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Why does everyone except Russians hate him? Is there a conspiracy

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Why does everyone except Russians hate him?
Is there a conspiracy against him?
A smear campaign?

Why do Russians love him?
Why most communists hate him?
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its not Stalin.
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>>19506003
>>19506036
Who is this then? Looks like Stalin without the household moustache to me.
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>>19506003
CIA is known for their lies
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>>19506041
this chin is not Stalin`s
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>>19506047
It is him. And STOP using grave accents instead of apostrophes, you imbecile
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin#Calculating_the_number_of_victims
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler#The_Holocaust
everybody knows about this
but the real conspiracy is that Encyclopaedia Dramatica is COMPROMISED
https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/High_Score#Sid_Meier.27s_Civilization
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>>19506047
That's literally a shopped portrait of Stalin
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>>19506003
>Why does everyone except Russians hate him?
wrong
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>>19506003
Well he has the single most murderous regime in history, so that.
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>>19506003
Because people like food
And modern Russians hate him
Only collectivist retards who haven't read 1984 like him
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>Why do Russians love him?
They don't.
/thread
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>>19506167
>implying the kulaks didn't deserve it
>implying the people who got gulaged didnt deserve it
>implying the nazis that were killed by the soviets (which were probably a lot) didnt deserve it
>implying famines aren't a natural occurrence that the government can control
you aren't very smart are you
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>>19506489
but anon, George Orwell was a commie.
You've read 1984 but you didn't understand it.
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>>19506562
but this is where you're wrong
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>>19506003
He made Russia a superpower.
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>>19507025
No retard, it's not.
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>>19507058
no, really
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>>19506003
>Why most communists hate him?


¿¿??
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>>19506003
Because he was a shitty communist. Lenin was 1000x better than Stalin. Hell, Hitler was a better leader than Stalin.
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>>19506003
Why the fuck is this on x? Shouldn't this be on pol or some shit tier?
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>>19507022
Orwell was CIA agent
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>>19506003
Because he's the reason why my grand-grandparents and grandparents were exiled to Syberia. He's the reason I don't know who's my mothers father, because his bones are scattered somewhere in the Russian tundra. He's the reason my country was ruined for decades to come and we are still dealing with the repercussions of the Soviet regime.
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>>19506003
because he expelled a lot of the Jews in power through purges or something I dunno
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>>19506003
Everyone who knows is true deeds would have good reason to hate him
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>>19507254
Lenin liked Stalin, they were pretty close to buddies, even during disagreements coming to the end of Lenin's life. Stalin was an avid follower of Lenin, he remained a strong influence in his life. Stalin was an extremely powerful leader, far more so than Hitler, his ability to command, especially with extreme brutality made him revered, absolutely. People in Russia then, and still some today consider it the best time in Russia because they were just so consumed by propaganda, this is the same thing you see in NK, the personality cult absolves him of all wrong doings in their eyes.
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>>19506003
Georgians like him too
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>>19507676
No, Lenin disliked Stalin and actively wrote against him.

After he died, Stalin turned Lenin into a cult of personality, like they were always on the same side. But no, they didn't get along.

He was only a follower of Lenin in the sense that he came after Lenin.
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>>19507673
holodomor was a famine that affected a large group of people, not only ukrainians. it was not a genocide by any definition. fucking hohols
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>>19507768
Nice try Ivan/commies
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>>19507777
Devine Quads of truth agree
Get starved commies
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>>19507768
Buh muh 6 trillion
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>>19507749
Stalin revered Lenin as a younger man, they had disagreements in later life, but even when Lenin was ill and dying, he frequently visited him, first because he was charged to do so, and also because he was generally trusted to do tasks for Lenin. Maria Ulyanova even said that the relationship between Lenin and Stalin did not become sour in later life.
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>>19507022
Ah yes
After reading about a collectivist nightmare clearly the lesson was collectivism is awesome and you should try it
>durr it's actually a capitalist distopia
>animal farm was about bankers not THE PARTY
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>>19507583
>Orwell born in 1903, died in 1950
>CIA founded 1947
he was CIA in the last 3 yrs of his life or what?
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>>19506167
Omg ed isn't the reliable and nonbiased source with serious articles written by professionals itbused to be!?

Oh my godddddddd

Also: this is /x/, why is this commie troll /pol/ thread here?
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>>19507022
Later in life he became a lot more based and spoke on the damage collectivism does a lot.

He started writing "not real com/soc" stuff but later saw firsthand that these systems are fundamentally flawed and died before accepting any alternatives to the collectivism he'd grown disillusioned with. He died believing mankind was damned and could not be helped because the *ism indoctrination urged him to reject capitalism but he saw no better system.

