Did someone have True jewish grimories of magic and talismans

>>19249867
Jews fear magic more than anyone. They're an entire race of cucks and you know it.

That said, good luck finding something legit that hasn't been watered down and censored literally to hell and back.

>>19249867
>Implying Mathers was a Thelemite
You also know that there are more complete, newer editions of Abramelin, no? You could check out some shit on Kabbalah, like Sefer Yetzirah. I'm reading that one right now. At the very least, the astute student can make a golem and climb the tree of life using the info in that book.

>>19249898
>The people who invented Kabbalah and descend from Solomon are afraid of Magic
Bottom Jizzle.

>>19249898

U really think that jews fear of kabala maasit? u are so undestanded in the literature, Abulafia, Ibn gabirol, and the arizal went a lot of this things and there are HighPriests, Go read crowley bro.

>>19249902

From who editorial? From who commentarist?.

>>19249951
Wanna say Georg Dehn, maybe? I think there have been two updated versions since Mather's came out. The Mathers version, while not the greatest, played a huge role in introducing this grimoire to the English Speaking West.

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>>19249867
Here you go stupid. See you when you're dead.

>>19249909
Doesn't matter where they came from. You can tell by how they handled their own history that they're afraid of it.
>>19249930
When people don't fear something, it reaches more than the few elites who aren't afraid of it.

>>19250047
>You can tell by how they handled their own history that they're afraid of it.
Nigga, you evidently don't know even a LITTLE bit about what you're saying. Some of the more orthodox forms of Judaism, TO THIS DAY, *REQUIRE* intense study and understanding of Qabalah, and some of the greatest editions of the ancient Qabalistic texts are edited/commented upon by modern practicing Jews. You, anon, are one dense individual!

>>19250188
>Some of the more orthodox forms
Are Jews known for doing magic on the streets and being so good at it that they don't fear the result of spreading knowledge of it because it's easily dealt with when someone abuses it?

No? That's what I call fear. Until *most* sects are known for that, until it's ubiquitous, it's fear.

Because when people *don't* fear knowledge, it spreads like a virus.

>>19250218
Is ANYONE known for that? Dude, you gotta cool your autismo down for a bit. If you think "not wanting certain secrets to get into the hands of autists like yourself" is the same as "fear," then fine. But being "afraid" of what some lonely virgin weeb faggot from an Indonesian Basket Weaving vBulletin might do if they possessed the keys to the universe is *NOT* the same as "Being afraid of the keys to the universe."

>>19250241
>Is ANYONE known for that?
Yes.
>But being "afraid" of what some lonely virgin weeb faggot from an Indonesian Basket Weaving vBulletin might do if they possessed the keys to the universe is *NOT* the same as "Being afraid of the keys to the universe."
Yes, it is. That is exactly what it is. I'm not afraid of sharing the keys at all. You, are.

You're even afraid of the first key.

>>19250271
>acting like he knows something about a random person because of an explanation they gave in favor of keeping the keys to the universe out of the hands of tards
There's a reason there's a thing called initiation anon, and why every solid group worth their salt utilizes an initiatory system. But the main thing is, I'm not on here bitching about how people I 'don't like' refuse to throw pearls before swine.

>>19250271
>"Yes"
Please, who? Who is " You can tell by how they handled their own history that they're afraid of it."

Are you talking about illusionists? This ain't Chris Angel Mind freak, nigga.

>>19250286
The reason for initiation is fear. The world before today, the world throughout history, the world on up to today and for many years to come, is ruled by fear.

Or did you think human sacrifice was the only way fear could possibly manifest and it'd never motivate any other parts of our cultures?

If you want to get real here, throw out the emotion you've attached to this dialogue and explain the practical, rational, not-rooted-in-fear reason for initiation, and cite specific examples in *any* tradition.

At all, no one can comment a single book name..

>>19249898
Random Jews will try to red your coffee grounds, scold you for "bringing the evil eye down on their heads" by speaking a good fortune of theirs aloud, and warn you about not buying shoes second-hand, because "you're wearing the previous owner's luck".

That's just now, let's not get started on Solomon and the Kabbalah, you complete and total faggot.

>>19249898
Kek, good one Goyim

>>19250932
Same question here...

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>>19249867
just make your own

>>19250271
Do you want an actual Key to the Universe?

>>19250188
>>19250218
>>19250241
True Ancient Knowledge of, Ancient Jews, Ancient Hindus, Ancient Egyptian and Ancient Chinese, etc., all come from a single, even more ancient, origin, which is, Ancient Alchemy(ofcourse it was called differently but the meaning is the same).
Only tiny fragments of that Ancient Alchemy Knowledge/Wisdom survived uncorrupted, and are now misunderstood and used in the wrong way.
Pieces of the surviving Ancient Knowledge were hidden/abused in greed, and misunderstood, resulting in later being used as bases to be twisted into religions(to control the people), and even in our time, twisted and used in creating the current science and technology.
Btw Im not the ones any of these replied to.