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I like Nadeko. Do you?

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I like Nadeko. Do you?
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>>117709070
I spoiled myself on Nadeko Medusa
Couldn't watch Monogatari anymore because Nadeko had to go down such a sad road.
Wanted nothing more but to embrace her and love her forever.
If I ever took a waifu, it'd probably be Snake.
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>>117709070
Just dump snake images already, before monkeyfags shit up the thread. My folder needs them.
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>>117709070
nadeok a shit
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>>117709070

snake a shit
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>>117709894
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I want snake to step on me~
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>>117709070
I wouldn't go as far as saying I like her, but I find her breakdown to be a rather interesting take on the whole shallow public facade bit.

I might have ending up liking her if they had shown her better traits as long as her negative ones. Unfortunately, they did not.
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>>117709894
Did someone say Monkey?
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>>117709070
Which form of Nadeko do you like?
Plain or Medusa?
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>>117709894
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>>117709894
You poor bastard. If you didn't mention Monkey then you probably would have given the thread a longer lifespan of just Nadeko pictures.
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>>117709894
>>117710121
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>>117709070
>I like Nadeko. Do you?
yes, I think she's great
http://pastebin.com/51JtgiBy
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>>117710076
Plain
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>Do you?
you bet
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>>117710160
where can i hear this?
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>>117709070
My dick likes her quite a bit.
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>>117710149
I'm a Kanbarufag, please don't heavily imply my comment was anything but an observation of what that particular anon did wrong.
As much as I'm all for shitposting Snake threads, and I am since Snakefags are shit-house. The Oshinobro from the earlier thread had a point.

Basketball outfit Kanbaru, still best Kanbaru
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Last of 40 guys to fuck her greasy cum pussy, etc.
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>>117710076

>not angry Nedeko as an option

i am dissapoint
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Worst girl
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She's the best girl. Thinking about her makes me dick hard. I want to fap now. Fuck you op.
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>>117710440
>40 guys
I recall it's a hundred.
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Medusa Nadeko is best Nadeko
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Is it now popular to like Nadeko instead of hating her?
Won't stop me from posting Monkey anyway.
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Reminder that snake is shit and if anyone likes her then it falls under one of three categories:
-They care about nothing more than fapping to her.
-They are the same sort of horrible person as snake and thus empathise with her.
-They still don't understand nadeko medusa and have replaced it in their minds with some fanfic.
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>>117709070
Yes.
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friendly remainder:

NADEKO DID NOTHING WRONG!
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>>117711544
She did nothing right either.
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>>117709070
I do
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I like Nadeko a lot, her and Kanbaru are my favorites. But I haven't seen SS yet and I guess she has some major stuff going on in that show.
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>>117710943
My boy.

Angry Nadeko a best.
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>>117711347
>-They are the same sort of horrible person as snake and thus empathise with her.
I think we've pretty well established by this point that monkeyfags and batfags are the most spiteful and arrogant bastards
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>>117711171
t-this number is beautiful
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I like Tsukihi best

there I said it, fine me if you want to
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>>117709070
snake is best taste

Dont let any of these neko faggots fool you.
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Nadeko is love. Nadeko is life.

old bat hag and fake sister are bullies
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Nadeko is one of my favorite sluts. Fucking Shinobu cockblocked Araragi who was going to fuck Nadeko, and Nadeko was totally going to go through with it as well. In fact, she was hoping for it.
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>>117709070
I started to like her when I read Otori.
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>>117711347
Second category masterrace.
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Are we posting monkey?
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>>117711347
At least the first one isn't that bad.
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>>117711347
>mfw people use images I made to shit on my favorite characters
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>>117711347
Why is she so bad in particular? Aren't they all a different flavour of crazy? Except Meme
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>>117715876
Snake just reminds people of themselves.
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>>117715876
The others are somewhat stable though. Snake went unstable and so she went from crazy to insane.
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>>117715731
/a/ is a wonderful place isnt it.
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I love snake threads.
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>>117716040
>Cat
>Bat
>stable
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I'm a snail guy myself.
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>>117715876
They all eventually
a) Realize their problems
b) Reach out or accept help
c) Solve their problem and move on

Except snake.
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Ok, call me dumb for missing something obvious but why didn't Snake simply use her god powers to recover her hidden manga?
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>>117716169
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>>117716188
Of course.
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>>117716134
Stop making it hard for me to hate you.
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>>117716169
Because she hadn't thought about it?
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This is the monkey thread right?
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>>117716290
No, sorry this is a Crab thread.
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>/a/'s favorite girl is the one who got cuckold by a hipster punching bag who actually only gets turned on my his sisters.

pathetic.
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I'm so glad all you guys are bumping Nadeko's thread, despite your favorite girl being someone else! Thank you so much, I really appreciate!
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>>117716428
/a/ - cuck&ntr
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>>117716359
It can be both.
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>>117716440
No no no, you see what you did, was make this thread, knowing that it would become a Crab/Monkey thread later on.

Surely no one actually thinks that snake is the best.
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>>117716440
What do you mean, this is a monkey thread.
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>>117716471
You and I can get along.
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>>117716440


You know, if monkey girl was really popular then monkeyfags wouldn't have the need to shit up other better girl's threads
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how do i choose between monkey and snail? i just can't do it /a/
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>>117716483
But... I didn't make this thread. I just post in this thread because I love Nadeko like everyone else here.

>>117716522
It's alright though, sharing is caring.
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>>117716522
>shit up

We let you have a snake thread the other day, do you remember what happened to it?
https://archive.moe/a/thread/117608589

Face it, there is no such thing as a good snake thread.

We're just preemptively saving the thread.
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>>117716594
This started as a Snake thread to draw them out so they could be ridiculed later on when better girls were being posted.
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Why isn't Koyomi in the Nadeko manga?
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>>117716660
>implying he's not the love interest

She's just too insecure to actually draw him.
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>>117716652
Why is that a gif?
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>>117716725
For reasons you are unable to comprehend mortal.
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>>117716636
Inviting not only discussion of only her series, but the social consequences of it! That's Nadeko for you, you wouldn't get this with any other girl!

>>117716652
That's all fine and dandy, but better girls will never be posted, because Snake is the best.

>>117716660
Why would he be?
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DAILY REMINDER THAT NADEKO IS THE BEST MONOGATARI AND SHE DID NOTHING WRONG
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>>117716875
>>117716897
Nadeko a shit
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I want to have a 1 week long fuck marathon with her making sure I impregnanted her.
Then dissapear forever.
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>>117716636
Monkeyfags can't handle it when their girl gets flak so they never make threads. Luckily Nadeko is kind enough to carry your pitiful asses.
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>>117716875
>3DPG pedo and loli wars

Please, no more riveting discussion like that ever again.
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>>117716924
Anon, saying other girls are bad is one thing, but saying this best girl of ours is shit, when yours is under her, what are you thinking?

>>117716979
Well, it's alright if you can't handle any discussion.
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>>117716961
>implying

You just can't handle the truth that monkeyfags are doing a public service by hijacking snake threads before they turn to shit.
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Even Shinobu said she is sex incarnated.
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>>117717021
>Snake
>Above anything
o i am laffin
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>>117717021
Nobody can be under snake. Snake defaults to the bottom every time.
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eww waifu wars
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>>117717048
Worst girl and a slut to boot.

