Thanks Sunrise for once giving the right guy for a tsundere bitch. No beta guy who takes all the shitty treatment, instead a man who will slap her shit if she's behaving incorrectly. And see, it works as she did go dere after that.
>>117806689 Never. Reiji was fighting almost at Meijin level by episode 6 which is already world level. He was talented enough to be a complete scrub and still be Fellini's equal in training to figure out how Gunpla battles even work.
Plavsky Prince is literally newtype ace talent in solid form. The only person who can beat him without using something like Embody is Meijin Kawaguchi the 2nd because it's implied he personifies Embody Yuuki, except it was natural to him instead of being forced.
>>117806769 Reij got his ass kicked by Mejin that's why that fight was not shown properly.
Honestly Reij relied heavily on Sei's machine which is why he got as far as he did, from the packs and all the various equipments, Sekai has far superior plasvky particle control , since most of his techs aren't unique to build burning.
Reiji has better long range and equipment competence and general piloting competence but it terms of everything else he doesn't hold up.
>>117804684 the lesson sei learned at the end of buildfighters was that you can rebuild your gunpla, i feel like the "builder feels the pain of the gunpla" is seis way of saying "FUCK YOU REBUILD YOUR FACE"
>>117807105 Of course but that's simply build quality, even if you gave the machine to Reji he wouldn't suddenly be able to pull of the techniques Sekai can which is the whole point and why his particle manipulating is far more lacking even by the end of Season 1.
>>117807105 Not only that, but the strike variants that Sei had Reiji pilot stunted him because they were built off of Sei's ideal image of a pilot, which is a mid-to-long range fighter, forcing Reiji, who was very much a close-range focused fighter, to change his fighting style to match that when they weren't using the RG system.
>>117807309 That's general piloting, again the fact Reji showed simultaneous focused point defense something theoretically all gunplay can do makes the massivegulf between the two in that respect pretty obvious,
Reji is a jack of all trades master of none. Sei is specialise to a ridiculous degree but what he excels at is comparable to what Reiji can do in the same aspet.
>>117807381 well, the burning is an evolution of the build strike cosmos, so ofcourse its stronger, but i think the fact reiji took out 8 fighters in a ball says he is a better pilot, sekai doesnt seem like he could take on 8 zion pilots, he can take out a mobile armor sure but in enmass unarmed doesnt work as well
>>117807420 Honestly Season 1 was a let let all that build up to the final Mejin fight that really didn't happen properly. If S2 has a proper good climax with enough build up to it I'd put it above S1 based on that alone.
>>117807451 Again the point is that almost none of Sekai's techiques outside of the fire ring in the episode are unique to build burning. They would be less powerful sure but he can still do them without that specific gundam and those techniques are things Reji just plain doesn't have, and didn't develop that way.
>>117807420 >bad pacing How. >misplaced spotlight Again, how. >forced drama What drama? Yuuma being a dick? Gyanko's overly-dramatic defeat? >love triangle bullshit Still better than the forced romance bullshit of S1 between Reiji and Aila.
>>117807251 If you gave Reiji the Build Strike Cosmos which is still over 2 generations behind the Build Burning Gundam he would have raped Yuuki instantly the moment they met.
You're being delusional just because Build Burning is specialized. Reiji wouldn't even need techniques. He can just beat the shit out of them because they can't fucking hurt him or hit him.
You act like Reiji wasn't the guy who could beat up multiple adults no problem and only got a fucking sprain from getting hit by a metal on his wrist protecting a girl. Sekai had to train just to get that strong and we've only seen him deal with kids. Reiji was ready to fuck with the Gunpla Mafia with no more than his bare hands.
