God wants us to suffer and thats why he created earth he is a

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>>19303845

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You're wrong, creation myths are stories people tell/believe.

What do I win?

>>19303845
>God wants us to suffer and thats why he created earth he is a sadist prove me wrong

I know God - and it is no sadist. On the contrary - human sadism seems to severely disturb God.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfMZmKPEKas

>>19303866

Nah. Just stories.

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>>19303845

You're confusing God with the Demiurge/Satan. Also this is a shitty low-effort thread and OP is a fag.

I don't know why God punished Adam and Eve for eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. They wouldn't have even known it was wrong as they didn't have the knowledge. Idk man, I believe like, 80-90% of the bible is just proverbs meant to teach us moral lessons. It may be a proverb I don't understand but if it was literal I think it only pushes towards the demiurge theory, considering no real god would be that blatantly hypocritical and cruel.

>>19303882
>Nah. Just stories.

Took you 2 minutes to respond to my 7 minute video... How could you possibly know what I do or don't know and whether or not I know God?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfG_laZuSMQ

>>19303896
You're confusing the demiurge with something.

The Demiurge is a story.

>>19303908
Cuz you don't. You believe stories.

>>19303845
Theres no progress without obstacles.
So quit being a useless crybaby, and study this Universe.
You will come to realize the True Nature of "God", which is amazing btw.

>>19303929
Amazingly resilient BS.

>>19303845
God doesn't exist, all done. I have proven you Wrong. What do I win?

Scientific method: I am right. Here is why I am right. Fact check me bitch

Theists: I know he is real, I can feel it in my bones. Prove my arbitrary statement wrong.

OP needs to suck a bag of cocks. If god exists that isn't paranormal, but a simple truth of reality. You are on the wrong board my friend.

>>19303845
that album was ok

>>19303918
>Cuz you don't. You believe stories.

I tell you the truth - your error/denial doesn't change it. Doesn't matter if you're a redneck in a trailer denying the truth or the President of the United States denying the truth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raPsmrPNR7w

>>19303845
Alright, so where does love, joy and happiness come from then?

>>19303939
>Amazingly resilient BS.
Yeah well maybe it's not BS if it can hold its strength.

>>19303998
Nah. It's BS. It's super easy to spot for everyone but /x/uckers.

>>19303990
Not a god. Why would you even believe that? Oh right, someone said so and that was good enough for you.

>>19303845
It's a fleeting reality filled with temporary joy and suffering. Pay attention to it, you might learn something.

>>19303845
You're not even close. You live in the past, you choose to do nothing, get pissed and bitch about god. He loves you enough to give you that option

>>19303845
did it ever occur to you that this world we live in is the hell we are told so much about?

we were already damned eternities ago

>>19303845
Stop hitting yourself if you don't like it.

>>19303845
I can't. But that Testament album is awesome, though.

>>19303865
a fedora.

What I don't get is why God had to incarnate as human and sacrifice himself in order to save people from being damned. Couldn't he have just willed it so? Feels like we're not being told the whole story. Like God isn't as all powerful as we've been lead to believe, and other forces are at play.

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>>19303845
Can't prove you right, either.

>>19303845
This is Hell, so you suffer. It's your own fault you're here.

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>>19304317

>>19306054
Part of that is truth, the part about Jesus being 'Christ' and The One is not. For example, Paul called Jesus the Prototokos which I know for sure isn't true.

>>19306054
>I have studied all relgions
>jesus christ is god
Sounds legit to me.

>>19303845
https://youtu.be/kdR_StE6Niw

A seed gets planted. It sprouts. It grows. The plant that bared the seed shall be cut down, for you harvest wheat not thatch

>>19303845
Christian descriptions of hell envision a place full of suffering where you can't interact with God in any possible way. Our world fits this description perfectly.

>>19303845
What if god treats us however we described him in the last life we lived.

>>19303845
If u read book of Adam and Eve.
You'll read the covenant that God and Adam had made before entering this world. It'll shed more light why we are here and what really happen after they bit into the Apple of knowledge

>>19303845

God is an archon.

The Creator is the creator.

Pick the first, enjoy your violent, messed up world.

Pick the second, join enlightened beings throughout the Universe.

>>19303845
He created us, told us what we should do and not do (through religions), and gave us free will, which is the reason why evil exists. If we choose to do whatever we want and let <insert any 7 deadly sin> take the best of us, then it's hell. If we choose to search for the truth and try not to sin, we get a reward

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>>19306903
God is all that is. Archons can't possibly be all of God, because that would imply that non-archons aren't God.

God is the set that contains all sets.

This has the consequence that people masquerading as a person, named God, are also a subsection of all that is. But by the same reasoning, so are people who claim that those masquerading as less than all that is are also a subsection of God.

Does it make sense yet? If it's been defined, it's one step down from divinity, in the direction of that which defines it.

