So according to NASA, we aren't going back to the moon

>>19186789
Same deal as the pyramids.

The aliens help only one time.

That, or it's a fucking disinfo op and they have dudes going back and forth to the moon as we speak.

The being on the moon forbade them from going back or else.

>>19186789
It just means NASA is too lazy to develop new landers and what not.

They've got mattresses to develop, damn it

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>>19186789
It means that the companies producing the stuff are now producing other shit or dont exist anymore.

Contrary to what most people think nasa did not create the technology to go to the moon , they just assembly everything

The rocket engines were from rocketdyne
The lunar module from Grunman
The command module from North america aviation

The saturn v inside was produced by boeing and two other companies.

When you check all of those companies except boeing no longer exist (grunman does but was anexed to other).

So nasa ordered in the 60s enough stuff for a period of 3 years and nothing more , in fact they did not even use the rockets and lunar modules for the last two planed landings apollo 18 and 19 , after landing 5 times and with a period of increasing solar flares nasa decided to stop there.

The lunar modules of apollo 18 and 19 were used in apolo soyuz and skylab.

But now there are no longer companies producing those stuff and even if they did the engineers that know the tech are dead or retired and even if that was not the case its old tech and no one would risk their careers pushing it.

>>19186789

we didn't pile up all our old rocket engines and transistors in a garbage dump and set them on fire.

we did retire the space shuttle program because space shuttles were shitty and old and coming up with a modern replacement was a higher priority than fixing old useless shit. and the space shuttle program already couldn't go to the moon, so really this goes all the way back to Apollo rockets with their 64KB hard drives.

his statement is the equivalent of saying "we don't have 8-track cassette players in our cars anymore because we don't have that technology lying around and it would be a pain to replace it".

there's plenty to be ashamed of here, since apparently the USA no longer gives a fuck about space and won't PAY to replace the space shuttles with newer technology, so instead we're going to let the Japanese and Chinese space programs colonize the moon while we argue about whose fault it is we're in debt and have school shootings and third-world healthcare.

SpaceX and other companies are supposed to fill the gap, so we'll see if the private sector can do what the government couldn't. unfortunately that's only going to succeed if they can figure out a way to profit from space, and i feel like there's too big of a gap between "restock the ISS" and "mine asteroids for palladium ore", and the companies won't last that long without constantly injecting cash from things on Earth that do make a profit. and that's only going to last as long as we have awesome guys like Elon Musk who are willing to spend billions of dollars to visit space without seeing a return in their lifetime.

sooner or late the company always gets inherited by some braindead son-in-law who scraps everything cool for higher first quarter profits and works two hours a day between martini lunches and banging his secretary in the Caribbean. every Hewlitt Packard ends up being run by a Carly Fiorina. once that happens, space will contain only Asians.

>>19186814
>The lunar modules of apollo 18 and 19 were used in apolo soyuz and skylab.

Command module

The lunar modules of 18 an 19 are in museums

>>19186789
All the Nazis died and the were refused heirs to their industries by the social policy organisations.

How you going to land on a hologram

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The moon is flat.

>>19186848
/thread

china says usa never go to moon
http://www.social-consciousness.com/2017/03/chinas-lunar-rover-finds-no-evidence-of-american-moon-landings.html

After watching room 237 I'm convinced we never went to the moon in the first place.
Either that or the first moon landing was fake and we visited the moon several occasions after, in which case we continue visiting (or even colonized it) it behind public eyes

>>19186853
what proof does china have that the rover went to the moon?

if the us can fake it in the 1970s how well can china fake it in 2010s

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>>19186866

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Well I believe the U.S. went there landed and returned.

I think the real problem they have is that we are NOT welcome there.

Whoever runs the show up there on the Moon (Kingdom of God?), they do not want earth Faggots up there prancing around in Tu-Tu's, and having BLM, Gay-Pride parades and shit.

The object in the image fired some sort of weapon at Apollo 17 as they were departing from Lunar orbit.

Sort of like GTFO, and Don't Come Back.

According to some sources they were constantly getting harassed by very strange objects, and things zipping past their heads, and space-craft.

>>19187187
>According to some sources

"some sources"
Yeah. right. Extremely reliable ones i take it?

>>19187187
Some of the stories circulated around claims that whoever/whatever is behind the objects and sightings.

They were menacing, belligerent, unfriendly encounters.

The Moon is their turf.

>>19186825
> since apparently the USA no longer gives a fuck about space and won't PAY to replace the space shuttles with newer technology,
>tfw thanks to liberals, all our space money went to shitskins
Ready for the DOTR 2bh

>>19186789
Are you an idiot? Do you think NASA gets the technology and money to go to space our of their ass? Do you think they just shit it out?

This board is unreal sometimes.

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>>19186789

They ran out of turkey foil.

>>19187497
Buzzfeed

>>19186853
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/jun/22/antinews/its-fake-news-chinese-lunar-rover-found-no-evidenc/

>The post attributes the quote to the Beijing Daily Express, a publication we found no record of.
>While the rover did take many photos, Andrew Jones, a journalist following China’s space program, points out that Yutu landed far from the Apollo landing site, so there wouldn’t be evidence one way or another.
>But the petition is nowhere to be found and alleged signee and "world renowned nuclear engineer" Yury Ignatyevich Mukhin is actually renowned in fake news circles as a Russian conspiracy theorist denying all moon landings. The only information available about him online, though, has been produced by Mukhin himself

>The story can be traced back to a 2014 post on WorldNewsDailyReport.com, a known peddler of fake news that assumes "all responsibility for the satirical nature of its articles and for the fictional nature of their content."

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It's becasue we live in a concave earth. The moon is not real. You cant land on something not real. So it was faked.

>>19186789
Quick google

https://www.space.com/7015-40-years-moon-landing-hard.html

Too much money going towards propping up people who don't work. Nothing left for NASA.