Truly pleb taste.
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>>117717038
Monkeyfags want to preserve their image and end up never having the spine to make threads of their own, can confirm this. They have to use roundabout methods of putting everyone else down, just like their girl.
>K-kanbaru totally isn't a petty, jealous dyke! That's the monkey paw controlling her!
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Anyone have a gif or webm where Nadeko eats that cherry or strawberry?
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>>117717049
>>117717067
Huh? I'm sure you agree Nadeko is the best, otherwise you wouldn't be posting in her thread. If you didn't, you would just make your own threads.
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>>117717067
If there is nothing else, we can at least take comfort in the fact that they are not worst girl.
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>>117709070
i just want to tell her that her drawing are shit and then rip them up.
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>>117717185
You don't have to pretend to like snake anymore. The jokes over.
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>>117717123
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>>117717111
>jealous

She's actually envious. The show makes it quite clear that the oddities are only ever working for the humans, not controlling them.

Kanbaru got over her inability to be with Hitagi like she wanted and is now best bros with Araragi.

What's Nadeko's excuse?
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Reminder that immortal babystealing firebird is best girl.
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>>117717350
Why do crabfags feel the need to be such bitches?
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>>117717426
I don't agree with you, but I respect your choice.
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>>117717443
>this kills the crab
gee
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>>117717426
Why is Phoenix always best, whenever a phoenix shows up?
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>>117717111
>monkeyfags never make threads

Is this what snakefags actually believe?
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>>117717443
Like Spartans following Ares and Atheneans following Athena, every -fag follows the ways of their goddess
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>>117717320
Ah, but you see, to stop that from happening is exactly why Nadeko hides her dream. So if you dislike her for being a meek and evasive person, then you just proved her right!

>>117717350
You're right, there's no need for lies like that, I don't like Nadeko... I adore her.
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>>117717443
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>>117709070
She has a couple of nice hentai pics but ultimately she is nothing special.

Hair is nice, her best part.
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>>117717530
So you're saying snake fags are shit?
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i like them all and i dont want the series to ever end.
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>>117717492
The phoenix isn't the King of Birds for nothing.
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>>117717619
I'm saying you're being a bitch and snakefags are being bullied and then hated if they try to get back,
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Post more snakes
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>>117717619
I'm pretty sure we all already knew that
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>>117717394
>she's actually envious
Ever heard of a synonym m8?
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>>117717662
okay
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>>117717608
Thats all she is about.
She is incredibly cute but shallow.

She will have an easy life because there are going to be fresh juicy big cocks wherever she goes.
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>>117717651
Snakefag pls

It's perfectly fine to have shit taste, as long as you acknowledge it.
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>>117717707
>doesn't know the difference between envy and jealousy

Sasuga snakefag.
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>>117709070

Yes.
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>>117717725
I laughed.
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>>117717707
Kanbarufags aren't much brighter than Kanbaru.
>>117717530 was right
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>>117717651
Don't be like that Anon, being like this is not the Crabfriends' fault, they just can't help being insecure. I'm sure behind their cold exterior is a soft and defenseless soul that is screaming for help. Have some patience with them.
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>>117717787
>doesn't understand the words he uses
>calls other people stupid.
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It should be a crime to look this good.
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>>117709070
I said that before and say it again. She is the shittiest girl along with madoka.
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>>117717852
Don't worry anon, bracelet, bracelet
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I want to cum inside on her dangerous day
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as much as I like monkey I wish people didnt post the same shit every time
there is like 5 monogatari threads a week on /a/ and the same pictures of kanbaru in every thread
just let other girls be posted once in a while
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>>117717889
This guy gets it.
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>>117717971
>posting monkey somehow stops you posting other girls

How anon?
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>>117717971
Snail is second best girl
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>>117717827
...


Seriously though, Nadeko a shit
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>>117718136
Hitagi is top tier.
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>>117718252
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>>117718136
And yet you still fap to her.
Don't kid yourself anon, you want her.
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>>117709070
I enjoy fapping to her tight little butt and budding chest.
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>>117718247
Are you trying to butter me up so I'll admit that I like Nadeko?

Not gonna happen
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>>117718136
>Using ellipsis like a Gaiafag
Crabfags live up to their zodiac name. Cancer.
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>Not wanting to fuck snake goddess
There is a limit to being a faggot.
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>>117718572
>Using Ellipsis in one of it's intended formats is being a gaiafag

Also

>Using low resolution images.

It's like you don't love your waifu at all.
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>>117718252

dat nadeshiko
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>>117718523
No, not at all, of course not. Why would you think that? I'm simply saying I like miss Crab, and nothing more.
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>you will never impregnate a 14 y/o snake goddess
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>>117718602
I can think she is worst girl and hatefuck her brains out at the same time.
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>>117716359
>>117716403
>>117716430
>>117716483
>>117716555
>>117716652
>>117716924
>>117717049
>>117717103
>>117717742
>>117718136
I like you the most, anon. Such a good taste you have there. Best girl with best VA
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>>117711347
>so what
>so what
>so what
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I used to be a crabfag but after angry-Nadeko there was no going back.
Nadeko is the goddess /a/ deserves
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>>117718818
Nadeko shill pls go.

Don't act like you ever loved best girl.
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>>117718777
So shit taste trips anon.
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>>117718818
>liking Snake because of Medusa
That's not how it works, anon
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>>117718818
So we'll hate her. Because she can take it.
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>>117718933
Can she though?

Cause last time she went nuts and decided to go live as a hermit in a shrine and get drunk every day.
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>>117718763
You and I are two of one soul anon.
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>>117719007
>implying that's not living the dream
>implying we can't all relate to a lazy child who just wants to drink all day and draw manga
>implying that people who hate snake aren't just projecting their own self-loathing
>>
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>>117718763
This one's for you, crabfriend.
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>>117719225
What about the multiple homicides she had planned?
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>>117719225
>Snakefags think everyone is a smelly neet like themselves.

How pitiful.
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>>117719306
How did she steal his underwear without taking off his pants fully first?
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>>117719304
She's talking both to Nadeko and herself though. To use this solely as an instrument to fuel your 'best girl' wars is just sad. It's a shame that most fans are too shallow-minded to actually appreciate the anime they're obsessed with.
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>>117719451
She has a pile of sharp objects up her skirt. How do you think she did it?
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>>117719007
She's a big girl.
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>>117719399
>implying that Nadeko is able to follow through with anything until Kaiki shows up to make her a productive member of society
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>>117719497

Tell me about Snake why does she wear the bracelet
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>>117719521
Nobody cared who she was until she ate the talisman.
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>>117719500
That doesn't make her any less of a shit.
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Nadeko's the cutest of all and I'd gladly fuck her brains out. Still she's a shit character.
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>>117719567
Was becoming best girl part of her plan?
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>>117719651
That's not Crab-sama.
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>>117719304
>>117719304

bat is a fucking bullying hag, fuck her and fuck all the fucking batfags
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>>117717630
Seriously, though.
Tsukihi is best girl
Houou is best Maniwani
Ho-Oh is best Legendary pokemon
I could keep going, but you get the idea.
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>>117719419
Says the autist who replies to every post in this thread with his avatarfagging bullshit.
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>>117717759
>thinking there is a difference between envy and jealousy in informal language
sasuga monkeybrain.
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>>117720038
Snakefag detected.
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Which Airøspace album is best and why is it Cat?
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>>117719731
Perhaps she's wondering why an old man would spend time and money on her before lying to her
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>>117720099
I'll just smokescreen by trying to make the topic about the girls. No one will notice my shitposts.
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>>117720157
Bootyblasted Snakefag confirmed
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>>117720066
>not using envy when it's way more applicable

for what purpose?
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>>117720312
Saying that envy and jealously are not synonymous in this context is plain wrong, that's all I'm saying.
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>>117720157
>I'll just smokescreen by trying to make the topic about the girls.

