was full retards by not giving full information, then again maybe they rely to much of Sonoko.

>>118840339
You're right, still, not like this Burger King is a nice place, like, you get there and you don't know why you're there but inside they explain to you why you're there, and this there are the subs.
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Reposting because I am a faggot.

The entire thing now hinges on the fact the adults/people running it lied and never explained shit to the kids. With the kids then going off and spreading false information to each other, either to encourage change by manipulation or because they really don't know either.

So misunderstandings created a rather pointless amount of suffering and everything (but fixing the outside world) was daijoubu from the get go of the anime with too little time spent on the atual meat of the setting (the previous girls who died, production of the hero system and exploring what the sacrifices of the girls over the last 300 has been like). So instead it just kind of falls flat, not an asspull but everyone in the process is full retard.
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I can finally watch Shirobako, Oretwi, Denki, 37 in peace. Thank you Takahiro and have a Merry Christmas. You fucking double nigger.
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>Suddenly Yuuki Yuuna is garbage

Never change /a/
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>>118840295
I'd haven been more than satisfied with a happy ending if it had better writing than this episode.
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>>118840266
What the fuck do you think I'm doing right now?.
I'm talking to people.

Sounds like you don't want me to follow the tennets.

>>118839752
Leave Yuna fucked and everything would be good. Although everyone being happy was alright.
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>>118840379

They said it was going to be about treasuring the SoL, and it was. The catharsis at seeing them realize that everything will be okay was worth the entire ride.
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Nothing was wrong. The only problem was pacing at the end but it wasn't bad. Grimdarkfags just mad.
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>>118840372
>Her system is optimized
>Each of her mankai lasted for only a moment compared to everyone else.
Sure.
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Taisha wish you all merry christmas
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>>118840421


Bad endings can ruin a series. More news at 12.
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>>118840421
nah, it just few edgy people who didn't get their grimdark end and call it asspull
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>>118840410

Different shows for me, but the same sentiment. I've barely been able to watch anything for three weeks.
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>>118840449
Thank you, Taisha!
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>>118840421
I don't think any end could have satisfied the hype that has been built up in the last few weeks.

But invalidating a big chunk of the series while making EVERYONE look like a fucking retard in the process is not daijoubu.
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>>118840408
Exactly, that was the deal, Taisha's big mistake was to not fully inform the Yuusha about the stuff, or give them updates about their improvements for the system, then again, What can you expect from a bunch of people that praise a Tree?
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>>118840372
>Why does she have to be different
GOD FUCKING DAMN IT.

Because if she isn't fucking different, it's not optimized or an improvement.

Therefore, the entire fucking argument (proof) that there was a mention that the system is being upgrades is wrong and not in the goddamn anime.
And you could easily fucking assume that the anime gave no shits about the LN and ignored the past system; that everything was always the way it was.
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>>118840480
Have fun!
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>>118840381
Wixoss reinvented suffering
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>>118839274
>dust is settled
We wait for subs before that. But I understand those who are disappointed, even though I'm not.

Series spent a lot of time on the characters, allowing us to connect with them. That was great, but this final episode seemed to suffer from a lack of breathing room between the highs and lows. Karin's suffering benefited from the week break between episodes, so most people seemed to feel that shit pretty strongly. Hard to feel the same level of pain in this last episode because there wasn't any time to soak that shit in.
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>>118840443

She clearly had low hero aptitude. Made up for it by having huge actual heroism.
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>>118840295
Not him, but there are obvious things that haven't been explained.

What happened to the remaining Vertexes outside?
What happened to the hole?

And this is just my guess, but if you take the plot from the VN to be canon, then what happened to Fu and Itsuki? Their living money comes from the Taisha.
Is the Taisha tsun enough to give them their living allowances but not reply to their messages?
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>>118840467
>Lead to believe that there were very obvious and massive consequences
>Shown these massive consequences
>Lead to believe Taisha was a bunch of liars keeping the girls in the dark
>Shown that they were
>Suddenly the consequences no longer matter and the Taisha were right and good guys all along

I call that a pretty massive asspull.
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You should be glad the ending manage to weed out the retards from the fandom, leaving only a few good people to appreciate it for what it was.
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Taisha is your friend.
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>>118839274
lack for sonoko and wasshi with the ntr lesbian sex for their healed beautiful bodies
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>>118839274
There was nothing wrong with the ending the problem was that it should of been over 2 episodes. They recovered too fast and the last scene should of been signs of Yuuna recovering.