>>19186789

With the ability to send unmanned vehicles to do the job, there is absolutely zero reason to send a manned flight back to the moon.

Not until we decide to colonize the damn thing.

>>19186789

We're in quarantine.

Humans aren't allowed outside LEO.

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>>19187187
>I think the real problem they have is that we are NOT welcome there.

Right.

Except for the fact that we made 6 different lunar landings over a 2 year period, which pretty much blows that stupid fucking theory right the fuck out of the water.

You fucking morons are fucking insufferable, and should really be culled to help clean up the fucking gene pool.

Fuck.

>>19187647
this

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We choose to go to the moon. We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win, and the others, too.

>>19187762
dude the aliens didnt greet us so we were not "welcomed"

>>19186789
Humanity priorities shifted, so the money and the scientist went to black projects, war makes more money than space.

>>19186814
Great answer but still 100% bullshit

All these same or similar components can still be obtained

NASA is lying is the only answer that makes sense which u a scum bag shill

>>19186789
It means that all of the rockets we built to go to the moon 50 years ago are in the scrapyard, and nobody's building new ones.

>>19186789
Just because you have the capability to make the technology does not mean you currently have the technology available to you. The rockets we use now don't have the ability to reach the moon, we would have to once again make rockets with the capability to do so as earth orbit (where the ISS is) is far below where the moon is and currently rockets don't need to go that high up.

>>19186789
>So according to NASA, we aren't going back to the moon because
this one time they apparently sent people through van allens belt, before they even knew about it.
the astronauts that went to the moon must have been superman tier beings to survive that radiation

>>19186789
its fucking expensive

>>19186789
this is crazy, he didn't say they won't spare the resources anymore but that they have destroyed technology so can't. WTF

>>19186814
Someone with knowledge

thank you

>>19188105

Yet, a manned mission to Mars, which NASA has proposed, and in the next 5 years isn't?

>>19188386
There'd be no reason to go back to the moon. New discoveries are more important to put money into than something we've already done.

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NASA does not have the necessary technology, but the military does.

TR-3B Anti-Gravity Spacecrafts | Military.com

http://www.military.com/video/aircraft/military-aircraft/tr-3b-aurora-anti-gravity-spacecrafts/2860314511001

Classified Advanced Antigravity Aerospace Craft - Utilizing Back-Engineered Extraterrestrial Technology

https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_antigravity.htm

>>19187559
It does look hilariously budget. Trillions of dollars and a decade or so of years and this is what we have to show for it. Like those poor people that duck tape their car together. Aliens must just be watching us at this point as if we're a running joke. They'd dare not intervene and help us least they ruin their favourite comedy show

>>19188462

100% BULLSHIT.

The fucking military doesn't have any of that shit, or they would have used it numerous times over the years to ferry JSOC to and from their targets, and yet they're still using shitty 30 year old helo's and 50 year old fixed wing birds.

Fuck off with your LARP-tier garbage.

>>19187854
What's others? Is that why they killed him?
Also who pronounces decade - dick-aid. Is it because he thought with his dick alot

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If NASA returns to the Moon, America could form an alliance with the Clangers against the Hoots. But this could draw humanity into an intergalactic war. This a dangerous situation that will be avoided.

Clangers - S01E11 (The Meeting)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDgfdlsc6R8

>>19188510
That was way creepier that it had any right to be.

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>>19188102
How else do you think this mad man survived fighting the Archon's in Antarctica!!

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Missing layers

>>19187704
yeah all the governments money is going to all those lazy fucks in the red states who take in massive amounts of money but don't give anything back :)

>>19186809
THIS. There is currently a higher demand for mattresses that won't spill red wine when you jump on them than there is for moon landers.

>>19188485
I fucking saw one last night. I live near NORAD in Colorado, and I fucking saw one of these last fucking night. I know they exist, and I'm not going to flip my shit every time I see one, which last night makes 3.

>>19188530
Still wondering what happened hear honestly

>>19188555
Sure you did, LARPer.

>>19188555
I saw one of those too back in like 2010. Even took a pic on an old shitty nokia phone I had back then.

>>19186789
Here's the real reason we've never gone back to the moon: it would be a complete waste of time, money, and other resources.

We've already proven it can be done. Now, there's literally no other reason to go back.

>>19188462
>>19188485
>>19188555
>>19188597
I also saw one around 2010 in albuquerque

>>19187187

>muh aliens

no one believes in that stupid shit

>>19188559

their cgi fucked up you fucking willfully ignorant tard

>>19188639
This, theres fucking nothing of value there

If there was atleast something shiny then thered be funding to acquire moon jewellery, but all thats there is rock and dust

>>19188711
Moon rocks still cost millions of dollars?

>>19188757
And it costs more millions to go up there and get the fucking things then bring them back
plus its dangerous

Our civilization is falling apart.

>>19188555

I used to live in Conifer. No LARP. No bullshit. But a few years back i saw a blueish light rise out of a mountain a little bit south west of where i was. It hovered there for a moment and suddenly flashed and disappeared. There was a trace of light but this fucking thing was GONE. I have no clue what it was, just one single light. But it was very unnerving and i wasnt the only one to see it.

>>19188700

So you 100% dont even think it's a possibility that there are aliens? You are ignorant and shouldnt even speak on the subject. Fuck right off.

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>>19188641
No, you didn't.

You may have seen a triangular aircraft, but you did NOT see a fucking "anti-gravity spacecraft", because nobody has any fucking "anti-gravity spacecraft", because we're still too fucking stupid to make such a craft.

If we had "anti-gravity spacecraft", then we wouldn't have had to rely on the same fucking fixed and rotary wing aircraft we've been using since Operation Eagle Claw in 79', Grenada in 83', and Panama in 89'. But nope. We're STILL using the same old shit to ferry in our fucking assault forces all over A-stan, Iraq, and even to shoot that sandnigger Bin-Laden in the head in Pakistan. That "anti-gravity" bullshit doesn't exist, because if it did, JSOC, and the rest of the force, would be using it, and we wouldn't be riding around in the same fucking CH-47's, CH-53's, and C-130's that our fucking grandfathers flew in back in the Nam'.

