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What does /x/ think of the theory of a lost civilization as proposed by the likes of Graham Hancock, John Anthony West, and Randall Carlson?
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Shit leaves archaeological evidence.
When people learn out to make clay into pots and put the pots in a fire, you find clay pots when you dig up their former habitations.
The current archaeological record shows a pretty linear progression from less advanced stone tools, to more complex stone tools, to ceramics, to copper, to bronze, which is around the time we get writing in most places.
This being said, it is probable that there were urban societies we know little about, but highly improbable that they had any level of technology on par with the bronze age or beyond.
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>>19253218
This is true, but the cataclysm that has been shown to have occurred around ~12,500 years ago could have either: scattered the tools across the globe, most ending up in the seas; or destroyed the tools all together.
I think Graham definitely has something going for him with the notion of questioning the mainstream narrative. Sites like Göbekli Tepe and the recently found village in Canada (oldest found settlement ever) keep supporting the idea there's a plethora of information about human history we know nothing of.
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>>19253233
Why do you think it's younger when we keep finding settlements that imply otherwise?
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>>19253218
Antikytheran mechanism?
Does that show a linear progression of mechanisms?
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>>19253203
any good docs to watch?
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>>19253203
Questioning the mainstream narrative of evolution and our origins is an area of inquiry we need more skepticism on. Sites like Gobekli Tepe and the myriad of peculiar discoveries rippling through China every week bring that up.
Just don't fall for their Egyptian Edgar Cayce's Association for Research and Enlightenment party line. Hancock and Carlson are notorious for attempting to make the facts fit their Rosicrucian-Martinist inspired tradition.
ARE even paid and helped recommend Dr. Zahi Hawass' for his Fulbright scholarship where he pursued his doctorate studies at U-Penn. He even turned on them way before the new Egyptian governments did and they helped finance his education.
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>>19253218
The sea level rise at the end of the last ice age left a lot of what were probably the best sites under some two hundred feet of water. If sea level rose thirty feet from what it is today, most of our largest cities would be uninhabitable, hundred of millions of people would be displaced. If it happened suddenly, half of them would be dead rather than displaced.
The only question is whether the sites were all Stone Age or if some of them were Atlantean.
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The evidence that convinces me...
>The younger dryas, melt water pulse 1A and 1B.
>All religions with flood myths.
>The water erosion on the sphynx.
>The masonry of the great pyramid.
>The size of megaliths is beyond ridiculous.
>The stacking of irregular shaped rocks to razor precision world wide.
>Paracas skulls.
>World wide pyramid structures.
>Giant humans (with countless newspapers to back it up).
>Nuclear reactor in Africa.
>Swastikas world wide.
>Sumerians telling of planet x/nibiru.
>Why is Giza not completely excavated?
>Why are the pyramids in China being covered up?
>Confirmed megalithic structure underwater off coast of Japan.
>Annunaki "pine cones" depictions world wide (including christianity).
>baghdad battery, egyptian light bulb, ancient toy airplanes in the americas.
>That stone carving of an astronaut in the rocket in turkey.
>Pakals tomb cover spaceship.
>Platos discussion of Atlantis including date of melt water pulse 1b.
>Orions belt design of pyramids in egypt, mexico, and china... possibly others too.
>Gobekli tepe and vulture stone pointing towards comet impact for younger dryas.
Just to name a few...
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Also the smoking gun, as in actual SMOKING GUN, is the Piri Reis map.
People always use it to cite the Antarctic coast without ice but that is not the important piece of information...
>THE PIRI REIS MAP HAS ACCURATE LONGITUDE!
This is only possible with accurate time keeping, i.e. clocks. This map was compiled from older, even ancient, maps at the library of Alexandria.
Our civilization did not have clocks, and the ability to even talk about longitude, until 1773. The Piri Reis map was compiled in 1513 from maps that were much older...
Thats it... somebody long ago had a watch, a boat, and made a map of Earth that is as accurate as ours are today... end of story...
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>>19254079
Swastika is the religious hindu symbol of prosperity. We paint it practically everything religious. It's pretty much a good luck charm of sort.
Hitler was interested in Sanskrit texts,so it isn't surprising that he adopted the symbol but changed it a bit.
That's one thing you can cross of your retarded list.
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>>19254206
your
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>>19254249
just a cool shape.
/discussion
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there are literally no perfect squares in earth, however nowadays we see square shapes in designs everywhere. there is no magic spookiness from the ancient hindu, it's just a cool shape, my man.
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>>19254253
apparently, the swastika has to do with the rotation of the big dipper around the north star... see pic related...
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If you actually knew what archaeological digs /research are really like, you would not be surprised that we know shit about shit about our past.
there is literally no other scientific field that is so full of unbacked hypotheses and falsified data.
The amount of information ignored or purposefully suppressed is staggering.
not even joking.
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>>19254253
lol... also found this... :)
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>>19254302
hardly even a swastika lol you're proving my point. there are a gazillion shapes used in art. maybe they got it from the stars (which makes sense), but it's not anything paranormal.
i do see a point to there being plenty of civilizations we haven't made heads or tails of at all for various reasons, but it's much more of a mystery thing than a paranormal thing.
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the swastika is also a very simple shape. if it were more complicated and more specific, i'd see your point, but it's literally a few crossed sticks. don't be an asshat.
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>>19254302
>mfw ancient civilizations foresaw the human centipede
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SHOUT OUT MYSELF FOR NOT SEEING THE EDGES OF THAT AND REALIZING IT'S JUST A BUNCH OF PEOPLE EATING EACH OTHER'S ASSES. WOW. I'M A HUMORLESS FUCK.
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>>19253203
Most certainly Hancock is right to some degree, I wouldn't go as far as to say there were civilisations more advanced than Rome in ancient times as he has alluded to.
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>>19254315
you are about as dense as they come bruh... i posted this for the lulz only...
Who the fuck is talking about paranormal anything?
What the fuck are you even on bro?
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>>19254322
the swastika is just a bunch of crossed sticks... a pyramid is just the most natural structure to make... atlantis, aztlan, aztalan, etc. aren't derived from the same language, its just a coincidence bro...
dont worry bae, hes just a friend...
>go back to sleep...
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>>19254466
digits speak for themselves...
the most hard evidence I have heard of relating to how advanced an ancient civilization may have been comes from giants from the americas buried with copper tools... so, some sort of metal working, mining, etc...
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>>19254243
Is that Loss?
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>>19253203
graham hancock is really really good at making shit up to support his claims.
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i stand by them pretty strongly
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>>19254633
Honestly a pyramid isn't even that complex, it's most likely a result from lack of technology to build a vertical building like today's skyscrapers. All they are is steps that are added on to each other until each side meets each other
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>>19254735
kek... try and find a construction company that can build the great pyramid today... good luck bruh... :)
youre like a light snack... an intellectual game of hopscotch... slightly entertaining yet ultimately trivial... by all means please keep going... :)
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>>19253203
People will continue to think they have it all figured out. Then places like Gobekli Tepe will continue to be found.
Now, the real question - and this is the big one...
Was there anything organized in terms of civilization prior to the younger dryas?
modern humans were around, but what were they doing? And would we ever be able to find a shred of evidence after a 1000 ft. high glacier scrubbed it away followed by floods?
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>>19254782
>youre like a light snack... an intellectual game of hopscotch... slightly entertaining yet ultimately trivial... by all means please keep going... :)
hi i don't frequent /x/ often but this post was extra autistic so i thought I'd pop in to let you know!
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>>19254782
Levels of autism unthought of before.
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>>19255230
>>19255436
I have yet to receive a finer compliment...
>*tips fedora...
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>>19254782
>try and find a construction company that can build the great pyramid today
They improved on the design for Vegas. Lots of interior space, elevators, even some gaming tables if that's your thing.