>>117807615 > bad pacing how > misplaced spotlight how Unequal screentime of importance of main characters and underdeveloped rivals Also, scrub vs scrub being more exciting show >what drama? yuuma being a dick One of them, amongst many other. I will concede on this though because in the end everyone is laughing. >still better than forced newtype romance It was also fucking onesided, the rest of the shipping is far, far better development than anything ever shown in TRY
>>117807674 Build burning is not specialised that's the whole point. outside of fire ring it has no notable techniques at that. All the shit Sekai does is Haoh martial arts and increased particle control. The point is is without Sei direct particle manipulation techs Reiji wouldn't have gone to the grand final. , Whereas Sekai with with a well built but fairly lacking in advanced techs can compete based on particle manipulation alone.
>>117807381 >Reiji has a close fight with Yuuki by episode 6 >Reiji was already rivals with Fellini after they met meaning he didn't get shat on >Reiji insta-gibbed Ral before Ral could do anything >Reiji's suit is not tailor made to him >Reiji's suit never got plavsky bullshit bailing him until Build Knuckle + RG system >Sekai got owned by Ral just changing the damn stage and couldn't even break past his shields when Reiji 1 shot him >Sekai lost to Minato like a chump, a builder who has no interest in fighting >Sekai's suit is tailor made to him >Sekai's suit got plavsky bullshit right from episode 1 and has the highest spec gunpla in all 9 episodes by a wide margin with a feature that literally lets you G Gundam
>>117807551 He couldn't even beat the modeling club President when he was using the Dom. That's how big a difference it is when he's using his techniques without Build Burning the level 100 gunpla when the Nationals probably only has a cap of 81 just like Pokemon.
>>117807615 >How. Too much time wasted hyping up irrelevant jobbers like the swimming dudes, the "we control the battle field" dudes" or even the stupid "we are piloting a giant dragon" dudes.
>Again, how. See above; also all the scenes with the Osaka builder are pointless padding.
>forced drama "YOU ARE NOT WORTHY OF BEING A FIGHTER" trauma, the stupid "MUH LITTLE BROTHER" subplot.
>Still better than the forced romance bullshit of S1 between Reiji and Aila. Every human scene in S2 is embarrassingly bad; it's almost created by "anime plot generator". "Everyone in the class is jealous of lucky MC because he is friends with cute girls and his sister is a model!" "characters cough when other characters mention them in passing" "`pseudo-stalker fangirl that only lives and breathes for MC" "guy falls over girl in compromising position"; it's fucking pathetic even for toy advertisement anime.
>>117807704 Skepai has point shield control general particle control and can make plasky particles solid. He's also an actual martial artist
Reiji has good beam saber control and pretty good melee skills in terms of everything else there's not much he can do. The fact Sekai can create solid base wherever he wants gives him an advantage in melee combat and this is all before mid season,
>>117807795 Are you retarded? Sei's direct particle manipulation was because his Gunpla wasn't as advanced to allow Reiji to control it himself. It was built with the fact that those two are a team to begin with, why would Sei go out of his way to make himself even more worthless when he can share the burden with Reiji?
Do you actually think Reiji wouldn't be able to activate Build Burning in the same way? Who the hell did you think Sei even built the BBG for? Did he visit a fortune teller and found out a karate kid was gonna enroll at his alumnus 7 years from now and if he made him a gunpla custom tailored to martial arts with the flexibility to do even high kicks he would win a big tournament?
>>117807918 >wasting time on irrelvant jobbers there where so many world class fights in S1 we WISH we got to see but most got skipped to only focus on essential character fights, i wanted to see justin fox damn it, he made it to the semi finals and we have no idea who he was, aside from the second round rinato the mejins entire half of the bracket wasnt seen
>>117807918 >See above; also all the scenes with the Osaka builder are pointless padding. What are you talking about? He has influenced Try Fighters the most.
It's good Yuuma has an actual real builder rival, the rivalship between Sei and Mao was a joke because there was barely any interaction between them(hurr muh Misaki-chan) and a huge gap between their skills.
>>117807795 Sekai got trounced by a guy who wasn't even a fighter because he forced his techs on a machine that couldn't move the way he wanted it to (protip:the only machine that could move ho he wants it to is the build burning) and competes because has a machine that makes particle manipulation EZ mode. Except for Mao, all of Reiji's opponents were world-level fighters with mechs just as tricked out as his. >>117807925 You're over stating the power of the defense. Not only does it require Sekai to actually match his opponent's blows, but it also has not demonstrated enough actual defensive power to stop a conventional weapon.