>>19188700
Bullshit. The evidence is overwhelming that our planet is, and has been, visited by ET vehicles for a long ass time.

>>19188896
Show me one good proof then.

>>19188906
Nigger, do your own research.

Coyne UFO incident, Iranian UFO incident of 76', Japan air flight 1628, Bethune UFO encounter over the atlantic.

None of that shit can even be remotely explained by anything other than non-human vehicles with any semblance of rationality.

>>19188708
I'm looking for the globe shills excuse

>>19188951

This. I hate people denying shit, just to be a contrarian faggot.

>mfw moon landing take
>mfw people want to go to the moon even more
>mfw government and NASA so autistic that the plan made to keep our interest from the moon makes us more interested

>>19187647
glad to see some people are actually using their brains here

>>19188951
But none of those have any other proof than " I sure saw something wierd"

>>19188102
they knew about the belt.
they survived it by going aroud the worst parts and moving very quickly.

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We 40K now???

>>19189011
"I sure saw something weird" has lead us to the understandings of physics and the cosmos we have today. It's called deductive reasoning, and we humans are pretty good at it.

>>19189106
It also lead us to all of our incorrect assumptions about physics. That's like saying that because the internet has some facts on it, the whole thing must be true.

>>19189135
>It also lead us to all of our [correct] assumptions about physics. That's like saying that because the internet has some [untrue] facts on it, the whole thing must be [untrue].

2 can play your stupid fucking game, but you'll have to find somebody else to circlejerk with, because I'm done with you.

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>>19188956
One shill was trying to say it was "dust on the lens"

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>>19186789
Why does the moon emit cold light?

>>19189150
Not everything is true so this may not be true.

Vs.

Not everything is false so this must be true.

Yea, good fight.

>>19188956
You can't really shill that the earth is a globe, it's just a fact. The earth isn't flat, you're wrong, we're right.

>>19189176
The fuck is cold light? Do you know what light is?

>>19189176
They're not behind, they're thin and whispy and btfo by the moon's brightness. Look how overexposed that picture is.

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space is a meme

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>>19186800

>>19186814
But why did he talk about us going to Mars? Yet we can't go back to the fucking Moon. I live in Florida they still have fucking piloted rockets as far as I know.

>>19189184
Prove it. North/south circumnavigation when?

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>>19189560
Because its bullshit pushed by democratic states to add taxpayers money in their state , the current nasa command module (orion) is so underpowered that it cant do what the apollo command module did already in 1968.

Musk plan however could work the same for mars direct , but the current nasa plan is bullshit.

And its not really a nasa problem , i mean the fucking f35 fighter cost already inflation adjusted 12 times the cost of the apollo program ,thats how fucked up things are.

>>19188320

My pleasure

>>19188014
Fact check everything i said it will make you smarter.
You are right , nasa could create a modern lunar landing system in fact bush pushed for it it was called the "constellation program" it included everything you are saying and in fact even better they were going to use a rocket that was an hybrid using shuttle parts.

So instead of having a colosal saturn v it was going to be something smaller that could have solid boosters atached for lunar missions , and using it without it for smaller missions.

After all the problem of apollo was that the saturn v was colossal and having 10000 employes just to mantain a production line of a launch per year was insane.

While the constellation program was fucked up , the rocket for a lunar landing is still in development in the form of the SLS rocket , and the command module is also in development in the form of the orion capsule.

But nasa has the lower budget in decades even if trump increased it so its going to be in development and maybe a manned crew will be launcher in 2020 to the moon but not with landing again since the new lunar module called altair was killed by the obama government.

>>19189758
Also here is some skylab videos the space station was launched in one of the last saturn v

Compare this shit size to the international space station and you realize how insane the apolo project was in size and ambition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKr_78QOE4E

>>19189150
You still can't give me one good evidence how
>The evidence is overwhelming that our planet is, and has been, visited by ET vehicles for a long ass time.
If evidence is overhelming, how is it that you cannot give me even one good evidence.

>>19186789
Kek this is just a fucking redpill for the masses.
Honestly any person older than 5 should get instantly redpilled when exposed to this info, if they don't they can't be saved (either extremely faggotic or just plain stupid)

>>19189200
sunlight is hot, and the moon is the opposite of the sun. Duh. Do some research.

>>19189992
>faggotic
Wow, anon, you're fucking retarded.

>>19188892
>It's that same shitposting US serviceman who thinks he knows everything from the Dulce thread the other day

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>>19189794
Makes me wish they had used the external tanks to build a station before retiring the shuttle.

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We lost the war to some stupid rabbits.

Good job, america. You always amaze me.

The reason that they"dont have the tecnolagy" is because that all the funding is going to the millatary and other groups in america and during the space race people funded nasa more because of the russia all ready incrasing the tecnoalgy so jfk said all fuck we cant let the commies beat us to it so they decided to fund the shit out of it but lets go to presnt day were people dont give a flying fuck about it because we all ready explored it

>>19190383
The shuttle external tanks did not get to orbit sadly so that was not posible , they should have never pushed for the shuttle the ideal thing would have been modifng the saturn v to use solids to save money kinda like the sls.

>>19186789
Basically anything from Apollo is obsolete. They would have to design a new rocket and landing system.

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The reason why NASA wants to avoid moon missions is not due to the lack of technology, but out of respect to the native moon populations.

Confrontation between native life on the moon and an unmanned probe from Earth in the 1970s:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwzaSRV0qzY

Deadly confrontation between French astronauts and native moon beings during the 1902 French expedition to the moon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FrdVdKlxUk

>>19186789
They never went to moon and it's impossible to colonise moon or mars, the planets have intense energies, it will literally fuck us up in seconds. This is the biggest bullshit that is going on for decades

>>19190913

Oh look, another fucking retard....