That being said Sonoko and Washii reunion OVA when.
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Majikoi x YuYuYu crossover when?
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>>118840556
>I like people who have the same level of appreciation as me
Yes and faggots who can't understand people who are upset about something truly have the correct elitist mentality.
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>>118840556
Same shit happened with Madoka, and then again with Rebellion. Now that fanbase is ruined from all its shitposting.
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>>118840550
no, you are.
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>>118840547
Indeed, but I like it since it's a multipedia proyect so I will wait until reading/watching everything because there is a good chance the questions are going to be answered there

>Is the Taisha tsun enough to give them their living allowances but not reply to their messages?
I bet that shit is automatic so it sends
"It'll be daijobu, just wait" every time.
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>>118840443
Means she suffers less with the ability to get the job done, just in a shorter amount of time.
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>>118840594

I really want some OVAs.
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>>118840528
>She clearly had low hero aptitude
What fucking proof do you have that she had low level aptitude? Did you made that out of your ass as a justification?
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I-It was a Slice of Life after all you guys, the ending fits the SoL genre, no?
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>>118839274
Wait I thought it hasn't aired yet?
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>>118840517
Her system is optimized, it's not her. Did you even look at that screenshot the other anon posted?
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>>118840625
>School
>Slice of Life
"...where club activities involve dealing with a mysterious being called "Vertex".

You honestly want me to believe that this being named "Vertex" would be a fun guy to hang out with in school?
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>>118840342
It was temporary for this generation of yuushas. Everybody else got eventually logged. Taisha are still retards, but at least they saved these girls.
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>>118840625
Yeah and? I can list a few different anime listed as slice of life that ended up being massive grimdark style suffering fests.
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>>118839752

Everyone that survives stays a cripple.

The argument between togo and yuuna does not end in a beat down convincing. Yuuna subdues togo but neither change their stance. Yuuna logs herself to kill what made it in and somewhat patch the hole.

>S2

Few year time skip, everyone is still depressed and in combat. Nothing is completely fixed, but they are more open with what being a hero entails (LN is animated here, finally showing viewer the backstory).

From here I don't really know where to end it. It's up to your interpretation if you think the taisha were not lying about 'just wait it will heal' or if the whole sacrifice process feels cheap. No one dies anymore, but it's down to how you feel about consequences sticking which will determine if you think the ending we got was acceptable (because it was mentioned multiple times that everything was fine) or if it's bullshit because it's no long a sacrifice and goes against information and preconceptions on what we were told early on.

For the most part it just needed 4~ episodes more. With time to deal with taishi, being cripples and rolling the dice on pretty much the same ending.
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>>118840517
It's not even about Karin, it's about the system she was given. The system was improved upon, that was the whole point in this. Are you fucking retarded?
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>>118840665
Not that anon but when Gin died they mentioned recruiting people from all the country and someone else from the families, that one is Karin, maybe she just happened to be the girl with most hero aptitude than the remaining girls from the families, but Karin still has less than the other 3, also she couldn't control the Axes at all so maybe it's also that.
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>>118840372
If it is more optimized, why did she lose 2 eyes and 2 ears at the same time? Other people only lost 2.
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>>118839835
I told you all it wasn't a very good anime.
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>>118840625
Looks like generic shitty SoL anime

And Vertex? Is that the name of Student Council?
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>>118839752
>everyone else is healed but Yuuna is a vegetable who gave it her all to save them
>nice little ending scene with her showing slight signs of improvement
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>>118840765
And why did she recover in less time, a lot less time?
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>>118840769
Neither is WIXOSS, we're in the same boat pal.
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>>118840527

this. should have been like an hour long episode with Yuna maybe recovering SOME functionality near the end (but not all) giving hope. Should have probably shown more of the heroes trying to get back what they lost, maybe Karin trying and having a lot of trouble doing her sword dance again or Togo going to physical therapy. But slowly they would get better and put on the play. Maybe wheel Yuna in so she could watch it, and afterwards with Togo she could start her recovery.