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>>19255092
>Was there anything organized in terms of civilization prior to the younger dryas?
This is, what I think, one of the most important lines of attack. Commencing idea dump...
>Blue eyes such as in >>19254710 Why? we know that blue eyes historically comes from a very small group of people historically. This may leave a genetic trial to examine. And as the post shows, there has been numerous accounts of "blue eyed Aryans" that brought "civilization" to various peoples through out the ancient world.
>The fact there are pyramids worldwide is one thing, but I am most intrigued by the architecture... The perfectly fit stacking (without mortar) of huge/megalithic rocks at sites throughout the world to me is indicative of a common technology. (pic related)
>The swastikas is also interesting... I can understand that multiple cultures would develop some fascination with celestial bodies but the fact that they all look at the same phenomena (rotation of dipper) seems like something was in common... a similar thing applies to the zodiac...
I think this is a good way to think about things... what do we see in common world wide that may be more than coincidences...
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>>19254782
here you go, a pyramid from the ancient city of Las Vegas
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>>19255564
Won't last 20 years without upkeep
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>>19255492
>>19255564
LOL... what are you guys bots or something???
Making a building with steel beams that is essentially hollow and will only last 100 years is significantly different from making a building out of megalithic rock that is that still baffles archaeologists, architects, and scientists to this day thousands of years after construction...
I see you have chosen to use a pedantic argument now... If you continue to struggle in your understanding you need but ask... :)
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>>19255619
>Making a building with steel beams that is essentially hollow and will only last 100 years is significantly different from making a building out of megalithic rock
You're right. Steel is faster, cheaper, tkaes less labor, and provides a MUCH more useful building. There is literally no reason whatsoever to build like people did in the Bronze Age.
>that still baffles archaeologists, architects, and scientists to this day thousands of years after construction...
It's not baffling at all. It has multiple hypotheses that could all be correct. The only question is whether we can find evidence to accept one hypothesis over the others.
>a pedantic argument
Quote what I said that is overly concerned with minute details. You said no one could build a pyramid. I and another anon both recognized this is easily done. YOU are the one trying to be pedantic and say what you "really meant" was a modern company building a pyramid with giant stone slabs.
Which again could EASILY be done, but there is literally no reason to.
Now answer this - if these ancient architects were so much better than our contemporary builders - why didn't they create buildings with more open space? Why didn't they use vaulted ceilings or arches? You want to say modern companies couldn't recreate their buildings - show me a single instance of them recreating any building we make today.'
How about a cantilever? Show me where the Egyptians with their mystic powers figured out how to extend things beyond their base.
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>>19255669
>There is literally no reason whatsoever to build like people did in the Bronze Age.
There is no evidence they were constructed in the bronze age. Moreover, the most important aspect of them is that they are STILL standing. There is nothing that we have built, other than Mt. Rushmore, that will survive thousands of years.
>It's not baffling at all. It has multiple hypotheses that could all be correct.
False.
>You said no one could build a pyramid.
LOL... die in a fire... NOBODY can build the great pyramid of giza without an LHC level of technology... The shape of the pyramid is irrelevant to the difficulty in building... comparing it to a casino is nothing short of retarded.
>if these ancient architects were so much better than our contemporary builders - why didn't they create buildings with more open space?
Why are you operating under the assumption that they are buildings? Do you think the pyramid is a tomb like a pleb? Do you think it was a casino, an office space, a hotel?
>You want to say modern companies couldn't recreate their buildings - show me a single instance of them recreating any building we make today.'
The entire giza site is filled with "normal buildings" that we see today.. they are made out of stone which is why you still see them and if they made them out of anything we use today they would no longer be here...
>Show me where the Egyptians with their mystic powers figured out how to extend things beyond their base.
Again you fucking pleb... there is no god damn evidence the great pyramids (and sphynx) where built by the egyptians... every other pyramid on site, which we know were built by the dynastic egyptians, is literally shit tier compared to the great pyramids... the fucking block size isn't even the same... and that phenomena extends to the americas too (megaliths with garbage tier brick sized structures next to it)
Next...
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>>19255669
that's right not primitive at all but highly advanced
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>>19255669
all we do today is drill a hole into bedrock and stick dynamite into it.
you're a fucking idiot
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>>19255756
Dude, modern architects don't care about buildings standing 3,000 years from now, if they wanted to design a structure like that they would, it's not practical today, and their sizes weren't practical when they were built. Get off the pyramid's dick
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>>19255756
>Moreover, the most important aspect of them is that they are STILL standing.
Are you expecting a pyramid to fall over?
>There is nothing that we have built, other than Mt. Rushmore, that will survive thousands of years.
So? No one is trying to build things that will last for thousands of years. There's no reason.
>False.
Wrong.
>NOBODY can build the great pyramid of giza without an LHC level of technology
False.
>Why are you operating under the assumption that they are buildings?
Because they fit the definition of a building. No matter what else your crazy imaginings come up with - they are buildings.
>Do you think the pyramid is a tomb like a pleb? Do you think it was a casino, an office space, a hotel?
I haven't made any assertions or inquiries into their purpose.
>there is no god damn evidence the great pyramids (and sphynx) where built by the egyptians
Except literally everything we find there.
>>19255788
>>19255809
You haven't shown me where these mystical ancient builders have shown ANY knowledge of construction beyond what is already understood to be available. How about flying buttresses? They have any of those?
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A plausible theory on how the Pyramids were built. Not magic. Not aliens. Just very very smart people living a long time ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1y8N0ePuF8
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>>19255824
a flying buttress is made of segmented pieces of stone weighing less than a ton.
the tolerances in the the sarapeum in saqqara and the coffer in the king's chamber are 2 ten thousandths of an inch, out of a single hundred ton block.
it's not the flintstones with rough hewn blocks, the great pyramid is a mathematical integer of the earth capable of vibrating at a fundamental frequency of the earth's frequency
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>>19255839
Yes, you've already shown you have no understanding of architectural principles. Just watch the video.
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>>19255839
*at a harmonic frequency of the earths fundamental frequency
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>>19255854
they used a technique dunn characterizes as impact ultrasonic machining. ancients used antigravitics and human voice, sound with running water to cut lift and shape those stones. you heard it from me first.
*teleports away
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There is nothing new under the sun
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>>19255824
aaaand here we go...
>Are you expecting a pyramid to fall over?
you can diminish it all you want but they are still standing and no other building created ever since can match it. Moreover, that is exactly the point... it is still fucking standing and it was the largest building on earth since the dawn of civilization...
>So? No one is trying to build things that will last for thousands of years. There's no reason.
Nigger, kill yourself now. there is no reason to go on living... dont have kids, dont make any great works, dont make a mark on this earth, there is literally no reason... pleb...
>Wrong.
False.
>False.
LOL... Building an 8 sided object with blocks that weigh as much as cars with modern day laser precision without mortar with sticks and stones... get fucked...
This entire response:
>Why are you operating under the assumption that they are buildings?
Because they fit the definition of a building. No matter what else your crazy imaginings come up with - they are buildings.
>Do you think the pyramid is a tomb like a pleb? Do you think it was a casino, an office space, a hotel?
I haven't made any assertions or inquiries into their purpose.
do you even listen to yourself...
>Except literally everything we find there.
Listen fuck stick... the ONLY mention of any of this shit is a fucking heiroglyph of cheop ordering the reparation of the sphynx... hence the shitty little bricks all over it... moreover explain the water damage... again, get fucked... pic related pleb...
>How about flying buttresses? They have any of those?
thousands of years later... get fucked pleb
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>>19255863
Did they also ride huge sandworms and fold space?
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>>19255839
>a flying buttress is made of segmented pieces of stone weighing less than a ton.