>>19186814
Grunman turned into Northrop Grumman no?

>>19187559
cardboard makes sense. Thats how boeing builds their planes. then wrap it with sheet metal to keep the plane as light and bendable as possible for flight.

>>19190913

To me the moon has strange repulsive energy. One time when I was having an astral projection experience, I was lifted into the sky by the winds and I zoomed to the moon. But I was repulsed by strange metallic energy and I returned to what appeared to be a future (perhaps destroyed) Earth or Venus.

Full moon meditation - July 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JSqkSYtlaQ

Moon Chants - Full Album - Healing Music #5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvtnHCa8rXc

>>19186789
It means they got caught in a lie and will never admit it was all a hoax.

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>>19190942
>Thats how boeing builds their planes. then wrap it with sheet metal to keep the plane as light and bendable as possible for flight.

You best be joking

I don't buy into this "we lost or don't have the technology anymore." It's bullshit, either we went and found something extremely shocking and as a precaution NASA and the higher ups decided not to fuck with it or we never went in the first place.

I really don't want to believe we never went but part of me is highly skeptical on how they dealt with radiation, cosmic rays, and overall spece weather.

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Imagine being in the sixties, seeing man land on the moon, and think to yourself wow, imagine fifty years from now, it's going to be crazy.

They must be so dispoint

>>19188543
"watch how it doesn't spill even when she jumps up and down!"

>>19186789
We don't make saturn 5 rockets any more, we'll have to develop new shit to take us back to the moon. You guys are surprised that we don't have the technology to go to the moon any more when "we" technically don't have the technology to go to the ISS any more. Space shuttle was discontinued, and we'd need to develop a new capsule to make use of the rockets we do have. We wouldn't be going if we couldn't hitch a ride with the Russians.

>>19186814
thats because all that tech was designed by german scientists, nazi scientists

>>19189758
Tell Trump there are lunar mexicans illegally immigrating into American moon craters. He'll be there in 6 months to build the wall.

Watch videos about how the moon footage is clearly fake

>>19186789
It's fucking expensive as fuck

>>19187762
I second this..

>>19188462
Hate to burst your bubble (just kidding), but that video is fake as fuck. Those are CGI'd as fuck

>>19191668

What about these videos: >>19190888

>>19186789
>We don't have the tech anymore
>Kid using his phone far stronger than the stuff we had way back when to look at porn on the internet

>>19189560
Anon, we CAN go to the moon, NASA guy is not saying it is impossible, just that reassembling the technology would be too much effort for too little benefit (We already went to the moon and saw there what we wanted to see).

>>19186814
Going to the moon should be easy at this point. Claiming that companies producing specialized shit is a cop out. NASA is fake news

>>19186814
sounds like bullshit in my books
nazi engineers kidnaping 2 electric boogaloo when ??

>>19191753
true
hitler and stalin would have killed for having the micro chip you had in your game boy color...they have killed for far less tho.

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>>19188469
lol this
>aliens watch us create the atomic bomb and use it.
>aliens watching earth be like "looks like the kids found the matches lol"

>>19189801
>how is it that you cannot give me even one good evidence.
he just told you to do your own research you inbred faggot, nobody will spoonfeed you

>>19192023
not him
looks like you would have to...
you can't pull out half way like this it's just not something people do if they want to keep their credibility

>>19192038
>you can't pull out half way like this it's just not something people do
people pull out during sex all the time and still keep their credibility

>>19186825
ISS isn't real.. musk is a shill. Get red pilled plz

>>19187556
$19 billion/ year

>>19187647
Yes

>>19187762
You are fake news

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What if NASA doesn't want to go "back" to the moon because if they do, it will look different from their CGI shit they used to fake and wrongfully "win" the space race...???!?

>>19188639
I hear the moon controls tides.. but the moon Isn't real anyways. Get red pilled.

>>19186814
/thread

>>19192076
>i pick and choose from available theories to support exactly the thing i wanted to believe from the beginning and anything that explains i'm a retard must be fake

>if only you'd take the red pill you'd believe in crazy shit with no evidence like me

cool story bro

>>19192217
/thread

>>19190000
quads?

>>19191059
The moon is uninhabitable liberal nigger. The United States of welfare is very habitable.

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>>19186789
We didn't go to the Damn moon.
People..the moon is transparent..
It is so fucking obvious black spots, cause its dark and black sky.
Black sky behind it.
Look at this pic of day time moon.
Spots are blue, and blue sky behind the moon.
It blows my mind that people are so damn dumb and don't use their eyes and trust their own observation and many will believe NASAs lies, and telling you things opposite from ur own observation.

Welcome to end times ladies.
Book of daniel talks about people will think back and forth in their mind about information and that knowledge will iincrease. Basically we have technology to look up things and we will search for the truth.

>>19187854
it was ppart of a larger speech on his goals as president

>>19190933
Yes , but one thing you need to understand is that the lunar module was the more complex machine ever created by humans ever , it was not an industrial product like a plane but a hand made thing , basically every one of them had problems , because they had to be specially made.

And they also had to create machines to create the parts for machines that would create other parts.

It was an insane and epic machine , i think that the place were it was made still exist and also everything about it was documented by video but then again it was a pain in the ass for the people that design it to build it , i can imagine it would be a 5x pain in the ass to upgrade and build it today.

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>>19186789
And they lost the tapes as well!

What a coincidence!

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>>19191010
Actually no , only the saturn V idea was pushed by nazi scientist(and a jew that pushed for one of the stages that still exist today and von brawn did not want(and after recognized he was wrong))

The rest was pure american companies and universities , in fact the german plan was not used because it requiered another rocket bigger than the saturn v named saturn c8 .

The lunar module idea was pushed by grunman and an american engineer that knew of a pre soviet russian scientist that thought of it.