As apposed to?
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>>117709070
I came here to say yes.
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>>117719008
>>117719306
Thanks. Let me return the favor.
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I came here to post best girl.
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>>117720339
They are only synonyms if you're too lazy to use their actual meanings. There is clearly a difference between the two and using them interchangeably is only done by people who don't know better.
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>>117720470
>They are only synonyms if you're too lazy to use their actual meanings
As I said, perfectly acceptable in this context.
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>>117720136
I had not heard of this before now.

Thanks anon. I'm listening to the discography right now. I like what i'm hearing.
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>>117720495
>I'm too stupid/lazy to use words properly but that's okay because I also have no standards

okay
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>>117720703

now this. this is a shitpost.
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>>117720703
I agree.
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>>117718708
I will admit, Snake has the best theme.
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>>117709070
maybe
of course not
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Alright, I'm a Snailfag, but I'm curious about why people like Snake. What about her makes you like her anons?
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Why does she have fries for hair?
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>>117721201
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>>117721201
>Snake
>not Crow
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>>117721327

she's very cute but also has a touch of lewd
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Nadeko was at her cutest/sexiest as a snake goddess. Why did she have to go back to being a boring human?
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>>117721536
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>>117721327
She's a cheeky cunt
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>>117721605
Fucktoy isn't best girl anon.
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>>117721871

whatever you say pal
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>>117717078
Are you afraid of the XX chromosome pair?
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Personally I think Snake is the hottest of the girls followed by Crab and then Bee. But the best girl title would have to go to Snail.

Sorry
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>>117722307
I am afraid of the XXX chromoson triple
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>>117722350
>crab
>hot

How?
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>>117720006
>>117719304

>>117719455
This

Have you guys read Utsukushihime?
It really put that whole Bat vs Snake thing into perspective.
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>>117722570
You're entitled to an opinion even if it's wrong.
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>>117722570
I'm a little masochistic, so if Crab were to go femdom on me, I'd lose my shit.
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>>117718014

Keep posting vectors Anon, i like them
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Hello Kitty loli collab
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>>117722671
I thought we were talking bodies here. I mean crab isn't bad but compared to some others she's lacking in certain departments.
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>>117722775
Doll is the only one who looks like she belongs in that dress.
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>>117722679
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>>117709070
Nadeko is lust.
Nadeko is sex.
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>>117722790
There are more to girls than their bodies anon, personality is a must. Which is why I will always dislike big-titted bimbos from every series ever.
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>>117722811
That's because her hands don't show.
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>>117722775
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>>117722877
But the list specifically said hottest and had bee, who's an idiot, and snake, who's a crazy idiot, on it.
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>>117709070
No, your 2nd OP sucked.
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>>117722946
Therefore, Crab is hottest amirite?
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hahahhaahhahahahahahha
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>>117722946
Are you fucking with me? I'm not just talking about personalities either. What the fuck anon
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>>117722790
Your brain is lacking in certain departments.
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>>117718763
Crab a best
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Post more crab
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>>117711347
>-They are the same sort of horrible person as snake and thus empathise with her.
>tfw
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>>117723305
Gladly.
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>>117723059
I'm confused about your tastes.
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Vampire>Snail>Cat>Bee>Phoenix>Monkey>Crab>Snake

Based on nothing but personal feelings. Just the main girls. Others get in where they fit in. Your mileage may vary.
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Sure snake is alright, and so is monkey.

But crab was the cover and inspiration for two surprisingly good alt rap mixtapes. Pic related is the cover to Vol II.
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>>117723477
You put cat about 3 places to the left of where she should be.
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>>117723476
Let me spell it out for you then

Snake because she makes my dick wet with her obvious teasing

Crab because she is really good at being a sadist

And Bee because /fit/ is kind of hot and she has this innocent vibe about her that makes me want to show her how be lewd
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Last one I got, vector-kun.
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>>117723477
>Cat
> >Crab
> >Phoenix

>Cat
> >
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lack of best girl in this thread...
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crabfags, why do you like crab?
I personally find her fucking annoying, but I want to know what's the appeal.
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>>117723735
They like being dommed like little sissy faggots.
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>>117713655
Thats why i like her
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>>117723521
I wonder if moe will ever be mainstream.
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>>117723723
Please anon, I've posted plenty of Crab already. How much more could you want?
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>>117723521
shit almost forgot my link

http://airospace.bandcamp.com/album/vol-ii
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>>117723723
monkeyfags have been absent from this thread for a while

I'm pretty sure that's against the law or something.
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>>117723630

Thanks anon, best girl gonna be my wallpaper for awhile
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>>117723735
I love everything about her anon.
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>>117723806
I'm currently on the fourth theme of vol i. I dunno, I feel it's kinda missing something, but that's maybe just my taste.
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>>117723662
>>117723535
I can't help that you niggas don't see the beauty and wonder of cat.
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>>117723735
Not a crabfriend, but I would like to give Gahara a hug and tell her it's all going to be alright.
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>>117724025
She should stop being so fat
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>>117724044
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>>117723735
She's consistently sadistic and teasing even during her "dere" moments. It's a character trait that's not very common.

I also absolutely adore her relationship with Araragi, it's so perfectly imperfect,
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>>117723735
Crab is the ideal woman, anon.
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How do I into this series? I don't understand what order I am supposed to watch things in
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>>117724002
just wait until vol ii, it's more cohesive and the beats are better.
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>>117709070
Something about that image makes me wanna choke her.
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>>117724025
If by "beauty" and "wonder" you mean her big pair then yeah, they're pretty good. Otherwise she's unbearable both as a character and person.

>>117724120
Release order (Bake>Nise>Neko>Second Season>Hana).

>>117724133
Will do, I was in need of something to listen to while reading Medaka Box anyways.
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>>117724120
Start with Kizu
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>>117723790
Thank you for posting all that stuff...
>>117723854
You also can have some
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>>117724239
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>>117724133
>it's more cohesive and the beats are better
He's much better lyrically on vol. 1
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>>117723735
I think the most attractive thing about her, to me at least, is that I would never get bored of having her around or get tired of her.

I want someone I can compete with.
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>>117724211
>she's unbearable both as a character and person.
She's helpful, understanding, behaves positively, is pleasant to talk to and knows everything. Why would that be unbearable?
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>>117724246
Anything for a fellow crab lover.
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>>117724434
>helpful, understanding, behaves positively, is pleasant to talk to and knows everything.
That's exactly why.
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>watching Bake Ep1

What the fuck am I watching
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>>117724607
Greatest anime of all time.
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>>117724578
She'd be a great friend.
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>>117724607
Something beautiful.
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>>117724607
The Ulysses of anime.