I dont think it's an asspull because we are shown that Shinju is not cruel or a dick god. After watching the fight like they did it's not out of the question for a merciful god to decide they deserve something better.

it's also clear the vertex are still around. their would is still just a little bubble of heaven for them in the middle of hellfire, but they were willing to sacrifice everything to defend that.
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>>118840668
The stream for last episode just done around an hour ago.
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>>118840772
>Looks like generic shitty SoL anime

Well, it ended like one.
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>>118839752
At the end in ED section Gin it's actually taisha using her body come to them and say new heroes need their help, yuuna smile THE END
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>>118840666
>it fits with the SoL genre
>show intent on making a new sort of SoL
You can't make your own path in something and then turn around and say you want to go back to the source.

>>118840695
Again, how is her system optimized?

''it just is'' isn't a fucking valid answer.

>>118840746
And how was the system even improved upon if she wasn't fucking different from the girls who didn't have an improved system?

>>118840755
Hmmm makes sense.
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>>118840772
Vertex is a name of a big guy
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>>118840831
>Gin is god
Everything is forgiven.
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>>118840776
Exactly what I thought.
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>>118840720
>I can list a few different anime listed as slice of life that ended up being massive grimdark style suffering fests.
those you can call them asspull if you want. But this one already state as SoL so its not an asspull.
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All I care is if the fights are good, I don't care about any of the characters.
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>>118840710
The only one who got logged was Sonoko, and even she healed.

At least she could have stayed crippled and being allowed to die in peace instead of MAGIC HEALING HURR DURR.
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Shitty ending but at least it was better than Madoka's
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>>118840776
This works well.
It really didn't need a complete 100% recovery.
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>>118840825

Ah. Guess I'll wait for crunchyroll then.
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>>118840845
How wasn't it improved on when she clearly had the effects of mankai last for a shorter period of time? I already mentioned this earlier, maybe you should actually read the replies before you spout your anger all over the place.
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>>118840813
Gundam Seed Destiny had an hour long ending and it really worked out.
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>>118840878
12 years old detected.
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>>118840776
It would have been nice, then again it seen the ending scenes cover a lot of time so maybe a year happened before Yuuna recovered.
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>>118840400
The Taisha went full retard when Gin died and Sonoko and Sumi were crippled, they were so shocked that they felt they had to keep the truth secret and avoid all unneccesary contact with the girls because they couldn't get over their own emotions caused by the girls suffering. They were trying to help them but it was all solely material support, no emotional or moral support from the Taisha and no chance for any from anywhere else because the Yuusha's existence was secret.
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>>118840799

She didn't, she sensed it like she did in her first episode, hence the SOKO KAAA.

>>118840813

We did see them getting better, but it was important that the culture festival sketch was the capper, too. I wouldn't mind an OVA showing them slowly recovering in more detail, though.

I actually had the feeling for a while that it would turn out their disabilities would improve, but only if they kept trying to use them rather than giving up and trying to get on without them, hence Itsuki starting to mouth words rather than write them.
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>>118840886
And how did humanity survive those 300 years? I doubt Wasshi's generation were the first yuushas.
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Should I finish the LN before watching the last ep?
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>>118840985
>no emotional or moral support from the Taisha
I don't get how the hell they didn't try to use the homeroom teacher to support them like the Sonoko team had, it worked fine damn it.
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>>118840803

Is part 2 that bad? I haven't started it yet. I was expecting it to like body swap around a bit more and explore how/why the fuck magic cards even exist, whilst also going tama = ruu at age 3 and dealing with what's left of the faux incest relationship.
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I told you all, Togo was right all along.
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>>118841020
Yes
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>>118841026
>Takahiro punches grimdark fags
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>>118840044

>Were you not entretained? Wasn't that what you wanted?

Suffering and death
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>>118841020
Yes, I finished ~10 minutes prior, definitely worth it.
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>>118841014
They sacrificed little girls to keep the barrier up.

The hero system only went online 2 years prior to the anime events.
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You guys aren't really going to make this the episode thread, are you? I'd prefer a more proper one when the subs release.
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>>118841044
they deal with
>the body swapping
>what the wixoss system is
>conclusion to the incest relationship
but they completely drop the Ruuko is scary subplot
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Can we hope for an OVA? from Taisha perspective
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>>118840854
>Big guy

The big bad bully?
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>>118840999

i know we saw it but i think it should have lasted longer and maybe shown that it required more efforts to get back what they lost.
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>脚本 上江洲誠

Seriously? let him in charge last episode?
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>>118841152
A big guy for you
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>>118840845
>''it just is'' isn't a fucking valid answer.
Why wouldn't it be? This isn't something we're implying, this was stated by a character and why would there be any reason to assume she's lying or wrong?