>>117807997 Are they really rivals? At this point Sakai seems much better and it was just Yuuma living up to his words and manning up fucking up Sudou hard. Sudou honestly wasn't all that amazing and the best pilot on G-Masters was obviously Suga by a fair margin he just has a really shitty plane and he happened to fight something he could barely scratch.
The funny thing is I don't even know if BBG would have taken critical damage had all those missiles hit. Shimon alone did more damage to BBG than G-Masters did, though the later managed to run him out of juice instead. BBG literally has more armor durability than it's battery life due to Sekai burning his tank hard with his plavsky fueled attacks.
>>117807852 It wasn't a close fight you tard were you even paying attention? Why do you think they cut away and showed he lost? It's because they didn't want to show the ass kicking they heavily implied happened.
Also and again the point was Sekai's techniques were highly specialised which he made work in all conditions.
Also Reiji didn't get bailed because his opponents were all shit. That was the point. It's why the final of the regional tournament was so easy. Yuuki was the only competant fighter there.
Sekai has a high spec Gundam WITH NO VERSATILITY AT ALL. The only reaspn Sekai got as far as he did because he personally made up for all the gunpla's shortcoming against mid long rand and beam saber Gunpla.
Reiji had the most versatility Gunpla in the entire tournament..
>>117807918 >Too much time wasted hyping up irrelevant jobbers like the swimming dudes, the "we control the battle field" dudes" or even the stupid "we are piloting a giant dragon" dudes.
>too much time >one or two scenes of them winning, usually in the same episode they get wrecked by team Try >too much time
>also all the scenes with the Osaka builder are pointless padding Why is Minato's character pointless?
>it's almost created by "anime plot generator". "characters are high schoolers", "one character is the class rep", "anime MC is too dense to know class rep loves him", "asshole, rude character who nobody calls him out on his bullshit", "chuuni character", "generic kansai-ben character", "MC has an absent father", "rich oujousama with drill hair" So I take it you think S1 was also trash right?
>>117808100 No they weren't you retard he competed in a regional tournament who apart from Yuuki were all crap. Sekai hasn't even reached the nationals yet but has fought against someone that's won in the nationals already..
>>117807918 >Every human scene in S2 is embarrassingly bad; it's almost created by "anime plot generator". Yeah because the ojousama with great fighting spirit is terribly generic compared to the drill hair ojousama with ojousama laugh.
>>117808139 They were both down to their backpacks. Everything else had been destroyed. It was a close fight.
The Build Burning is the most versatile gunpla in either show. It was designed to do the things it does, Sekai's just figuring it out, not making it work.
Reiji's suit didn't match his fighting style. >>117808181 Yes, Sekai does need the Build Burning to do it. He couldn't get the aura around his blows with that SD. >>117808219 Reiji won the World Tournament in an individual sport and Yuuki was the runner up. Sekai is literally playing in the schoolkids division.
>>117808139 >It wasn't a close fight you tard were you even paying attention? Why do you think they cut away and showed he lost? It's because they didn't want to show the ass kicking they heavily implied happened.
Where's your source retard? Where is this indefinite proof instead of simply your headcanon shoving conjecture after conjecture? They cut away when both were neck and neck and both gunpla were fairly damaged, that's more than Sekai can ever claim given he got whooped by Minato and did zero damage to him. Reiji never lost that hard, let alone to a chump studying under Mao senpai.
You have massive issues if you think a gunpla that can literally create a plavsky tornado IN THE MIDDLE OF SPACE and can blow up colonies with a single punch has no range. All he had to do was do the same to Solomon this match and he would have won the match 5 seconds in due to the exploding debris wiping out all other 5 fighters while his gunpla remains barely scratched because Jesus Sei built it. He might bleed a bit more, but it would have been literally 5 seconds into the match and game over.
