Is there a lot of weird occult shit in the third world we never

They got voodoo and witch doctors, if that's what you're asking

>>19225554
Abso-LOOTELY

>>19225554
Yeah go to Mexico

There's a difference between the ancient occult knowledge of learned societies, and primitive shadow-jumping superstition borne purely of a lack of understanding of the world around you.

>>19225564
I'm talking about African stuff you shitlord

Yes. Black magic a plenty. Let them fuck each other up and leave the civilised world out of it.

>>19225832
You just said the third world dumbshit.
Go to Tijuana

>>19225598
Yeah, Afro systems are pretty sophisticated if you'd ever bother to take the time to learn about them.

I'd recommend thumbing through McNaughton's "A Bird Dance near Saturday City: Sidi Ballo and the Art of West African Masquerade" but I somehow doubt you could be bothered to read it.

Thei magic gotta be well developed and effective given how well they prosper and how far their civilisations got. Really potent occult powers.

>>19225554
Yes,in everywhere there's a occult shit senpai.

>>19226024
This viewpoint stems from:
>having sex with a virgin is the for cure aids!
>crossdressing will confuse the enemies bullets and make you invincible in battle!

But other than that:
>Afro systems are pretty sophisticated
Is a fairly accurate statement.

>>19226056
Please demonstrate to me how the Bird Dance, developed before the rise of modern HIV, stems from either HIV or the chaos in Liberia (especially considering Liberia is 200 miles from the Malian border, Mali being the focus of the ethnography). Please.

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>>19225554
Pretty much.

>>19226024
>Afro systems are pretty sophisticated if you'd ever bother to take the time to learn about them
amen
i'll look it up rn and read the book

>>19226065
I think you misunderstood what I was trying to convey.

>This viewpoint stems from:
>having sex with a virgin is the for cure aids!
>crossdressing will confuse the enemies bullets and make you invincible in battle!

Meaning the common idea that Afro systems are nothing more than simplistic shadow jumping superstition, can be partially attributed to the above.

>Afro systems are pretty sophisticated
>Is a fairly accurate statement.
I thought this would have alleviated any confusion...

>>19225564
>go to Mexico

LOL

half assed Indian death goddesses dressed up as the virgin mary + shit poorly ripped off from cubans

Fuck Mexican magic and mexicans in general

>>19226353
>-T. Angry Cuban

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pretty sophisticated

african voodoo and magic are based on superstition. in africa girls born on specific days are killed because its believed that become witches. also, beautiful women are considered magical and often end up being seen as oracles. african tribal magic is a 5,000 year old form of practice from a time when medicine was a piece of cow shit and a stick tied to a someones neck to keep evil away. but in terms of really horrifying occult happenings mexico has always had the satanic cults that kill people as sacrifices. same with other parts of south america except you get a lot of cannibalism. most of the stories about demonic possessions and evil spirits comes from areas of severely poor and are catholic. they don't have the understanding of most of the common mental illnesses and thanks to the church praying on their fears it has yet to change. look at russia and serbia. they have some serious shit going on there and a lot of people ignore it.

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>>19226033
czech'd and kek'd

They're just more gullible.

>>19226353
were you bullied by mexicans, little faggot

>>19226024
Despite the presumed racism of the post you replied to, would you not agree with the statement? That there is a difference between occult knowledge of learned societies, and superstition born of a lack of understanding about the world?

>>19226747
>look at russia and serbia. they have some serious shit going on there and a lot of people ignore it.
Could you shed some light on it? I know russia has a strong folkmedicine culture, but i know nothing else

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>be a 3rd worlder
>can't read
>dying of starvation
>live in a literal mud and animal shit hut
>believe in voodoo, witches and the babadook

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>>19227740
>be 1st worlder
>also cant read
>morbidly obese yet paradoxically nutritionally starved
>live in a house you can't build, can't fix, can't afford, and is likely owned by someone else you pay
>believe in God, witches, and Slenderman
>believe you have any ground to criticize others

>>19226353
are you mad about the other BBC fucking your qt gf?

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>>19226777
I CHECK MY OWN TRIPS

HA HA HA

RACE WAR

>>19226024
>McNaughton's "A Bird Dance near Saturday City

>simplistic tribal story telling
>sophisticated

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>>19225554
Mysticism is for fucking RETARDS.
Go to church and stop being a sperg.