>>117724667
Eh, maybe.
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As much as I love Crab as a character, I would absolutely not date her.
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>>117709070
>>117709070
I love her too but she doesn't have enough hormones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GsLotyVcP0
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>>117723854
>>117724493
I love the spite she would give me.
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>>117724322
Yeah but it's not like a large drop off. He still has his moments, like some of the rhymes on Earl Sweatshirt.
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>>117724808
What am I watching?
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>>117724981
Nadeko on roids or Otacon's wetdream
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>>117724808
Is this real?
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>>117724808
I'm not even surprised anymore.
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All gataris are best girls

but bee is the bestest
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>>117725106
No, it's just a delusion brought on by stress.
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>>117709070

White snake best snake.
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>>117725217
Got any more of that best girl?
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>>117724808
>Kojima prefers Nadeko
It is a good day to be a snakefag
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>>117724808
I can't believe he does this shit.
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Oh my god, it's an actual Nadeko thread that didn't devolve into arguments about pedophilia. Thank god.

Don't mind me though, just posting best girl butt.
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>>117725155
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>>117725271
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>>117725271
>named after a metal band
>sung by solid snake
>loli

Holy shit! It's glorious! This must be what they call LOVE!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOJk0HW_hJw
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>>117725403
Gee I wonder why that happened.
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>>117725308
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>>117724211
>Cat
>unbearable

Please. Cat is at least the second or third most helpful girl in the series. Generally the voice of reason, and Ararararagi's personal 411.

I like titty monsters as well as any other type. So that's okay. She get's multiple hairstyles. Her loli form practically broke Araragi. Her cat form was the same. She is the prime example of lust for the series.

Can you imagine a imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie?

Well can you?

Also, she brings Araragi and Shinobu closer together. She's okay being the mistress, or second place. Respects Hitagi, but trolls her regularly.

Niggas actually think cat is crap because she has problems, in a show about girls with fucking problems. Why so biased against Cat?
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>>117710076
Both
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>>117723806
I'd like to note that I completely disregarded this when it was posted, but I went back to listen out of sheer curiosity.

Damn. This is a really good album.
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I don't dislike her but shes my least favorite character on the show. I liked her a lot more during and after Medusa but she still kind of annoys me.
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>>117725800
I'm convinced that some people dislike Cat because when her arc aired in SS, it was her third fucking arc when no other character even had two.
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>>117725884
She'll be the opposite of Nadeko
Shit in the beginning, and redeemed at the end.
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>>117725944
You mean she is.

Tsubasa Tiger is one the best arcs in the series.
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>>117726011
In retrospect, I'd have to agree.
I really liked how Araragi came out of nowhere just to break her heart.
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>>117726058
I actually think he fixed her heart. She needed that more than anything, to fix her life.
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>>117725944
How was she shit in the beginning? In Kizu she was very helpful, she went out of her way in into lethal danger to help Araragi. In Neko white she had her problem as every other girl did and Araragi dealt with it poorly. In Bake he still dealt with it poorly. Shinobu had to bail his ass twice because he'd rather die than solve a problem.
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>>117725800
>the second or third most helpful girl
...and?

All you're talking about is superficial. Her personality is usually as dull as a plank, you can't even enjoy her banter because it usually comes off as underhanded, it's not like with Crab, Bat or Snail where they're being playful, she just comes out as a bullying bitch (the breast touching ticket comes to mind). And despite how amazing she is, she's a helpless idiot; they constantly say she's really amazing and all, but in spite of her amazingness she only causes problems. So what if she likes Araragi or has family problems? She never does anything about it nor reaches out to someone else. If she knows everything why doesn't she just get a clue?
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>>117726200
I meant beginning in release-by-anime
She wasn't very likeable. Even in Kizu, I kind of felt like she was being really selfish, though understandably.

>>117726195
Yeah, you're right.
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>>117726200
It's not that he dealt with it poorly, it's that she dealt with it poorly and he was okay with letting her because he felt he owed her.
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Anyone looking forward to Tsuki?
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>>117726361
Me

The only reason I come to /a/ is to see if someone mentions it.
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Just finished episode 2. This is actually kind of interesting.
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>>117726403
Next arc will reveal your powerlevel.

I didn't really get into it until after snail arc. I sat through crab because I had intentions of watching it all from the get go.

Casual friend of mine couldn't make it past crab. I'm sure as hell he wouldn't have stayed for snail.
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>>117726403
It hasn't even begun.
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>>117726460
Snail separates the boys form the people who can't sit around watching talking heads for 20 minutes.
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>>117726460
>couldn't make it past crab
But it's only two episodes...?

>>117726523
>this opening
Dear Gandhi what have I gotten myself into
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>>117726507
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>>117726523
Dialogue in this anime was superb.

Though I can't moon, the (translated) writing style is superb in the LN.
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>>117726403
Try not to get too carried away with the flickering colors, text and rapid scene transitions/cuts. You'll go insane.
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>>117726361
I'm waiting for more monkey.

She's going to be in it right? The arc is about Koyomi paying Gaen back for her help in Shinobu time right?
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>>117726602
He's the kind of guy who watches anime half-assedly on his phone. I haven't bothered recommending anything to him ever again.

Snail's OP was pretty great.

Though I'm not a huge fan of Snake, her two openings were fantastic.
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>>117726507
>>117726620
Someone make a gif that rapidly flickers between 2 of these frames.
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>>117726403
Remember to pause at every text flash. You don't want to miss out on plot critical stuff
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>>117726602
>this opening

I believe it's what they call juxtaposition.
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>>117726460
I agree with this Snail aarc will either kill your enthusiasm for the series or make you fall in love with it.
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>>117726698
Don't listen to that anon, I wouldn't even bother reading the text that goes by too fast on your first watchthrough.
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>>117726460
>>117726403
>people didn't thoroughly enjoy the first episode enough to finish the series
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>>117726620
>not reversing the eyes as well
Platinum bad form

>>117726698
Top bat
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>>117726403
anon listen to me, stop watching right now and just forget about this series.
not because its bad but because its so good that once your finished your heart will never be able to recover.
plz anon you must listen, save your self from the suffering this show creates.
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>>117726678
>Though I'm not a huge fan of Snake, her two openings were fantastic.
If only mogra releases his remix of that song.

See you this FRIDAY/SATURDAY you niggers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7jxoI5Wa44
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>>117726752
I'm not a fan of big breasted sluts.

>>117726854
I'd almost be tempted to agree, but this is one of those where the heartache is worth it. Besides, there's still a huge portion left to be animated.
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I had to watch this on commie simply because I hate how horrible subs does their type setting. Anyone else feel the same?
inb4 >commie
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>>117724808

I has no sides
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>>117726207
She's the example of: "Out of everyone, you know yourself the least."

After being shot down, she starts to fix her life. The ticket thing was a little cringetastic, but she generally likes to help him. And gets nothing of value in return. And her base personality is good enough to have all the other girls look at her favorably.

>she's a helpless idiot

That's literally why she has the split personality. She isn't helpless, she pushed her desires into the other personality. How can you possible ignore her whole fucking character development when she's had so much?

It's like you just don't want to like Cat more than you actually want to like other girls. Too much Cat for you? Maybe. She has a lot of screen time. She's a good girl for the series. Great in a lot of ways, not so good in others. But don't dismiss her because you think she got too much time, or she's not "best girl".