None of what you said also disproves everyone pointing out Reiji is also an amazing fighter in real life. He's the strongest kid his age by a mile, the fucker can jump over school walls and sleep on construction buildings then take a morning walk on them before teleporting away. He's literally Gary Stu with a faggot attitude.
How can Sekai who's being built up as a nice straight forward dimwit who earns his skills through hard work ever compare? You may as well claim Kai Shiden was better than Char because he was better at using artillery.
>>117808181 You still can't read can you? I said Sei the builder did not design his Build Strike to let Reiji control it because he was still there.
Why do you dodge all my points and simply keep repeating the same shit over and over despite me having addressed them with 50 different lines? Are you shit posting or just butt hurt Reiji NTR'd Aila from you? Does he remind you of that one faggot in high school who made you look like a loser?
>>117808332 No it's not because particle manipulation not unique to it.
And even on the silly supposition it was that's an awful argument being able to swim doesn't make you a world class swimmer., being able to manipulate particles doesn't allow you to create solid platforms out of simultaneous manipulate several focal points and create hurricanes through the manipulation.
Does anyone feel there is anything to take away from how the episode ended with him roughed up and about to pass out. Not sure the direction they are going with this, if it's just showing how exhausting and tough the fight was or something more with the body and machine merging that they mentioned a few times during the episode.
>>117808332 Seriously your argument so so bad. Essentially because we're not even half way through the division and Sekai has fought high level oponents despite doing far more advanced techniques than Reiji ever did that makes him permanently an inferior fighter because that makes sense,
>>117808356 Lol your seriously asking me for a source. How about you watch the damn Show Reiji himself freaking said it wasn't a close fight you retard, he was completely outmatched which was why they faded to black and didn't show the climax.
>>117808581 >the damn Show Reiji himself freaking said it wasn't a close fight you retard
No he didn't, and do you even know how to fucking argue kid? When you make a claim like this you have to provide the proof if I call you out on it. Reiji and Sei just admitted Yuuki was amazing and they lost, they never said they got trashed.
Go to bed faggot, I can tell by how you keep spamming retard after I used it once on you that your limited vocabulary is a reflection of your limited brain cells.
>>117808465 The way each machine handles particles is inherent to that machine. Nils wasn't harping on about the Sengoku's perfection because of his swords, but because he had built the ability to use the Particle Fu Jin into his machine. All of Sekai's abilities are due to the abilities of the machine. Pay attention to what Yuuki said, it wasn't a comment on Sekai's skills, but a comment on him using the Build Burning's inherent abilities. >>117808541 High level for schoolkids, yes.
>>117808679 No their not you retard. Sengoku used the machine to particles to enhance a technique, That's specially inherent to the machine. Platforms, shield manipulation and fucking hurricanes are not.
Seriously what on Earth would possess you to believe that. it's not a logical jump in conclusion AT ALL. At most you can argue it proves general particle manipulation and that's at most and even then that on it's own isn't very much without the skill to use it.
I haaaaaate Reiji, but I gotta admit, he's more well rounded than Sekai and picked things up much faster.
Reiji took out an entire group of probably average battlers with a Ball. Sekai took a few episodes before figuring things out that space is not the same as earth.
Sekai's also got the luxury of using a Gunpla that was built by a Sei who's had years of world championship experience, while Reiji mostly piloted (experimental/revolutionary) Gunpla from the very start of Sei's career.
Basically, Reiji's a bigger Marty Stu than Sekai. Sekai's just kinda annoying with his constant Leeroy Jenkins act. Reiji's shown more raw talent, but who knows, Sekai might have greater potential.
So, question, do Gunpla actually improve technologically or is it a case of more features being introduced, thereby changing the meta? It seems like the early years was more about pilot skills and how well made your Gunpla was, but in the Sei/Reiji era, it became about Plavsky Particle Manipulation.
Are we in the "Age of Gattai" meta? Build Burning's got Plavsky Particles Manipulation capabilities, but what's changing the game right now seems to be Gattai.
