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Is it possible that the reason that a key part of the Beta K

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Is it possible that the reason that a key part of the Beta Kitten conditioning process under Project Monarch for most victims at some point in their lives is bottle-blonde hair inspired by Project prototype Marilyn Monroe because bleached hair can remove virtually all traces of heavy psychedelic/hallucinogenic drugs administered to the victims' bodies?

>"Bleaching the hair can remove between 40-80% of metabolites found in the hair strand. If multiple bleaching attempts are made a participant can remove all drugs from their hair."
source: https://www.dnalegal.com/resource/153/can-bleached-hair-be-tested-alcohol-and-drugs

practically every entertainer believed to be a "kitten/monarch" has bleached their hair, often during periods of great upheaval and instability (possibly coinciding with heavy reprogramming requiring extreme levels of hallucinogens)

as soon as Miley Cyrus went into wild-hippie-sex-kitten mode she was bleached and most of her chopped off (hiding adolescent drug metabolites?) though she openly admitted to using hallucinogens so perhaps the bleach was symbolic. more damning is Katy Perry's recent bleach/cut job coinciding with her revealing her recent suicidal ideation and depression. the clincher for this theory for me is that Kanye West's complete meltdown resulted in him getting bleached apparently while institutionalized.

my mother who is a former agent in US military intelligence believes the hair cutting to extremely shorts lengths for female victims is a form of traumatic punishment and openly signals recent disobedience to handlers and members of the elite/underworld community, lowering their status and stock as a commodity, Britney Spears being the ultimate example

thoughts on the theory?
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Nice find bro. Totally makes sense, I thought it was just a symbol of docility.

I think a similar link can be made with the term cheese pizza for sexual debauchery, eating a lot of cheese and breed feeds gut bacteria which increases lustful thoughts and sexual urges.
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>>19306406
can confirm am royal bloodline i hate shaving my head but sometimes i can;t restrain myself.
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>>19306420
"cheese pizza" can have so many connotations, including what you mentioned

obviously CP = Child Porn, but perhaps the yellow of the cheese could abstractly symbolize blonde hair as well since that seems to be the preference for child victims. I've also heard of children being disguised with blonde wigs, both for fetish and anti-detection purposes

I myself am a natural blonde and have serious reason to believe I was used for underground child pornography

>>19306439
do tell

I'm not sure I'd be considered "royal" but I am a bloodliner with Masonic heritage and distant royal/imperial lineage, mostly illegitimate. my farthest paternal ancestor was a famous druid and my farthest known maternal ancestor was a midwife/witch, with the noble ancestry in the middle, it be great to hear from someone in similar circumstances

you say you shave your head yourself, would you say this is usual or unusual for people in your position? is there a distinction between yourself and "slaves"? how often do you use hallucinogens and do you do so of your own volition or are they forced on you?

I only recently became aware of the truth about my family and they refuse to tell me anything directly though they have confirmed that we are generational occultists, possibly Satanic/Luciferian, and that I have been subjected to programming
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>>19306406
Is it possible that your speech/typing patterns are indicative of delusional/hallucinatory mental illness? Find out, at 11!
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>>19306557
It would be usual dependent on the degree of obeying, I'm a slave to fulfilling the desires of my family no matter how much i fight it i end up obeying, I've used hallucinagions a couple times since my overdose initiation, and that was to initiate others, at a lower dose then i experienced, they were my own violation but they weren't i was moulded to walk that path.
>>19306557
>they refuse to tell me anything directly though
Same, mine have confirmed in the way of ancestor heritage but not in the way of we do x to produce y.
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So Brittany Spears had a meltdown and they, what...? I mean, last I heard she's happy, dedicated Christian, sort of just an all American pop star. Did she get a reboot or is she a replacement look-alike? Why hasn't Ariana bleached yet? Is this a white's only pedo ring?

It's no secret that (female) pop stars are pushed to manipulate their sexuality. If Miley is some MKUltra sex kitten, does that mean Wayne Coyne is a predator or recruiter or something?

Or maybe people have breakdowns sometimes, others they just want a big change, and bleaching is a common go to? And eventually they'll change again when they realize bleaching your hair once a month is awful? Miley expresses regret on bleaching her hair so much, growing it out as been a long process for her. Yet she's still hanging out with the same people, doing pretty much the same things.

I don't know why I'm entertaining this thread, but thanks for letting me know about bleach removing metabolites.
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>>19306643
also
>tfw boyfriend's stepbrother has masonic / "royal blood," looks like child of the corn and is an autistic animefag living in his dad's basement
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>>19306599
>I've used hallucinagions a couple times since my overdose initiation, and that was to initiate others

so you are an active, if unwilling participant in programming others? or is the initiation more spiritual/symbolic rather than for MK purposes?

you agree your family won't tell you anything directly, but you are involved in the scene and workings of the community, how were you introduced?