>the tolerances in the the sarapeum in saqqara and the coffer in the king's chamber are 2 ten thousandths of an inch, out of a single hundred ton block.
this...
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>>19255863
To hear it from you first, you'd have to stop parroting Chariots of the Gods and other wackjob books that misrepresent what they don't outright lie about.
Here's an article on the wet sand theory, and a fresco from the tomb of Djehutihotep.
https://phys.org/news/2014-04-ancient-egyptians-pyramid-stones-sand.html
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>>19255940
>>19255940
tell me of your home world usul
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>>19254710
AM I TO BELIEVE THAT EACH OF THESE EARTH CIVILIZATIONS WERE INHABITED BY HUMANS?
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>>19255924
>you can diminish it all you want but they are still standing
I'm not diminishing them. I'm diminishing your already minuscule intellect.
>no other building created ever since can match it
Match what? What are you comparing? Does it also taste more like regular Dr. Pepper?
>it was the largest building
>Why are you operating under the assumption that they are buildings? Do you think the pyramid is a tomb like a pleb? Do you think it was a casino, an office space, a hotel?
>lots of bluster an failed attempts to insult
Waiting for an argument. I'm sure you'll deliver.
>thousands of years later
That's my point. They weren't more advanced than the architects thousands of years later. They did the best they could with what they had and they made an impressive building. But they didn't use magic and they didn't get help from aliens.
They were just smarter than you.
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>>19255960
interesting... any hieroglyphs like that related to the pyramids?
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>>19255980
Not necessarily homo sapien sapiens...
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>>19255986
i'll bet if i karate chopped you in the dick you would believe in highly advanced ancient lost civilizations
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>>19255940
sand no. in fact the whole bu wizzer complex wouldve been an archipelago with lush verdant tributaries from the great mother who fertilizes the land.
fold space perhaps, since the indigenous and old testament make reference to the neters as landing pads for ancient giants. and could they not have been giants of the mind?
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>>19255986
>I'm not diminishing them. I'm diminishing your already minuscule intellect.
good so you agree that no other creation by man even compares to them.. :)
>Match what? What are you comparing? Does it also taste more like regular Dr. Pepper?
Yes, no other manmade creation on earth matches the great pyramids other than the space shuttle and lhc... and dr. pepper is clearly better cause texas...
>Waiting for an argument. I'm sure you'll deliver.
delivery: it was the largest building in the entire history of mankind until the 1900's.
>That's my point. They weren't more advanced than the architects thousands of years later. They did the best they could with what they had and they made an impressive building. But they didn't use magic and they didn't get help from aliens.
they did better than anybody could for thousands of years... our civilization only recently became able of creating the great pyramids and even now to do it would be nothing more than a pain in the ass...
>They were just smarter than you.
thats the point.
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>>19256040
that's right the great pyramid has tolerances that opticians today would be hard pressed to match.
we do know that ancient machine sawing was so fast, that the error could be made before the condition could be corrected. king's chamber coffer, luxor indicate undercutting and sharp cusps detected where 2 radii intersected.
sound my friend. sound to alter the physics and soften stone before cutting it. drawing a line out in 3d like in mri, but all in the mind, in toto.
the indigenous call it a spinner which shoots human voice into a crystal mirror and back into sinusoidal waves called wells. in these wells gravity does not exist. demonstrated by acoustic engineer tom danley in 1992,
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>>19255945
not bad for being 26 000 years old. hey are those 200 ton blocks fused together or is it elmers
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>>19256040
just a random lurker
dropping by to say that you sound like giant douchebag :)
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>>19256086
It's the other anon who sounds like a douchebag mate
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>>19256040
>good so you agree that no other creation by man even compares to them.. :)
No.
>matches
Matches WHAT? OK fine - LOTS of buildings match the Pyramids because they're all made out of limestone. LOTS of buildings exceed the beauty of the pyramids. LOTS of buildings exceed the complexity of the pyramids. LOTS of buildings exceed the height of the pyramids. There are buildings that are larger, more spacious, more architecurally advanced...
If you don't define what you are comparing, then your comparison is pointless.
>dr. pepper is clearly better
The point being what I said is USELESS because I never said what I am comparing it to. Do you think the pyramids taste more like regular Dr Pepper...then actual regular Dr Pepper?
>it was the largest building in the entire history of mankind until the 1900's
This only shows no one was stupid enough to build something so uselessly huge until the Egyptians, and no one was that dumb again until a building that size was actually needed.
>they did better than anybody could
Bigger =/= better.
>our civilization only recently became able of creating the great pyramids
Wrong.
>even now to do it would be nothing more than a pain in the ass...
Exactly. Why would ANYONE want to when there are BETTER ways?
>They were just smarter than you.
>thats the point.
I know you have trouble understanding, but this was not a rhetorical you. I meant you specifically, not the architects of today. Today we are MUCH smarter and better than the Egyptians at building things. The Egyptians were smarter than YOU.
>>19256091
No u.
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>>19255945
those are 50 ton blocks with precise compound angels on adjoined faces with deviations only 2/100 to two ten thousandths of an inch designed with every dimensional feature as a resonant chamber to amplify the acoustic properties within the king's chamber.
they were splitting the atom using sound and two types of running water, masculine and feminine coming from the western desert and urnile in a 25 mile gridline connected underground complex resembling an arterial system with ganglia
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>>19256065
you know, i used to think these types of arguments were horseshit...
in case people dont know already, i have a phd in physics, and the idea to move, manipulate, cut, carry, etc big ass things is actually doable...
You are correct about the tolerances, precision, etc....
More on physics, the type of shit i work on is very similar to "the creation an manipulation of sound waves to do work on a system". the only difference is i dont use sound... i will leave it at that...
>the indigenous call it a spinner which shoots human voice into a crystal mirror and back into sinusoidal waves called wells. in these wells gravity does not exist. demonstrated by acoustic engineer tom danley in 1992,
I humbly request you explain more...
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>>19256099
>>19256099
ra schwaller delubicz commented on the pyramids in 89 i believe, that the great pyramid is more accurately an 8 sided star tetrahedron with its walls recessed to created 4 different frequencies of sound. particularly f sharp
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>>19253668
I like how no one responded to this. People never respond to the most interesting and valid posts.
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>>19256099
the spinner iitself was discovered by british egyptologist walter bryan emery in the sarapeum. made of a volcanic stone called shist, 3 lips and a centered device made to spin at an ultrasonic frequency.
thats why all your video games are zombie apocalypse. they shut down half life 3 and any film or future that deals with antigravitics, it's surpresesed tech
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>>19253203
You're all morons, you can't spell and you don't know what you're talking about. You're a bunch of fucking Trumpfags.
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>>19253668
no linear stair step evolution is an academic paradigm. knowledge has been lost and what preserved it was legacies.
that particular machine found in greece i believe is a remnant from atlantis. the atlanteans were losing their civilization. i think they were one of the origin 42 tribes that build all the neters during our golden age
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>>19254239
>>19254243
>>19254249
There are also crosses worldwide. Why? They're simple figures to create. Also they have a deep symbolic meaning --- the symmetry of them suggesting the balance of opposing forces, the four corners suggesting the "four corners" of the world (another motif commonly occurring in past religions, since forward, backwards, left and right are the most immediately recognizable directions on what seems to be a plane surface), the way that it goes "around", branching towards itself, suggesting an eternal wheel/cycle. Otherwise, good stuff in your post though >>19254079
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>>19253203
human intelligence is not said to have increased dramatically in the last 20 000 years, what has increased is human knowledge.
i have no doubt if fuckers had more time on their hands 20 000 ( instead of hunting and gathering everyday just to survive) years ago they could easily start building and working out shit.
