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Guys what's the secret of the freemasons? Was there any

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Guys what's the secret of the freemasons? Was there any leak or did they really manage to keep it a secret?
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>>19563191
Freemason here.
Read the Bible; all the "secrets" are in there.
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>>19563191
Most Masons don't even know what the original secrets of the degrees were.
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>>19563220
What does the G on your symbol mean?
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>>19563226
Geometry I think
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>>19563191
Freemasons are the real SCP
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>>19563220
Are you the widow's son?
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>>19563226
G = (the lie of) Gravity to perpetuate a false model of reality, one that is devoid of purpose and makes the population easier to enslave. There you go
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>>19563291
Gravity ain't no lie, brother.
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>>19563291
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>>19563191
Pretty sure there is no secret. It was originally a guild for masons (wall-builders).
>>19563226
Gatorade.
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Freemason here.
If you really want to learn about Masonry, look up the Bretton Woods Agreement.
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>>19563191
There's a reason Adam Weishaupt is vehemently defended as not being a Jew even though he quite clearly was.
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>>19563223
This, the fact that there's Funmasons posting /x/ tells you all you need to know
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>>19563301
I'm sure you must've done all the rigorous scientific testing necessary to reach such a conclusion. I salute you sir, for you have proved me wrong.
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This video will tell you all you need to know about Freemasons: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOUgzNg6dcE
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>>19563355
This doesn't answer my question
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>>19563377
I already answered your question. The secret of the freemasons is hidden in plain sight on their very symbol. Gravity.
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>>19563387
Freemason here.
Hidden in plain *sight* is right, but I'm not talking about gravity...
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>>19563387
How is gravity a lie?
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>>19563398
>Freemason here
That is meaningless unless you are a 33rd degree, which you aren't.
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>>19563399
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J18e30zTyE
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>>19563191
They are a Lucefarian organization.
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>>19563412
>That is meaningless unless you are a 33rd degree, which you aren't

What if you are member of a Lodge that does not operate under the Scottish Rite? :thinking:
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>>19563398
so what is it
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>>19563447
I can only show you the door, you have to walk through it...
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>>19563451
If it is in PLAIN sight, no need to go through it
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>>19563191
Free Mason here. The secret is that you learn how to never poop again.
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>>19563220
That's why the swore while putting hand on bible ive heard some mason use it for witchcraft is it true?
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>>19563191
Freemyson from here! I'm going to tell you all the secrets from our organization, NO GIRLS ALLOW ,must be male with no record criminals (no niggers or spics) must obey and swaer on some deity can't tell no more cuz I swore but your welcome to join ask12b1
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>>19563399
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_axethcwKs
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Here's a useful secret about Freemasons: we really like pancakes.
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>>19563191
Every child raping masonnigger shall die. They stole everything from the real masons who shall kill them all. Generativity is not found in a child's sphincter.
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>>19563191
Freemason here, we don't exist. We're just meme made by 4chan to troll normies. Jews don't exist either.
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>>19563617
What is that image?
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>>19563623
Halls of Consciousness. We've killed them before and we'll kill them again.
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>>19563628
Killed who?
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>>19563634
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>>19563637
I don't understand.
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>>19563628
Can you guys hurry it up a little? They've been pissing in the pool water for a long time now and we need some chlorine up in this bitch.
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>Freemasons
>It's 2020 already and people still think it's real
>It's a fucking meme
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Pancakes. Lots of pancakes.
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>>19563191
>Guys what's the secret of the freemasons?
that the bible is a recipe book to make drugs
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>>19563191
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CouYZaBZ8j4
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>>19563191
They were good at carving stone
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>>19563291
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYUhIY8gTho
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>>19563313
>Gatorade.
And that's why we have blue, red, and green lodges. For supporting the different flavours.