I ask because my theory is that introduction to the truth is not done by family but by peers who have been positioned to be around the ones yet to be initiated. I have corresponded with a famous artist who told me most of the people who appear to coincidentally have befriended or involved themselves with us are there for illicit reasons, such as conditioning and monitoring

it breaks my heart, because my most serious boyfriend to date appears to have been my initiator, he introduced me to psychedelia recreationally so I know he had access to it and one night I became mysteriously very sick and he had me lie down and kept bringing me glasses of water to drink, forcefully insisting I drink them one after the other, so many times I lost count

from there for a period of months I completely lost control of my own thoughts, I believe he had drugged me and began conditioning me, his behavior became bizarre and cryptic, I was terrified of him yet I loved and still love him with all my heart

what followed after that night involved hospitalizations, unknown locations, imprisonment, endless tests of character, torture, etc, my boyfriend always being a key figure in these events

do you think he was in a similar position to you? do you think he was likely forced to do this to me?
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>>19306643
>Why hasn't Ariana bleached yet? Is this a white's only pedo ring?

Well, I guess you could say Ariana got blacked instead of bleached.
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>>19306680
That sounds like shizophrenia, psychedelics obviously triggered it.
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>>19306688
"I had to bleach my hair and dye it red every other week for the first 4 years of playing Cat." So now it's closer to her natural hair color.

Moving on, what about P!nk? Or was she too old and unruly to begin with?
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>>19306688
So, reverted to her natural hair color? How incredibly compelling.

>>19306699
Uhhh...yuh...h-have you read the OP? It has schizo written all over it. The speech patterns, the typing style, the disorganization...
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>>19306707
This whole board has schizo written all over it, but that's just how it is. OP just suggested a theory.
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>>19306680
>so you are an active, if unwilling participant in programming others?
Yes I'm active, yes I'm unwilling, when i program it feels like I'm showing them the light, it's like a temporary state of psychosis. I would say it's more spiritual than MK, father is defense force surname created the reserve bank, mother is Celtic descendant, I was introduced through third parties, people i thought were friends but were placed within my vision to mold my experience,
>>19306680
>truth is not done by family but by peers who have been positioned to be around the ones yet to be initiated.
Beat me to the punchline lmfao
>my most serious boyfriend to date appears to have been my initiator
They do tend to abuse the love emotion for there agenda it was used on me.
>I was terrified of him yet I loved and still love him with all my heart
They leave one in this state as it makes it harder for the victim to flee.
>do you think he was likely forced to do this to me?
Not forced, but forced, he likely was to dissociated to even realize what he was doing, he didn't consciously know what he was doing, but subconsciously he was obeying most commands.
If the programmer realizes there behavior it's likely they will disobey, even they have morals, i doubt he would have did what he did if he knew what he was doing.
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>>19306643
Your skepticism towards the subject is completely understandable, I myself was a staunch skeptic of it myself mainly because it's designed to be that way, a refuge in audacity

I would never have believed in any of this if I hadn't not only been directly exposed to the underworld but also had it's veracity confirmed by trustworthy rational people, otherwise I would (rather) think I had just had an atypical bizarre series of episodes

>So Brittany Spears had a meltdown and they, what...?
Took away her basic human rights. Just before the steep decline into instability Spears had been making overtures of rebellion and exposing the underworld. Spears is probably the most clear successor to Monroe's legacy as an ultimate Beta Kitten model with massively iconic yet subversive influence on the public, especially children and promoting jailbait sexuality

she tried to rebel and her abusers obliterated her. she now is still under total conservatorship of father (who likely was her first handler/rapist) with no control over her life or more importantly her financial assets

>last I heard she's happy
as happy as one can be given her circumstances, she has access to her children and she seems to be left alone for the most part, having learned her lesson
>dedicated Christian
victims can be raised with (on the surface) and hold to whatever religion they desire, especially if it's as marketable to middle America as Christianity. what matters is the occultism the sub-alters are exposed to

>is she a replacement look-alike?
I don't believe in those sorts of theories, they are most likely disinformation

.Why hasn't Ariana bleached yet?
she hasn't disobeyed enough or been in a comprising enough situation that would expose her drug history. It's possible that her very long and seemingly mostly untreated hair act as a desirable insurance trait for prospective buyers. people in this system are constantly aware of the threat of serious exposure to the truth of their crimes-
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>>19306643
cont. from >>19306748

a buyer of Ariana could use her hair samples as leverage if the masquerade is ever broken and the "Illuminati" system is forced into the public eye. this is why it's a serious downgrade in status for a victim to damage and/or lose their hair, their buyer can no longer use that as a just-in-case trump card

>Is this a white's only pedo ring?
the perpetrators are predominantly white due to the importance of lineage linked to European nobility, but one of the most famous ringmasters in the Franklin Credit Union scandal was black

as for the victims, white children are the standard coveted, but there are always abusers with "exotic" tastes and no child is safe

>does that mean Wayne Coyne is a predator or recruiter or something?
as a Flaming Lips fan I may be biased, but he seems more likely to be a slave than a handler but men do generally have more agency and the lines can be blurred one victim's handler may be an elite's slave in a twisted chain of ownership