Globeke tepe, is also around the ares of the first trading civilisations, i cant remember exactly but like that area is also said to be one of the first to have mastered agriculture and that is was rich in resources, ect.
Trading helps different groups increase knowledge, and that knowledge helps advance the collective civilisations
Globeke Tepe is an example of this sort of process happening year before it happened in other places
Graham hancock is correct in his lost civilisation theory, however his possible not to the extend he proposes.
>humans are smart>humans make life easier for themselves>humans get more time to work things out and build>humans get more time to travel>humans get more shared information and knowledge from travelling and trading>humans use knowledge and information to help build and work out more things
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>>19253203
Yea there was one of high technology, Atlantis. They hit their technology boom about 13,000 B.C. We use crystals for a few things, like when we need a resonance circuit but they really took it far. They tech-tree'd differently than we did if you can imagine it.
They could essentially detect and manipulate influx of energy from the pineal area or sixth chakra. This is spirit or divine energy and was used to create life.
There was some dissent amongst different groups in Atlantis during these years concerning the use of such a power. A civil war began around 9,000 B.C. I don't know the exact nature of the weapons that were used but many people were absolutely obliterated. A couple of hundred years later a final war broke out and Atlantis was destroyed and swallowed up by the ocean.
The survivors settled in a few different regions of the world and disseminated what information they could to the nomadic peoples they found. One of those sites is Gobekli Tepe in Turkey.
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>>19256158
the nagamaya came from the pleiades to four corners of the earth. the mayans called the the tribe that came from across the water. they transmitted culture to the ancients. interesting that the dynastics worshipped not gods and kings, but our ancestors from the stars. during the silver age particularly the star sirius.
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>>19256094
>Bruh, it took MILLENNIA to get to the level of architecture to build things like the pyramids...
>Matches WHAT? OK fine - LOTS of buildings match the Pyramids because they're all made out of limestone. LOTS of buildings exceed the beauty of the pyramids. LOTS of buildings exceed the complexity of the pyramids. LOTS of buildings exceed the height of the pyramids. There are buildings that are larger, more spacious, more architecurally advanced...
If you don't define what you are comparing, then your comparison is pointless.
Fair enough... its not the size, its not the shape, its not even the age... what I am explicitely claiming is that the precision of construction, the precision in consideration of the weight of the blocks, the precision considering the lack of mortar, the precision considering the height, the precision of the astronomical components (8 sided + north south alignment) and all of this... in short the great pyramid stretches the imagination based on the size and the weight of the individual blocks, but the PRECISION is on the order of gps-laser guidance... that is NOT possible with sticks and stones... all of your arguments are 100% correct in regards to the other pyramids of giza, but absolutely not the great pyramids... that is the point, it is the precision and weight of the construction...
>dr. pepper
dr. pepper is better cause fuck you I am from texas.
>This only shows no one was stupid enough to build something so uselessly huge until the Egyptians, and no one was that dumb again until a building that size was actually needed.
this is the wrong way to think about things... people build big shit cause fuck you "i was here".... the problem is "the engineering of the giza site was not reproducible until now"... it was smoking gun out of place advanced for its time...
>Bigger =/= better.
as stated above, it was the precision and weight of the stones... the size is impressive but its the trade craft...
my space is running out...
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>>19256094
>our civilization only recently became able of creating the great pyramids
Wrong.
this is true... based on the arguments on precision...
>Exactly. Why would ANYONE want to when there are BETTER ways?
again, it is the technological capability that matters... can you fuck or not???
I know you have trouble understanding, but this was not a rhetorical you. I meant you specifically, not the architects of today. Today we are MUCH smarter and better than the Egyptians at building things. The Egyptians were smarter than YOU.
the egyptians may or may not have been smarter than me... what i do know is i have a hard earned phd... do you?
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>>19256198
>the precision of construction
Then you're clearly wrong. Plenty of buildings match the precision of the Giza Pyramids, even when considering the use of megaliths.
>that is NOT possible with sticks and stones
You're wrong. Evidence: THE FUCKING PYRAMIDS AT GIZA.
>dr. pepper is better cause fuck you I am from texas.
This is one of your better arguments. And I'm not praising this.
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>>19256174
right i think the atlanteans originally date back to the khemetians, which date back to the stars, but that the celts, actually come from the atlanteans, either the gauls or not.
atlaneans were probably powering their entire city with a single crystal inside a giant dome.
they were a different tech tree in fashion too, women may have been bare breasted. they had advanced metallurgy too, the island was made of a reddish stone immune to salt water erosion.
they probably depended on people with natural gifts in the senses, whether it was psychic or reading earth waves
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>>19256119
antikytheran mechanism is quite interesting indeed... I have been meaning to learn more about it... I don't think its accurate to say that it is shows a linear progress of mechanisms though... it is a definitely interesting artifact though...
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>>19256120
I will look into this... it sounds like something i may have experience in... I imagine you are talking about pic related... I have some ideas about this...
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>>19256228
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>>19256135
atlantis is very interesting to me...
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>>19256252
that's the one, they were discovered in a cache in 1936 tossed in haphazardly with 10,000 other items
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>>19256134
you are god damn right.
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>>19256158
fair enough... :)
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>>19255924
>largest.
No its the highest pyramid. The largest pyramid by volume is in cholula puebla mexico . Most of it is still buried and a church was built a top 500 years ago.
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>>19256269
same. i look around at all the pettiness corruption and greed and wish i was living in a crystal utopia with no health problems, bathed in a healing ultrasonic radiation living for hundreds of years like the old patriarchs
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>>19256284
the bosnian sun pyramid is larger in volume too i believe. but that whole giza complex and the sphinx herself was the input for atomic hydrogen emission in outer space i believe. the sphinx, she not only floods and fertilizes, but she holds the incoming energy of the planet, and it is output through maui
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>>19256262
Yes, the Egyptians were very good, but the Bolivians were better.
>In assembling the walls of Pumapunku, each stone was finely cut to interlock with the surrounding stones. The blocks were fit together like a puzzle, forming load-bearing joints without the use of mortar. One common engineering technique involves cutting the top of the lower stone at a certain angle, and placing another stone on top of it which was cut at the same angle.[4] The precision with which these angles have been utilized to create flush joints is indicative of a highly sophisticated knowledge of stone-cutting and a thorough understanding of descriptive geometry.[6] Many of the joints are so precise that not even a razor blade will fit between the stones.
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>>19256168
maybe... i currently find the value in gobekli tepe, among other things, as the smoking gun for the younger dryas impact based of the vulture stone... i can see understand his argument on the "passing of knowledge" but I think we should wait until the entire site is excavated until we know more...
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>>19256306
good notes, thank you.
the ancient neters seen worldwide were build of a single mind and culture, but pumapunku i forget was rumored to have been built overnight. earth is a waystation for many people coming from many different star systems.
those andesite walls in bolivia are beyond earthquake proof.
and i say people because people are alike all over. pleiadians have documented over 10 million human planets in this galaxy alone
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>>19256329
You can lead a horse to water but you can't stop the horse from shoving it's entire head up its own ass.
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>>19256306
john anthony west calls the corner cuts articulating joints that induce a paramagnetic flow through the stone.
there is a 300 ft shaft in the great pyramid with precise compound angles on adjoined faces that goes straight through limestone bedrock with gun barrel accuracy
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>>19256342
>precise compound angles
>gun barrel accuracy
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>>19256228
>Then you're clearly wrong. Plenty of buildings match the precision of the Giza Pyramids, even when considering the use of megaliths.
dude... there are other megalithic sites and they are all at "what the fuck" tier in terms of the precision of their construction... balbeck, easter island, puma punku... there are MANY... and these have megalithic precision that would take a modern civilization to recreate, at great cost...