With that logic you might as well question almost everything said in any show.
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>>118841122
>I'd prefer a more proper one when the subs release.
>not watching and understanding the raw during the livestream.

We told you to step up, Anon. We told you to step up.
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>>118841045
Togo was fucking wrong the whole time, she assumed Shinjuu was sacrificing them but Shinjuu was just keeping them alive until he perfected the Hero system. The entire Togo arc was pointless.
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>>118841152
The big bad bully who threatens to shut down the club for whatever reasons.
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>>118841086

Can give me some link to that LN?
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>>118841133
>ruuko
>scary
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See you for Symphogear S3, guys.
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>>118841188
>why would there be any reason to assume she's lying or wrong?
Because everything the girls knew was wrong. That was the source of all the drama.
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>>118840813
Needed either an extra episode, or shift in pacing.

Should have been
>Episode: Karin's suffering(ep11)
Breathing space
>Episode: Yuuna confronts Tougou, takes more time on bringing them all to stop the giant fireball instead of just suddenly everyone and Karen throwing themselves at it, maybe add more combat
>ends with them all lying in the circle with Tougou going "Yuunachannn!" with her not responding
Breathing space
>Last Episode: Goes back to SOL roots with the cripples slowly getting back to form and processing Yuunas condition until blah blah she's fine again, END

Basically split last episode in half, airing with a week span in between. I'm not sure an hour block finale would have the same impact as that week of suffering that came after Karin, so not that.
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>>118841182
At least it's not nice boat ending.
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>>118841189
>Not understanding 40-60% of SoL shows based on watching anime for years
/a/ is so fucking pleb
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>>118841224
Search the archives.
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>>118841148
Friendly reminder that this person is a shitposter and is stupid beyond comparison.
Do not give him serious replies.
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>>118841192

Why? Tougou thought that the situation was hopeless for them, Yuuna showed her that no situation is hopeless when you have HEROES.
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>>118841236
I expect great things
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>>118841224
https://mega.co.nz/#F!U04GEQQa!z8w56NlX6ZUOd8Ghx9-iRw
https://mega.co.nz/#F!egwhCQzL!AQjVG4kTl3y5orB3OcMrxA
But just because Merry Christmas.
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>SOL show with misunderstandings as the main source of drama
>everything resolves when the misunderstanding is cleared
I don't see what everyone's problem is
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>Continue living your lives as students.
The Taisha were the good guys.
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>>118841242

Agree. Kari's thing was so powerful because we didnt know what would happen with her. ending the ep with Togo screaming for Yuna would have a similar effect, then week breack with everything freaking out. Then the last episode of them slowly getting back to health.
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>>118840550
They Taisha were not right and were not the good guys. They were improving the Hero system all along out of self preservation and were only working on the material side and not treating the girls properly as people. And probably this was because of their own grief over what happened to the first three girls and their inability to overcome the problems before the vertexes appeared again, requiring them to send more girls out to fight with defective equipment.
Sonoko's refusal to transform when the Taisha came begging was her bringing home to them the point that the couldn't go on treating the girls this way. And when she did that no one, Taisha included was sure that the handicaps would go away even though they were working hard on it. Really its irrelevant that the girls were cured in the end, they were put through excessive mental torment that almost broke them and ended the world.
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>>118841044
It was equally as good, with better pacing and more stuff happening but with less creepy atmosphere and some things are abandoned like scary ru. Still it is my favorite bishoujo anime of the year, I just couldn't get into the yuushas for some reason to care about them.
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>>118841307

THANK YOU BASED ANON!

Take your gift with pic related
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>>118840813

I think the problem is using the world sacrifice and then talking about sacrificial rituals to gods for power. When the final result is not a sacrifice, but an inconvenience to these girls for a few months. That leads the viewer on and is a lie on the concept and the whole basis of the drama and suffering.