>>117808781 >>117808797 >>117808803 >Invalidating what took place during the fight by twisting the meaning of one sentence. Holy shit, how could you believe that wasn't a close battle? Watch the fight again.
>>117808681 >>117808781 It wasn't a comment on the state of the battle, because they were both down to their backpacks, but on the completion of the battle, referencing his earlier frustrations with Yuuki beating him but not finishing him earlier. >>117808751 The technique was inherent in the machine. Minato recognized BB because of the techniques that Sekai used, specifically the space jump.
>>117808875 Invalidating the fact The you didn't even see the most important part of the fight and yet somehow claim it was close.
Seriously your being retarded stop. The show made it abundantly clear. Do you know why because Reiji is the stronger fighter in the show. That's why they made the difference between the clear and chose not to show the most important of that fight.
Do you even know what the context of that means? It was a clear victory which was obvious. Nowhere did I say they tied or the result was contested. Are you saying then that Yuuki just let his Zaku get crippled and battered for fun then? Or that it's no problem and he has a Build Burning hiding underneath it?
Where does it say they got shit stomped? Oh wait, that's not it. Where did they say Yuuki was on another level from them? Come on, where is it?
By your logic the Renato brothers also got raped by Yuuki despite putting Kampfer out of commission and it wasn't a close fight at all.
Your autism and nit picking is hilarious and completely relies on over exaggerating lines taking it out of context. I even provided the context multiple times. Sekai couldn't even touch Sakai, how is it comparable to Reiji and Sei who at least put considerable damage on the Zaku Amazing?
The best part is you are completely ignoring how Reiji is saying it. He's being overly humble because he lost fair and square in a rematch, but his tone obviously implies he's happy with the fight he gave. This is Reiji the fucking sore loser of sore losers, if he got raped he would not take it like that.
>>117809085 >Do you really think those techniques are exclusive to him? Do you think no one else can use it if they used the Build Burning? The specific tech are exclusive to Sekai, it's just that BB allow the technique to actually, you know, materialize properly.
>>117808966 Except that it is the better explanation based on context clues, which are important in a translated medium. Yuuki's main body was wrecked and he only had his backpack left. That cannot be refuted. >>117808965 >>117809007 >>117809051 The machine is the one manipulating the particles. Not Sekai. Only the BB can use those moves like that.
>>117809007 Are you retarded? You think Sekai could have used the Star Build Strike with RG system then to do something similar? Of course not.
Are you saying the BBG's elbow and knee shields are a result of training and not the fact that these features were INHERENTLY already implemented in the damn suit and the kid just never found out about it?
You're acting like Sekai made the BBG evolve. All he did was figure out how the damn thing works some more. This is no different than the Overskill in Log Horizon. Anyone can do it.
It's embarrassing how you act like Sekai has Natsu's plot armor when we've already seen fighting spirit by Ral cause explosions across the horizon with a simple swipe of his finger cannons, something everyone else that was fighting the fodder at the time couldn't do even with their signature big attacks like Mao's new gunpla.
>>117809138 So? Are you saying Reiji can't create his own moves equivalent in effectiveness to Sekai? Are you implying Sei made a fucking gunpla for some random kid with special snowflake abilities that even his gary stu special snowflake bff couldn't pull off?
Stop dodging the point faggot. BBG was originally made in image of Reiji to begin with. It's fucking RED. None of Sei's suits were primarily red before. Are you really this dense or are you one of those people who thought Sakura would win the Naruto bowl?
>>117809215 And did he build the build burning? No he didn't. He just happened across it. How is that any different than Reiji smashing everyone with Build Knuckles? Oh right, the model itself with BBG being way more hax than SBSG.
All you're doing at this point is reinforcing the point that Sei is carrying Sekai.
>>117809218 BB has no inherent abilities, It has large partciel output and at most increased particle control (if you can call it that). That using of the techniques are Sekai's, none of them are automated..
The Shows pounds this down your throat again and again. Sekai was forces his techniques through the gunplay. Forcing not activating. He later modifyied them but they're still his techniques. That's why he's always using moves from his martial artists school.