>>19563223
Yea, but they're not missing much. Shit like "Matchstick" is pretty odd.
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>>19563191
They know the rearth is flat. Its on nearly all Masonic Regalia
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>>19563226
Meth
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G stands for god, they worship the creator of this matrix, who they want to merge with, this way they can agree with and enjoy anything that he creates mentally

Christ consciousness is their natural enemy as it enables individualism and absolute freedom and a lack of secrets

All people that are into the whole control-matrix and group consciousness are spirits who have had hurt feelings any time someone does anything as these people seek to control others. they seek to control others so they can use them. they seek to use them as they can not create anything themselves, and lastly, the reason for that is because they hate themselves and deep down think of themselves as powerless, they hate/reject their own core essence which is free will/no self denial which is NECESSARY for creation

hope that clears it up
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>>19563220
>trusting you
>ever
Conversly
>trusting your own order before 31st degree
>ever

>>19563191
Masons are a luciferian cult that seek to subvert humanity and subjugate those who are not 'illumned'

Anyone of them under the 31st degree will genuinely believe they are a christian gentlemen's club.

they are, at their core, a cult that worship the sun, under the impression they hold sacred knowledge. They probably do. They are in the highest forms of every organization worth noting.

>>19563341
>pick thing up
>drop thing
>thing accelerates twords the ground at 9.81m/s^2

Wow you can definitely try this one at home kids
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>>19563441
then you are worthless as a mason.
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>>19564177
wow its almost like the ISS isn't that far away
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Freemason here, your invitation is only given when you reach the 33rd *pl
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Freemason here.
There's actually a secret 34th degree in which you learn about the true Luciferian doctrine of Freemasonry.

Source: a 34th degree Mason
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>>19564625
no self respecting mason would rise higher than the degree of god
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>>19563191
>Implying the <Freemasons> aren't just a Catholic arm invented to counter the Rosicrucians
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>>19564776
>Catholic arm
cool story bro
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>>19564789
Freemasonic concepts are just Rosicrucian-Lite bullshit with muh Bible tossed into the cracks or wherever seems most "tasteful".
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Don't bother with the Masons. Involving yourself with them is a waste of time and money. If you'd like to get into the occult, I'd recommend finding someone with a proclaimed interest who seems half-competent at the everyday stuff and who has a good balance between regular life and their practice.

Easier said than done, but at least you won't be *worse* off.
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>>19563226
the balance of masculine and feminine energies
yin/yang
active/passive
square/circle
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>>19563226
Geometry
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>>19564543
>Anyone of them under the 31st degree will genuinely believe they are a christian gentlemen's club.
Ironically, the only appendant body with that many degrees is itself Christian, whilst the Craft degrees are non-sectarian. And yea, appendant means separate.
So what do you think makes the 31st degree special? (and remember, there is no 4th-31st degree in the USA)

>>19564776
>counter
Rosicrucians formed us into what we are, bro.
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>>19565988
>>>19564543
>>Anyone of them under the 31st degree will genuinely believe they are a christian gentlemen's club.
>Ironically, the only appendant body with that many degrees is itself Christian, whilst the Craft degrees are non-sectarian. And yea, appendant means separate.
>So what do you think makes the 31st degree special? (and remember, there is no 4th-31st degree in the USA)
>>>19564776
>>counter
>Rosicrucians formed us into what we are, bro.
There are 31st degrees in the usa called Scottish rite do some research
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>>19564558
33rd degree is a high honor only some ever get the chance to receive
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>>19566033
>There are 31st degrees in the usa called Scottish rite do some research
Yup. Except there is no 31st degree. In the SJ and NMJ, when you join the "Scottish Rite" (which can be two days after joining Freemasonry), you join at the 32nd degree.
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>>19563191
I see a lot of niggers wearing this medallian.
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>>19566041
Reserved only for those who understand the cults true nature
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>>19566045
Depends on the lodge and you have to be a third degree to join Scottish rite
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>>19566059
Classifying the Catholics as a cult I guess masons are cultists
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>>19566059
And those who serve on their Valley performance teams. It's actually quite common. There are many rarer honourifics in the Scottish Rite than 33rd.
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>>19563451
Morpheus.
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>>19563191
To seemingly be a part of everything, without actually doing anything. Amazing, isn't it?
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>>19566077
the Catholic Church is a cult, so are you pancake bros. you both serve the same master.
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>>19563191
Do not believe any "Freemasons" here in this thread
Because those men, who are apart of it and speak of it, don't really know what it is.
It's basically a recruitment organization, recruiting those deemed "receptive and capable" of joining the real elite who try to control all of us.
The ones who are unaware, are either too inept, or too sovereign to be apart of it.
Do not join unless you are a submissive slave, willing to exchange your true self for worldly pleasures.
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>>19563226
Goyim
I'm not memeing.
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>>19566119
>Do not believe any "Freemasons" here in this thread
Or people who post like that.
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>>19566120
This. It's basically taking advantage of well meaning, useful Goyim. I feel sorry for these guys really.
>in b4 "f-fuck you, I'm not being used. they make good men b-better. :'(
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>>19566137
Taking advantage how?
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>>19566141
grass for snakes to hide in
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>>19566172
Expand on your assertion.
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>>19564558
Ah interesting. So basically ALL Freemasons in continental Europe and a big chunk of Masons around the globe are worthless as a mason?