A Cat is fine too.
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>>117724404
It seemed out of character for her to start crying over Hanekawa just sleeping the school but doesn't bat an eye at Arararargi nearly dying multiple times.
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>>117726679
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Tell me about Shinobu, why does she wear the band-aid?!
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This is like Seinfeld all over again
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>>117727520
It's hot as fuck

>geekyard
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>>117727344
>flipping the nostrils

for what reason.
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>>117726938
>I'm not a fan of big breasted sluts.
Senjougahara has modest breasts
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>>117727631
Anything bigger than A is big breasted slut material.
Anything bigger than B is disgusting cow tits
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>>117727120
>And gets nothing of value in return. And her base personality is good enough to have all the other girls look at her favorably.
That's not going to make me like her. I'd rather her do get something in return. I'd rather her be disliked or be in conflict with the other girls. It's like her life is a constant cold war.

>She isn't helpless, she pushed her desires into the other personality.
That's the same goddamn thing as not doing anything about it! Even Snake is better, at least she deludes herself about it because she's a coward, rather than not do anything and being shown as super amazing.

>It's like you just don't want to like Cat more than you actually want to like other girls.
What I like and don't isn't something I can manipulate, you know? Or what, do you think I like her the less just because? I just like everyone else more.

>But don't dismiss her because you think she got too much time, or she's not "best girl".
Assumptions much? It's not like I didn't give her a chance. Although you're right in a way, because there are at least three other girls that don't have half her screen time and are a world more fun to watch. But with Hanekawa is like you don't go anywhere at any time.
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>>117727587
If I pull that off will she die?
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>>117727695
>That's the same goddamn thing as not doing anything about it! Even Snake is better, at least she deludes herself about it because she's a coward, rather than not do anything and being shown as super amazing.

That's not worse that snake, that's the same as all the girls.
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>>117727629
I just took it from the 2 frames earlier
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What did Kanbaru mean by saying this? It went completely over my head.
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>>117728111
they both like araragi
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>>117727919
Yeah, you're right. Everyone just bottles shit up. But only Hanekawa does it by having a hyper capable façade. Hitagi is a bitch, Nadeko is a wimp, Kanbaru is a pervert. Like I said, I'd rather her be a cunt about it than not.
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>>117728212
>snail is dead
>shinobu is a cute
>Kaiki is a best
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>>117723761
>>117723735

>>117723932
>>117724083
>>117724404
>>117724096
Pretty much this
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>>117728247
Kaiki strives to be a caricature and he's wonderful for it.
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>>117728187
How does that figure in the context of the conversation?
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was crab a virgin before she met arargari?
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>>117728279
Shit I fucked up that post
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>>117723477
kaiki is base grill.
>useless faggot MC who henpecked by crab and S&M with shinobu for life.

>>117716145
that's why corpse and snail are 2nd base grill.they're already dead but got over it. and they pretty much have no personality flaws except loving that fag MC
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>gf will never be as hot as Crab
Might as well dump her
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>>117728325
What do you think?
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>>117728247
muh nigger! hi-5, yo!
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>>117728420
my heart says pure but my brain says mega slut.
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>>117728381
Tsukihi falls into that category as well.
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>>117709898
Nadeko a cute. <3
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>>117728320
you dont think there would be some sort of tension or uneasiness between them?
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>>117710160
Tsukihi was fantastic in that.
>Tsukihi: Well come on, put yourself in my shoes, Nadeko-chan. To do a commentary with someone as popular as Nadeko-chan is enough to put someone under a lot of pressure, you know? All I have to do is make one slip of the tongue and, “whoa, she’s horrible to Nadeko-chan” and “I feel so sorry for Nadeko-chan” and “She’s bullying Nadeko-chan!” I’m certain to become a target for that kind of criticism.
Nadeko: Didn’t all of that actually occur in only a mere 4 minutes…?
Tsukihi: So you see, I found a clear solution: stop caring. In fact, I decided to be proactive and go on the attack against you, Nadeko-chan.
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>>117728494
>dying birdee
bird: attempted murder every morning and everytime when she's jelly. worst grill after snake.

and she regens and rebirths, so she really never dies, while koyo vamp and shinobu are more like undead or half-dead.
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>>117726747
My first watchthrough I marathoned bake and I read every text flash.
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>>117728325
No. Kaiki fuck her.
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>>117727695
I'm not trying to make you like her. Just think you aren't seeing the character as a whole. She clearly has development. Even if it is slow.

I don't understand how you don't like her though. She's attractive, helpful, and both serious and fun. And looking back on it, she makes every girl she interacts with better in one way or another.

>Crab
Other than Araragi, gets her best dialog with Cat. Cat helps fix her shitty personality by being the other woman. No one like a bitch with a superiority complex.

>Snail
Boops her on the head, and makes her cuter than necessary.

>Sisters
Makes them see their brother as a better person. Gives them a standard of civility.

>Shinobu
Makes her realize that he needs her. Cat is smart. Vampire is wise. Vampire beats Cat.

I've given a multitude of reasons why Cat isn't bad. There's also a lot of porn of Cat. Which is okay too.

Come to the dark side. Where every girl is good, and Cat deserves to be high in the rankings.
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>>117728646
1st: Watch without pausing
2nd: Pause all the text flashes
3rd: Watch with Commentary
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>>117728494
Tsuhiki is a walking personality flaw.
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>>117728541
Yes, but Kanbaru says Koyomi doesn't have to worry about their relationship. If there was just tension I don't think she would say that. There is some kind of understanding.
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>>117727921
Imaginie putting 2 people holding their hand out to the end of her mouth and it'll resemble a skipping rope.
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>>117728325
99% chance she was a virgin.

There's a very slight chance she fucked Kaiki because both of them are so vague and roundabout in their recollection of their past relationship (and everything else they say really) but it's pretty safe to assume she never did the nasty with him. Or rather, I couldn't see Kaiki sleeping with a middle school girl.
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>>117728676
Finally an anon speaking sense
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>>117728676
>attractive
Depends on taste. She does nothing for me.

>helpful
Which is part of the "omg, Hanekawa is so wonderful and perfect" shtick which annoys the everloving shit out of me.

>fun
I don't find her fun. She bores me.

>she makes every girl she interacts with better in one way or another
Indeed she does: by being SO dull and uninteresting, she even makes Bird look like she has a a personality. All girls look better when contrasted with a worthless piece of shit like Cat.
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>>117728667
>implications
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvIEztK_gwQ

they probably fugged. also base OP. therefore kaiki always the base
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>>117728325
raped as a child and probably tricked into riding some dead tree dong if you know what im saying.
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>>117728676
Why does she always wear matching black lace underwear?
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>>117728743
Crab and Cat both want Araragi
Crab feels threatened by Cat because everyone in the show knows they would be better together
Kanbaru doesnt like the situation because its not really normal to keep friends that like you around when you are dating someone else
Monkey knows Araragi is an idiot and would probably do something stupid to try and fix everything
Monkey is really thinking about Crab in this scene
its an interesting scene and im sure i've missed a lot of stuff about their relationships this is just what ive taken from it
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>>117729106
Well you never really see Kanbaru and Hanekawa interact outside of that one scene in Tsubasa tiger.

I wonder what the line "their own little world" was specifically referring to.
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>>117728676
You say you don't understand why I don't like her, and all you do is keep telling me how she is good. Talking about just how she is great will never convince anyone; if you're gonna say anything, point out her flaws, discuss her dynamics with other characters, talk about her role in the story.

Like I said, she's not endearing to me because it's like she's not there. I'd rather her be a bitch, a wimp, or a pervert than the all capable senpai.