That's why at the very start it said he could call to the wind. The point is he had natural proficiency at particle control that was the whole point.
>>117809363 No shit faggot, yet that ISN'T the point we were talking about. You just went off on a tangent because this was the only thing you could keep rambling about when the entire discussion was Reiji vs Sekai as fighters to begin with despite the BBG clearly was made for Reiji himself.
It's like you can't even figure out how a red haired kid who likes to fight is suppose to be the spiritual successor of the former red haired kid who likes to fight, and happens to find the Gundam Sei made for him but had to stash away because Reiji never came back.
Do you get it yet? Sekai is the kid that as a character we want to succeed and favor over Reiji, but as far as power levels go there's absolutely zero indication anything Sekai can do Reiji can't do better if given a short period of time. The fucker was near Jesus Yamato level why would you even try to argue this when Sekai had to learn how to feint from a boxer?
Rather than Sekai vs Reiji, shouldn't it be Shimon vs Reiji? Shimon's a more well rounded Battler who is strongest in melee. He only barely lost to Sekai while using a straight assembly Gunpla built by a little kid who has Anime Sickness/Cancer, while Sekai was using a world class level Gunpla (albeit one that's 7 years old).
>>117809425 The pilot has no actual ability to manipulate particles. Only the machine does. Sekai's techniques only work because the Burning can manipulate the particles that way. >>117809485 The actual fight leads one to believe that, since the fight was undeniably close, because they had both exhausted everything they had, any explanation that includes that would be by default better than one that does not.
>>117809425 Yeah dude, the Build BURNING Gundam is not inherently suppose to BURN like the God Gundam. That's what you just said.
You also basically claimed Sekai learned how to manipulate platforms with particles and it was never an intended design within the gunpla, which is absolutely pure conjecture and doesn't even have a fucking basis. There is nothing Sekai can do to 'train' to come up with a possibility that never existed before. However time and time again we've been force fed Sei's genius from range of builder techniques to depth of his designs. Which do you think is more likely?
I'm not saying his fucking Shippu-Zeki or whatever bullshit martial art attacks aren't his. Those are his. But he's not manually controlling those particles he just has to feel them due to how the system is. That's why he could hear the BBG's roar to begin with. Do you not remember the end of S1 and everyone went Newtype and communicated with each other? Why would the BBG having a psychoframe base for it's particles manipulator be so surprising considering it's Jesus Sei? Why would he build something only Domon's pupil can pull off when he never met the kid?
So after watching the episode, I can't help but think that maybe those glowy blue parts on BBG are actually Arista, since they went from blue to yellowish red , and when BBG got hurt so did Sekai when it happened. Arista have been known to connect one person to the other, maybe this time its the gunpla to the fighter.
>>117809500 Shimon has higher potential as a melee fighter than Reiji. He wrecked the shit out of Sekai despite the handicaps.
To even further the point of Sekai sucking dick, imagine Shimon being the MC instead and picking up Build Burning. We wouldn't get long ass boring karate attacks, but we would get Ippo 5.0 and at that point I'm not even sure Yuuki could do anything about it without a massive upgrade in gunpla.
And this time, 'Ippo' would have LOTS OF FUCKING OXY-err I mean PLAVSKY PARTICLES.
>>117809671 >BB has no inherent abilities >It has large partciel output and at most increased particle control (if you can call it that). >That using of the techniques are Sekai's, none of them are automated.. >The Shows pounds this down your throat again and again. Sekai was forces his techniques through the gunplay. Forcing not activating. He later modifyied them but they're still his techniques. That's why he's always using moves from his martial artists school.
Where did you say the platforms were done by the Gundam again? Come on out with it. You clearly said BBG only has big plavsky output and control. Where does it say you can turn particles into SOLID MATTER? Under particle control? Then that's a tech isn't it? Which would render your statement that all techniques are Sekai's wrong.
Stop being a hypocrite and learn to read your own shitty posts.
