Invocation / evocation might as well just be self-deception.

>>19189673
Bamboozled a fuckton of LARPers.

>>19189673
he regrew his hair with magic

....oh wait

Kys

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Name one magical thing he ever did aside from dying at 50 of pancreatitis.

>>19189673
It's not really important what he did. The most important thing in magik are the topics that are discussed in depth. These writings learns you things that make you stronger and are hard to find elsewhere.

>>19189834
If you're going to call yourself a magician you better perform some magic.

>>19189834
>>19189843
btw don't get me wrong, i'm working through book of thoth and his tarot right now and it's an incredible work, but still.

He changed the world OP - maybe you don't understand what Crowley means by Magick - cause you spelled it wrong. Magick is the science and art of causing change to occur in conformity with the will. Stop and read the introduction to magick in theory and practice before you go on questioning whether or not his Magick was real - because it is

>>19189884
>is the science and art of causing change to occur in conformity with the will.
So, it is a science and an art if I want some toast and go make some? Causing things to happen according to your will is called "getting off your ass and doing it". Why the need for all this ritual and other bullshit if his magick is "I want X, so let me go do the series of steps it takes to get X"?

By that standard everyone does magick every day. Kids, adults, senile people, retarded people, even animals do it. Golly, this world is such a magical place.

>>19189916
OP here. The best I've been able to discern, "magical" is a combination of meta programming ala Robert Anton Wilson sandwiched next to metaphysical teachings from the Mysteries.

>>19189941
s/magical/magick

"We put no reliance on virgin or pigeon, our method is science, our aim is religion"

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>>19189673
>Name one magical thing he ever did.

Predicted accurately the destruction of Boleskine by fire in the "next century" over 100 years prior it´s destruction.

>34. But your holy place shall be untouched throughout the centuries: though with fire and sword it be burnt down & shattered, yet an invisible house there standeth, and shall stand until the fall of the Great Equinox; when Hrumachis shall arise and the double-wanded one assume my throne and place. Another prophet shall arise, and bring fresh fever from the skies; another woman shall awakethe lust & worship of the Snake; another soul of God and beast shall mingle in the globed priest; another sacrifice shall stain the tomb; another king shall reign; and blessing no longer be poured To the Hawk-headed mystical Lord!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boleskine_House#Conflagration_.282015.29
> since the extent of the damage is so bad it "is unlikely it will ever be rebuilt unless there is someone out there with an interest in the occult wanting to spend a lot of money."

>>19189843
He crossed the Abyss.

He discovered Lam demons known today as Grey Aliens

He saw knomes while hiking.

He mentored Jack Parsons who in turn released Lady Babalon and whose knowledge helped create NASA

>>19190211
Also meant to add...evoked Goetic demon Buer

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>>19189916
>By that standard everyone does magick every day

>>19190227
I still found it quite paradoxical that Crowley wanted promote some universal doctrine that would be adopted by whole mankind, while Book of the Law literally talks about "the select few" in multiple verses and generally practicioners of Thelema are to be regarded as a very apparent minority in contrast to majority of population

>>19190244
I don't give a flying Fuck what you find paradoxical cunt...

>>19190244
Anyone can adopt Thelema.
Few join an Order.
Fewer still put in the Work.

magick is the most primitive form celestial attainment. Crowley studied and in doing so helped preserve ancient spiritual theories, ones that had nearly been wiped out by modern religion.

>>19190258
This. Crowley said that there was no need to hide occult knowledge, because only a small percentage of the people who will read it will actually do the excercises, and maybe learn something. Magick is and will be naturally elitist, because it requires persistance, and seems ridiculous until it doesnt.

I've never met a Thelemite who wasn't a complete twat. And I'm not saying it's BS. Just that every OTO/Crowlean I've met has been a huge knobcock.

He laid the foundation for an entire generation of fuckass hipsters to posture like they have secret knowledge.

> system and system

You should pretty much all fucking kill yourselves.

MAGA.

>>19189916
Because anon it gets more complicated when everyone else wants the same piece of toast.

yankee rose

>>19190296

This is complete bullshit. OTO literature is filled blinds.

You need to be initiated to get the oral tradition to properly interpret things, and even *that* is a graded system where members of the "outer church" are not privy to the same knowledge as the inner group, and so on.