>Yet she's still hanging out with the same people, doing pretty much the same things.
not sure what you mean by this, I don't actually pay to much attention to celebrity news, but if she's hanging out with old friends, especially the Disney crowd, they are more than likely part of the system

as far as I can tell, my generation's programming is more clean and seamless, with victims being able to adjust better back to a stable life because their programming and conditioning allows them to suppress and forget what they've been through, their alters more precisely contained and managed

taking myself for example, after about a two year period of torture I am currently living on a tropical island with family and even laugh most days, we just don't talk about what happened and I've surprised myself with my resilience

>thanks for letting me know about bleach removing metabolites.
you're welcome
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>>19306814
>I am currently living on a tropical island
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>>19306688
>>19306704
scratch what I said about her hair being valuable

>>19306699
I agree actually and wanted to believe that, my mother straight up telling me otherwise prevents that however

>>19306707
>Uhhh...yuh...h-have you read the OP? It has schizo written all over it. The speech patterns, the typing style, the disorganization...
aww, and here I thought I was concise and linear, I guess it has that vibe due to the outlandish content and my casual attitude about capitlization

>>19306713
>This whole board has schizo written all over it
it amuses me to no end that people on this board will dead seriously ask how to summon a succubus or how to become a vampire, but as soon as you mention a real world conspiracy physically and functionally possible, suddenly yer a skhizo

Fuck Alex Jones and his ilk for spreading ludicrous disinfo like Reptilians and all that fantasy bs into a serious assault on human rights that is at literal Holocaust-levels
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>>19306733
>Not forced, but forced, he likely was to dissociated to even realize what he was doing, he didn't consciously know what he was doing,

that seems to be how he behaved towards the end, when I tried to ask him why he did the things he did, specific inexplicable actions, he would just respond with ashamed confusion and "I don't know"

he knew whatever just happened couldn't be explained with mundane answers, but he refused to talk about it all

he had trouble looking at me after the worst of it, I think on some level he does remember and it kills him

I think he sent me a message though. While we were apart over the holidays he violently bit his tongue almost in half and later showed me the wound

I think he was trying to tell me that he desperately wanted to answer my questions but he literally couldn't

I know it's melodramatic to ask, but if he really was my initator, do you think it's possible he genuinely loved me as much as he made me believe he did?
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>>19306814
Hoards of Miley fans used to harass Wayne and his GF for "ruining" Miley and turning her into a dirty hippie slut. Miley is good friends with them both and seemed inseparable for a long while there when she came out with that horrible album Dead Petz.

Meanwhile when she first cut and bleached her hair, she collaborated with Borgore on a song that has over 1.5 million views on YT now... I'm just struggling to tie your theory to her timeline and what the overall goal is with this organization practicing slavery. If she had kept focus on dubstep and other club music, she would be a money making machine but instead she's hanging out doing drugs with Wayne Coyne, admiring other artists like Joan Jett, Kathleen Hanna and John Waters, doing naked yoga and making shitty experimental albums while she grows her hair back out.
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>>19306823
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>>19306983
Looks nice there. I'm jealous
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>>19306938
it's debatable to what level of autonomy victims have over their lives and the direction of their art, it most likely varies from case to case

usually, the themes and symbols used are actually very personal and biographical about the victim, big egos are encouraged and make the victim more willing by giving them the illusion of expression and importance

the strategy with Cyrus could be that they are attempting to establish her as a genuine and serious artist with this phase being the imperfect experimental period in her career that is lackluster but a key ground level work for a trajectory into being more than just a popstar

or they're just doing a hands-off approach to let Cyrus party hard and fail financially to prove that she needs their guidance and influence to be relevant

lots of theoretical reasons
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>>19307027
it's been extremely therapeutic, negative ions and all that jazz

now I just need to work up the nerve to see an actual therapist and unload some of this baggage. it's going to be messy
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>>19306908
Possibly, but how could you trust him ever? Just try to get to a place where you can feel love for him human to human. Empathize with his abuse because you yourself understand suffering. Unless you can read minds you'll never know if he loved you. You can choose to make peace and leave it in the past or repeat the past. Focus on yourself and be careful of who you trust. Even a therapist.
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this is a guilty pleasure conspiracy of mine. britney, katy perry and kanye all make it seem real
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>>19307110
I've consciously resigned myself to the fact that we'll never get back together, though I still search for him in my dreams

I keep telling myself that someone better is out there, someone who isn't involved in this bullshit, but it's a slow process convincing myself

there was a sick sense of security and belonging when he became the handler and me the slave while I was with him, a warm black primitive part of my mind that felt like I belonged completely to him and that he would protect me, like a scared rabbit nestled under a massive bear, a dangerous bear that knew how to get rid of other predators

he touched parts of me so intimately they left me speechless, parts I didn't know were there

I marveled at the genius and precision in how he would test me and manipulate me, the commanding look in his eyes, the stern turn of his mouth, the way he positioned that door just right in relation to the lamp to make his shadow look like a winged horned demon while he was on top of me, the way he talked to me tenderly like a child or even a pet

it was toxic and intoxicating, it was forbidden and it took me a very long time to get over the guilt that parts of me enjoyed some of it, to understand that I was supposed to respond the way I did because I was never in control and there were hidden identities inside me that were designed to live for that purpose

hopefully one day I can find someone who really will protect and heal me
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>>19307226
hopefully one day I can find someone who really will protect and heal me

a fully integrated version of yourself could do this if you choose.
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>>19307226
Lol at the drawing, but seriously like one anon said the psychedelic drugs caused your obvious schizophrenia/psychosis.
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>>19306983

That almost looks like New Zealand.