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>>19227841
Kekek hahahaha... So damn fu*kin true.

Theres weird occult shit going on that we havnt heard about in every country

>>19227841
>>19228198
who are you and why are you here

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>>19225554
The obscurity of their ways is because they don't rely on science or physics for that matter. It's not real. They're not educated enough to know that. I think their culture depends on poverty. They wouldn't want to change if they could.

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>>19225554
just the opposite, its more openly discusses or preformed because some of those places are like those mad max movies IRL and essentially lawless wastelands where anything goes.
there was a documentary on a special police task force in south Africa in the 90s that dealt with anything occult or witchcraft related because it was so prevalent then. You aslo have human trafficking, cults and other organized crime operating in the open in places like southeast Asia or south america right out in the open

>>19225554

WE

>>19228176
So did you get to the part where they're talking about the liminality system of craft-magic and how to transfer it from crafter to object to viewer?

>>19227679
And what makes you think any given African system of initiation is less "learned" about their environment than the West? I mean, I can make the same sort of implication only in reverse, that the West doesn't have "learned" mystics because they can't differentiate between edible and poisonous species or have effective solo lion bowhunting techniques while West wastes its time on theoretical occult geometry.

It's just always amusing to me that Westerns like to give tribal occultists shit about their lack of knowledge when the Westerner can't even identify half the plants growing out the window or secure clean water in the savanna.

>>19229067
WUZ

>>19226353
For awhile there was a cult or cartel that sacrifised people for drugs to pass unnoticed, it wasnt until they killed an american that they found out

>>19229087
Are voodoo against magick?

>>19229087
You're avoiding my question by focusing on regions.
>any given African
I didn't say anything about Africa.
>the West?
I didn't mention anything about the West.

Do you think that "learned societies" can only exist in Western culture?

>Westerns like to give tribal occultists shit about their lack of knowledge
But I didn't do this. At all. I purposefully left it as generic "learned societies." I never said or implied a tribal society was not learned. You are doing that.

Now please answer my question:
>would you not agree with the statement? That there is a difference between occult knowledge of learned societies, and superstition born of a lack of understanding about the world?

>>19225554

Yes.

An untalked about element of it though comes from members of the elite western class, very wealthy, with occult interest, who wish a 'God' experience of sorts.

There are people who will spend vast sums of money in their personal fortunes, to be deified by the poorest, near stone age, third world residents that can be found. And there are many within this lucrative trade that assist them. It usually starts with missionary types, who 'scout out' a potential community of near primitives to assess their gullibility, if they are properly timid enough, isolated enough, malleable enough. Than a private security firm , i.e., mercenaries, comes to subjugate the community. Eventually the savior, i.e., client, comes and 'emancipates' the people. Or so this is generally the way it is done. The general result just is identify a suitable group, abuse that group, falsely 'free' that group with a leper messiah of sorts. Many than sink to utter debauchery, as they abuse the trust and reverence put in them by their victims.

>>19226016
>I don't care that I'm wrong I just want to cry that my country has been invaded by spics
Wew

Who cares what a bunch of dindus do?

Macumba is real, but disgusting and evil. Never done, never will.

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>>19229897
I've seen that shit here in 3rd world.
Macumba, San La Muerte, and all that stuff.

it's interesting but I rather not dwell into that.

>>19229462
I wonder why Ape got so intense and put himself at the defensive.
Like, chill out.

>>19226353
May your tortilla chips always be stale
What do you think about mexican magic now?

>>19225554
I heard in kenya a witch doctor put a curse on two adulterers and they got stuck together during sex untill he freed them
Probably just a ploy by either the government or the witch doctors to get money or to stop the rampant extramaritial affairs plaguing the country

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>>19225554
>Is there a lot of weird occult shit in the third world we never hear about because lol poor people?

there's a lot of occult shit we never hear about in the first world

>>19229061
Sauce on that movie or a name?

>>19229500
dam niggu-sama tell us more
>>19230074
sauce on this retarded baby intimidation photo

>>19225554
Haiti national religion is vudoo

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>>19229944
>those digits

>>19230103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmCrQ3QDBm8

found it, sorry it took so long

>>19225554
The Etoro, or Edolo, are a tribe and ethnic group of Papua New Guinea. Their territory comprises the southern slopes of Mt. Sisa, along the southern edge of the central mountain range of New Guinea, near the Papuan Plateau.