You have to know virtually nothing whatsoever about this topic to say otherwise.

> SYSTEM AND SYSTEM

Wake the fuck up, lurkers, if you smell what I'm cooking. Go to the gym.

Didn't he write smut?

>>19190352
yaoi to be precise

I've got a question.

Does Crowley actually say anywhere that you Thelemites should all become have 60mg oxycodone up your ass 24/7 so you can induce schizophrenia via dysfunctional dreaming, or is that just some other correlation?

>>19190364
na but opioids are pretty fun...just meditate on weed or sober or whatever and you can draw your own conclusions soon enough if you have intelligence.

>>19190590

Yeah that was the problem.

If you have intelligence, you realize that there's pretty much only one thing these people could be trying to do to get that toast.

> System and system.

>>19190257
Aha lol, I enjoyed that

>>19190647
Depends on how learned you on and on what subject man, some people prefer the abstract some believe their own realities and perceptions. My view anyway.

>>19189843
A magician is someone who specializes in stage magic. You know, sleight of hand stuff and illusions. At least use the correct terms if you're going to start forming debates.

>>19190304
You're mama included...

>>19189916
>So, it is a science and an art if I want some toast and go make some?

>So, it is a science and an art if I want some toast and go make some?

in fact it is

if you dont get it dont worry, most people cant be wizards anyway

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Friendly reminder:

"When he was 14 years old, he was knocked unconscious after a mishap with a homemade firework on Guy Fawkes night, 1891. The homemade "roman candle" consisted of a large glass jar with almost two pounds of gun powder. The explosion shattered nearby windows, left Crowley with pieces of gravel embedded in his face, and knocked Crowley unconscious. He remained in a coma for four days , and had to wear a blindfold for two weeks for fear he would go blind from the flash.

After he came out of the coma, or so it is said, Crowley had a marked change in his personality and behavior. Some of his followers believe that this accident opened up what Colin Wilson might call "faculty X", giving Crowley "mystical powers". In reality, what it probably did was give him minor brain damage. People who suffer head injuries involving brain damage often exhibit a change in personality and psychotic behavior, and any trained psychologist or psychiatrist will tell you this is so.

Psychotic behavior can include extreme impulsiveness, aggressiveness and a disregard for the law and the rights of others. There is no one more important in the world of the psychotic than himself. Crowley exhibited these behaviors after his mishap. It was on that Guy Fawkes Night that Edward Alexander Crowley ended and Aleister Crowley began."

http://usminc.org/crowley.html

>>19191125
That sounds really fucking epic.
So that's how he became super Crowley

>>19191125
>Friendly reminder:
The ONLY place I can source that is to the blog it's posted to.
It ain't in Confessions, or the Diary manuscripts.

>>19190340
>This is complete bullshit. OTO literature is filled blinds.
Like?

>oral tradition
If you mean knowledge lectures that come out of Breeze's approved discussion topics, sure.

Calling yourself a wizard when you can't actually cast magic is some SJW "gender is non-binary" tier revisionist language

>>19191626
>The ONLY place I can source that is to the blog it's posted to.
>It ain't in Confessions, or the Diary manuscripts.

Really? I could swear in the confessions there is a passage describing young Crowley experimenting with chemistry and being part of some sort of explosion. Then again, it was years ago I last read confessions.

>>19189673
He used techniques that inspired automatic writing, which also influenced the greatest artists of the modern era for starters. He traveled the world and if a small percentage of the legends live up to the actual events, he must have been quite magickal. He wrote some of the most Geniusly coded and beautifully written treatises on Magick as a tradition that spanned all of our written history, and don't forget that the highest aim of Magick is tapping in to our genius. If you've ever read and comprehended some of his most accessible material, you might be aware that he was in fact more brilliant than most people who have ever lived. He selflessly revealed secrets of the elite for anyone capable of understanding those mysteries and he was demonized for it. He did many more things than all of these that were just as note worthy and in fact he may have done just about everything one can do while influencing the ideas of future revolutionaries and thus our entire culture today. In short, you criticize something thay you have no understanding of, which makes you a willfully ignorant, and pathetically stupid shit head.

>>19190304
Obviously, He was the Manson of the early previous century's occult.

>>19189673

Triggered your candy ass.