Good theory btw.
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>>19307553
that would make sense if family members hadn't told me otherwise, including both my parents

like I said, I wish I was crazy, crazy can be managed
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>>19307597
If they really did, they were probably just fucking with you. Or you're lying and you're out of your mind and really need to get some help, go to that therapist and tell them everything that's going on, everything. So you can get some help.
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>>19307198
And
Brittany Spears
And
Lindsay Lohan
And
Countless others who havent been picked up on
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>>19307616
Pete Wentz
Amanda Bynes
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>>19306814
My GF of many years admitted to me when were 11 or 12 years old she that she was part of a secret military program but kept saying she couldn't talk about it and i got no further details.

I live with this woman. This isnt the first time ive made this connection.

What do i do. What could the goal be?

More importantly what do i do?

Ive even seen the planted friends like you talked about.

My first day of HS i was befriended by a classmate 2 years my senior who did nothing but drag who i was as a person down preventing me from becoming popular purely due to association.

And upon ending the friendship he begged me through various communication methods for over year.

He gave me $300 for a birthday after i told him i never wanted to see him near me or my family again.
Fuck.

Please tell me what i should do?
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>>19306406
Late last year Kanye was forced into mental care at UCLA after this rant https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mueeKk6GweI

He came out looking like this. Very dazed, blonde hair which was never explained.
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>>19306590
Kill yourself shill.
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>>19307615
well I'm glad you've got your own two clear cut options within your comfort zone

I had acid poured on my wrist, a room full of people called me "the one" with religious fervor, a doctor lanced my clitoris with a needle, I listened to my sobbing mother tell me she only "got me back" by paying a great price to these people

it IS absolute madness what I went through but I know for a fact it did not come from within me

I actually don't blame anyone for not believing me and I agree I need help for my trauma, if I could I would pursue repressing it and pretend it was all an impossibly detailed delusion, but my family won't let me because it's too late, the masks are off for me

I was born into this under-world under extraordinary circumstances, both my parents were high clearance level spies for the US government in Russia bringing down the Soviet Union

I sound like a lame fictional character in a thriller but it's all true, confirmed by conventional reality

my own estranged father told that he'd "never forgive them for what they did to you"

if I'm insane then it's because my situation is insane

what would anyone do if it was the third option, they obviously aren't fucking with me and I'm not lying, what does one do, even hypothetically?
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>>19307876
Like I said, either you're LARPing, or you're crazy as hell.
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>>19307814
>>19306406
Sorry didn't see that the OP had already mentioned Kanye.

I think his next album will be very telling. Most fans chalk this all up to a publicity stunt (and for his sake I hope that it is/was) but if he was reprogrammed as not to act out anymore, we'll know because his content will change.
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>>19307876

I've been thinking alot lately that I may be a monarch aswell, but of course can't remember it cause of dissociation such fun.
You can imagine my suprise when i was looking at the symptoms and fit them all...
And of course i can't say any of this publically or ask my family about it ugh so irrating of course i could try regressive hypnosis but do i really want to remember it all i wounder...
https://deprogramwiki.com/deprogramming/deprogramming-modalities-for-trauma-mind-control-survivors/
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>>19307813
You are in it.

My ex boyfriend who was my "initiator", I initially thought was an outsider to this. but as I looked more and more into the rumors about my family, the relatives who bitterly accused others of the ritual abuse, what started as morbid but skeptical curiosity turned into mounting dread.

I started to notice the weird connections to my boyfriend. He and his younger sister had a strained and awkward relationship, they both had elaborate masks from their trip to Venice, he was an army brat raised on military bases his whole life

then it got serious

he revealed to me that he had a strange memory as a small child at school on the base, taken to a backroom by a female teacher and forced to watch a television with static on it and then losing consciousness only to find himself back in the classroom somehow knowing the teacher had fondled him

then the revelation came through Facebook, a girl he used to babysit accused him of molesting her and her sister, asking only for an apology

he denied it completely while still showing concern for the girls but the evidence was damning, they told his mother that whenever his name came up in their household the girls would begin sobbing

I, perhaps naively, offered to him that perhaps he was programmed too, that he did molest those girls without being conscious of it while an alter took over his body

I think this genuinely shook him and if there was a separation between his conscious self and his abuser alters, the veil was thinning and he started to see the monsters in the mirror

who knows, maybe in a way I initiated him too by pointing that out, revealing parts of himself he didn't know he had, atrocities he had no memory of committing

you and your girlfriend we brought together for a reason, I've heard of female handlers with male slaves, but more often than not it's the reverse

it's funny, maybe my ex was in your position and now his alters have taken over what was once blissful ignorance
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>>19307876
Whats the best way to handle your signifigant other being planted?