>Crab
>Other than Araragi, gets her best dialog with Cat.
Who is Kaiki?
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>>117728111
They've both had to deal with family issues and went about it in a similar manner, though Hitagi's perfect girl facade only lasted until the end of middle school when she met the crab.

They both admire the other in a way, Hitagi admires Hanekawa's capabilities and knowledge where as Hanekawa admires how assertive and seemingly invincible Hitagi is. At the same time they can both see the others weaknesses, Hanekawa understands how emotionally fragile Hitagi is underneath and Hitagi understands how much pressure Hanekawa is under and that there's much more beneath her exterior facade. Hanekawa was even helping Hitagi with whole turning over a new leaf thing that she was doing in Nise (Araragi mentions it at the end of the Nise LN), it's the actual reason why Hitagi apologized after the phone call during the chair bondage scene in episode 3 because Hanekawa was scolding her for doing something so crazy.

In the commentaries it comes out even more because they get along so well together. They both know exactly how to irritate the other and end up getting sidetracked a lot just discussing things between each other. There's a clear difference compared to the way she talks with Kanbaru where all they do is joke around and never really discuss anything serious. It's exactly like Kanbaru says, they've got their own little world between the two of them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psoCkXzBtlo
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>>117729412
i like this one more than futuristic lover
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>>117728992
>she even makes Bird look like she has a a personality
I don't know who you are. But I will find you, and I will disco you.
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>>117729263
>>117728992
Do you honestly believe she's perfect? >>117728676 has already explained her dynamics and part of her role in the story. She is a wimp and helpless in her own way, unless you missed it in Cat, Family and Tiger.
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>>117729436
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBRA7kWingA
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>>117728481
Only with Araragi
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>>117729580
>explained her dynamics and part of her role in the story.
>She's attractive, helpful, and both serious and fun. And looking back on it, she makes every girl she interacts with better in one way or another.
Hanekawa-sama is so great!

>She is a wimp and helpless in her own way
Do I really have to go over this again?
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>>117729436
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psoCkXzBtlo
Fuck man, episode 12 was so good. I also forgot how fantastic the commentary was.

>We'll never get more audio commentaries
True suffering
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>>117722570
>crab
>not hot

And he revealed his taste was the shittest.
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>>117724667
Yeah, if she was the kind of friend you only ever talked to when you needed something from her. She's to be used and then ignored.
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>>117730065
I'm an ass guy and there isn't much to work with.
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>>117730331
I think you're confusing the terms "ass guy" and "nigger".
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>>117730607
Just because your waifu doesn't have an ass doesn't mean you should get all confrontational.

You need to accept it and move on.
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>>117729809
kaiki dato, best datos

>Hitagi needs help with the crab and all, really desperate
>Pays professional for help
>Savior figure
>Professional decides to let the crab be because it's the best for Hitagi
>Leaves town but destroys the cult because they're scum and are the only problem he thinks he should solve
>Mother joins even worse cult
>Hitagi is mad a disappointed, thinks she got betrayed
>Kaiki realizes he messed up and made it worse (with the mother)
>Kinda feels bad about it but eh, got money and that's life
>Hitagi really mad and doesn't want peoples help
>Hitagi threatens everyone who tries to help
>Koyomi helps anyway
>Success
>Much love for white knight
>Kaiki appears again
>Don't let BF meet with Kaiki because Kaiki is an asshole and there were awkward feelings for him
>They meet anyway but BF "defeats" Kaiki and they hate each other, big success
>Brat turns into a snake and wants to kill Hitagi and BF
>Only person in reach who can help is Kaiki
>Begs Kaiki for help but can't really pay for the job
>He helps anyway, not so a bad guy after all
>Kaiki thinks he can get some profit/favors (Kanbaru would be pleased) and maybe repay his debt for messing up in the past
>Helping people with these kinds of problems is his part time job anyway and Hitagi is an alright brat
>Success
>Well done Kaiki.
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>>117730875
Why are you explaining the obvious?
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>not one but two tomboys
>both distinctly different
>both absolutely wonderful
Is Monogatari the ultimate tomboy anime?
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>>117730875
also pic related
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>>117731170
only if the tomboys hook up
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>>117730992
because faggets dont understand that kaiki is best grill. and best dude. and "saved" shit-crab more than devil-fag ever did
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>>117728325
Ask Kaiky.
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How many girls has Shuraragi canon slept with?
Just Crab, yeah?
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>>117721684
because fujoshit and //a/ ambitions
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>>117731257
Not outside the realm of possibility.

Also we get to see Kanbaru and Karen hang out in Tsuki I think.
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>>117731446
Let us pray to the gods.
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>>117731323
exchange blood and fluids: heartshot/shinobu/demon

sex: crab

blowjob: monkey

kiss: ermmmm everyone except kaiki?

molest: again everyone except kaiki.

brush teeth: karen

koyo is AIDs
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>>117731563
When did monkey blow him?
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>>117731446
>Tomboy yuri
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>>117726195

Let's be perfectly candid here, that was purely cathartic, she ended up with nothing but self-satisfaction, and it was swept under the rug how she never gets a loving family and wanders the world in reflection as opposed to well...pretty much every other girl in the series. And still had the grace to admit to liking the girl who has the guy she likes. She was always good.

Hitagi has her loving dad AND Araragi
Nadeko has a goal and will get Tsukihi as a partner
Kanbaru has loving grandparents
Mayoi will become a God and still be around
The Fiyah Sisters dealt with their issues and have become closer family with their brother
Shinobu has full support from Araragi no matter what

Compared to all those, Tsubasa has next to nothing to show for all those years she suffered.

Meh, at least Araragi cried when she left at the airport. At least she got that.
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>>117731323
Crab and Bee.
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>>117731764
it was self-censored for lewdz in nise episode 2 i think

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAGH3DeQZrg
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>>117730302
She isn't often home. You can find her in the library, bookstore, benches and parks. You can ask her how her day was and take long walks with her. You can chat about anything and everything with her, and at the end of each topic tell her that she knows everything only to get her to smile and say that she only knows what she knows. You can start trouble and cause problems to have her help you out of the mess you dug yourself into, thank her afterwards and tell her you owe her one, only to have her say that you don't need to thank her. You can give her the affection and attention she needs and help her away from her family problems.
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>>117731318
ugh in the context of this thread that makes my stomach churn, but in the show she meant it as the first person she liked, right?
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>>117723735
For me as I've said earlier, she is very interesting to be with. Talking to her is not bad at all and she actually enjoys company. She just doesn't show it easily.

Also, best voice and best character package. Can't ask for more
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>>117731825
How is Mayoi all that much better than her?
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>>117726299

>he didn't deal with it poorly

Dude, he agreed with retarded Oshino that she was the only one that caused problems and that parents who wanted to dump a 1st grader in an orphanage who lost her mother to suicide were in the right.

Then he went on to say that it wasn't right for her to he herself and that keeping the mask forever and suffering was the right thing to do in Neko Black.

He was a complete dumbass. Simply saying "We'll be friends no matter what you really are" fixed everything.
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>>117732075
bullshit. how could anyone not fuck kaiki?? even monkey couldn't hardly resist when he fed her his manly meat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFFeYLmEARw
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>>117731825
>Kanbaru has loving grandparents

Kanbaru has dead parents, her grandparents are uncomfortable with her, her childhood friend committed suicide and her highschool love brushed her aside.

She's still genki though because she chooses to be.
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>>117732280
I wish I could hug her
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>>117732075
Yes, her first crush.

