The most "famous magicians" in the west were mostly ending up in poverty, or imprisoned, or persecuted, or dying young, or addicted to drugs, or often a combination of some of those things. Anyone can simply learn about their lives and see this. Cagliostro, Crowley, Levi, Mathers, Spare, Agrippa, John Dee and the list goes on.
Isn't that proof that "spells" and shit like doesn't work for shit? They couldn't properly attract money or health into their life, meanwhile random non-occult faggots all over the world can.
>>19542646
I wonder how many we haven't heard about that ended up conversely.
>>19542646
That's why it isn't the way... I mean Giving a shit about things that never mattered in the first place. Constantly focused on things you don't have instead of going with the flow
Magic isn't real. The people that seriously practice it are insane, hence end up in poverty.
>>19542646
black magic heroin spells.... had to leave those friends
>>19542646
Hello, AstralSurvivor9.
Levi was publishing until shortly before death.
"Poverty" is rather a harsh description of Dee's twilight. Dude died old, and rather more comfortable than wiki implies (living on sales of collections).
No evidence exists that Agrippa was seriously accused, much less persecuted, for his interest in or practice of magical or occult arts during his lifetime.
We don't know how Mathers died. A&O was already restabilizing under his and Moina's helm.
Cagliostro was, indeed, bad end.
Crowley died in at Netherwood, a retirement home for professors, with a lockbox of cash under his bed, a five or six room apartment, and was taken off heroin a full nine months before death.
Spare seems to be a case of renunciation. He had exhibits late in life and could have elected to take it on the road but seemed content to masturbate into clay pots with a dozen cats in his attic room. For a 70 year old dude with as many problems as he had, Spare got along GREAT until '56.
>>19543886
lol you and that tranny goblin are fighting reeeeal hard for the most retarded /x/ user eh
>>19543979
Do you have counter assertions from primary sources, like the Yorke Microfilms, Sloane MSS, or publication dates or are you just here to namecall?
>>19543985
Not him but you tend to make it easy when you decide not to be anonymous on an anonymous board. If it's any consolation I think tranny goblin wins or azure/hermit/victory for his multiple personas and ego. Hanz is pretty fucked too
>>19544017
If this is supposed to be anonymous board why have I, since day one, had the "name" field with tripcode support?
>>19544040
Idk man, idk why you'd do that.
The real magicians of the age are Moore, Dawkins, Leary, and Morrison
>>19544040
So we can spot the special snowflake faggots. Faggot.
>>19544017
I'm capping this.
Love you too!
>>19542646
This is one reason Yahweh forbids sorcery...