Good thread

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>>19190211
>He discovered Lam demons
is that true? no grey's in art before that?

>>19192551
Lam is neither a demon, nor an alien.
Read Amalantrah.

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>>19191626

>>19192561
>>19190227
>>19191626

daily reminder this tripfag is a hopeless amphetamine addict

>>19189916
It is a magical place. The art of magick is fucking with your perception and messing with seemingly external probabilities to influence the particular outcome. For example, with toast, everything that can be physically done you should get off your ass and do, but the probabilistic parts like whether your toaster works, whether you find money to cover the cost of ingredients in the middle of the road, etc.

It seems that because our perception comprises reality (what else could) and our perceptions are subjective, you can use magick to mess with the more malleable side of reality and tip the scales in your favor.

>>19192703
Irrelevant. Refute his arguments or stop acting like a bitch and GTFO

>>19189673
He was the first one to expand upon the keyword, INRI, in quite a long time, via reversal of IAO to arrive at NOX, the formula of the New Aeon. Are you that butthurt guy from the other thread? Holy autism!

>>19192561
Ape, any updates coming? Or shall I go ahead?
>>19192703
>Implying you can get withdraws from abruptly stopping amphetamine

Anon, I do not think "addict" means what you think it means

>>19192928
>Ape, any updates coming? Or shall I go ahead?
I've been photoshopping a dank Gunther meme, give me a few.
>Also, I dunno if mega's still fucky

>addict
>implying I've consumed speed in a year and a half

>>19192931
Noice. Was worried the assblasted Gunther-phant caused issues with the janis/mods

>>19190211
it's good there are so many proofs for what you're sayin...


...oh wait

>>19192879
literally what?

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>>19189673
what are the first 3 Crowley books that I should read?

>>19192989
Google is your friend. If you're gonna act like you know everything about a subject, don't ask to be spoonfed when somebody answers your question.

>>19190227
Ape, please help me:
>>19193005

>>19193005
The Book of Lies
Magick in Theory and Practice
The Psychology of Hashish

>>19193005
Who is that? Looks like a chick I used to 'hang' with, if ya catch my meaning

>>19193005
>>19193018
Thank you!

>>19193022
w2c qt emo gf?

>>19193018
book of lies probably won't make sense unless you go through book of thoth + the tarot first

>>19193037
Dunno what w2c means? I used to bang a chick that looked VERY similar, was my meaning, though. Don't even miss her.

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>>19193018
>>19193043
Any essentials to read after those first 3?

Also, does summoning a succubus gf have any negative side effects, if done correctly? Or, is it not worth it in the long run?

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>>19189683

>>19193068
>if done correctly
It's not really a thing. Succubi are a thing to a degree, but not in the 4chan sense of the term

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>>19189673
Oi wanka! 'and o'er ye goods or I'll sock you one in the gob m8

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HAS BLACK MAGIC GONE TOO FAR!?

>>19193224
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oa07KWJB4sU

>>19189673
We are talking about him and magick almost 100 years later. That's kinda magical for me.

>>19189725
Probably healing everyone else during those 50 years. But I think that also involved herbalism sometimes, so I'm not sure if that counts.

>>19190197
That's not a prediction if he didn't name it, you gullible retard.

>>19193005
Get your god damn shoes off the bed

Oh my friend! Muscelini!

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>>19193417
What spell is he casting here?

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>>19193537
The antient and arcayne incantation known as "Listen up you fucking plebs."

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>>19193537
>>19193557

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>>19193571

>>19192561
no

>>19193616
Ok.
Then substantiate the claim it's either demonic or extraterrestrial from Crowley's writings.

Not Grant's.
Not some Christian blogger's.
Crowley's.

>>19189673
Your expending this much energy on him. He's won. That's magic. You don't even seem to like him. That and he's dead, but here you are.

>>19193631
^This.
I have an excuse, dude's my Prophet.

What's yours, Christcucks?

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>>19189689
Only faggots care about their hair.

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>>19193638
Is it possible to summon Crowley to talk to him?

>>19193264
"holy place" exactly refers to Boleskine, multiple times in the commentaries regarding that verse you FUCKING RETARD

YOU.FUCKING.RETARD FUCK

>>19196208
through necromancy.
or if he was the beast he purported to be.
as a demon summoning.

(7 fucking captchas ffs)