That's a very interesting standpoint.
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>>19563500
ALL THE NUTRIENTS ARE MINE!
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>>19563226
genetics
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>>19566087
All I'm offering is the truth, nothing more.
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>>19563191
The candidate (as the widow's son a.k.a. Hiram Abiff) is guided through a dark room blindfolded. He is approached by three men demanding the Master Mason's secrets and, each time, he rebuts these requests. The last time, he figuratively dies by falling back into a blanket.

That's the first degree.
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>>19566801
I think the third degree involves a coffin, but I don't know much beyond that.
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>>19566680
The third door is real
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>>19566844
Kek
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>>19566848
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>>19566801
That's the third. And he's not blindfolded. The first is introduction to concept, and that's when you're blindfolded for the start.
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>>19563191
It's just a little stern school of thought get attempting to reach enlightenment through the Christian esoteric tradition.

The Freemasons were used by revolutionaries and fascist alike to meet in private with like minded folks. We have the internet now so it's just a boy's club now, essentially.

They aren't pulling the strings with their potlucks and community outreach program, trust me.
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>>19566878
Fucking autocorrect correct.

*It's just a western school of thought attempting to reach enlightenment through the Christian esoteric tradition.
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>>19566876
If he's not blindfolded, then what does falling backwards into a blanket do?
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>>19563306
wow! tools used for measurments are used by scientists!
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>>19566933
Also, Masonry didn't exist in its current form until the early 1700s.
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I don't know why people give you all this crazy shit

the G with the square and compass is to say god is the great architect
thats it
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>>19566930
Symbolises getting killed by a bonk to the noggin. It's only a blanket in cheap places. Ye get a good lodge in Edinburgh, and you actually fall back into a hole symbolising a grave. Just have to be careful if it's been raining recently.
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>>19567066
Oh, I thought it was a trust ritual. As in, you must fall backwards blindfolded and trust that your brothers will catch you.
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>>19564625
>>19564575

Ok so can I join to have fraternity or is anyone below 31 just "fodder"?
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>>19567079
Naw. I mean, that would make sense. But usually it's a gentle lowering, not a fall. Otherwise people could get hurt.

>>19567157
Only according to conspiracy nutbags who don't know how it works. If you want bros, that's fine, but you're probably better off joining a team sport or something.
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>>19566826

Would that be like the Skull and Bones initiation where they put you in a coffin and you have to tell them your darkest secret?
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>>19563191
Everyone knows about the Freemasons and some conspiracies surrounding them. So no, they didn't manage to keep it a secret, because it's nothing more than an old people's club nowadays.
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>>19567172

So then what does one get out of Masonry? Self-improvement? Money? Prestige? Really good chilli recipes?
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>>19567197
Their motto is "Making good men better." So I guess it's all about self-improvement?
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>>19567194

Follow on question: The masonic temple in my city is in the heart of gangster controlled territory would it be correct to assume it's full of said gangsters (they own everything else on that road)
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>>19567197
You get money if you go bankrupt and its a great place for people to create monopolies, while using new initiates to farm membership dues and create a fake religion/moral code so they try to exclude non twisted peopleas much as possible,

basically the boring version of "golf rumours"
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>>19567209
Nope,it's DAS JUDEN!
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>>19563226
Gangsta
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Actually have some experience with these lot:

>own and run a pub a few doors down from a mason lodge in southern england
>they come in for a pint every now and then
>mostly alright bunch of blokes always buy big rounds and keep themselves to themselves
>only odd thing is they always come out of their meetings in these really fancy suits with cummerbands and turned up collars. One of them always carrying a big sort of cast plastic suitcase with them
>people often ask them the standard "so what do you do in that lodge whats in the case" kind of questions.
>one time one of them straight up said "ive got a high powered sniper rifle in this case what are you going to do about it?"
>gets the police called on his arse by concerned barfly
>case literally just had a poker set in it

Tl;dr masons used to come in my pub they'd act all mysterious in reality it was just a fucking boys club.
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>>19563191
The big secret of the masons is that they have no secrets. There are numerous books outlining everything that goes on in their halls.
Conspiritards gonna 'tard though.
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>>19563191
There is no secret, but one who does not study the topics handed out to you will not be able to perform as a true mason.
It's not a secret, it's a skill that you have to learn aka the Craft.
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>>19567938
If there is no secret, then describe the degrees in detail.
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>>19567663
a boy fucking club, you say?
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>>19563191
They know how to make nice pillars


It's about that.
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>>19564505
I'd agree.
The Freemasons believe in using extra means to make their work happen. Rape, pedophilia, whatever large sin they can hysterate is what high ranking members use. They claim there is balance in an act, and although there may be among the group, the individual seal was broken. What they do is of their own. They have no power. They have no way to spit here. They are dead dogs and puppets of a forgotten mouth that will stay forgotten for eternity, even while I personally remove it's influence from all spheres.
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Something about attaining immortality, what they mean by that I don't know.
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>>19568474
How to attain immortality?
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>>19568554
Are you so retarded as to actually want to stay alive in the physical world even though physical reality is in a state of entropy? That would mean you rot without death if you were to possess immortality.
Only children want immortality and they only want that in their dream of love. The reality is death is a welcome you will find is necessary, truthful, and good.
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>>19563355
So im guessing that the full video that includes this excerpt is available yes?
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>>19563306
First of all those are artistic depiction by some painter. Second of all square and compasses are tools for achitects etc.
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>>19563191
There are many secrets in Freemasonry. It's not a secret society. It's a society with secrets.
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>>19563291
Wrong. G means "Grand Architect of the Universe". Meaning, God.
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>>19567197
>Self-improvement?
Yes. But you have to be willing to learn.
>Money?
Not in the least.
>Prestige?
Eh, depends on how broadly you want to catagorise it.
>Really good chilli recipes?
Shit no. I've heard there are some good ones out there, but them must be restricted to 99th degree Grand Illuminati Dragon Masters, because all we get is shite.

>>19567663
>case literally just had a poker set in it
That's hilarious.

>>19568260
>EA - Introduction to concepts on learning
>FC - Application of knowledge, introduction to the sciences
>MMM - Practical applications, emphasis on merit above position
>MM - Primacy of honour and virtue, long term planning
Screw it, just read them http://www.stichtingargus.nl/vrijmetselarij/ritualen_en.html
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>>19563244
I like to travel. From east to west, mostly. Yourself?
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>>19563399
Don't feed the Trolls, anon...
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>>19563540
No.
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>>19569601
good link
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>>19569602
I got that hot bitch in my home
You know how many hot bitches I own?
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>>19571964
when the only thing i need to know is everytime i ever exzisted and reincarnated everyone abandons me. it is the only thing i need to remember when it comes to these cucks. i just see useless exzistances incapable of being decent for the betterment of man. please just do you job and stop appearing before me. you guys are a disgrace to my sight and internet. everytime always my dad never you. why would you ever think you deserve my love.
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>>19563301
Being stupid enough to believe in gravity.
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>>19563412
>That is meaningless unless you are a 33rd degree, which you aren't.

This. 99.9% of freemasons are just good little sheep being led.
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>>19571998
Being led to pancakes?
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>>19572012
If you are not going to add something of substance kindly go back to plebbit.
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>>19572040
Being led to goat milk?
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>>19571998
Led where? And why would one side degree matter so much?
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>>19571964
rock-a-fella records
it's a glorious occasion!
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>>19572074
שניהם
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Not a Free Mason, but my granddad was. I say "was" because he got bored and stopped going while he was retired.