If you mean that Shimon is better that Sekai in melee I agree. But Sekai would be better for BBG because he uses his lower body for more than evasion. I mean look, why the upper body of BBG was battered in their fight, the lower half was fine. remember that it's because of Sekai utilizing BBG's legs that he won that match.
Shimon needs to learn how to use foot techniques besides, because he got wrecked by someone who uses leg techniques.(Armbar, kick to the knee, knee to the head)
>>117808139 >It wasn't a close fight you tard were you even paying attention? Why do you think they cut away and showed he lost? It's because they didn't want to show the ass kicking they heavily implied happened. They were both down to their fucking backpacks If that isn't a close fight then i don't know what it is
>>117809911 Sekai is more well rounded for the BBG is undeniable, but at the current moment Shimon as a fighter dwarfs Sekai so hard it wouldn't matter if they fought on even footing because while Sekai would be say a 80 with his arm strikes and leg strikes and grappling, Shimon is literally over 160 in arm strikes alone. His punch in snapfag destiny almost rivaled Sekai's long windup ultimate punch with BBG. If Shimon used the BBG all he would have to do is throw a haymaker and a colony disappears OPM style.
Well, that's if they keep the power levels consistent. And they obviously won't. The MC being weaker than someone for the rest of the series in a Gundam show? You kidding me? That's never gonna happen.
>>117810067 >Obviously he thinks a close fight is if both Gunpla broke down and the little action figure inside climbed out and started shooting each other with pistols then fencing ala Char vs Amuro. Honestly that would be pretty cool to see
>>117810100 Of course it would, it's Plavsky Prince vs A-Meijin. They can do anything and do it damn well.
Now imagine if Sekai had to control a little guy with a pistol. He'd miss every shot, but then block all the bullets with Jigen Haoh Ryu and then use up the tiny bit of particles stuck inside their action figures to do a final punch and smash Alan's nephew into Axis and pushing it out of orbit.
>>117809911 This is an interesting point. Sekai's basically an MMA guy, whereas Shimon's a pure boxer, but it still ended up as a close match in melee, despite Shimon's low performance Gunpla.
Meanwhile, Sleggar in ep 9 just shuts down Sekai in a pure martial arts match up (ie no Gattai or Plavsky haxx0ring). Although, Sekai broke out of the hold with a backheadbutt.
Perhaps Sekai's not as great a martial artist as is implied? We don't really know Sleggar's background, but we know Shimon competed in amateur competition. Whereas Sekai was out training with his master. Perhaps the difference is that Shimon and possibly Sleggar, actually competed in MA tourneys rather than merely trained? Just some conjectures. I know Sekai's supposed to be some uberduber martial artist. But it'd be nice if he wasn't a complete Marty Stu.
>>117810032 Again, the whole thing with Shimon being better than Sekai is undeniable, but remember that Shimon is a National boxing champion for his age group. He's literally way ahead of Sekai and he's more experienced. I agree that Sekai losing to him if they were on even footing is a higher probability. The odds would be against sekai then and there.
>>117810189 Again, Sekai is young, it's never been really that implied that he's a top tier martial artist just yet, only that he's trained in martial arts. Also, Sleggar is a national tournament champion for Gunpla battle. Sekai has been consistently going against national level players skillwise and he's only just beginning to get better.
>>117810189 >Perhaps Sekai's not as great a martial artist as is implied?
I don't get how people think it's implied. It never was. Here's the facts so far.
>Guy beats up a bunch of kids his age, 3 of them >He proceeds to make use of a new Gundam no one knows about using his martial arts >At no point is it implied only HIS martial arts and techniques could make the Gundam pull crazy shit, we are just never given the opportunity to let someone else use it >He is short, small, and a twig compared to Shimon who's at least otter mode. >At no point do we see any amazing feats by Sekai in real life like when Reiji fucking plays Tarzan showing off extraordinary balance and nimbleness >We know Shimon had to teach Reiji how to feint, which means he never had to learn it or use it to ingrain it in his body
I just don't see it. I see a typical underdog who's only advantage is he trained under the last boss before he was corrupted by Plavsky Embody 2.0 or some shit and is the opposite of Reiji; not talented, HARD WORKING, dedicated in mind, body, and spirit to Gunpla, takes criticism well, never gets broody, and is always training.