The command module was designed purely by americans no nazis in it.

The rover also no nazis .

But von brawn was a critical part of the program and he was a pretty cool guy about it.
When that jewish engineer pushed sucessfully against that stage that von brawn disliked he recognized he was worng.
When the german direct ascent plan was replaced by the american lunar orbit rendezvous that requiered the lunar module , von brawn opossed it totally and in the end he recognized he was wrong and strarted lobbying for it.

To call apollo a nazi project is insane , even if von brawn was critical for it it would have happened without him , just 3 years late which was irrelevant because the soviets gulaged their top engineer in his youth and died when their lunar project was starting .

And even then the soviet lunar project was going to fail because capitalism was clearly superior.

The yanks started late and gained speed simply because they paid companies to devevelop parts of the projects , mercury , gemini , apollo and more.

The soviets build their own stuff and had lots of politics inside so the soviet rocket had like 33 enginees that were unstable instaed of 5 like the american one.

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>>19193283
How do u know?
Also answer me this..
>pic related

>>19186789
Its because NASA is an outdated PR agency and the taxmuny kikes have moved to greener pastures.

>>19190992
Fuck 'em and their disappointment. Boomer scum fucked us over, now we get to turn inward and have good old-fashioned civilization clashes for the next half century.

>>19193319
>i put words on a picture
>that means they're true

>>19193377
>Fuck idealism. Am I right, guys?

>>19192086
each landing costed 1 billion dollars 1973 that is 5,6 billion dollars today , and that is not including the new technology development cost , for a new lunar landing system nasa would need at least.
33 billions per year.

>>19193319
Well judging by the cuvature that's many miles above the lunar surface and it's only started its separation from the lunar orbiter.

So my guess would be the astronaut in the lunar orbiter.

>>19193319
Camera on the lunar rover?

>>19187647
That is the most retarded thing I have ever seen

>>19193401

And we would get literally nothing out of it. Don't need to go there again until were ready for a moon base.

If we're giving outrageous amounts of money to NASA it should atleast be a trip to mars.

We are going back, it's just more difficult this time because we're not going back to dick around for a few hours, it's gonna be extended stays for weeks and months, and the supplies needed are heavy as fuck. Enter the Aries I and V. Being developed for a return trip by 2020

>>19191986
Not a cop out. What do you expect those companies to have done, keep producing extremely specialized parts to pile up in a warehouse?

Some of the best rocket engines on earth haven't been produced in decades, and we're lucky that the USSR did actually keep making stuff to pile up in warehouses.

>>19193319
The astronaut that stayed in the command module in each of the 5 moon landings in this case Charles Conrad.

>>19193317
von Braun was not the only German kidnapped. Jews make shitty scientists.

in b4 muh Einstein. Plagiarist who got a nod from his brothers in Nobel.

>>19187647
This is some next level schizophrenia

Perhaps the reason we aren't exploring like we want to is that the aliens have left thought that we are not yet developed enough to comprehend that we are alone

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>>19188485
>>19191668

Your claims to refute the evidence I have provided are simply one liner put downs containing abrasive language. I am not claiming that my statements are irrefutable, but if they are, please provide supportive evidence and not crafty one liners. Abrasive language used as a refutal merely adds credibility to the position it is trying to disprove.

Are you two working for the military or in the reserves? With your hateful dispositions, it is no wonder why you were not invited for a voyage on an Emerther/ Mantis spacecraft. I've shared previous lucid dreams/ astral voyages with these or similar beings, and don't don't think they tolerate boding negativity. I believe what they are looking for is intelligent life on Earth and humans with a specific degree of spiritual attainment and paranormal skills. (I'm not claiming that I meet those criteria).

Lockheed Martin scientist on deathbed says aliens are real

https://www.rt.com/news/200903-aliens-lockheed-martin-pictures/

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=+Boyd+Bushman

UFO's with Boyd Bushman and his last interview on Area 51 and UFO's over Tucson, Arizona

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA3HV_gfq80

Boyd Bushman On Antigravity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNPBYtJyfZo

>>19188892
haha, wow buddy, you have a lot to learn. the government does have anti-gravity machines.

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>>19193319
my ocd is kicking since i answered wrong the dude that take that picture was not pete conrad , but richard gordon jr

>>19187647
Omo 363

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we cant because Armstrong made us look like retards to they aye lamo's now we are black balled.
pic related , fuck you Armstrong you set earth back 100 years with your stunt.

>>19188543
so nasa was created to sell infomercial bs

>>19194336
I'm not one of the people you're replying to, and I'm not saying you're wrong. I am saying that what you're posting isn't evidentiary. One guy saying a bunch of stuff without providing evidence doesn't prove your claim. The closest thing Bushman provided was a purported picture of an alien that was immediately, broadly called into doubt and claimed to be a widely available toy. People who are already inclined to believe UFO conspiracy theories will cry coverup, and people who are inclined to skepticism will cry fraud. As someone who falls more into the latter camp, I think Boyd Bushman was having a lark at your expense on his way out. I'm willing to consider evidence to contrary if you have something more concrete than one man's claims.

>>19188530
i dont get it. what is going on?

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>>19187187
Apollo Missions Thread

Buggy
https://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/15827097/640/MOON-STUFF/track-veh.png?v0

Coin
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Head
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Book Lrg
https://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/15827094/640/MOON-STUFF/book-lrg.png?v0

Book sm
https://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/15827093/640/MOON-STUFF/book.png?v0

Body w/stick
https://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/15827092/640/MOON-STUFF/astronaut-2.png?v0

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>>19195566

>>19195237

Agreed from the personal who made that post. Maybe the only evidence that could be accepted without doubt is if aliens were to actually live and mingle among the human population. Even if NASA were to publicly state that aliens are real with their own volumes of evidence, that too could be questionable and even I would question their claims and motives.