A little more focus and exposition on the fact 'it's a crazy prototype, magic and shit we don't know how or why it werks, it just does' would have been better. Because it comes off as if they know they have the solution of no longer needing to actually sacrifice people for power anymore and just horribly mishandle the situation completely demeaning all the sacrifices before these girls who just recover.
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>>118841242
This anon gets it.
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>>118841259
Your beloved YunaTogo OTP won. Leave YunaKarinfags alone.
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>>118841236
Oh yeah, this is what this thread reminded me of.
>WHY DON'T SWAN SONGS KILL PEOPLE ALL THE TIME THIS IS BULLSHIT
>KEYWORDS? THE FUCK ARE THOSE
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>>118841297
I am fine with just more Aoi.
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Wait, I haven't seen the end yet but was there a copout happy ending?

Sounds like every mahou shoujo ever. What's the problem?
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>>118839274
>mfw fucking MAL was right all along
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>>118841473
>What's the problem?
muh edgy dark ending
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>>118841259
>Being this delusional
You're must be one massive faggot.
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>>118841473
No problems here, I was never this healed
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>>118841495
In other words /a/ still isn't familiar with the genre.

Typical
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Nothing went wrong. It's healing! I'm glad the ending is happy and not traumatizing
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>>118841473
>What's the problem?
Not madoka enough to call it a ripoff.
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>>118841547
Exactly, bad luck for them, I love it.
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>>118841192
No it wasn't. The world is still fire in the end.
They really should let Tougou have her way, at least an edgemaster ending is more coherent than this Taisha Propaganda end.
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>>118841473
"It could've been handled better, but wasn't bad", is what a reasonable person would say. /a/ are still blinded by rage (for no real reason).
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>>118841192
No, the Taisha was treating them with uneeded cruelty by keeping the girls isolated and in the dark about both the past and the future because THEY couldn't face the emotions of making the girls fight with defective weapons they couldn't figure out how to fix or how to heal the damage caused.
Sonoko got Tougou to rebel in order to make them face how they were treating the girls and, hopefully they have changed, that the girls WERE cured was pure luck for them. It didn't change that the Taisha's behavior was bad and nearly undid all the work they were doing on the material side by breaking the girls before the system was fixed.
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>>118841394
>better pacing
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>>118841520
My PTSD is cured
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How do you think this ending will affect the sales?
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Wow fuck you /a/, I'm glad the ending is happy
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>>118841603

Give people a week or few days to process things and it will settle.
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>>118841473
>Sounds like every mahou shoujo ever.
not Madoka

>mfw every show tries to be the new madoka but has a copout in the ending
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>>118841450
They deserve to made fun of for how stupid they are, and how they treat Karin and Yuuna as disposable fodder.

>>118841513
>You're must be
Whatever you say.
It's obvious to everyone else.
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All those people who were expecting a CHRISTMAS IS RUINED ending backpedaling now.
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I haven't been this healed since the ending of Gochiusa.
Thank you, based Takahiro and Gokumi.
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>>118841259
That screenshot and you thinking it paints YOU in a positive light over a simple character fan makes me feel sick. You're so gross.
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>>118841599
>"No, I'm joking"
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>>118841473

I loved it. Most series don't manage to make you care about and really fear for the characters' safety like this one did, so you're too busy experiencing their relief as if it were your own to be caught up in analyzing it as a work of fiction. It was always going to end with an emotional rather than story-based payoff.

>>118841696

There were some dark times over the last week of discussion, but I'm glad I never gave up hope.
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>>118841603
>"It could've been handled better, but wasn't bad"
I think this is the overall general reaction.

Everyone is always very emotional after watching something, especially for a show like this one.

>>118841624
Who knows.
We still don't know how much sales are stacked due to the silly backorder problem.

>>118841696
I'm somewhat happy that Christmas wasn't ruined.
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>>118841592
In what way is this a Taisha Propaganda ending? The Taisha almost failed and were saved by a combination of luck and the mind of a crippled yet determined teenager. The Taisha were incredibly stupid and allowed a bad setback- bad but a single one- to push them into a emotion based decision that inflicted extra and un-needed suffering on the people they totally depended on for their survival.
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I'm just so happy for them that I still can't stop crying. Every time I wipe them away the tears just keep rolling back.
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How was it explained that they regained their parts?
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>>118841742
>"It didn't sound like you were"
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>>118841411

so far we dont have any way to know if the 'sacrifices' where permanent or not at the time they were made. I think they were, but something happened in that last fight. Either they got enough data that an improvement in the system could be made or Shinju, after watching these girls fight with all their hearts decided that a change was needed. in that case the only reason it improved at all was because of what they did, because as far as they knew it WAS permanent but for the sakes of their friends they were still willing to go that far.
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>>118841485
They're completely right.
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>>118841394
>It was equally as good
You can't be serious. I loved S1, it was a great experience, but S2 was terrible.
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>>118841473
happened a bit too fast, karin's multiple mankai feel pointless now for example, she didn't have uh, enough time to suffer in the real world before recovering
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Only the original creator can do it right. Never ever try ripping him off, you'll eventually rip off the asspull ending.
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>>118841763