I mean it's said right there in the screencap.

Do you really think Kaiki would fool around with a middle school girl? It's weird enough she had a crush on a creepy late 30s/early 40s guy while in middle school. That's why Ararargi reacted that way.
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>>117732279
Did that goat die?
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>>117732252
imagine all the fun you can do with all those snakes, anon!
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>>117732252

True, I got too passionate there. Although being guardian of the shrine as a god and being able to shoot the shit with your also immortal friend forever seems like living the dream.
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>>117732276
The point is he wasn't supposed to deal with it. She was. He shouldn't have accepted how she dealt with it but did anyways because of the aforementioned debt he felt he had.
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>>117732399
Yeah, she reminded him of his ex-lover. So it's very possible.
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>>117732276
>parents who wanted to dump a 1st grader in an orphanage who lost her mother to suicide were in the right.
Wouldn't it be for the better though? I mean, the way she was raised by them is what fucked her up. Sure, it's not the nice or even the right thing to do, but wouldn't she have ended up better that way?

>>117732451
We don't know for sure if Araragi is immortal do we? And she's pretty much alone, isn't she? At least Hanekawa can make new relationships. Mayoi has been almost completely alone for 10+ years and her not dying makes Shinobu kill the world. Did she at least get to meet her parents again or something?

>>117732533
By ex-lover, do you mean Gaen? Because that could have some implications for Kanbaru if Senjougahara is like her mother.
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>>117732644
ahahah
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>>117732644
Can Shiki kill kaiis?
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>>117709070

I neither like nor dislike Snake.
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>>117732644
>mfw
shaft fags would fwap to that
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>>117732710
Possibly? I just remember something along those lines in (I think) Hitagi End.
Though It's been a while.
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>>117732806
>not having an opinion
How do you participate in shitposting then?
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>>117732390
That's the thing I love about Kanbaru, she has all the reason in the world to be unhappy and mope around but she chooses not to. While Nadeko and pre tiger Hanekawa put up a facade to mask what they feel inside Kanbaru chooses to be genki.

Of course I still want to give her a hug, who wouldn't?
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>>117732280

Her parents try not to let what went on with her parents come between them and love Suruga accordingly, and Hitagi spoils her a lot if you read the commentaries. It'd almost be healthier if she was actually brushed aside.

I'll give you the friend and the parents, even if Tsubasa's circumstances were much worse what with being orphaned twice over.
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>>117733429
They try not to but she can still feel it.
Her life has not been a walk in the park. She's more of a side character so I don't know if you expected her not to "gain" anything but I don't see Hanekawa's position worse off.
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>>117733382
She almost killed Araragi out of pettiness and jealousy. She only stopped because Senjougahara appeared and rejected her. She put up her own facade about giving up on Senjougahara if it was though the arm, even Oshino calls her out on her bullshit.
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>>117710326
You're damn right I did.

Good thing this thread seems to have reached some sort of stability by now, at least. They typically don't unfuck themselves.
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>>117733716
>tfwnogf.jpg
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>>117732280
Her grandparents are fine with her and she wasn't friends with Numachi, just basketball rivals in different middle schools
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>>117733714
>pettiness

I feel like your throwing out that word for no reason.

She never had a facade. She was aware of why the rainy devil did what it did and did not hide anything from Araragi. She didn't realize that it was only fulfilling the destructive side of her desires.
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>>117733861
Then what was up with the OP?

I don't think Kanbaru's narration was entirely honest during most of Hana.
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>>117733716
Man, that's good timing. I just woke up so that comment was well-timed.

Though yeah, you do have a point Oshino-bro and it is one I can respect. While my very soul screams to shit-post Snake threads and Snakefags aren't ever going to have a good opinion of Monkeyfags. We can still have some class and avoid going out of our way to shit-post up the Nadeko threads.
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>>117734055
I mean the ED
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>>117734055
The OP is just an OP. It's not stuff that happened.
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>>117732710

They never should have married then. They also hated each other and just wanted an easy way out. The irony is the Golden Week incident saved their marriage, which you find out in Tiger, but they end up happily married while staying the same with Tsubasa. It's pretty sickening.

Araragi plans to stay contracted to Shinobu and reestablishes their bond when it's severed later so I assume he'll live pretty much forever.

>>117732489

The big thing about Tsubasa's story was that there was no other way to deal with it than to move on and accept a lifetime of regret and a lost childhood. It's a massive bitter pill with no real good part about it on the horizon. Plus, and we never see that in the anime, was that she at least tried to deal with it in Tsubasa Song and in the interim of Nise.

You don't expect things to turn out pretty for victims of this much abuse/neglect without therapy or counseling and it's about standard fare for them to adopt a mask. That she did what she did in Tsubasa Tiger shows strength on her part, rather than weakness.
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>>117734107
i think the ED was just fun a non canon thing
they kiss in the ED and it implys they were close friends
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>>117734086
I think threads thrive on conflict. If it's not going to be best girl wars the void will be filled by true shitposting like what happened last thread.

Posting monkey in snake threads until a better source of conflict comes along is essential for a thread's quality and survival.
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>>117734266
We probably just need to wait until New Years for posed look and then we won't be so bored.
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>>117734175
>fun a non canon thing

Why do you say that? It obviously meant something.
Why would Kanbaru care so much about a girl if they hardly knew each other? Also Numachi was very familiar with Kanbaru which made her uncomfortable. Through that and the monologue you could tell Kanbaru was trying to distance herself from Numachi because the past was painful.
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>>117734266
See, I have to hold two points simultaneously.

I agree there has to be waifu wars to avoid the true shit-posting. Hell, waifu wars in a series full of best girls is as natural as the Darkness correcting oddities. It's not something you can fight.

However, Monkeyfags being so actively anti-snake doesn't need to be the case. If Monkey stops being posted in response to Snake then another group will pick up the slack as if it was instinct. The fact Crab and Cat barely get shit-talked anymore except by Snakefags shows that the dynamics have changed.
Liking Cat used to be prime shit-talking material but now it's just a non-issue for most people
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>>117731898
nice head canon, faggot
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This girl is cute
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>>117734370
didnt she say they met on the court
they also didnt go to the same school
she also didnt know numachi was a lesbian
i wish it was canon
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>>117734459
Are you sure? I can't tell.
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>>117734567
I'm quite sure
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>>117734370
Numachi was like a mirror to Kanbaru, resembling her and reflecting some of her fears about herself.

But Kanbaru would have cared anyway even if it were a complete stranger who had been doing what Numachi had been doing.
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>>117734266
>Posting monkey in snake threads until a better source of conflict comes along is essential for a thread's quality and survival.
heh

>>117734445
That's just the way things are Anon. I'm sure people will stop group hating on Snake like they do today eventually.
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>>117734459

I want to get funky with monkey.
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>>117734472
She said that but she might be an unreliable narrator at this point. I mean all of them have been in monogatari. That could be her trying to distance herself from the past and pretend there was nothing there.
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>>117734608
Might have to post more pick just in case.