The only real evidence that people will accept is their own personal experience. That is why those with astral travel experiences which include interaction among aliens tend to be those who believe that aliens are real. Personal experience in any conspiracy related topic (such as AIDS and 911) is more important that any stranger's personal testimony. It all comes down to what he said versus what she said, who has the motivations and benefits from the crimes and coverups, and how one's own personal experience is more important than what the rest of the world claims and believes.

Saying "We don't have the technology anymore" is a legit reason. I love conspiracies as much as the next guy, but this fits.

If I hand you an 8-track tape and say it has a really awesome song on it, you might say "I can't play this." "Why?" I ask, "8-track was tech we had in the 1960's!" "I just don't have an 8-track player anymore. It was new and flashy in the 60's, but we've since gotten rid of it."

The solution is that we've created newer and better tech for music (just like we're doing/have done for space travel) but we haven't finalized them yet.

Also, and I could be ignorant about this, but the moon, as mysterious and awesome as it is, there just isn't a ton to study there. We have samples of what composes a majority of the surface, we've measured pretty much everything that can be measured, and the moon doesn't really change. In addition to that, any "living in space" experiments or studies we could have are easier and more affordable to execute at the ISS than on the moon.

It takes a shit ton of money to get to the moon, and a shit ton of training. I believe we'll go back someday, but it will almost be like a novelty or a drill/exercise before launching some larger, more elaborate or dangerous launch (such as to Mars).

>>19188530
That looks like two different feeds overlaid on top of each other.

>>19187704
you understand the "liberal" clinton gutted welfare in the 90s? HURR DURR MUH JOBS N TAXES

>>/pol/
you piece of shit

1) We're not funding it because
2) There's not much profit in it. Curiosity (not the rover) has been satisfied.

Now we're trying to put people on Mars. Once we do that, we'll be onto the next thing. But the moon's been done.

>>19186789
>So according to NASA, we aren't going back to the moon because "we don't have the technology anymore"
>What the actual fuck does this even mean, we either never went in the fist place or the moon isn't real, no fucking way on earth we just "destroyed" the technology
>https://youtu.be/GgDBQVor9xU [Embed]
>Anyone have any insight on this?
>What's really going on with the Moon?
>>>
It takes an enormous support base to build, service, and launch a fleet of Saturn V rockets. That rocket, the only rocket capable of reaching the Moon, was decommissioned due to lack of Congressional funding, in turn resulting from lack of public interest. NASA has been on literal life support since the end of the Apollo Program. The Space Shuttle, Space Station, and satellites that are "mission-to-planet-Earth-style" have kept the human space flight program up and running since then, but NASA couldn't stand up a fleet of Saturn V's and the support base necessary to fly them, under current budget constraints. Give NASA money, they can do anything. As of right now they have less than one half of one percent of the defense budget, whereas during Apollo, funding was virtually unlimited. Without a doubt, NASA is our best and brightest, in America.

Also there was a rumor that we were warned away, and that Apollo 13 wasn't an accident, it was literal aliens warning us away by showing us how basic our tech is without actually killing astronauts.

>>19195782
>MUH POL BOOGEYMAN
He didn't even mention Clinton,you triggered shitlord. Keep talking about tuplas and trying to fuck anime demons.

>>19190637
>obsolete
>goes onto explain how there is no current successor to the Apollo program
do you need a dictionary, faggot?

>>19187753
>We're in quarantine.
>Humans aren't allowed outside LEO.
basically. until they figure out whether or not we are gonna kill each other like animals.

>>19188102
>this one time they apparently sent people through van allens belt, before they even knew about it.
>the astronauts that went to the moon must have been superman tier beings to survive that radiation

>what is lead foil

BAKA...

>>19189176
>Why does the moon emit cold light?
the Moon doesn't emit light, it reflects Sunlight.

>>19187556
do you even know how money works? Money CAN be shitted out like a pile of poo, by governments, i.e. Federal Reserve Banks

>>19193335
This tbqh sen-pai

>>19186789
>What's really going on with the Moon?

I heard it stinks up there.

>"we don't have the technology anymore"
>What the actual fuck does this even mean

hold your tinfoil hat

it simply means that since NASA has been defunded and decommissioned

the infrastructure and logistics of creating transportation and technology to do moon missions is now largely defunct

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The main issue affecting NASA's ability to return to the moon is that the moon is actually an alien spaceship. In 1999 a secret British space station had a significant accident on the lunar surface which triggered the warp drive of this ancient alien space station. The original moon and group of British scientists were lost to space. The current moon that is orbiting the Earth is actually a duplicate which is part of a alien fleet disguised to appear as moons.

Space 1999 breakaway scene

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmm8L-BdAPI

List of earthquakes in 1999

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_earthquakes_in_1999

Spirit Science 31 ~ Secrets of the Moon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaDeiBRifm8

The moon is a spaceship:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=the+moon+is+a+spaceship

>>19196007
This all checks out.

>>19186789
Its all about cost, during the time of the moon landings. We were spending just as much as we are on defense than we were on nasa. During the time leaders want a star wars like space war. Today, most leaders have given up the idea and drastically lowering the nasa budget, to an amount that only allows them to afford very small missions.

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>>19196017

In the world of humanity, reality consists of thoughts, emotions and fantasy.

>>19188555
Trips never lie
The TR3B is probably real, but this retarded foilnigger alium antigravity shit attributed to it is not.

We're not on the moon atm because westerm governments decided it brought more votes to give gibs to niggers and immigrants than to advance our species. Thats literally all there is to it.

>>19192023
>nobody will spoonfeed you
They won't because they can't.
"Do your own research" is just an admission that decisive evidence is lacking, but twisted to make the sceptic seem at fault.