I started crying when Karin showed up. She was the real hero for me.
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>>118841764
asspulls
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>>118841712
Really, do you think this going to fool anyone?
You're a proven samefagger and shitposter.
>a simple character fan
A "fan" who shits all over them and uses them as a product for trolling is no fan.
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>>118841624
It's obvious, elevens are calling bullshit too. Expect 6k tops to what could've been 9k.

That ending was most likely the reason why the BD went on sale before the last episode.
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>>118841801
I always say 13 eps is a bit short for anything. 25 is the way to go, I got scared when they started making 10 eps shows instead.
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>Suffering
LOL BEST ENDING EVER
>No suffering
FUCK THIS SHOW EVERYTHING IS RUINED
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>>118841824
Man, Karin coming out of nowhere to help was such an unexpected and welcomed surprised.
Everyone completely forgot about her.
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>>118841764
There are some theories going on, but for now, >>118841832 .
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>>118841411
>'it's a crazy prototype, magic and shit we don't know how or why it werks, it just does'
Taisha confirmed for adeptus mechanicus PRAISE THE EMPRAH
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>>118841685
You are making yourself look even worse than those Korrasamifags. I love Yuuna/Tougou but there is no need to bash other ships just because they post that one image.
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>>118841696
It really makes me laugh, they've been calling a bad ending since when? The first week when the first two episodes aired back to back? Hell, this whole week was unbearable with the "TAKAHIRO WILL RUIN CHRISTMAS" (and not only in YuYuYu's threads).
I'm glad to see them backpedaling as you say and "accepting" this shitty ending as if this show was a "normal" Mahou Shoujo or Slice of Life. Grimderpfags are the worst.
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>>118841860
oh course. it should've ended like madoka.
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>>118841860
>everything is either one way or the other
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>>118841845
it could do with a few one-hour specials like UBW
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>>118841835
What did you think of the final episode?
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>>118841842
Just proves that Japan is as retarded as the US is.
Clearly the story is too complicated for them.
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>>118841864
>Everyone completely forgot about her.
More to that everyone assumed she couldn't fight anymore/too fatigued.
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When I saw this thread I thought it'd get no replies because it was just another /v/ copypasta bait opener.
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>>118841835
Not to mention that you demean everything about the character by treating them the way you do.
A "fan" does for force them into their shipping garbage.
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>>118841820
As expected of the master.
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If Yuna lets you pull her ass, will you do it?
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>>118841624
>preorder cancelled
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>>118841495
Can you fuck off? The only reason people hyped this show so much was because of the dark and edgy suffering.

When the ending makes itself happy by revealing the characters were just overreacting morons working off of misinformation, that sucks.

I do not mind happy endings. I would have liked it if the characters did something that caused the healing and they earned the happy ending.

But the way it is set up now: There was no way the heroes could lose because they were immortal and Mankai is more than strong enough to kill all the Vertexes. And all they needed to do to be happy again is wait a few months instead of flipping out like a bunch of psychos.

I wanted an ending that did not make everything in the show pointless.
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>>118841914

She was, but she did it anyway, because she's a real hero.
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>>118841790
I enjoyed them about as much, infected was only better at the creepy atmosphere.
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>>118841894
I like how everyone was posting that thing about a shop having a corner with happy stuff about the series so people could open the ending with open arms and everyone was scared of bad end.
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>>118841947
Calm down moron. The sacrifices were permanent. Only with the new combat data they were able to improve it.
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>>118841947