Can i deprogram them? Is their any eay to track the commands being sent.

They are diagnosed schizophrenic/ptsd and hear intrusive angry violent voices regularly despite having the most caring soul.
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>>19307876
I'm sorry that you have to deal with all the morons going "either you're crazy or you're lying" without realizing that the whole purpose of these methods of mind manipulation is to generate a state of insanity.
It's so fucked up how by this point of life people who claim to be woke and intelligent cannot seem to grasp the concept that traumatic experiences of this magnitude are what create mental illness. That's the whole basis of projects like MKultra, to induce a dissociative disorder so the controller can do as he likes with this "new psyche". That's what they did to Patty Hearst.
So thank you not only for all the info on this thread but for sharing your story. I'm really intersted and i'd love to discuss more about other similar cases.
Would anyone care to elaborate on Pete Wentz? Also wanna know more about the relation of Wayne Coyne in Miley's case.
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>>19307951
Fuck how do i live with this knowledge?
Something is going on with me. When i was 10 years old i scored on par with High School graduates and college students in terms of literacy and vocabularly.

When I was 16 i scored top 5% in the country on the ASVAB (military intelligence test).

I have such a weight within me like a feeling or emotion or truth or i dont know what trying to break through.

I feel like something is coming.

I was asleep for a long time and only recently noticed that my reality is coming apart at the seams.
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>>19307813

>>19307951

my advice is simply to be wary

be conscious of the fact that you may be being constantly manipulated, that there's almost a coded language to how people talk to you

knowledge is power and it sounds like your girlfriend has more than you, push comes to shove she may be forced to activate you if she's already been

it's interesting that there was a stage where my ex and I seemed to be competing for not so much dominance as agency. I was clearly the slave, but a scenario happened in our bedroom that seemed to be a test of my devotion.

on the dresser next to the bed was my athame dagger. my ex had laid out a white towel on the bed. he signaled for me to lay on it, like a trainer cuing an animal. I sat on it and he gently pushed me down and made me scoot so my belly was centered with the towel.

basically, I know he was going to grab the dagger and the test was for me to calmly lay there and let him do to me whatever he wanted, press it flat side to my skin, carve me, stab me, kill me

he waited for me to relax enough so that he could turn around to grab it but I couldn't, despite whatever programming I had he apparently wasn't activating it correctly and/or I was fighting against it

it's hard to describe what happened next, it's like my focus became so extreme and reactive. my ex and proceeded to... slowly almost dance against each other, him placing his hands on parts of my body, trigger points I guess, but I resisted and instinctively touched him too in random places I don't understand. we struggled against each other, gently but increasingly fiercely

we ended up both standing on the bed and he was getting aggressive, frustrated, the more forceful he got the more afraid I became, it crescendo'd to the point were he firmly grabbed my wrists and was going to throw me down that I panicked, grabbed his glasses, broke them to his complete shock and pushed him away from me off the bed
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>>19308013
it was like a spell had been broken, the look in his eyes was like he couldn't believe what he'd just been doing, like I'd awoken a sleepwalker

looking back, perhaps I fucked my initiation up completely because I resisted, the mood turned from there and the real torture began.

the life set up for me was to one day marry this man, raise children together, our family lines brought together, but I broke it all, destroyed by refusing to be a slave

I went from being considered a desired purchase by his family for their only son, to an active detriment to his own programming, the more he looked at me, the more he was reminded of the beast beneath the mask and he was not supposed to be

the alters of female slaves are typically Whore of Babylon based, we're to be mothers of antichrists, but men are programmed with alters that claim to be the Beast, the Devil Himself

perhaps I have some handler programming of my own, my childhood was chaotic and I was under the care of opposing parties at various times

that's the trouble, you don't know what's inside you

>>19307955
>Whats the best way to handle your signifigant other being planted?
if you can, separate as seamlessly and gently as possible, make it appear natural and not at all sudden, but as quick as possible under these conditions

>Can i deprogram them? Is their any eay to track the commands being sent.
you are not a handler so absolutely not. there are apparently psychologists out there trained as handlers capable of deprogramming but their not public about it and available only to the very wealthy

under no circumstances should you attempt to deprogram them, there are Delta wave killer alters in there that protect the programming, a multiple system can create new alters organically as need be, deprogramming is a battle against a hydra
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>>19308114
What to do though?

Accept the subjugation of humanity?

Fight it and get sacrificed to some occult god?