>>19186789
we actually don't know how exactly they did it
we lost the understanding of the technology
and they've been reverse engineering some old shit to figure it out
its really kind of sad

but there's a lot of technology we lost like damascus steel and Roman cement
we still don't know how to make even those things
even stratavarius violins

>>19189560
we can go to the moon but we don't know how to build the old tech that got us there in the past
we have to start with different newer technology that isn't necessarily better

>>19186814
Yeah, because we cannot, somehow, with all our money, produce something that we produced in the late 60's. Great critical thinking skills, motherufker, take a class in critical thinking .

>>19190383
I thought these were hotdogs

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>>19196240
>Damascus steel
Heat blade red hot. Quence in Brine (salt water)
>Roman cement
Same as modern cement. That sidewalk you walked on today, Roman cement.
>stratavarius
Take the wood, soak it in brine.


You were saying?

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>>19186789

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>>19187647

>>19188555
I live by Peterson AFB and see weird shit all the time. I guess we are all used to it since people hardly talked about it. One time my friend and I saw this HUGE fucking light coming out of NORAD, kinda like an xbox huge hatch door opening from the top of the mountain. At first I thought it was the moon coming up but we saw the moon higher in the sky. Nigger almost crashed his car because he freaked out

>>19197002
Something I also consantly see are orbs of light just appearing out of nowhere and hovering by the mountains, sometimes lined up, sometimes scattered. People say they are flares but I don't know, they just hover in place for a few minutes and disssapear.

>>19187647
wtf do ppl really belive this XD

>>19187647
>earth's concave is so large is can encompass jupiter when we're obviously smaller in volume

umm..

>>19187647
finally someone intellingent

>>19186789

The tooling used to build the parts used to construct the Saturn V rockets has been recycled or scrapped.

You fucking mongs.

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>>19196284
Its you who need a thinking class , yes we can but you just said it yourself >"with all our money"

Nasa budget is 18 billion dollars per year

Every moon landing costed 5,7 billions per year inflation adjusted to 2017

The development of the tech would requiere a nasa budget of at least 39 billions per year .
That is 3 times the current budget so nasa new budget should be 1,5% of the usa federal budget more or less to fund a moon landing.

Sounds little yes ?well it is , actually , but the us government has more important things to do like financing the f35 that already costed 12 times the apollo program.

>>19196548
aaalright jackass
here's your (You)

>>19196017

Those videos are not real.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofGTVlXXTvM

... and with their eyes turned away from the heavens once more, man cast cynical glaces around him.
The world was now a powder keg... Waiting for the one with the matches

>>19186789
>What's really going on with the Moon?
It's mine.

>>19196248
>we don't know how to build the old tech
Anyone who believes this is a high functioning retard

>>19186789
The simplest explanation is that he misspoke and said "technology" when he meant "wherewithal".

>>19186814
>implying the technology from then that allegedly worked then wouldn't work now.

>>19186794
>moon
mars

>>19188485
>they would have used it numerous times over the years to ferry JSOC to and from their targets
How do you know they haven't? There are higher level units than Rangers, SEALS and Delta. They're not used for common warfare type operations or terrorist hunts.

>>19188386
5 years? Not any more. Trump gutted the space program, which had already been gutted several times over the years by administrations who just didn't give a rat's ass about space. Even ignoring that, you pulled the five year thing out of your ass. Most briefings I've watched talk in terms of multiple decades. As for a moon mission and a Mars mission, that's just not going to happen. NASA is operating on a shoestring, making this an either/or proposition. And opening up a new frontier on Mars is a damn sight more exciting than going back to the moon.

>>19196240
>>19196548
We know how Damascus steel was made (protip: it has nothing to do with brine) and can make analogues of it today. It's not the process that was lost, but the trade routes. Europe, the Middle East, and Asia had access to some seriously high grade ore. We know that it came from somewhere in India, but the particulars are completely gone.

Roman cement is made the exact same way as Portland cement, except that they used volcanic ash instead of just sand. We know this because multiple Roman engineers wrote down the recipe. Interestingly enough, Roman cement is still in use commercially because it cures very quickly and solidly underwater.

Stradivarii were originally made from semi/completely petrified barn timbers the young maestro stumbled across in the woods. I don't think he ever revealed the exact source to anyone. However, the main draw of a Stradivarius is the peculiar tone they emit, which owes more to the maker's particular genius than to the material, though both play a part. Even his all wood instruments sound just breathtaking. Seriously, you have to hear one in person. Recordings do not do them justice. And yes, you could make one today using modern materials and original patterns, but it just wouldn't be the same.

they got chased off of the moon.

>>19188530
That's how compression works - in short, compression algorithm decided that there's no need to save new data for the black part of the screen because "nothing is going on there" and codec continued on rendering the stars from the previous shot because it wasn't fed any new data for this area of the screen. This is compression 101.

they had to destroy the technology because they knew russia would hack them and steal the technology.

>>19196548
Soak yourself in brine buddy, and don't come out until you've drowned.

>>19199640
There were articles about one of the leading scientists at the time dying and with him the knowledge of a lot of the cutting edge tech used at the time, that current day scientists don't have the ability to reproduce not because it's not feasible, but because there are so many different parts involved with no person alive able to comprehend them as a whole. Science has fallen victim to specialization and there's a lack of minds able to see the project as a whole and possessing the ability to put all of it together. But what would a retard like you know about the complexity of such a thing.

>>19186789
>>>19199640
>But what would a retard like you know about the complexity of such a thing.

I'm a different anon entirely, but who the fuck exactly do you think you are? "What would a retard like you know about the complexity of such a thing" have you even fucking graduated high school yet you fucking child? "Lets throw a big word at him and call him retarded, I'll for sure win my internet fight then". Go off yourself cunt, the fact that you're so pretentious and you think you're so fucking smart then how about you bring your "genius mind" over to NASA and tell them what the fu k they're doing wrong, because obviously, they're also "too retarded to understand the complexity of the whole"

>>19191010
>>>19191919

>>19186848
Looks like a pastry.