They are well known among anthropologists because of ritual homosexual acts practiced between the young boys and men of the tribe. The Etoro believe that young boys must ingest the semen of their elders daily from the age of 7 until they turn 17 to achieve adult male status and to properly mature and grow strong.

The Etoro believe that they each contain a certain amount of life force, the highest concentrations of which are contained in semen. This life force passes to others through sexual relations. Women are seen to waste the life force if they do not get pregnant after sexual intercourse. As people get older, and their bodies weaken, this is attributed to a depletion of their life force.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etoro_people

>>19225598
Really. Look at Christianity.

>>19230878
*tips*

>>19227728
werewolves, vampires, witches, the koschei (deathless people) ufo's. forest demons, forest lights, people disappearing and the serbian metal mounds out in the marshes.

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>>19230942
Supa blyad :DDD
Cheeki breeki :DDD

>>19225554
>we never hear about because lol poor people?

More like that's what savages do.

It's just odd when civilized people do it.

>>19231006
Most /x/ material spawns from the first world.

>>19228245
Is this bait

>>19231034

Weird occult shit is generally "real", it's just that the people do it because they don't know better.

Lots of /x/ stuff shows up in the civilized world because there's not many threats left to ID, so people see/hear/believe things that don't exist.

>>19229931
>I wonder why Ape got so intense and put himself at the defensive.
I hope he returns, I greatly respect his opinion. My question wasn't an insult or challenge, I really want to know how he differentiates between occult knowledge and superstition or if there's is a difference to him.

>>19231436
Ape had a good point however. Many posters on this board do act like that, he may have assumed you were one of those posters and got a little too excited.

>>19226024
>>19226065
>>19229087
m8 nobody gives a fuck that you read a book and suddenly think you're a genius
>the West doesn't have "learned" mystics because they can't differentiate between edible and poisonous species or have effective solo lion bowhunting techniques while West wastes its time on theoretical occult geometry
Imagine being this retarded

>>19229500
Do you have a shred of evidence for that?

>>19231436
>I hope he returns, I greatly respect his opinion
>>19231472
>Ape had a good point however

kek samefagging this hard

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>>19233042
filename

>>19233030
>m8 nobody gives a fuck that you read a book and suddenly think you're a genius
1) I don't think I'm a genius.
2) I'm suggesting an entry level ethnography that I liked studying West African religious iconography for a year. If you want some other, potentially more difficult ethnography, I can recommend a small stack of 'em.

>Imagine being this retarded
K, anon, prove me wrong.
Glance outside and give me the common name of every plant, fungus, or insect in eyeshot, and the seasonality, as well as domestic and occult uses.

>>19231436
The functional difference is your amount of respect (or lack thereof) of the practices in question. I mean, I'm not the one who needs to substantiate that what the Ekpe initiatory sect does is fundamentally different from what the Freemasons do, that substantiation is on the person making the claim.

>>19233047
nice edit

>>19233061
>Glance outside and give me the common name of every plant, fungus, or insect in eyeshot, and the seasonality, as well as domestic and occult uses.
Why?

>>19233067
To prove you're equally or more knowledgeable than the stupid backward tribals.

>>19233061
>The functional difference is your amount of respect (or lack thereof) of the practices in question.
Thank you. To clarify, the main difference in power (right word?) between a magic ritual and a chain letter is how much people accept there is a difference in power.

>>19233072
>he thinks tribal natives sit around all day hunting lions with bows, and rubbing mashed up plants on each other for occult purposes
For an "Ethnographer" you have a very Hollywood concept of them.

WE WUZ TULPAZ AND SHIEET

>>19230942
What is so special about these metal mounds? I'm intrigued.

>>19227679
>Despite the presumed racism
>presumed racism

You already lost the argument

>>19233369
Considering I asked a question and wasn't arguing anything, I don't see how.

>>19225554
Lel if only you knew the shit i saw while deployed in mali

>>19234770
Share??