Ever see "democracy is the worst form of government besides all the others"? While I disagree, there's a lesson there. Tere is no flawless utopia to be achieved.

People are flawed. "Capitalism is the worst system, besides all the others."
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>>19507872
Actually, there's evidence the CIA was watching him. And by "there's evidence" I mean "it's a confirmed fact."

In his younger days, he was a brainwashed party member. He was also intelligent and began to see through it later in life, hence his many horror stories on the subject even before outright bashing the fash so to speak.

He died knowing better.
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>>19507921
Ah OK yeah well I know the CIA even did shit such as producing the movie version of Animal Farm that came out after Orwell's death, but that's different than him being an agent.
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>>19506003
leftist hate winners
the biggest virtue of the left is a noble defeat.
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>>19507945
Nah, he was far from being employed by them m8.

What may well be a CIA production? The "1984" "remake" where Winston's a female. Can't wait for the robots to REEEEE "CHAD JULIAN GETS ALL THE WOMEN AND WYMSTYN IS INTO IT" on release lol
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>>19508033
I wouldn't call Hillary's tantrum noble...

She lost because nobody likes the Clintons and instead of going "hey, maybe I should stop being so shady" or something she throws a fit on paper and insults the victor lolol

"He tried to grab mah panucci y'all halp"
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>>19507910
Even if he criticized collectivism later in life, that doesn't excludes the fact that we were always at war with eurasia because they don't look like us.
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>>19508179
What even are you talking about? We're at war with eastasia. We've always been at war with eastasia, anon.
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>>19506003
You can go to the gulag for talking about the gulag, anon.
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>>19506344
Looks like trump and stalin shopped together
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>>19506489
>1984
stop posting
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>>19506489
>modern Russians hate him
Only young liberal fucktards. He is like a symbol of social justice here in Russia.
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>>19507910
>>19507945
Orwell came to Spain during the civil war in the 30s and dropped his camera to take up arms for the anarchists. Orwell was an anarchist, or at least a libertarian socialist. He used to be Marxist before this experience, but after that he realized that equality is useless without freedom.
>>19508173
Hillary Clinton is authoritarian right-wing, just like everyone else who matters in US-American politics.
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Russians like Stalin because he beat Hitler.
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>>19506003
>Why does everyone except Russians hate him?

Why else could Russians revise their history about him?

>Is there a conspiracy against him?

Is there a group of people who believe that, and admit this logic allows any ghost to tolerate a similar complaint?

>A smear campaign?

A competition for cultural importance?

>Why do Russians love him?

Why do Russians think it patriotic to feign meekness?

>Why most communists hate him?

Why was most of the soviet infrastructure designed and planned by Trotsky while Lenin was alive?
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>>19506003
I'm russian and I hate the shit out of Stalin, he was a huge faggot who deserved to be shot in the head the moment he was born.
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>>19509694
>liberal fucktards
Are you retarded? Most of the modern russians are right wing, only fucking underage retards are left wing and even those hate Stalin.
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>>19507025
We do.
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lol, there're a lot of pipl in Яussia that hate Stalin. there isnt any propaganda concernin' him or smb else (except 4 putin actually)
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>>19506003
Conspiracy theory:
He was psychic, better that Wolf Messing. It is claimed by Victor Suvorov.
He supposedly manipulated Messing him self.
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>>19506003

Conspiracy theory:
He was psychic, better that Wolf Messing. It is claimed by Victor Suvorov.
He supposedly manipulated Messing him self.
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>>19506650
are you fucking retarded
>its fine when stalin murders people
>its fine that the Soviets committed war crimes
>their ideology inevitably ends in famine but hey guys its fine its natural
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>>19509672
Are you triggered?
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>>19507673
Kulaks deserved it.
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>>19506003
Is that Cenk from TYT?
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>>19506003
Tankies like him because tankies like authoritarianism. Lefties don't like him because he's authoritarian.
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>>19507777
interesting that in 2017 quads on /x/ are used to promote glenn beck's frothing historical fabrications in an attempt to confirm the existence of a tragic yet completely non-paranormal genocide

and these aren't even the most mediocre quads currently on the board
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>>19510762
>not paranormal
Where do you think all those souls go to?
Stalin killed them so he can consume they're essence & become more powerful
>he dosent know that Stalin was a vampire
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>>19510798
well, i have to say i wouldn't be surprised to learn that
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>>19506003
It's almost like he had a shitload of people killed or something.
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>>19507025
[Citation needed]
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>>19510841
That's how powerful men work anons,that how they achieve "" godhood™""
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>>19510443
this 100%
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>>19506003
He killed about 11 million Ukrainians, for starters.
Also take it to /pol/ and /his/ if you're not just shitposting with this.
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>>19506650
>>>/pol/
Go fuck off, dipshit slav
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