What would it take to force the handlers hand?
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>>19307955

>>19308114

>They are diagnosed schizophrenic/ptsd and hear intrusive angry violent voices regularly despite having the most caring soul.
they could legitimately have an illness or, and this is not confirmed for me, there are theoretically technologies that would allow one to transmit voices into a person's skull, a technique called V2K

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave_auditory_effect

>Fuck how do i live with this knowledge?
Day by day. I learned that at the compound when I didn't know if I was going to live or die from hour to hour

>Something is going on with me. When i was 10 years old i scored on par with High School graduates and college students in terms of literacy and vocabularly.
>When I was 16 i scored top 5% in the country on the ASVAB (military intelligence test).
all common signs

>I have such a weight within me like a feeling or emotion or truth or i dont know what trying to break through.
>I feel like something is coming.
>I was asleep for a long time and only recently noticed that my reality is coming apart at the seams.

I was at this stage about two years ago

be aware that once you give an clear indication that you are aware of the masquerade, an initiation will likely be coming

consider this, if you've been programmed under Monarch, then there are child versions of yourself trapped in time within your subconscious

they remember the abuse, they can't forget because for them it just happened or worse it's happening to them at all times

these voices crying out in pain will influence you the more you dwell on the question, until they consume you

I'm reading Dune at the moment and Herbert seems to be "in the know", with the Bene Gesserit and the Mentats being clear parallels to the MK system

believe it or not, the Litany Against Fear helps
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>>19307937
be careful with regressive hypnosis, it WILL unlock memories if they are there and it will escalate things

that's what happened with my family, my grandmother's sister was having inexplicable nightmares (flashbacks to the trauma) and she went under then completely unraveled

it fucks with the delicate programming, if you're a Millennial it's likely more stable but even so all it took for me to recover a ritual trauma memory was looking into "Illuminati" theories and thinking about my childhood

>>19307973
thank you, sincerely, I really don't mind the skeptics too much though, I used to be one, I get it

it's too unsettling, too radical and worldview changing, that's the genius of it

Most Germans during the Holocaust heard the rumors about the camps, but the refuge in audacity caused them to think they certainly weren't true, not to the extent of what it turned out to be

>>19308165
you mean during the initiation?

my advice is to just go with the flow and get it over with as smoothly and quickly as possible. do not resist.

the fear of sacrificial death is the whole point of it, look up the initiation rites of secret societies like the Masons or Skull and Bones that the process is based on

the point is, you're not going to really die, the threats themselves can be real, for example don't grab a gun and put it to your temple thinking it's empty or inject a syringe thinking it's just full of saline

they are going to break you, it's a classic death/rebirth cycle from the ancient mystery schools. the mysticism of the occult aspects reinforces the programming

go along with the narrative, they will make you think you are the Messiah and then the Antichrist, and then back and forth

you have no choice and it's a done deal, no matter how ridiculous the rational part of you will find it, they want your programming to be in control

think of it as a clinical test run of your programming, you're a robot and they want to run diagnostics, that's how they see you
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>>19308191
What should i do regarding initiation?

Should i fight or should i attempt to feign acceptance?

I worry that threads like this are nothing more than a honeypot.

Sufficient technology which the controllers qould undoubtedly possess would likely automatically catologue every digital action and word typed by any victims so they can curate the online experience.

An alternative where they don't curate the online experience doesnt make sense considering that should be easier than the mind control already being done
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>>19308303
though I went through it, I am not an expert, I can only guess and speculate about how it exactly works based on my experience and the experiences of others I learn about

another thing to consider is I don't know what cult/club/ring/subgroup you belong to within the nebulous hierarchy and to what level of importance you are, or myself for that matter

this is a criminal underground with factions within factions, likely with their own techniques and themes, though there is general basic programming scripts

if you are in the system, and to a similar level/within the same or adjacent subgroup as myself, you are definitely being monitored

the level of minutia that was incorporated into my torture was mind-boggling

one of my triggers was the audio file from a Spyro the Dragon game when you breathe fire on a treasure chest and it makes a crystal levitate above it

so random, yet so nostalgic, I couldn't place it at the time and it was maddening

Though it's admittedly hard to trust on an anonymous forum, I can guarantee I did not start this thread as a honeypot

I am not a part of your conditioning, if that is what you are going through

it is good to keep your guard up though, just don't let the paranoia drive you nuts

I think fighting back is the worst idea, but for all I know I didn't fuck up my initiation and everything went completely according to plan, including my resistance

there was never a prize to be won, my ex was going to leave me anyways, this was just to break me and let me know who's running things

I guess the best advice I can give you is to follow your instinct and play the game, because that's what they're trying to understand, something of a blue dye test

another to keep in mind is that you're male, most likely you'll be prepped to take on a handler role, maybe the proper advice for you is to have a backbone and resist to a degree, asserting yourself

my experience was as a subservient
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I did this. I bleached and cut my hair.

