SIGILS

Here's some more infos, courtesy of based Grant Morrison.

http://disinfo.com/2014/10/pop-magic-grant-morrison/

Don't just read this info, fucking do it. Takes literally a maximum of 10 minutes from creating to charging. You have nothing to lose. Do it and be amazed at the results.

Also don't expect to get a job just by making a sigil. In my case I made the sigil, the next day I went to a store and asked if they needed help, got called in to an interview the next day. You won't get a random letter in the mail saying you got a job you didn't apply for. Prior to the sigil I had been job-searching for months without getting called in to any interview at all.

Same applies for anything. Making a 'gief GF' sigil won't make a girl appear from nowhere and outside of your door. In my case I matched with some girl on tinder. Didn't talk to her for weeks, until 3 weeks later she sends me a message out of nowhere asking to hang.

You have to do some work to facilitate it happening.

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>>19130518
could this be a "simple" sigil?

i mean the 2 arrows divergent

"in love dory"

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Ill post some sigils from google just to give some good visual examples of what Bannonbro is talking about.

>>19130640

point blank ill say love magic doesnt work well when you're interested in someone specific, it usually works best for drawing someone to you that meets filters/requirements

if you've got someone as a prospect and you cater it to describe them, then it may rienforce that, but you dont know how much of a prospect they are (in which case it would draw someone else to you that was similar to them)

Ive gotten 3/6 of my girlfriends using love magic because im an autist who can only find girls online. However, the love spell is what drew them to me.

One of them was literally - I took an old red candle with dust on it, jacked off on it, mentally programmed it to bring someone my way who was a milf/cougar (dusty old candle = older). Mental image I used was jamie lee curtis. About 3 weeks later I met a 40yo lady for FWB that looked very similar to her, and she remarked that yeah people have said she looks kinda like her.

> Love magic

There's another kind of love magic called Remote Seduction which literally sends sex vibes to someone that can start making them feel interested for no particular reason.

Basically you jack off and pretend you're making love to someone but you send those vibes To them rather than enjoying them yourself. Its invasive.


> Sigils

Works good but you'll have to pull it out every once in awhile and charge it some more. Its a good idea to carry it with you and I wouldnt have more than 3 Sigils going at the same time, located in different places suited to what they do.

For example if you're doing a money or career one then you would want to keep it either in your Desk / Papers Drawer at home, or in your Wallet.

If you had one for Health it would probably be best left in the Cupboard by the food.

Love spell sigil would be good to keep in your pocket or (inserted under the battery of your smartphone, under the case).

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>>19130640
>>19130710

This kind of thing really requires a creative out-of-the-box approach to making it. You kinda have to engage your subconscious a tiny bit to make it, even though its your subconscious that you're communicating it to.

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>>19130718
My intuition drew me to this one to share too...

I would avoid using roman numerals unless you're wanting your thing to take awhile to work or secure what it is you're looking for. Roman numerals are very "old" and are used for things that are designed to age, such as constitutional amendments, and the timestamps for movie credits and building cornerstones.

If you want to incorporate numbers pic related would be a good chart to use. However don't put them together as a string of numbers like we do, like if there are 4 numbers involved then you might want to put them on all 4 sides of something in a square type of arrangement. Three numbers works good in a vertical line. Five numbers works good to have 3 in a horizontal line + 2 below

Also the way they add together may indicate how this sigil works, again you want to be creative not scientific (111 would not be 100 and 10 and 1).

If you're looking for an 18 year old GF you could have that written for adding up numbers 4 and 4 and 4 and 6 (using numerology to indicate she is Stable and Committed). Or if you were specifically looking for a satanist/goth/edgy chick who was eighteen you could have it written as 6 and 6 and 6.

These numbers of course being represented Intentionally as Letters as per pic related.

If you wanted to key in a decimal or fraction then you'd follow what you remember as a kid doing division that to get a smaller number you have to divide, and dividing means putting the divisor on the bottom of the number arrangement.

Intention is key since the sigil gets charged with intention, even if the imagery could be ambiguous (even someone else reading it would get it).

I mean its like if you draw a Swastika intentionally, in reverse, it is a cursing effect (specifically as much dark energy as about 100 times the negative equivalent of a normal person's vibration). But if you drew one properly and just looked at it through the other side of the paper thats not going to make it negative.

>>19130710
I don't keep my sigils bro. Once their burned they're gone.

Another thing you can do is utilize the four elements to different sigils when you are charging them. Depending on what the intention is.
You want more foucs? Bury the sigil to ground the energy.
You want more energy? Burn the sigil with fire and scatter the ashes in the winds
You want to release some emotions? Flush the sigil down the toilet.

Love magic is shitty left hand path shit. Don't try to fuck with people's free will by making them drink your cum in a 'potion' or take hair or nails from them. Better to use sigil to make someone you do not know beforehand come your way.