To test.
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>>117732276
Araragi never agreed with Oshino about it, he even said that if Oshino didn't shut the fuck up he was gonna kill him.

and while araragi did want her to stay as the mask, he absolutely did not think it was the right thing to do. At the end of the confrontation Hanekawa says that there's no way the situation is alright and Araragi agrees with her.
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>>117734667
As do I
She would be fun to get funky with

>>117734735
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>>117716506
I lost my shit for the remainder of the scene
the whole premise of Kaiki spilling spaghetti all over nippon just to save face was glorious in itself
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has bat and crab met/talked after bake?
does crab even know bat is living in araragis shadow?
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>>117734664
I disagree just fundamentally because I disliked Snake long before I was on this website and my opinion of her hasn't changed in 5 years so I don't think it ever will
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>>117734871
They've never been shown to talk, but they certainly know about each other.
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>>117734925
how do you know for sure?
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>>117734820
Yep, it checks out.
Monkey a cute.
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>>117733970
>I feel like your throwing out that word for no reason.
Smallness and narrow mindedness are connected with jealousy. But that's not the point and not worth arguing over.

>did not hide anything from Araragi

Really? I'm just paraphrasing here
>It was the Monkey's Paw which perverts your wishes and screws you and everyone over
Then Oshino says
>Yeah, but it's not the Monkey's Paw, it's the Rainy Devil, she wanted her classmates hurt, she wants Ararargi dead. The Monkey's paw doesn't graft itself onto a host. The Monkey's Paw is a convenient excuse.
Even then during the fight, all pretense of having to overcome the Devil alone disappeared. Because the Devil was fulfilling her wishes.
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>>117734874
That's not what I mean. Even if people dislike something or someone, it doesn't mean they will express it in a given context; they need to be incited to. And as the series gets more novels adapted, Nadeko's importance, which is only really relevant to the second season, will become smaller and smaller.
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>>117734977
Senjougahara asks for Kaiki to rescue Herself, Araragi and a loli-slave. Kaiki says he could rescue 5 loli-slaves without a problem
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>>117735077
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>>117734664
The hate only comes when people try to put snake up as great. If you enjoy her in her own flawed way that's fine. But people keep raising shit opinions on why she's the best.
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>>117734925
Bat obviously knows about Crab. Araragi specifically doesn't tell Crab about Bat and the events of Kizu.
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>>117735110
Oh I getcha. That makes sense. I don't know of her relevance in the future books but the way Koimono ended, it doesn't look good for her
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>>117735136
That happens with all girls.
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You know you're winning at life when Best Girl Kaiki looks at you and is all "damn right I am gonna protect that smile free of charge"
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>>117735100
>it's not the Monkey's Paw, it's the Rainy Devil

As far as I remember she never knew that. Part of her wanted them hurt, but that was not her actual desire. The rainy devil only acts on the destructive desires though.

She never claimed to not want Araragi killed on some level. That's why she took the suggestion to cut of her arm seriously. Ararargi was the one who didn't listen and decided to fight it out.
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>>117709070
I'mma skip 500 posts of arguing to say this:
Snake is a foil for Hanekawa, they both present as unfailingly polite, helpful and softspoken in spite of stressful inner lives and/or home situations and the split between outer and inner lives opens them to possession.
I think the premise is flawed from the get-go because it's not some great moral failing to wish people didn't treat you like shit but that's a separate issue
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>>117735323
She only got that in exchange for her mother's death.
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>>117735141
Senjougahara knows about Shinobu and how much she means to Araragi. In Otori she says there'd be no point sparing Araragi if Shinobu weren't alive too. And Shinobu being in his shadow isn't something he tries to keep secret from people who know about kaii.
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>>117735382
The death probably couldn't have been avoided. It's still free-of-charge and she wouldn't need Kaiki's influence if her mother was still alive and based as fuck
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>>117719007
Living the dream
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>>117735373
Nobody treats Nadeko badly though, at least not in particular. Her parents treat her nicely and have no stressful expectations of her. That's what fucked her up; she never had any responsibility, she was never asked for anything, so she had no chance to grow as a person, so she didn't know how to deal with possible disappointment.
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>>117735373
The story would have it that the solution is to be honest about your feelings and desires, but this too is flawed: they might not end up possessed but are we to assume that Cat's dad would go 'okay, my bad' if she made a sincere plea for love and acknowledgment?
The same goes for Snake's class/teachers--the victims have their failinings but these are not nice people!
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>>117735332
Oshino explains it quite clearly. Classmates bullied her, it wouldn't be strange for her to have hatred and violent urges towards her classmates. She's jealous of an upperclassman who took away her Senjougahara, it wouldn't be strange for her to have homicidal thoughts against him. The Devil fulfills her violent wishes at the cost of her soul. But admitting those wishes is hard, using the Monkey's Paw is a convenient excuse because you could say that the Monkey's Paw perverted her wish instead of her deep down wishing violence on others.

She's lucky Araragi is a white knight because Oshino was fine with her arm being lopped off.
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>>117735803
araragi best bro
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>>117735711
At a minimum her teacher is abdicating his responisbilities--yeah dude I'm sure it's stressful dealing with a whole class; too bad that's your fuckng job, right?
But you're right in that's the tactic Nisio seems to take, they fall because they can't or won't embrace the support system they do have flawed as it is
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>>117735963
I don;t fully agree with his take on the morality things but it's a fair position to stake out
What makes them foils is the way they cope with similar situations
Cat is passive aggressive, it's a conscious decision to hold the moral high ground through inaction instead of trying to address the problem even if that leads to conflict or less than ideal results
Snake is lashing out when playing the role of a nice, helpful class rep fails to result in getting popularity/understanding/Arrrrrraragi's D
You could look it as a result of the difference in age--how much did you understand about human interaction when you were 12?
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>>117716134
Fag.
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>>117736232
>Snake is lashing out when playing the role of a nice, helpful class rep fails to result in getting popularity/understanding/Arrrrrraragi's D

Sorry to interrupt, I hope you don't mind but I need to speak up here.

Nadeko didn't want the role of SCP. It was pushed upon her like everything else. She mentions that on the roof when speaking to Kuchinawa.
She never wanted to be a SCP and she doesn't do any of the required things that the role entails. She ignores the responsibility in the hopes that it will go away.
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>>117735882
All Araragi's are Fire Araragi's but Araragi is the Firest Araragi.
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>>117736232
I don't think it's an age related issue, but a parental issue. Both families had no expectations for their daughters, but in different ways; for Tsubasa it was because she was unwanted, for Nadeko it was because she was doted on too much. So on one side you have a person that needed to be extremely strong, while in the other you have someone who was completely feeble. If a healthy person is liquid, Tsubasa is solid and Nadeko is gas.
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>>117736613
But then who was plasma?
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>>117736671
Tsukihi. Blue flame muddafucka.
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>>117736671
The Fire Sisters obviously
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>>117736613
>solid
>liquid
>gas
All this talk of snakes really gets my metal gear solid.

Hanekawa was something of an iron blooded human. Almost mechanical in her benevolence and buckling under the pressure.
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>>117735963
The teacher dumping his responsibilities on Nadeko is not the problem. The problem is that she can't say no. She can't stand up to anyone and tell them off. She just meekly looks away and accepts everything and waits for them to go away. Then she half asses the responsibilities she has taken on and when people confront her she meekly looks away and accepts everything and waits for them to go away.

See the problem? She gets away with her problem of not being able to stand up to anyone by being all cute and acting the victim. Should the teacher have shoved the responsibilities of the class onto her? No, but she should have bee able to say "it's not my problem." The medusa arc is when her shitty copping mechanism finally breaks down. She hates being all meek and shy, it's the cause of all her problems but she never stops being that because it's also the solution.
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