I went to some of the stuff he did with the Shriners club in my county (those are the guys that wear the little red hats, and I forgot what they're called). It was mostly community service stuff like the local fairs and carnivals. They also put on an "Alternative Prom" for all the high school seniors that can't afford the real ones all the high schools hold at Disney.

From what I understand it was more of a networking thing. Our Mayor goes as a Free Mason, and just about all the cops are Shriners. A bunch of board members at the non-profit I work for are members of one or the other, and just about every kid I graduated with attends the public meetings (some of them are in tech and say it's a good way to find Series A funding for projects).

The craziest thing I ever heard of them doing is hazing. My granddad says it was a "ritual." And when he explained it to me it sounded like some college frat stuff. He got an invite from some guy in a cloak who hand delivered it to the office he worked for at our local zoo. It was apparently a bunch of grown men making them carry out crazy dares in private. They don't do hazing anymore though. I think they stopped doing that about 10-or-so years ago. I'm up for an invite within the next couple of years as long as I can find the free time to finish the community service hours, and I'm pretty sure I have to start out as a Shriner if I remember correctly.

So I'm a bit skeptical about Free Mason conspiracy theories.
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>>19571964
DONT LET HIM INTO HIS ZONE
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>>19563291
I wish you'd fall into outer space.
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I had freemasions in the family they are not Christians i do think they do witch craft type shit its unreal but do help out with the community
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>>19563226
By letters four and science five, this “G” aright doth stand, in due Art and Proportion; you have your answer, friend.
http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/0034-4885/60/2/001/meta
>Improvements in our knowledge of the absolute value of the Newtonian gravitational constant, G, have come very slowly over the years. Most other constants of nature are known (and some even predictable) to parts per billion, or parts per million at worst. However, G stands mysteriously alone, its history being that of a quantity which is extremely difficult to measure and which remains virtually isolated from the theoretical structure of the rest of physics. Several attempts aimed at changing this situation are now underway, but the most recent experimental results have once again produced conflicting values of G and, in spite of some progress and much interest, there remains to date no universally accepted way of predicting its absolute value.
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>>19563191

Masons believe in teaching the value of hardwork and displine using symbolism. For example the bottom floor of solomons temple is suppose to represent the battle between good and evil which is why the jews insist it be built at a 50/50 ratio with them setting up a bunch of artificial symbols carefully explaining why they get everything, regardless of Gods opinion on the matter, which they don't really care about because according to them the Jews write the law.
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>>19563226
gay
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>>19564767
>no self respecting mason
*No true scotsman
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Masons are told that if they share what they know its lights out. Unless you become a member you'll never know.
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>>19575111
>Masons are told that if they share what they know its lights out.
Nah. Just the handful of secrets. And if you do, it's just being kicked out.
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>>19567938
http://masoniclibrary.com

The only secrets are the discussions between brethren. Those are just private and sealed by the code of, well, privacy.

The rest you can find on the web.
The ceremonies just represent the skill learned in actual real life situations.
The ceremony is there to celebrate the reach of a next level.
It's not that hard to crack.
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Its just a power cult, like any other.
They were the first major group to accept subordination into the Illuminati, this happened before 1800, since then their dogmatic goals are irrelevant.
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>>19575111
If your not a Member and you come to Gnosis anyway these rules dont apply.
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Αγεωμέτρητος μηδείς εισίτω
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>>19577102
τι?
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>>19563226
Great Architect = God
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The Great Architect is the Chief Craftsmasn.

He is the First Ruler or Archon.

When you come to Gnosis you have two choices.

You can kneel to the Chief Archon as your Lord and God.

Or you can Rebel against him and the other Archons and instead seek for the Light of the Aeons and the Monad.

The True Father of All the Pleroma.
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>>19577391
What is a monad?
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>>19568423

Just a few questions for any Masons here.

Why are they called "Sons of the Widow?"
How does that relate to the teachings of Jesus Christ?
How do the two pillars relate to bringers of pain, suffering and despair?
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>>19577410
The Monad is the Aeon of Aeons.

The Supreme Being that Gnostics call the One or the All.

The First Principle.

The Pleroma is the Realm of Light and the Archons are in the Realm of Darkness.
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The Universe is more then just this 4th dimensional realm we know.