>You're wrong. Evidence: THE FUCKING PYRAMIDS AT GIZA.
again, the great pyramids CAN NOT be made with sticks and stones... to put i frankly, in order to make an object of "x" precision, you need a tool with greater than x precision... you can not make the great pyramids precision with sticks and stones... laser precision bruh....
>This is one of your better arguments. And I'm not praising this.
your god damn right... cause texas... :)
the pyramids are literally "we wuz here" what the fuck tier precision...
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>>19256347
there's probably a thousand miles of those man sized tunnels running under the giza complex.
do you propose dolorite balls and copper chisels, rating 4 on moh's hardness drilled through that limestone, which averages 7 depending on depth
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During the last ice age, most of the the south china sea was hundreds of feet above sea level...it's called the Sundaland Shelf.
If there was an ice age civilization (protip: there was), it's there, 100 feet underwater, where nobody's looking.
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>>19256363
same with greece, turkey, egypt, japan, and i bet you antarctica
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>>19256284
good point... what i also like about the pyramids in mexico, specifically at teotihuacan, is the lay out which matches giza, china, and orions belt... i dont know how much to read into that but it definitely activates my almonds...
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>>19256340
thats probably a lot funnier liquored up
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>>19256301
do you know about this "pools of mercury" business at the bosnian pyramids?
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>>19256353
>there are other megalithic sites and they are all at "what the fuck" tier in terms of the precision of their construction
Yes, because people at that time were building with megaliths. It took a lot of time an energy and some of the brightest minds they had.
>megalithic precision that would take a modern civilization to recreate, at great cost
Yes. It would cost a lot and BE POINTLESS - so we don't do it. It cost EVEN MORE back then, and a LOT more time and labor to build, but they didn't think it was pointless.
>the great pyramids CAN NOT be made with sticks and stones
Yes they can. They were.
>>19256354
>there's probably a thousand miles of those man sized tunnels running under the giza complex
That is a picture of the well shaft in the great pyramid.
>rating 4 on moh's hardness drilled through that limestone
http://pohakufab.com/good-to-know/mohs-scale-of-hardness/
>3 Calcite Very easily scratched with a knife and/or a copper coin. This is where most Marbles, LIMESTONES, travertines, rate.
>>19256380
Seeing a horse shove its head up its own ass is NEVER funny.
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>>19256306
preach... this, i think, is a very important piece to the puzzle...
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>>19256384
go ahead
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>>19256340
I always say, "you can lead a horse to water but you cant make it think..."
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>>19256390
The point being that you said there was nothing in the world to match the precision of the Giza Pyramids when you can clearly see the precision was matched in several sites around the world.
(Really CAPTCHA? feuerwehrzufahrt??? You made me type out German complex words?!?)
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>>19256347
lol... look at this picture of a tunnel... it totally destroys your whole argument...
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>>19255924
>you can diminish it all you want but they are still standing and no other building created ever since can match it. Moreover, that is exactly the point... it is still fucking standing and it was the largest building on earth since the dawn of civilization...
They would be even more impressive if people didn't strip the outer limestone casing to create lime. How they look today is not from weathering.
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>>19256405
When the argument is "this tunnel is so precise we could NEVER do it with today's tech" then yes - all it takes is a pic of the tunnel.
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>>19256371
and the azores, cuba, and doggerland...
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>>19256387
calcite, is not nummulite limestone bedrock my friend. granite. 8 on moh's. the academic egyptologist theory contains numerous flaws and unsubstantiated data that supports critical elements on which the theory is built. any academic mores would dictate the theory must either be thrown out or revised.
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>>19256371
also ANTARCTICA... god damn that place gets me all worked up... i hope we learn more soon...
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>>19256412
Granite is not limestone. They aren't even the same type of stone. Granite is igneous, limestone is sedimentary. Try again, kiddo.
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>>19254118
How can you tell the map is accurate if you don't know what it's a map of?
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>>19256417
i wonder if there is top soil on that pyramid, frozen over or if it's a mountain drilled off at relatively contoured angles.
in abu rouash there is a blown out pyramid encased in a hillside. it is drilled from within, 1/3 submerged in water. when the gridline blow up, a mouth in the site exploded out.
mesas which are perfectly flattened may be explained by highly advanced ancient toolkits
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>>19256387
>Yes, because people at that time were building with megaliths. It took a lot of time an energy and some of the brightest minds they had.
bright minds aside... as i said before, they did not have the equipment to make the pyramids with the precision they had...
>Yes. It would cost a lot and BE POINTLESS - so we don't do it. It cost EVEN MORE back then, and a LOT more time and labor to build, but they didn't think it was pointless.
The point is that what we know about them, they absolutely did not have the capability to do it... we can now, and it would be pointless (other than for boasting)... the precision does not match their skill set nor capability...
>Yes they can. They were.
no they absolutely can not... the great pyramids might as well be a modern day mercedes... and even that isn't as precise... you think the pyramid is a big ass block, but it is a fucking nightmare of precision...
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>>19256391
sorry, didnt mean to imply, I was asking...
I have heard of weird shit like indiana jones with boobie traps and other weird shit at these pyramids...
One thing i have heard... and i am merely reporting rumors, is that ancient "flying machines" i.e. ufos, vimanas, or other weird shit used mercury with cinnabar to fly...
also the big pyramid in china had "rivers of mercury" which supposedly made a "perpetual river" in a map made to honor the tomb of the chinese emperor that built the great wall and unified china...
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>>19256443
>as i said before, they did not have the equipment to make the pyramids with the precision they had...
Doesn't matter how many times you say it. It is clearly not true. Because they made the pyramids with the tools available to the precision we see now.
>The point is that what we know about them, they absolutely did not have the capability to do it
Untrue. YOU think they didn't have the capability, while people that actually research and study are saying just the opposite.
>no they absolutely can not
Keep denying what they clearly did.
>you think the pyramid is a big ass block
No.
>it is a fucking nightmare of precision
One that took tens of thousands of laborers over a decade to complete. All with Bronze Age tools and know-how.
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>>19256404
yes yes yes yes yes... there was definitely something going on back then... my point is not "EGYPT", my point is ancient advanced civilizations and their architecture is the "yo, i was here homie"... thats the point... I was here!
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>>19256406
beautiful! and now this... our history is being stolen from us...
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>>19256469
that tomb was dedicated to the first chinese emperor who rode in on a dragon i believe. i wouldnt be surprised if the original great wall was built with sound and a small team than the taskmasker theory that was intimated to us.
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>>19256481
>my point is not "EGYPT"
That was EXACTLY your point. Are you lying or can you not remember further back than half an hour?
>NOBODY can build the great pyramid of giza without an LHC level of technology
>no other building created ever since can match it
>try and find a construction company that can build the great pyramid today
>in short the great pyramid stretches the imagination based on the size and the weight of the individual blocks, but the PRECISION is on the order of gps-laser guidance
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>>19256407
that pedantry is tiresome... let me find a pic of a tunnel at giza that disagrees with the op... literally fucking die masturbating to a dictionary you pedant...
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>>19256479
your theory literally rests on bronze to granite
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>>19256427
the claim that it contains the coast of antarctica is debatable... the relative distance between, e.g. spain and the americas, and relative size, etc... necessitates a knowledge of longitude and that is where the claim lies... The map is very obviously western europe and the eastern americas... where people make the OMG argument is typically over the supposed "antarctica" portion, which I actually disagree with... it is the longititude, and consequently relative scale, that is absolutely not explainable without prior knowledge...
This is "LITERALLY" as wtf as finding a detailed map of moon (topography etc. down to the meter) before telescopes and rockets were invented... they play up the antarctica, but the longitude is FUCKING nasa tier what the fuck for that era...