>>19307205
So simple and so true, people wonder why there in the hell they created

>>19307234
Yeah it makes sense, you can't be more God than any other, because we all are in the same sense.

Don't tell that to the megalomaniacs tough.

If we are all pieces of god experiencing and growing itself, then doesn't it stand to reason that god is somewhat of a sick fuck based on this hellish prison planet that we exist on?

>>19303990
so you have something to lose.

>>19303845
God created us because he feeds upon awareness

if he wanted us to suffer he would make it nothing but suffering

thing is tho most people find joy and happiness even tho life sucks

the illness in our domain is complex there are nanites in the air breath wisely the god is complete he is killing for us not us our selfs he wants to protect us in dignity of his true strength we have free will fuck i can turn into anything upgrade my god dna and find god my self

>>19303845
Free willed individuals without omniscience and a perfect sense of morality necessitates a world with suffering. P.S Epicurus is wrong.

The problem isn't the world, or God, its humanity.

>>19303845
Your mom wants you to suffer and thats why she created you she is a sadist prove me wrong

life is created by mother and we have a father too so dont forget him there just as free willed as everyone in the world so you say suffer i do and i know what im going to do life has chaos before order

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>>19307257
>If we are all pieces of god experiencing and growing itself, then doesn't it stand to reason that god is somewhat of a sick fuck based on this hellish prison planet that we exist on?

You expect material/Earthly gifts from the gods rather than serving the gods to seek their favor. Earth has a plague of wicked teachers and the gods never stopped anyone from choosing evil in history.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfG_laZuSMQ

>>19303990
Chemicals produced in the brain.

>>19309189
For the hundred time, love release one chemical that's always present and can be released by almost anything (just check /mlp/).

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>>19303845
Does a tree suffer from the wind bearing down on it? No, it gets stronger. A tree without resistance will wither and die, so spank your damn kids when they misbehave.

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>>19303906
God does not punish Adam and Eve for eating the fruit, rather he is just describing to them the consequences they face as a result of their awareness of good and evil
mainly since they are now aware of their morality, they are cursed to spend the rest of their life actively working to avoid and stall their death in a way that no other animals does

>>19306903

Wrong.

God with a big G is an Aeon.

He is the Aeon of Aeons.

Aeons are Emanations of the One.

God is the Creator of All that Is.

Archons come from the Aeon Sophia. They are the gods with a little g.

The Archons cannot Create, they Manipulate.

The Demiurge is the Chief Archon. And he is not God, but he claims to be. That is why we call him Blind, Ignorant and Jealous.

meh what exactly makes him a sadist what aspects of "earth" and suffering?

what if he had no idea what he was the scope of what would happen?

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The Archons didnt really create Earth like they say.

Earth was formed in a Creation and a Re-creation. We know this because of the Book of the Sons of Fire from the Kolbrin Bible.

The story says that Tiamat was a planet between Mars and Jupiter that was destroyed by Marduk from Nibiru. It became the Asteroid Belt.

But part of Tiamat went closer to the Sun and merged with the Proto Earth called Theia.

The moon of Tiamat called Kingu became our Moon. And another moon called Ceres stayed in the Asteroid Belt where Tiamat used to be.

This is how the gods Manipulate.

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The Archons didnt really create mankind.

They mixed their DNA with an already existing primitive primate humanoid that was emergent out of Nature.

Again, this is not Creation, its Manipulation.

They made us to be a Slave / Worker race. To appease the Revolt of the Igigi / Watchers.

>creates beings with free will
>beings inevitably do some sick shit (which he knew they would do)
>punishes them for exercising their free will

god is a cunt

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xzpb5k

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>>19309421

Suffering is enlightenment

>>19309343
Sup...

Assume you are God or some sort of omnipotent being, all knowing is one thing but you still would want to experience it all. How do you experience it all when you are all? Create the universe with yourself, spreading minute god particles capable of digesting all information which is then received once the 'thing' dies and all particles have reconstituted into you. The next step to 'experience' would be to create creates with thought, then freewill, thus allowing them to make their own decisions in various environments. Developing ideas that you as an omnipotent being 'know' to exist, but may never have considered experiencing yourself without certain conditions.

>>19303845
i love and enjoy existing. I am grateful for life. Each day I fulfill my purpose and move more deeply into truth.

You are choosing a life of suffering and sadism in a world of options. Prove me wrong and more importantly- why?

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>>19303845
Earth is a trail. Only the worthy see paradise, the true dominion of man.The earth we live on is the devil's domain.

>>19304041
How enlightened you sound

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>>19309527
You're half right

>>19303845
>suffering=sadism

>>19303845
And thats wrong?

>>19303845

>want humans to suffer.
>create a realm where heaven can be created by humans

Nice one, God.

Pretty sure the big guy is on our side.

Nb4 "muh widespread pain and suffering"

Nigga that shit was universal before we showed up, give us some damn time.

>>19310669
Without black and white they couldn't be merged to create colour.

Suffering doesnt real