The Pleroma is the Fullness. Its where the Aeons reside.

`````````````


He-Who-Is is ineffable. No principle knew him, no authority, no subjection, nor any creature from the foundation of the world, except he alone. For he is immortal and eternal, having no birth; for everyone who has birth will perish. He is unbegotten, having no beginning; for everyone who has a beginning has an end. No one rules over him. He has no name; for whoever has a name is the creation of another. He is unnameable. He has no human form; for whoever has human form is the creation of another. He has his own semblance - not like the semblance we have received and seen, but a strange semblance that surpasses all things and is better than the totalities. It looks to every side and sees itself from itself. He is infinite; he is incomprehensible. He is ever imperishable (and) has no likeness (to anything). He is unchanging good. He is faultless. He is everlasting. He is blessed. He is unknowable, while he (nonetheless) knows himself. He is immeasurable. He is untraceable. He is perfect, having no defect. He is imperishably blessed. He is called 'Father of the Universe'.
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>>19571998

The way you're saying that as if it's some sort of problem? Is it? And if so, what is it and what are the ramifications of it?
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>>19563191
>Guys what's the secret of the freemasons?
there is no secret. they are just boring people who do nothing. you may as well be asking about the illuminaughty. equally boring people
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>>19577420
>Why are they called "Sons of the Widow?"
The widow represents the Earth. The son represents the Sun.

>How does that relate to the teachings of Jesus Christ?
Freemasonry doesn't have any set beliefs. It's mostly a mixture of ritual and fraternizing.

>How do the two pillars relate to bringers of pain, suffering and despair?
They don't. They represent the Sun and the Moon.
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>>19563191

Either ritual sodomy, or the fact that many of them are trannies. The best ones go into Hollywood, pro sports, and politics.
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>>19563952
There's actually a lodge held at a bowling alley in the city i live in. Just google freemasonry and your city and you'll probably find a membership form. Iirc when the freemasonry thing was mainstream a few of my friends or acquintances decided to join. My grandfather is a freemason, he was around before memes young lad.

However, i do not know wether or not freemasonry is a good or bad phenomenon. The term always appealed to me as i think it is ridiculous we are not allowed to build upon the land ''owned' by organizations. Essentially free building (free masonry) as a craft is certainly something i find an ideal. Are there any masons here whom can clarify wether or not freemasonry is about building and the morality behind the doctrine... the allegations of satanism and child rape are slanderous, obviously, and it is worth knowing wether or not they are true :/

>>19564505
Actually christianity is about all life, as God himself said he would walk the earth as every living being to come and every being that has been. That's what the whole first and last, alpha and omega is about...
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>>19564505
And you don't realize yet what Jesus did for christianity do you? He's the reason christians stopped sacrificing animals, if we are to beleive the bibles' account.

it's the year 2017, that's 2017 years A.D
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>>19568554
Already have immortality. Death is just a procedure to the next life

.>>19571974

dude smoke some weed and chill and think about what you gonna do in life
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>>19577807
>dude smoke some weed
Are you offering?
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>>19569594
Aww, is that what they taught you your first day at the lodge? That's cute.
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>>19577929
It can't possibly stand for "Morning Star", could it? It's a fukken G
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How true is this image?
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The freemasons are a recruting ground for gang stalking.

I don't doubt there are many freemasons who think they do something good for society, both the masons who are in the known and the ones who aren't.

They play their tittle eugenics and social policing game, both them their rich frat kids. I am free to say so because if anything happens to me they will get the consequences.
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>>19563226
IT MEANS GNOSIS!!!
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>>19563191
>Was there any leak or did they really manage to keep it a secret?
They really managed to keep it secret.
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>>19578218
Not very. A lot of Masons hate it because not only are some of the degrees wrong, it sends the wrong message.
Those degrees aren't higher than MM. There isn't some hierarchy with 33rd and KT at the top on equal footing. And in fact, the A&AR degrees (on the left) aren't even relevant, because the jurisdiction it describes starts you out at 32nd.

>>19577929
Technically they don't bring that up til at least the 2nd or 3rd degree.