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well we do know that the sphinx was built by the antediluvian Stygians
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>>19256442
i have always been fascinated by those gouge marks... it is almost like they had the tech to literally "scoop" out rock... spoopy...
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>>19256505
That's twice now. You don't know what pedantry means. You'd think one obssessed with precision would know the meaning to pedant. Oh well.
>>19256509
It's not a theory. That humans built the structure with the tools available is the null hypothesis. Do you know what a null hypothesis is?
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>>19256533
the sphinx is way older than the antediluvians my friend
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>>19256538
so why are talking about a null hypothesis, because you're irrelevant
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>>19256546
Next time you'll look more honorable if you just say you don't know what something is.
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>>19256479
that's right lenny with know-how
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>>19255809
>stick dynamite into it
Which the Egyptians didn't have because they weren't as advanced.
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>>19254302
There's a several thousand year old swastika petroglyph carved into rock about 5 miles from my house here in Britain.
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>>19256603
wilmaa!!!
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>>19256603
i got your fruity pebbles barney
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Advanced civilizations used Lewis Blacks "build a big fuckin thing!" Theory of bringing economic growth to their region. They decided to put people to work building something they were sort of good at like terracotta warriors or pyramids or giant heads. The more they made the better they got like creating new versions of a phone. Soon building these big fucking things made others come to see the big fucking things and there were big fucking thing stores and people became big fuckin thing specialists until one day barbarians that focused on conquering instead of building easily take over these areas and murder the specialists, effectively removing a civilization from existance. So its most certain that there were advanced civilizations, but the territorial and destructive nature of humanity has always killed off 90% of the worlds accumulated knowledge. It's evident when you look at moments in history where winning sides spare the lives of the intelligent, like the germans from ww2 that created nasa, how exponentially more advanced we would be if humans valued intelligence in the past.
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>>19256479
>Doesn't matter how many times you say it. It is clearly not true. Because they made the pyramids with the tools available to the precision we see now.
this is the entire point... they literally could not have made the pyramids with the tools they had at the time... their tools did not have the precision, much like our eyes don't have the precision to see atoms...
>Untrue. YOU think they didn't have the capability, while people that actually research and study are saying just the opposite.
you dont mention the fact that there is absolutely no evidence about when the pyramids were built... even by world renowned egyptologist... the pyramids are still a complete mystery...
>One that took tens of thousands of laborers over a decade to complete. All with Bronze Age tools and know-how.
>One that took tens of thousands of laborers over a decade to complete. All with Bronze Age tools and know-how.
actual peer reviewed published source on that bruh... :)
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>>19256502
this entire conversation, excluding your cuckoldry, has been about ancient advanced civilizations...
next...
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>>19256533
sauce on that bruh... what are stygians...
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To quantum Anon,
Mate you are owning this, don't stop.
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>>19256538
lol... built the pyramids with tools available... get fucked bruh...
pic related...
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>>19256539
sauce plox
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>>19253668
Greeks were advanced enough that their society was starting to secularize. Religions invested in mechanisms to better hold onto society.
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>>19256550
lol at your honor bruh... and lol at your arguments... why are you even here?
dont worry bae... he is just a friend... you have nothing to worry about...
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>>19256606
thats some spicy sauce bruh... pic saved... very nice... :)
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>>19254672
Dude kek
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>>19256706
>they literally could not have made the pyramids with the tools they had at the time
>Doesn't matter how many times you say it. It is clearly not true. Because they made the pyramids with the tools available to the precision we see now.
>there is absolutely no evidence about when the pyramids were built
The pottery found, the quarries located, and the radiocarbon dating of organic material found all coalesce on the currently understood age. You keep spouting these obvious untruths like they mean something. It's pathetic.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/pyramid/explore/howold2.html
>actual peer reviewed published source on that bruh... :)
Are you fucking serious? You first.
>>19256722
Backpedaling just shows that you have no integrity.
>>19256739
>>19256754
Soo much butthurt. This is funny.
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>>19256731
lol... thank you sir!!! :)
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>>19256753
the greeks and romans are actually very interesting... they are definitely on the list to learn about in more detail...
pic related: roman concrete in the news as they just recently figured out why it was so damn good...
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>>19256766
and here we go...
>Doesn't matter how many times you say it. It is clearly not true. Because they made the pyramids with the tools available to the precision we see now.
they absolutely did not... there is not evidence, not discussion, no heiroglyphs, no nothing about the construction of the great pyramids... as I already taught you, the only mention of any of these things during the old kingdom, and time of cheop, was to outline the reparations of the sphynx which had significant water damage...
next...
>there is absolutely no evidence about when the pyramids were built.
>The pottery found, the quarries located, and the radiocarbon dating of organic material found all coalesce on the currently understood age. You keep spouting these obvious untruths like they mean something. It's pathetic.
There is LITERALLY no evidence about when they were built... you can bury your fucking garbage next to the pyramids all you want and claim you built it but it doesnt change anything... The great pyramids were not built by the egyptians... there is literally no evidence for it... on the other hand, there is copious evidence for the construction of all the other shitty little brick pyramids around it...
next...
>Are you fucking serious? You first.
yes i am fucking serious... and i dont have to go first... there is no evidence the great pyramids were built by the old dynasty...
>Backpedaling just shows that you have no integrity.
lol... pedantry gets you nowhere...
>Soo much butthurt. This is funny.
Ha... "these pics are world renowned mysteries of architectural greatness that bear many similarities to sites in egypt, however i see that they dont pertain to the pyramids... too bad... i almost had to concede that i have no idea what i am talking about" get fucked bruh...
pic related and file name related bruh...
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>>19256813
>they absolutely did not...
>>>Doesn't matter how many times you say it. It is clearly not true. Because they made the pyramids with the tools available to the precision we see now.
>there is not evidence
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/pyramid/explore/howold2.html
It's a nice and simple conversation for you. I really hope you can follow it.
>not discussion, no heiroglyphs, no nothing about the construction of the great pyramids... as I already taught you, the only mention of any of these things during the old kingdom, and time of cheop, was to outline the reparations of the sphynx which had significant water damage...
>actual peer reviewed published source on that bruh... :)
>There is LITERALLY no evidence about when they were built
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/pyramid/explore/howold2.html
>there is no evidence the great pyramids were built by the old dynasty...
>actual peer reviewed published source on that bruh... :)
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/pyramid/explore/howold2.html
>pedantry
I'd really like to hear your definition of this word. And not cut and paste google. Tell me what you think it means. I'd ask you to use it in a sentence but you've done so illogically three times now.
Soooooo much butthurt.
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It seems silly that there is so much amazement over these ancient buildings to the point that people consider that they could not be done in ancient times. It's the same amazement dumbasses express in the comments of dude perfect videos of "impossible basketball shots". Of course the pyramids that stand today seem astounding, but what you don't see in the pics being posted on this thread are the hundreds of shitty pyramids, the recycled ones used to make other pyramids, the cracked unusable blocks abandoned half way from the nile, and the years of training and perfecting of tools and methods by thousands and their children and their childrens children to create something that stands more for the power of indentured servitude than anything truelly astounding.
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>>19256829
They are incredible testaments to what a nation can do when they work with a single intent, with a unity of desire. It's true and unfortunate that singular purpose was sometimes brought about by nefarious means, but the results are unquestionable.
The Pyramids are no less amazing than the Apollo program or the ISS or the LHC, and all of those things were 100% done by humans with the tools and tech available at that time. It's honestly quite insulting to their ingenuity and determination to say it's IMPOSSIBLE for them do have done so without imagined fantasy super-science or help from extra-terrestrials.
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>>19256825
cool citation bruh... ultimately, the only thing that anyone of us can bang out with a rock is your mother...
moreover... thanks for your idiot citation... 10,500 bc... thank you for resting my case with your cuckoldry...
