What can you guys confirm are the spiritual consequences of excessive

>>19424614
We'll if you do it to the point to not seeking god, it basically becomes your god. It takes over your thoughts and you don't rise above the quick easy pleasure. I used to masterbate a lot and was usually disgusted in myself afterward

Cutting out 3d porn is the first big step.

>>19424633
>was usually disgusted in myself afterward
The vast majority of people I've seen claim this (mostly on /fit/ in all the nofap topics) are burgerstanis. Seems like this "disgust" is more a product of your overly puritanical culture than any inherent biological reaction.

>>19424653
Well I think it came from my belief that I shouldn't succumb to something I don't have to do or really even want to do. I'd just be bored and decide to get myself horny, should've been doing something at least halfway productive. I was doing it at least three times a day at one point so it made feel almost like a slave to the orgasm

>>19424667
don't try to convince yourself that you didn't want to do it, you wouldn't have done it otherwise.

IF you felt like a slave to the orgasm that' a personal issue and not reflective on the human experience as a whole.

>>19424914
Plenty of people do things that don't want do. You know I wasn't forced but there were times I deliberately made myself horny. I tend to think something should influence your horniness instead deliberately seeking out horniness. It Was definitely a personal issues. I guess I was just saying through personal experiences it was one of the things from getting anywhere spiritually. At that time I was drug addict as well. My mom had died. Many factors held me from getting anywhere spiritually

>>19424928
That's 100% you. There's nothing inherently wrong with fapping despite what the born-again charlatans at yourbrainonporn claim with zero backing from peer reviewed research

>>19424936
Yea, I guess a better way to state it is that I held myself down through these experiences. They didn't hold me down I chose to focus on them. So op can still spiritually get somewhere but should be careful since like me, he sees it as a problem

there's nothing wrong with masturbation, just like...chill. unless the material is questionable, it doesn't matter. It's natural.

i mean there are far worse things you could do than fap

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>>19424614
>What can you guys confirm are the spiritual consequences of excessive masturbation?
If you are sharing masturbation with your husband or wife over video or audio channels, its no different than sex, and not sinful at all, since the marriage bed is not defiled.

Remember that a Love relationship is a spiritual commitment to sexual expression with ONE person in the eyes of God and each other, and the eyes of God. Papers don't make you married, acting out sexual loyalty in the eyes of each other and the eyes of God, with the promise never to be disloyal and only be sexual with your partner alone, is what makes you married. The papers are only an outward sign of an inward spiritual vow.

If you are masturbating to pornography, images of multiple different people you don't know personally, or if you are masturbating in the presence of anyone other than your True Love, you are inviting spiritual consequences which include, among other things, setting up a damaging spiritual cycle where you destroy chances of having True Intimacy with anyone after that.

By masturbating to images of anyone except your True Love, or masturbating with anyone except your True Love, you are completely betraying your True Love, and showing God, your Love, and yourself, that intimacy is worthless to you. Consequently, you will lose that intimacy, or any chances of True Intimacy in the future. Then your heart will grow cold, and you will live a lonely, unfulfilled life that will eventually lose its thrill, leaving you damaged and bitter.

If you are in a Love relationship, you are committing an act of betrayal against your True Love by experiencing an orgasm without your True Love present. It should NEVER happen, or you will sow a seed of separation that will eventually cause you to reap a harvest.

Sexual expression and orgasms are designed to bring two people closer together by pair bonding, and sharing that pair bond with anyone else, even images of strangers, is adultery.

>>19424928
My point is, that if you have the power to not do something then it's your choice, but that's not to say our choices can't stunt us spiritually.

Personally, I feel as though masturbation is a major drain on my life-force, whereas sex with a female is invigorating. If I masturbate, I tend to lose motivation and I sometimes get depressed.

Queue the fedora to reply and say "science" doesn't support my claims. This is simply what I have observed; follow your intuition -- there is a reason you asked this question.

>>19424614
there's no consequences other than if you're constantly masturbating to porn -- i would suggest you start masturbating to your imagination instead. there are actual spiritual consequences to excessive masturbation TO PORN.

>>19424983
> that's not to say our choices can't stunt us spiritually.
Very true, Anon. Intimacy takes long to build, and seconds to ruin.

If you are in a relationship and you experience orgasm without your Love present, or you make the decision to withhold yourself sexually from your partner, you will damage intimacy to the point that God an the Universe will not just provide another opportunity for you to squander such a delicate and beautiful gift. Between committed Lovers, neither should have an orgasm without the other, neither should allow themselves to orgasm to images of or in the presence of anyone but their Love (unless their Love knows, and agrees beforehand), and you should never withhold yourself sexually from your Lover in any way. You're not going to be in the mood every time your Lover is, and vice versa, but sex should be simple gift that is cheerfully given to your Love as a physical conversation just as easily as verbal conversation or expression of Love to each other. It's really not that big a deal, and truly intimate lovers, who really care, should be free with each others' bodies with each other, without hiding or holding back. Even if you;re not in the mood, you can get in the mood quite easily, and even if you can't get in the mood, if you love your partner, you should take pleasure in giving them pleasure, as a generous person, even if you aren't getting much out of it at the time. Because the day will come when you need them to have sex with you, and they won;t feel like it, yet they should be just as willing to have a physical conversation with their bodies as easily as you do. And no hiding, okay? Hiding your body, not showing your body to your Love sends a message to your Love that you want them to stay away, that you don't want to let them in. This can cause a Lover to seek pornography when they don't want to, because they enjoy seeing the nude human form, when in their hearts all they really desire is to see you.

>>19424999
>Personally, I feel as though masturbation is a major drain on my life-force, whereas sex with a female is invigorating. If I masturbate, I tend to lose motivation and I sometimes get depressed.
same though.

I think the better question is why are there so many masturbation threads on /x/ right now

>>19425047
The global consciousness is waking up to many things simultaneously. The spiritual repercussions of masturbation is one of these things.

>>19424614
well disregarding spiritual implications for a second,, it clouds your mind so to speak.you become less able to focus on anything full,your thoughts become scattered and you shorten your lifespan.
spiritually, unless your a hardcore taoist or similar and know what your dong with your energy then it tends to reverse spirituality, it brings out a more material you

>>19425061
>you shorten your lifespan.
Citation fucking needed

>>19425047
Why is this even a question, you know why because /x/ don't get laid.

This thread is new era Christian/feminist shill propaganda dog shit and fucc you for trying to guilt trip me for masturbating when there are horrific things happening in the world right now.

>>19424978
Isn't there a something in bible about wasting your seed upon the ground being a sin

We've gone over this so many times.

>>19425587
There's also something in the bible about homofags being equal to murderers and how they should be stoned to death but I don't see that happening.

>>19425587
that's actually a misconception
god has given that one seed the specific purpose of impregnating that one woman, but he decided to jack off instead

Nothing you just have sex with an ethereal zombie Succubus that have demon babies.
that become part of the scourge that is currently leeching the spiritual energy from everyone's on the planet. but it feels good right

>>19425423
Why are you masturbating when there's horrible things happening?

when they tell you masturbation makes you blind theyre talking about your third eye. now keep in mind that theres a difference between browsing porn and abusing your cock all day vs maybe playing with your dingle wheile its hard and horny in the morning. just try not to cum unless you really mean it.

>>19424614
if i cut off your little finger you wouldn't have any spiritual problems from it.

masturbation is the equivalent of a haircut - there is zero disruption to your spiritual well being.

Honestly, if you smash a spider you do more spiritual damage to yourself than if you just rub one out.