>>19130736
I can't vouch for any of this stuff. I never used any numbers or numerology in my stuff. If I wanted to incorporate any number into my intent I write the number in letters. Like when I made a sigil for getting a job within TWO weeks, not 2.

This seems overly complicated, you're not trying to be Abramelin just yet. Keep it simple.
Follow your intuition.

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Gonna try charging this badboy with some internet(or ethernet) energy. I have no expectations, but it might do something(or nothing). I can't even remember the intent for this one.

>>19130740

I guess thats one way to do it too.

> tranny cam
No judgements there, did you get the operation or not? If you wanted to go all the way I will say that it is possible via (non medical) means to just become a girl. But since its so obscure/rare and someone would have to do it to you - you would have to Attract it in your direction.

Just putting it out there, that the types of magic that can literally turn someone into some other kind of creature (vamp, frog, whatever) do exist. LOA and Magic can be used to bring it across your path even if you've got no place to start looking.

Transformations like that are instantaneous too, btw, for helping you understand what to visualize. Cant speak for fertility, that would depend on how good their magic was.

> I know someone, a being, who can do this, who is here physically. But it doesn't take requests like this for strangers.

In the future after the coming WROL changes groups and people like this may come out of the woodwork to share their secrets more.

>>19130518
>>19130743

Hmm I wonder why this is crossing my path at this time. I have some pretty strong needs and things that need to be accomplished... but the forces involved are pretty heavy so im not sure a sigil will help me.

Also the time horizon is rather short, more like days rather than weeks.

Maybe I should make a sigil, but the invocation of it could act as a time trigger (ie, right when I did it)...

>>19130752
Getting turned into (anything else) also requires a physical template to be set up to be turned into. You would have to imagine what your new form would look like down to as much detail as you could determine. If for example becoming a girl you'd be best to study female bodies (porn) to determine what exactly you wanted to look like.

Even if you were only being changed to have breasts and a vagina, you would have to have that down pat (nifty thing with that is you could determine that your vagina doesn't get painful sex, pleasure from cervical stimulation, easily wet, etc etc).

Your higher self would be compiling that into a physical template (which would be stored on your 8th Chakra, the one above the crown).

Such magic that could change you would be accessing that and it would be like "Paste File > Do you wish to overwrite existing file? Yes". Like teleportation the changes happen instantly. Aside from Shapeshifting as a power, this kind of magic as far as I know is pretty much something that another would facilitate with you laying down in a prepared ritual circle - but the magic is (of the "true magic" kind, it isnt anything you would find in historical magick, since all of the true-magic texts have been destroyed or confiscated by the vatican).

Likewise whoever doing it could easily destroy or ruin you if they were a shifty dude.

>>19130752
lol! I have a dick, I'm a man. I was raped in a black magic ritual as an 10 month old baby were they attached some demon to me. This demon interferred in my life and thoughts from the age of 8-9 trying to make me feel like I was 'trapped in the wrong body', 3 years ago I wrote an declaration freeing me from any attachments, contracts or deals with entities. After this I let in some ancient sumerian entity, Ishtar/Inanna, that got me into sacred prostitution shit and escort. I was really in the darkness, dancing with dark energy and power. The transgender agenda is of dark origin, corruption of the feminine energy.

Working with external beings is worthless if you are making deals. Awaken the godhood within and you will never have the need to work with anything external. The greatest power is the kingdom of God within. But I guess I'm preaching to deaf ears here who are on the opposite path of the one I am on. I am not familiar with your acronyms of WROL or LOA.

>>19130760
You have literally nothing to lose(unless you're retarded and make that a clause in your intention/start making deals with external beings).

Do it. Make it. Charge it. And get the fuck out of your place and go to the streets, where you can meet people and let the magic work. Be receptive and open, but always trust your gut if you get bad vibes.

>>19130518
Is burning the sigil 100% necessary or is the point just to "release" it somehow? Like how you mentioned burying it, etc.

>>19130518

You sound like an Alice to me. Schizoidvoid

>>19130790
how long do you meditate for?

>>19130518
Just wanted to say, thanks for posting this Anon. It is oddly enough, exactly what I need in my life at this time. I love serendipity like this. Incredible.

>>19130790
Idk I always try to stay away from any kinds of magic. What I dont like about what you said is charging with masturbation or working out till you pass out that just seems like black magic tk me. I might try it thou

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>>19130832
> yet here you are, posting in a magic thread


>>19130829
nifty that magic works that way usually, but also guardian angels will bring you to find the kinda things you need even if you dont know it - this being one of those cases

>>19130805
Its a good way to get finality to something. Subconscious symbol of having sent a letter and expecting a return as a result. After you've burned it, its no longer in your hands so to speak.

>>19130760
>>19130790

Yeah this is more about getting Finality to a situation which has been needlessly dragging out. Literally even if the outcome is bad its better to have it Now than for things to keep going.