>>19186814
you look like someone who actually knows something, you are in the wrong board

>>19186794
We have the technology to build pyramids, there's just literally no point in doing it.

>>19200807
>leading scientists at the time dying and with him the knowledge of a lot of the cutting edge tech used at the time
I always forget that the apollo missions took place in a period before man discovered the written word

>>19195566
Some good shit you got there moonmoon

You would have to be pants on head retarded to think these show any of the stuff mentioned.
>Hey this flat rock is clearly a book, because it is kind of book shaped!
>Hey this is a head, and uh this shadow that looks like all the other shadows is a bullet hole!

The only slightly convincing one is the coin, and that is pretty much useless without the original picture to compare it to and confirm whether it is actually a photo from the moon.

The tech is more expensive.
It's also pretty dangerous because of radiation that they weren't aware of back then. No one wants to go anymore because it's dangerous and pointless

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>>19200028
>implying someone would risk their careers sending astronauts to the moon using computers that weight 100 kilograms and have less power than your cellphone.

>Implying that removing it would not unbalance the spacecraft due to weight

>implying that there are not problems like this updating everything

>implying that nasa budget during moon landings was not 4% of the federal budget and today is 0,4

>>19192023
The burden of proof isn't on him

>>19188526
nice, a fake twitter quote. are you guys so fucking gullible that you believe everything you see to prove your schizo-fuelled rants against the government?

>>19193025
This thread is amazing. First, the flat-earthers, then, the moon landing is a hoax, the aliens, and now finally the fundamentalists.

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>>19201663
Dont forget about me bringing the trruth of science to this thread and the history and facts of the apollo and constelation programs

The actual globe-shaped Earth is hidden inside of the moon which is why we can't go back.

Our Earth today IS flat but this is an impostor Earth created by the demiurge. The Berenstein Earth is inside of the moon.

Ayyylmaos are stupid
>durrrr lets make our ships blink visible light
>duhhh late visit this shitty planet and look at these beings but not make our presence known to them
>also let's be cephalopods and have arms and legs just like them

Yall dumb

honestly manned space missions are huge fucking waste of money. we can barely leave earth and we can only collect shitty rocks in very limited amounts.

we need to look to earth. make it sustainable. then research terraforming technology or artificial ecosystems before doing extensive space missions.

>>19202042
you're referring to that really old NASA vid right?

the "blinking" is just the monitor/camera's shitty old tech refresh rate

>>19186789
or we just don't have the funds or available machinery to actually make it to the moon? especially considering theres really nothing of value there. Mars would be a much better goal to reach for.

>>19202008
Are you saying that there is a possibility that someone could be posting to this very thread from another planet/dimension?

Nasa's funding gets cut they CAN'T afford the technology anymore ut tgey also CAN'T be seen as against current government lest tge atracted more ire so they say they haven't the tech anymore rather than saying they haven't the money stop fucking reading into it too much fucking cock sniffers making a cunting mountain out of an anthill

>>19191059
Just like the one in earth right?

More like he'll cry about doing shit but ultimately won't do anything.

>>19196548
didn't the stratavarius come from specific trees, at something like 1000+ years old, that's why they cannot be reproduced

the moon landing is so obviously fake
they didn't go there with a rocket platform and 100s of scientists and engineers to blast off from the surface and back into orbit
the moon might have 1/6th of the earth's gravity and no atmosphere, but you can't just jump off it

the iss is all we have. That's literally all we have. It's our only connection to space. And if that is fake, all hope is lost. All governments have been lying, and keeping space hidden from us. Why?

Earth feels like a prison to me. I just want a jail break.

>>19200349
>mars
Alpha Centauri

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>>19193319
>what is the Apollo Command/Service module

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>>19204275
Kek

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Here is a full compilation of the entire apollo 17 ,mission , the fifth and final moon landing.

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>>19204572


Here

http://www.apollo17.org/

>>19193410
>>19193425
>>19193982
how did the photo film (nothing was digital back then) survive the radiation in the upper atmosphere upon re-entry?

>>19204601
You just put the film in a lead case, it's easy.

>>19204601
By being in a plastic film case.

>>19204543
Even robots don't like that bitch merkel.
>"Bye"

>>19204601
Well that particular screen shot is taken from a video that was broadcast live.

So there was no photographic film to store.

>>19200694
>none of it is actually lost believe me
maybe you're right about the concrete but it was lost for a long time
as for damascus steel you're wrong we can't make damascus steel today
some metal smiths have made approximations and they claim its the real thing but those who analyzed compared their work to the real deal beg to differ though its close

as for stradivarius we absolutely can't make that today no one knows how its made and producing the same tone of the stradivarius has eluded all modern recreations

>>19204802
sword smiths*

>>19204628
>>19204630
plausible

>>19204647
bullshit
they were never on the moon, they had no way of getting off it
Kubrick shot the moon landing in a hollywood studio

>>19204832
Nope

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGXTF6bs1IU

>>19195095
Billy Mays here for NASA's brand new SpaceKleen! Watch how it cleans up this astronaut's decopressed guts from the inside of his suit with ease!

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>>19204871
moon deniers...
IRREVOCABLY BTFO!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>19195873
Federal Reserve is a private, foreign entity. Not at all part of the govt. Shut your whore mouth.

>>19186789
I still don't understand this meme do you even know how far metallurgy has came since the 60's. Now we have CAD and can simulate flights. If you could even make a Saturn V why would you even want to?

>>19186848
nowadays everything is flat around here
except for my butt

It's not that we don't have the technology, we don't have the infrastructure.

>>19186789
They don't have Saturn V's, and they are still developing the next rocket, SLS, and the next spaceship, Orion.

But right now, they have nothing, mostly because USA doesn't want to give them more than the 6 billion they give them each year, despite spending about 800 billion on useless aircraft that they will only use to attack sandniggers armed with rusty AK47s.

>>19204952
/thread

>>19204871
lies