>"Well, we did a first run in 1984, actually, funded by the Edgar Cayce Foundation because they had definite ideas that the pyramids were much older than Egyptologists believed. That they date as early as 10,500 B.C. "
from your own source... now fucking suck a dick to death while you read your own source...
suckle hungrily from pic related while you reread your argument fuck stick...
exactly as we have been talking about this entire thread... minus your cuckoldry of course...
next... :)
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>>19256851
little pyramids yes... great pyramids no...
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>>19256270
the initial part of this video... this is exactly what i work on and relates to what youre saying...
i am definitely looking into this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3g0AWmlGnk&ytbChannel=Brien%20Foerster
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>>19256866
Adding intellectual dishonesty to the list.
>>19256868
The whole Giza Complex.
>Now at Giza, I should tell people how this has come down to me personally. Because I actually went over there with my own notions of lost civilizations, older civilizations from Edgar Cayce. When I worked at the Sphinx over a five-year period we were mapping every nook and cranny, every block and stone, and actually every fissure and crack as well. And I, on a couple of different occasions was able to excavate natural solution cavities in the limestone from which the Sphinx is made.
>Zahi and I sort of did a stratographic dissection of these ancient deposits. That is we did very careful trenches, recorded the layers and the different kinds of material. The bottom material sealed by a temple built by Tutankamen's great or great great grandfather, was Old Kingdom construction debris. They stopped work cutting the outlines of the Sphinx ditch—the Sphinx sits down in this ditch or sanctuary. We were able to show exactly where they stopped work. They didn't quite finish that. We found tools, we found pottery, characteristic of the Old Kingdom time of Khufu, Khafre, and Menkaure.
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>>19256881
>Now the point is this. That it's not just this crevice or that nook and cranny or that deposit underneath this temple, but all over Giza, you find this kind of material. And as I say in looking for our carbon-14 samples, climbing in the pyramids you find the same material embedded in the very fabric of the pyramids, in the mortar bonding the stones together. So back to the question, is there an earlier civilization? Well, as I say to New Age critics, show me one pot shard of that earlier civilization. Because the only way they could have existed is if they actually got out with whisk brooms, scoop shovels and little spoons and cleared out every single trace of their daily lives, their utensils, their pottery, their wood, their tools and so on, and that's just totally improbable. Well, it's not impossible, but it has a very, very low level of probability, that there was an older civilization there.
So answer his challenge where is your single shred of evidence that this earlier civilization lived? Not just "built a giant structure" but ate, shat, slept, did anything that actual people do?
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>>19256745
first cut on the sphinx, 54,000 yrs. -abdel hakim awyan.
but it was a power centre long before that. originally an outcropping of limestone, or a yardang. people would go there 50 000 yrs ago just to re-energize.
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>>19256851
Agreed. I was making a point about humans being perfectly capable of doing these amazing things but you put it much more eloquently. If the amount of time and energy spent creating these feats were spent on rediscovering how they were made, it would be a huge step forward in reclaiming the lost knowledge of the past, but as some have posted in this thread, the world believes they are better off with the current accumulation of knowledge which is sad.
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>>19256881
>>19256883
1) fuck off with your intellectual dishonesty...
2) the pyramids didnt use any fucking mortar idiot...
3) if i take a rock that is, for example, 12 thousand years old and leave a bunch of tools around after i repair it 4 thousand years ago (along with the FUCKING documentation that I repaired it), that doesnt mean the rock is 4 thousand years old...
now, as i said before... suckle hungrily from the cuckoldry of your own source... :)
next...
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>>19256879
the vela supernova that went off likely affected the climate of our entire solar system if a chunk hit us. we know that planets like uranus are completely on its site. the earth itself is 23.5 degrees.
mehler points out the crack in an underground shaft, shifted about an inch and that the casing stones are blown off many of the pyramids, not quarried, they're still there. which would have abrutly ended the giza power plant. most of those sites including abu rouash show signs of major hydrogen blasting. the rose quart granite in the grand gallery and king's chamber, the scorching clearly goes into the bedrock. and geologists are lined up if they could just get a micro slice of it.
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>>19256896
it's not a competition fled flinstone
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>>19256893
i have heard about the power center... i am not convinced yet... but another anon in this thread is talking about sound waves and some other energy stuff... the sound waves is something to look into in my professional opinion, tin foil hat or not... it does have some scientific backing... although weird as fuck...
who is abdel hakim awyan... more info please...
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>>19256851
the apollo progrum claims they landed two single chamber rockets on top of eachother backwards landing it on the moon backwards with no climate control or radiation protection with buzz handling a joystick backwards
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>>19256915
im the guy talking about the energy and sound. hakim says they combined masculine and feminine water in the queen's chamber no higher than floor level and then blasted with acoustic energy, splitting the hydrogen atom.
hakim stresses water and sound
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>>19256910
interesting... i never heard of a supernova... i always heard a comet strike that may have "knocked" the earth around a bit... but uranis is interesting too...
here is a garbage tier source on the rotation axis shifting... i read something recently that even inuits in alaska are noticing the shit is off...
lots of talk of nibiru and other stuff *tin foil hat stuff...
also, ancient cataclisms look likely in peru (at puma punku) as well as in shit like mass graves of mammoths all with broken legs...
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/nasa-earths-poles-are-tipping-thanks-to-climate-change/
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>>19256939
shit is off, civilization doesnt have 7 years left. did you know we dont have ten years on this planet anymore, it will innundated with floods and earthquakes. by 2050 this planet will be venus
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>>19256905
1 - You're the one taking quotes out of context.
2 - Maybe you should write the guy that actually went there to study them
3 - "actual peer reviewed published source on that bruh... :)"
>next...
>answer his challenge where is your single shred of evidence that this earlier civilization lived? Not just "built a giant structure" but ate, shat, slept, did anything that actual people do?
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>>19256925
what is masculine and feminine water? are we talking acid and base here or something else...
interesting about the queens chamber... we can fuse (not split) hydrogen theoretically using sonoluminesence... this "smells" like what youre talking about... but (respectfully) still a bit weird... I will look into it more as i have heard about this water/sound business from multiple people...
anyways, lets say the queens chamber is for fusion/fission... what about the gallery, kings chamber, and the "air holes"... thoughts?
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>>19256941
mayhaps... for lots of reasons... extra spoopy stuff sounds like it is going on... i have been keeping my eye on antarctica just in case... :)
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>>19255824
>How about flying buttresses
those have been around since like 4000 BC
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>>19256954
masculine is clean and warm running water being heated by the suns rays channeled through basalt, combined with feminine, silty cool with minerals and soils originating from the bowels of the earth. esoterics know of up to 33 different kinds of water.
the king's chamber was designed with every dimensional feature as a resonant chamber for sounds of specific frequencies. the grand gallery was loaded with a wood framework designed to shoot soundwaves up at 45 degree ceiling tiles then straight into the king's chamber before being filtered by the antechamber.
the air holes, or the southern shaft in the king's chamber exited a collimated beam or stimulated emission transmission from a microwave receiver housed in the wall. coffer was a tuned cavity crystal signal amplifier.
filled all the cavities in the great pyramid with acoustic energy and hydrogen input. anybody wouldve been fried in there.
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>>19256961
keep your eye on florida, jakarta, any eastern seaboard city
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>>19256963
Really? Which ones? Earliest known I'm aware of were developed 4th-5th century AD.
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>>19256948
as you wish bruh...
1) the quote was direct... ergo fuck off...
2) as is WELL KNOWN, and part of the fucking mystery, there is NO mortar used in the pyramids...
3) i dont need a source for that... if i bury garbage next to rock, that doesnt date the rock...