He's literally NOT Reiji. Right down to the very fact that Reiji sucked DICK at building Gunpla despite being taught by Sei's dad while Sekai made an SD perfectly fine with minimal instructions from the guy who used to sell bread.
It just doesn't make sense to me. How can anyone interpret it any other way? Sekai is the kid we WANT to see win, because he earns it instead of HAHA LOOK AT ME IM SO GOOD.
Well, problem is how shit his moments in the fights are usually whenever his Fairy Tail attack moves are involved but other than that he's great.
>>117810645 You guy kept repeating national level without putting school-aged and misrepresented what the meaning was. These kids aren't actually national level, because to be national-level, you have to compete against the nation, all of it.
>>117810733 >There's no merit to being better if you are better >>117810756 The way you word it misrepresents things. The winning little league team is national level at their division, not national in general. It has been worded several times in this thread as in general. >>117810830 I objected to the "Sekai has been consistently going against national level players skillwise and he's only just beginning to get better." Because no specification was made here.
>>117810854 The only real problem with the series is whenever Sekai opens his mouth in battle because you know 9/10 times it's gonna be him shouting out an attack and people are gonna take it like a turn-based rpg unless they are Minato who called him out on his bullshit from day 1 they met.
This episode was the best one by far if you ignore that aspect.
>>117810934 Its true, technically it was very good. but the invincible shonen main character thing makes me groan really badly. just look at the pinpoint barrier in this episode: he pulled that off in an afternoon randomly training.
>>117810067 >implying that's a close fight It's not a close fight until both their little action figures are down to their right hand and they do 3 matches of rock-paper-scissors to decide the winner. Then you can say it was a close fight.
>>117811268 Because he's a spoiled little shit that forces his views and wants on everyone most of the time and wastes his talent? Being born better is only deserving of merit if you actually make use of it. Reiji pretty much only worked hard for maybe 5 minutes with Ral's buddies and Fellini and coasted on his talent + Sei's gunpla.
He's an underachiever, which suits him just fine since he didn't care too much about Gundam in comparison to just wanting to battle it out with Yuuki and help Sei man up but that doesn't change the fact that he didn't work even 1/10th as hard as everyone else did in their life.
>>117811366 The pinpoint barrier actually made sense from a design perspective of the BBG and Sekai's own fighting style. It was just poorly foreshadowed for most viewers because they can't understand that Shimon's reflexes + Shield Fatty = pinpoint barrier. It was a logical follow up if you gave it some thought but it wasn't ham fisted and obvious like Winning Gundam.
This episode was pretty cool overall but there are a few points that bother me.
>Your Jigen Haoh bullshit won't work on me. >takes an named attack to the dome and gets beaten by a regular punch
>Gyanko despite getting rekt doesn't brood over her loss and is even helping Sekai train in a day or two. Maybe women wont be useless in this gundam series >Fumina, the main female mc, literally becomes a meatshield and gets fisted twice for the win, otherwise doesn't do jack shit in the battle.
>at least 2 machines took critical damage to or near the cockpit but were not downed at all.
>>117815386 I would like to see an actual team win, superior tactics or maybe Yuuma/Fumina carrying the team to victory legitimately.
>>117815418 I forgot about the support units but I was pissed to see Mega shiki still moving around after getti beam sabered through the chest area and supposedly having it's vernier destroyed, only to be dragging it's ass across the colony's surface.
I'm enjoying the series but there was so much bullshit this particular episode that nagged at me.
At least it was bullshit on both sides of the battle.
$5 says that Sekai's master wouldn't even appear in the show proper and he/she will only be mentioned by Sekai when it is convenient as a plot by Sunrise to troll us just like the Kampfer Amazing VS Star Build Strike in the Volcano field in the second OP of GBF
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