Am i going to be famous/powerful?
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>>19306557
>my farthest paternal ancestor was a famous Druid and my farthest maternal ancestor was a midwife/witch

Roleplaying, the post. Name your "famous Druid". The only one named in the historical record was Diviciacus, who lived at the same time as Caesar. Not even the Japanese royal family can trace their history that far back.
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>>19308479
Inca royalty can do it too.
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>>19308428
yes, you are now in the Court of the King in Yellow, marked by your jaundiced locks

wait for CARCOSA

along the shore the cloud waves break
the twin suns sink behind the lake
the shadows lengthen
in CARCOSA

strange is the night where black stars rise
and strange moons circle through the skies
but stranger still is
lost CARCOSA

songs that the Hyades shall sing
where flap the tatters of the King
must die unheard in
dim CARCOSA

song of my soul, my voice is dead
die thou, unsung, as tears unshed
shall dry and die in
lost CARCOSA

Hail Hastur
The Unspeakable One
Assatur
Xastur
H'aaztre
and
Kaiwan

wait ye for the Yellow Sign
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>>19308295
Hmm yes might not try that hypnosis atleast not yet.
My childhood is a huge blur honestly can't remember much except for massive migrains which apparently are from some tyoe of machine that are used for programming...
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>>19308479
Mug Ruith
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>>19308511
I remember being in therapy at age 11 for supposed anger issues. And i would just sit there silent for about 90% of the sessions volunteering nothing.

I remember one session he gave me a chart and i was supposed to write memories from each year of my life and multiple years had nothing he even mentioned my chart was unusually empty but i just couldnt think of anything
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>>19308418
I appreciate everything you've said.

I guess all i can hope for is that a better reality waits for us someday.
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>>19308564
>>19308558
There's justcie out there for it has been done and the responsibles can't hide forever.
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>>19308558
Ouch anon that hit close to home :(
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wow , agreed op.
JFK is on the move in revenge of his lover.
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>>19308510
Wait i shall
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>>19306699
>Everything weird is schizophrenia
When did/x/ become the dumping ground for armchair psychologists?
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>>19308564
>>19308571

tensions within the ranks and foundations of the system have never been higher, years of promises of a formal global takeover so that bloodliners can have their glory in the sun as the recognized elite go unfulfilled

parents knowingly put their children through hell and aren't receiving compensation or desired results

high level victims are taking a stand

Kesha's litigation against her handler may be considered the first bombshell in the breakdown, leading to a full broken masquerade scenario

we are likely to see the factions devolve into complete sectarian conflicts across the board, a bloodbath and scandal after scandal until hopefully an international court of human rights groups begin the proceedings that will eclipse the Nuremberg trials

it will be a mess and the exact truth not likely to come out, but it will be a purge and once again the survivors will recede into the peripheral shadows of obscurity to try and build the system again, century after century

I believe the madness of the witch-hunts in Europe were a precursor to this type of event, targeting mostly the bloodliners at a local level, feeding them to the flames and the nooses to save the royal elites at the top, though they weren't always safe themselves

there's a sort of hivemind to the system, a zeitgeist, the Gnostic idea of the Archons is an accurate if poetic parallel, demons we've created ourselves to rule over us that play on our basest and most primitive desires

the groupthink moves on it's own and like the Great Snake, it's not afraid to eat itself

>>19308558
>>19308577
it's funny how our parents tell it's normal to not remember most of your childhood, that no one does

but then you get older meet new normal people and they have such clear memories in an unquestioned linear order

you realize something is wrong and you wonder why it is that the more you think about it, the more you question what memories you do have and why they stuck
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>>19308741
Yes everything is normal apparently and our nobody has memorys of childhood...Linear order I don't even know her, but yes at this stage im just waiting for something to happen the initation id guess, I also had a guy that was interested in me who also had a handler so can relate alot with this thread it's madness and hard not to think about daily :(
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>>19307824
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>>19308525
Ah, fictional characters, I see.
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>>19308493
The Inca as a political group didn't even exist until the 13th century. The first "King" of the Inca (actually of Cuzco, I'll give you an extra hundred years) - who may be entirely fictional - ruled in the 12th century.
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>>19308988
he is legendary, but my paternal clan claiming direct descent from him undeniably links them to the Druidic tradition and this claim was recognized as legitimate by their peers throughout history

every legend has a kernel of truth

"Mug Ruith" was likely an arcane title passed down son to son, meaning "slave of the wheel"

not to mention that the clan is notorious for their filí, the successors of the Druids who preserved the oral history and genealogies of Ireland

do you really think the Druid's have no modern descendants alive today?
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>>19309074
Not at all. I am suggesting that no one who claims to be descended from a mythical Druid could ever prove that was the case. Do you really think that people don't lie to tie themselves to greatness?
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>>19309105
within the historical context though, the Druidic connection with the clan is accepted, regardless of whether the founder of the lineage is mythical or not

most royal houses can trace their lineage to mythical roots, I can find my way through several lines to a continental water goddess of the fey, the myths inform the character of the families

the importance is the profession not necessarily the person, though his fame does lend itself to the reputation of the Druids and filí within the clan