They wouldn't have been happy again if Yuuna's heroism hadn't given them the data to improve the system.
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>>118841891
>bringing up /co/
As if it wasn't already obvious who you were.
>there is no need to bash other ships
The shit itself is degrading to both of their characters.
And you are using to to troll. So not only are you degrading the characters with your shipping, you are make piss poor quality posts in a public fashion.
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>>118841947
>I wanted an ending that did not make everything in the show pointless.
Pretty much this.
Even an asspull like Yuna somehow punching hell itself out of existence so that everyone has a happy ending is consistent with the hardships endured in the story.
Everyone getting better by the end was just silly.
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>>118841947
>I wanted an ending that did not make everything in the show pointless.
I honestly feel the same way but it's not true, the system improved, they moved on, it feels pointless but at the same time doesn't because the suffering was still very much real.
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All things must heal
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I'll remember this show for the faeries, at least.
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On the subject of ships, I bet we're going to see some more of Fuu and Karin after this episode.
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I want to tenderly love Fu.
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At least the Yuuki here survived this season.
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>>118841965
Such a great Yuusha, she isn't my favorite but damn she's sexy.
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>>118840877
>Its classified on MAL as a slice of life
>Its not an asspull just because its listed as a Slice of life so any bad or lazy writing is completely okay
>Its listed as a slice of life but actually ends up going a different route with it
>Sticks to their guns and goes all the way with the ending
>Thats an asspull

You drink too much Alcoholic Eggnog there partner?
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Stream Anon, where you at?
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>>118841891
>just because they post that one image
>they
It's one person, two at best. And it's not just "some image", it's the concept behind it. The image is insulting. You could be saying the words instead and it'd amount to the same thing.
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>>118842081
I'm here, waiting for HS to be out on nyaa.

Streaming EO in the meantime.
https://www.connectcast.tv/azebu
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>>118842073
Let people defend this horrible ending with all they got, it's fun to read them.
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>>118841394
>It was equally as good
You must be out of your mind.

It had terrible pacing, useless characters, with a lot of filler stuff happening until the last 3 eps where everything started to go way too fast. Ruuko also turned from a socially inept girl with a slightly warped mind -more prone to do things because society saw it as the good thing to do rather than something she really wanted to do- to your generic "Friends are awesome" MC
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>>118841873
>>118841411
It was only told from the girls point of view. So there was no way they could of known this.
You are right though that the whole conflict in the story is the Taisha's refusal to face up to the defects in the system. But we did get to see outside the barrier, they did have no choice but to have the girls go out and fight to buy time.
The girls (and the audience who care about them) got lucky that the Taisha's engineering and medical sections apparently found a material solution that healed them. There was no foreshadowing of this because they got lucky this time, it did not have to happen this way.
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>>118842108
There are two ways to defend this ending.
1) Like a retard.
2) Not like a retard.
That Anon falls into 1), can't be helped.
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>>118842110
Are you describing yuuki yuuna?
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The only problem with the ending was that Yuuna didn't kiss Tougou.
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>>118842173
Probably Spread.
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>>118842041
But its real life anon.
Soldiers come back from war crippled, with no guarantee of recovery.
Modern medicine, spurred by the number of wounded coming back devises new treatments and does, in the end, physically heal them.
But mentally? This is left unanswered, deliberately.
If there is a sequel they will have to address it.
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>>118841947
>I wanted an ending that did not make everything in the show pointless.
Translation: wars should never end with peace treaties.

/a/ is full of idiots, as always.
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>>118842113
The fact that it showed the Taisha to be lying and for the reason why everyone was saved was because they were telling the truth is really just annoying.
Especially since we know literally nothing about what they're doing and it wasn't foreshadowed in any way.
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>>118842184
You. I like you.
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>>118842196
>you will never know why she is kowai
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Guys, the Vita game might have the real ending.
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>>118841624
first BD will be fine but expect the 2nd to last of time to plummet
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>>118842184
She did lewder things.
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>>118842210
Yeah, well, I'm not saying it's perfect but I don't see how they'd address that now, they did it well enough during the rest of the show though.
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I want a 4-episode OVA series. An episode about them slowly recovering, an episode about Tougou and Sonoko, an episode about them finally finding those FUCKING KITTENS a home, and a super-subtexty episode about Yuuna and Tougou.
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>>118842234
Real ending as in suffering?

You'll have to wait for the LN movie if you want suffering ending I imagine.
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>>118842184
They got so close to each other, and did interlocked fingers too. Watching it in the stream was one thing, but I'm gonna doki doki all over the place with the 780p and subs.

Maybe kiss in season 2 or vita game.
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>>118842226
>YYY posters use to invade Wixoss threads
>now Wixoss posters invade YYY threads
the tables have turned now!
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>>118842210
But its not a story about real soldiers.
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