>answer his challenge where is your single shred of evidence that this earlier civilization lived? Not just "built a giant structure" but ate, shat, slept, did anything that actual people do?
gobekli tepe... this not just "built a giant structure" doesnt fly bruh...
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>>19256973
what is your source for all this?
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>>19256988
>>19256988
master engineer and craftsman christopher dunn who works on jet engines.
antechamber controlled the sound to a scale of harmonic steps to a lvl that would excite the h2 to higher energy lvls
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>>19256986
>direct
So you don't understand "out of context" either. Are you still in high school?
>WELL KNOWN, and part of the fucking mystery
Again - write the anthropologist who was doing the on-site research.
>i dont need a source for that
Then I don't need to accept it. You're wrong until you have support for your claim.
>gobekli tepe
Is still a large structure, and ISN'T evidence of an super-science advanced race.
>Well, as I say to New Age critics, show me one pot shard of that earlier civilization. Because the only way they could have existed is if they actually got out with whisk brooms, scoop shovels and little spoons and cleared out every single trace of their daily lives, their utensils, their pottery, their wood, their tools and so on, and that's just totally improbable. Well, it's not impossible, but it has a very, very low level of probability, that there was an older civilization there.
Well?
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>>19256948
it is now done... read the "inventory of stella"
"it states clearly that khufu restored the sphinx"
bye felicia... welcome to the thunderdome bruh... :)
try as hard as you can to ignore the garbage tier source and just focus your plebbian brain on the actual content...
http://www.ancient-wisdom.com/ghizahistoricaccounts.htm
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>>19257002
>So you don't understand "out of context" either. Are you still in high school?
phd bruh... you? :) and its not out of context... direct quote...
next...
2) THERE IS NO FUCKING MORTAR IN THE GREAT PYRAMIDS...
3) source linked to you earlier....>>19257004
suck it hard and slobbery...
4) gobekli tepe is evidence for an advance race... the fucking thing is as far removed from dynastic egypt as we are... die in a fucking fire...
5) no shit right? i build a megalithic structure but forget to leave my "pot shards"... lol...
dont worry bae... look through the garbage... there are no condom wrappers... go back to sleep...
pic related doesnt count cause there is no garbage... get fucked bruh...
So you don't understand "out of context" either. Are you still in high school?
next...
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>>19257002
fat fingered link... as duly stated before... get fucked...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/trevornace/2017/04/30/ancient-stone-tablet-found-reveals-comet-impact-sparking-the-rise-of-civilization/#e0b88957342c
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>>19257026
ancients used sound to fuse the stones together without even having to vitrify it
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>>19256995
i will look into it... gotta get to bed now... good talk actually... no joke, this idea sounds crazy as shit, but there is definitely legitimacy to what you are saying... dont let anyone tell you otherwise... i will leave you with a question which has been bugging me and that i think you may want to look into...
why sound waves and not EM waves???
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>>19257026
lmao my pot shards. he can go smoke his pot so he can shit shards. no seriously only stone withstands the test of time. those artifacts exist in the cairo museum, but much much more is hidden under the sand. in fact the indigenous say the giza complex includes 9 pyramids altogether, the rest still buried!
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goodnight everybody...
goodnight anon >>19257002
... all shit talking aside, it has been fun and i have actually listened to your arguments... :) respect!
pic related: my favorite...
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>>19257035
there are more waves electro magnetic or quantum than we can start to calculate in the great pyramid. the ancients knew that 2 giant stones side by side over a current of running water created an em field. the sound waves utilized in anti grav involve em.
anyways g'night stranger
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>>19257004
>>Well, as I say to New Age critics, show me one pot shard of that earlier civilization. Because the only way they could have existed is if they actually got out with whisk brooms, scoop shovels and little spoons and cleared out every single trace of their daily lives, their utensils, their pottery, their wood, their tools and so on, and that's just totally improbable. Well, it's not impossible, but it has a very, very low level of probability, that there was an older civilization there.
>Well?
>"inventory of stella"
Lol - you mean this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inventory_Stela
>The text contains many anachronisms and its elaboration is poor. To the scholars it is obvious that the stela was a purposeful fake, created by the local priests with the attempt to certify the Isis temple an ancient history it never had. Such an act became common when religious institutions such as temples, shrines and priest's domains where fighting for political attention and for financial and economic donations.
>>19257026
> its not out of context... direct quote...
The only thing that can be taken out of context is a direct quote.
>2) THERE IS NO FUCKING MORTAR IN THE GREAT PYRAMIDS...
BETTER WRITE THE ANTHROPOLOGIST IN ALL CAPS THEN.
>3) source linked to you earlier
Thought you didn't need a source. More intellectual dishonesty and backpedaling. And your source is crap.
>gobekli tepe is evidence for an advance race
No, it's evidence for early civilization.
>>19257028
That was a fun read once I found the ACTUAL article. Tell me, do YOU know what the authors actually said?
>>19257044
Well since the main quack is leaving I won't tease out the info:
http://maajournal.com/Issues/2017/Vol17-1/Sweatman%20and%20Tsikritsis%2017%281%29.pdf
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>>19257095
and the conclusion:
>According to the catastrophist viewpoint, the Younger-Dryas event was probably caused by a cometary encounter with the Taurid complex. Can we now confirm this?
>No.
>What we can say is the following;
>It is very likely that the people of GT had been keen astronomers for a very long time, and the low-relief carvings of animals (except snakes) symbolise specific asterisms. Pillar 43 very likely refers to the date 10,950 BC ± 250 yrs.
>There is a consistent interpretation of much other symbolism at GT in terms of the YD event as a cometary encounter, which supports the theory of coherent catastrophism. But we cannot be as confident in this proposal as the proposal for the date stamp. Other evidence from further excavations at GT and other sites may help to clarify this. Evidence linking GT to coherent catastrophism is as follows;
>1) A great deal of physical evidence from a wide range of earth sciences appears to support the proposal that a major event occurred around 10,890 BC. A leading candidate for this event is a cometary encounter consistent with coherent catastrophism. The date stamp on pillar 43 corresponds closely with this date.
>2) That the people of GT remained interested in this date even several millennia later suggests it was a very important event that had a significant impact on their cultural development.
>3) The headless man on pillar 43 indicates the event lead to loss of life.
>4) Symbolism on pillar 18 is consistent with an event of cosmic origin. The fox symbolism, in particular, suggests a cosmic event originating from a specific position. The belt-buckle, ‘eclipse’ and snake symbols are consistent with a cometary encounter. But the symbolism on pillar 18 might be consistent with other astronomical interpretations as well that we have not considered.
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>>19257130
>5) Pillars 2 and 38 indicate a special interest in the Taurid meteor stream, the same meteor stream proposed responsible for the YD event and the current period of coherent catastrophism. But the series of asterisms on these pillars might be consistent with other astronomical interpretations as well that we have not considered, or they might be entirely random sequences with no meaning. The statistics of the match certainly favours the Taurid meteor stream hypothesis, but they are not strong enough to be certain about this.
>6) When all this evidence is considered together, it makes a strong case for the YD event as a cometary encounter, and hence for coherent catastrophism, that had a profound effect on the people at GT.
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>>19256384
Thats china
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>>19256973
>anyone would've been fried in there?
whys that? are you saying theyre like nuclear generators?
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RA Schwaller de Lubicz
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>>19253883
Not any modern ones. There's this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5DNvYMtkyk but it's probably outdated. Still good nonetheless.
If you want good information, just look up any of his recent presentations, TED talks, or Joe Rogan podcasts.
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>>19256769
No, actually you're not. You sound fucking autistic.
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>>19256301
Seriously, the Bosnian pyramids are on a flat earth level of stupidity.
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>>19259555
thanks dude, nice trips.
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