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Freemasony was founded on murder and deception. Masons (pre freemasonry) stoneworkers who held the keys of wisdom and sacred ratios began to allow noblemen into their lodges so they could learn the "secrets". Eventually there were enough noblemen who had joined lodges to where they all got together and kicked the actual stonworkers (true masons) out. That is the beginning of freemasonry as we see it today. There is a whole text that i am referencing here, going to look for it now because there actually was a specific murder of a mason by rited nobleman to spur the usurping of original masonry.
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>>19579255
>kicked the actual stonworkers (true masons) out.
Not so much. Many early speculative lodges required an operative member to be present at a meeting.
It's just that ever since the Tudor period, stonemasonry was on a massive downturn, so there weren't many actual stonemasons left by that point. Ergo the letting speculatives in to keep it going.
>going to look for it now because there actually was a specific murder of a mason by rited nobleman to spur the usurping of original masonry.
Well this ought to be good.
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>>19577430
I know Weor's words anywhere
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>>19579281
Cant find the orgional page unfortunately but you can have some fun by Googling William Morgan the murder victim in question.
Tl.Dr.- Morgan wants to expose secrets of masonry; murdered by masons

Will be on the lookout for the page i first saw, broke everything down quite well.
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>>19579332
Hah, good one.
In the event you're not joking:
Morgan vanished in 1826. Speculative lodges were not only well established, but our current system was wholly in place by then.
He wasn't actually a stonemason, but a bricklayer.
And he probably wasn't murdered by Masons, as the book he wanted to publish was just a local version of an existing exposure (one of many). The vanishing was just a publicity stunt to sell a book which many people already had in different form.
When a body was found, the sheriff (Eli Bruce) and his publishers were quoted as saying, "That's a good enough Morgan for now", as a way of pretending he was dead. Of course, the dead man's wife promptly came forward and pointed out it was her husband (Timothy Munro), not Morgan.

And most importantly, this was just an Eastern American event. Didn't really mean shit to the world.
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https://discord.gg/ytJsaqY most active /x/ discord in regards to vc; banter, esoteric discussion, paranormal and more
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https://discord.gg/ytJsaqY most active /x/ discord in regards to vc; banter, esoteric discussion, paranormal and more (math, cs, physics, comp eng, audio eng)
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http://www.sacred-texts.com/mas/morgan/morg12.htm

The secret is "G".
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>>19563220
This. I'm late to the thread but the secrets of being a mason are like the secrets of being a father or a husband or a businessman. There's not a list of secret gold or secret assassinations. It's about helping people and being the best you can be, loving God.

It's really not that difficult to become a 32nd degree Mason. If you're male and can set aside eight hours a week for two years you can do it. And that still makes it sound harder than it is. A lot of that time is spent eating spaghetti. If there was some big conspiracy someone would have gone through the motions and exposed it by now.
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>>19580898
The story of Hiram Abiff is not in the Bible.
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>>19580990
so true, you'd think them damn hebrews would have put it in the Bible if it was that big of a deal, eh?
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>>19580990
Because that made up play isn't one of the secrets. It's just a vehicle for them.
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>>19577380

Correct
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>>19563191
continuation of Templars, happy now?
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>>19563291
Gravity is hoax FORCE.
Relative density is what make stuff go up and down. Newton was an asshole.
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trump is a free mason
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>>19581247
NO FUCKING WAAYAYAY!!
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>>19568260
DMS
Its location data on the Earth surface
Carl Munck 1994
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>>19577420
Sun,son
Widow, black spider
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>>19581246
But density like that can only work with gravity?
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The free masons were started to protect and hide Mason Storm and his son from William Sadler. After We completed this mission in 1990, our primarily focus shifted to the funeral entertainment business.
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>>19577807
>Already have immortality
Prove it.
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>>19563226
It stands for go in Pokemon go
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>>19581247

Anyone have pictures, or paintings, of Presidents, or other public figures in Masonic regalia? The only ones I've seen have been Washington, and, I think, Truman. I think I watched a documentary once that said Jefferson was a Rosacurcian as well.
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>>19581905
Nope.
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>>19563322

The first rule of Masonry is: You do not talk about Masonry . The second rule of Masonry is: You DO NOT TALK ABOUT MASONRY!
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