what matters is that my ancestors thought of themselves as Druidic descendants and this influenced their path of occultism to the modern day
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>>19309190
And thus the claim changes. I am finished with this conversation, liar.
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>>19309201
What a vapid fuck you are, eh? Not only did his claim not change, he explained how the truth of the claim only matters as far as it is believed by those with such interests.
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>>19306420
>eating a lot of cheese and breed feeds gut bacteria which increases lustful thoughts and sexual urges.
Elaborate further? In a healthy person phase 3 of the MMC will practically obliterate most bacterial colonies that form in the small intestine, and the liver will remove most metabolic byproducts during first pass processing. It is only in states of bacterial overgrowth and leaky gut that you have a decent amount of quinones, ammonia, hydrogen sulfide, acetone, etc forming. Though if your diet is very specific and alters antigen expression, like cacao, that can alter thought.
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>>19306707
>Uhhh...yuh...h-have you read the OP? It has schizo written all over it.
The OP is quite coherent. You're just unable to parse it and blaming the writer instead of acknowledging your own limitation.
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>>19306908
>do you think it's possible he genuinely loved me as much as he made me believe he did?
He defiantly loved you, but his programing made him abuse that, not saying give him a chance or anything, but losing you is meant Tobe a traumatic experience for parts of him.
>>19307615
>go to that therapist and tell them everything that's going on, everything. So you can get some help.
Therapist are damage control, not on the victims side. Help is codeword for abuse.
>>19307876
>what does one do, even hypothetically?
If they aren't fucking with you anymore try not spill to many beans and maybe they will continue to leave you alone.
>>19307937
>can't remember it cause of dissociation such fun.
Leave it that way don't scratch the walls.
>>19307984
>I was asleep for a long time and only recently noticed that my reality is coming apart at the seams.
Like a mad man groping in a dark room.
Seek the light to burn away the gloom.
I've lost my mind but my feelings are true.
Everything I do I offer to you.
Now I've found you we could make our own luck.
Devour me first or I shall eat you up.

Come close your eyes, wake yourself from these dreams
Reality is ripping at the seams, ripping at the seams.
>>19308114
>there are Delta wave killer alters in there that protect the programming, a multiple system can create new alters organically as need be,
And this is what i abused tobe left alone, I self replicated the Delta's and reprogrammed them to turn on the masters reusing the suicide alters trigger, they try make me suicide they end up dead, as I've got royal+theta programming instead of mk I could take on an army of delta sleepers and deactivate them without having to shed blood.
>>19308493
So can egyptian/viking/greek royalty, I recognise what gods are my father grandfather aunts and uncles mum and grandma, I've seen gaia incarnated and did a healing on her.
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>>19309190

Tell me about Arthur and the druids.
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>>19309406
>Leave it that way don't scratch the walls.

Well....i'll try too anon thanks.
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>>19309406
>but losing you is meant Tobe a traumatic experience for parts of him.
HOLY SHIT

I had not once considered this

I played a part in HIS programming

that makes complete sense

I was someone who loved him unconditionally, even when he was accused of molesting children (as an adolescent himself) I was still on his side because I understood the man he had shown himself to be to me was a good person

he had issues with feeling loved, none of his previous girlfriends had been particularly passionate towards him, none of them reaching my level of adoration

early on in our relationship, I would tell him my dreams about what I called a *Lite version of him, a shorter weaker and scheming clone of him that would try to convince me he was my boyfriend but I never listened, always waiting for the *Real him to show up

this really caught him off guard and at the time I wondered why he was acting so weird about it, he was probably impressed that some part of me sensed what was going on, his duplicitous nature

he always told me to ignore that impostor and never fall for him

here was this girl who genuinely loved him, not because of programming, and who could differentiate the real him from the false personas

I feel no doubt now that he wanted me, that he really was crushed to have to lose me, tormented by what he had to do to someone precious to him

I was a lesson for him, incredible

I wish I could talk to him, maybe someday

>If they aren't fucking with you anymore try not spill to many beans and maybe they will continue to leave you alone.

that's been the modus operandi since this all happened

>I self replicated the Delta's and reprogrammed them to turn on the masters reusing the suicide alters trigger

I don't think my Delta programming is very strong or well-developed, I'm extremely nonviolent and even when I had opportunity to attack I never really did during the torturing

I think my internal system is designed to activate only self-termination protocols
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>>19307937
That looks like a Julia Gforer drawing. Good shit
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>>19306983
You're off the hook, for now. Just doing my job, you understand that.
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>>19308558
You know what? New anon here, but this has just reminded me that I had to regularly visit speech therapist somewhere around the age of 5. The thing is, I don't remember anything except arranging blocks according to their size once. I mean, I have plenty of memories from that time so I would surely remember something...

Also, I don't remember ever having speech problems. Seriously, i'm like 99% positive i have never had any issues with my speech. I often suspect there's a supressed childhood trauma somewhere in the back of my mind, whenever I smoke some weed or meditate. And I have a bdsm fetish since a very young age while we're at it. Fuck, looks like i'll have to talk with my parents.
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>>19310740
Talking to your parents won't reveal anything, unless you catch them off guard and they let slip what they shouldn't, i also had speech problems and saw a therapist at that age it's common for us.
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