>>19234777
Bump for dis

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>>19229944
>triple dubs

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>>19225832

Their occultism consists of
>Spraying people in the face with pesticide to get rid of evil spirits
>Wearing a Vulture skull on their belt to help win the lotto
>Chop off parts of little boys bodies to make strong potions
>Chop off parts of Albino's to make strong potions

Allot of ridiculous stuff man, I could go on for days. They do have some creepy folk tales about creatures though.

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1/?

>>19234800
>>19234777
First of excuse my English
I was in the 8th Marine Infantry Parachute Regiment (RPIMA) of the french army. I wont go into details but when we wer part of operation serval most of the shit we did was recon patrols and such , idk the exact English term. but it also meant we spent allot of time in the desert alone

>>19234870
I wont go on for too long so here is three things that i wont forget from my "trip" there
Giant snake
A witch ?
A guy high out of his mind
wich story should i tell ?

>>19227841
I love you

>>19225564
Whats wrong with Mexico ?

>>19235384
witch craft. Mexican here that used to live in bumfuck nowhere.
so my mom's grandpa was getting mocked by a talking huge turkey as he was burning wood for coal. so him being a brave man charges at it in the name of Jesus and stabs it with a pitch fork he had and throws it in the fire. the witch starts begging to stop it saying she is sorry and she has kids. my great-grandpa doesn't give a fuck but it slips away. next day they learned about a woman three towns over that has died due to fire and impaling wounds just like the witch he burned. shit is crazy over here man. I have more crazy stories about witches and paranormal.

>>19235519
De que parte eres?

>>19235519
>talking turkey
That witch needed to sort out her life priorities mang.
shizz gets cooler the more south you go,
the closer to catemaco the spookier.

>>19235578
Zacatecas para el norte 30 minutos de Torreon y 50 de Saltillo

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>>19228181
>Mysticism is for fucking RETARDS.
>Go to church

>>19233201
they have been reported for several hundred years by the locals in those areas. they are giant metal spheres planted deep in the marches that are hollow and if you spend enough time around them you begin to feel sick. a lot of people thought that they were old missile silos however it is not radiation that causes the sickness.

>>19235519
>>19234901
>>19230942
More please, this stuff is interesting

>>19234901
all 3

>>19229087
>It's just always amusing to me that Westerns like to give tribal occultists shit about their lack of knowledge when the Westerner can't even identify half the plants growing out the window or secure clean water in the savanna.

Its called civilization. I dont see why a civilized man should know these things. And if they want to, they have the library and internet to learn that stuff.

>>19237779
okay so my dad when he was young he was a rebel and decided to go party to the next town over in a horse because family is poor af at night without my grandmas permission. my grandma being the vindictive woman trying to teach a lesson told my dad he was going to meet the devil for not listening to her and disrespecting the house rules. so my dad is done partying and is coming back to the house when he sees a three headed Rottweiler in front of him with red-eyes. my dad is scared shit less but the horse even more so and they high tail it all the way back to the house where the dog stops chasing them. my dad told my grandma what happened and my grandma starts crying because supposedly a mother's curse is the worst thing a mom can do to the son. the good thing is that my dad stopped being rebellious after that night.
another true story is about two brothers that decided to follow the noise of a pig and the piglets dragging a chain to the ground. this supposedly signifies that wherever the pigs go there's money or treasure. it was always heard by the people of the town but no one had the balls to follow them. anyways they follow the noise to where it stopped and sure enough they found a clay jar full of Mexican revolution gold coins. the first brother that opened the jar got hit by poison of the build up from the chemicals and died the second brother kept the gold and is still alive and rich as shit.
another story but of my village mystery lights. long story short there was an accident at this place leaving my village where a lil girl died with her family. after a month lights started appearing at the same spot where the accident happened from 8 pm till 2 am. and whenever people pass that spot you get chills. I have experienced the chills myself and I wasn't a supernatural believer

>>19226709
kek

>>19229339
WIZURDS N SHIET

>>19237873

>> Confuses civilized with domesticated.

No mate, being that disconnected from your natural state, like knowing how to feed yourself, and shelter yourself, in nature, means you have a real deficit and knowledge of the human condition and more than likely exist in a completely artificial environment dictated for you by others.

>>19227841
The less you know the more easily you are duped. Superstition runs rampant in humans so why not manipulate them?

>>19230789
bump

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>>19226777
Re-checked 777 times! Heil!!!