Maybe this is a good way to force the dice to just fall on the table.

Nifty thing is in my case my subconscious is awake and I can pass things back and forth pretty easy to it. Still, techniques like this are good to drive the point home.

Are there any repercussions to sigils? If you're manipulating reality in some way, is that 'allowed'? Won't it try to correct itself or something?

>>19130852
No as a a matter of fact everybody does this to a limited degree throughout their entire life they just dont know that they're doing it.

So you're just doing something you already do, and not being so weak about it.

Its also Alpha AF because you're applying powerful skills to get what you want out of life, rather than playing with the resources at hand you're changing the gameboard.

It feels like cheating at some game but its not, its just everyone else is holding their hand behind their back and making things harder for themselves.

> free will means, being able to choose to stop doing that

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>>19130859
>>19130533

CIP - Bannon here declared "im getting a girlfriend" and dictated to reality thats what was happening.

He might have gone through the motions like anyone else but that wasn't the focus, as it would be for others. Instead it was just a token effort to put him in the line of fire.

Same with his job search. It was already out there waiting, he just went right to it thats all.

> when everyone else is brute forcing methods to get what they want, you just step out into traffic so that it can hit you

Now sometimes this stuff can track you down if there's no way for you to hook up with it necessarily. It all has to do with path of least resistance and how many possible ways something can accomplish what you're looking for.

The less possible it is, the longer it might take as events and resources are routed in the right way to line you up with it.

> for example im homeless and im redpilled AF and ive got no money
> you might think getting a girlfriend who'll give me bareback over and over again, and doesnt have diseases, might be impossible
> however neither you nor I know who lives in the local area, there might be someone out there up for it who fits those criteria
> meeting them could be a challenge but Doing This Procedure can make that coincidental meetup happen
> and it can lead to the proper Context happening that lets me and her hook up, saying the right things, and so on

(1337 chars above, Leet message)

>>19130518
what if I make one on a napkin, swallow it, then it gets destroyed by my intestines and returns to the earth via the sewer, any negative impact there?

>>19130903

Remember you have to "charge" it with your intent too.

The way I do it is my mind sorta becomes more focused/serious (like you're disarming a landmine). Reverent id say is a good word for it. And while staring at the symbol (or a lit candle) I just focus on what this means.

No thoughts of "in order to avoid" or "to not do" something, only positive rienforcement that focuses on the goal.

And then I just spend some time focused on the thing itself (reverent) without adding anything else to it.

Id give it about 3-10 minutes of focus. You want this to be a sorta "gap" in time within your brain where nothing else is going on. But it also takes time for you to pour that force into the thing as well (the more experienced you get the better you are at doing that).

> swallow it?

My intuition tells me that if you swallow it, it may add up to 1 week delay for it start taking effect. I guess like you said, until it properly works its way out of your system.

My suggestion is flush your toilet (or a public toilet) a couple times to make sure there there's as little as possible floating in it, then drop it in there and flush. And maybe flush a second time to ground in the idea that "its really gone".

> Napkin

I wouldnt recommend it. You can use symbology for this, like taking a piece of an envelope from junk mail and writing it on there (envelopes go in the mail, you're sending this to the cosmos like mail).

I suggest using scissors to cut a square piece and write the sigil so it takes up at least 2/3rd of it's area.

Normally id suggest using good paper for it and a good pen (not a ballpoint). Like a sheet of resume paper that you've got laying round, or cannibalizing a manilla folder.

But you work with what you've got. If a dinner plate is all you can muster then thats fine. Its about how special this seems in your own mind (normally napkins arent).

>>19130932
okay i get that it has to be destroyed, but doesnt using card paper make it last longer say if I buried it, not gonna burn it, also thought of using envelope paper, like its sending a message?

say i wanted a promotion and this other guy says put it in your wallet, do you make 2 or use the same one until you get the new job? or how does that work

>>19130966
not that anon but you should do what feels right to you. normally I'd say that whatever you decide, you should stick with for that sigil unless you start to feel like you should do something different. if you decided to keep it in your wallet, then keep it in your wallet - but if one day you get a strong feeling that it's time to burn it and scatter the ashes, then do so.

>>19130966
only one, and im the one who made that suggestion, but the way Bannon put it I think works a little bit better

so just make one, then burn it or flush it or bury it

as soon as it rains and that ground gets wet the sigil will be destroyed even if the paper remains intact (water+earth energy)

>>19130826
Till I enter a state of non-thought. Usually takes 10-15 minutes, sometimes faster. The fastest way I found is Wim Hof's breathing technique. Basically breathe in all air you can, then relax your muscles so air just falls out, instead of pushing it out. Release maximum 25% of the air your just breathed in. After release repaet. Do 30-40 times of this. You will feel ligh headed and some tingling in your extremities. At the last breath, you just let go(let air fall out) and then you stop breathing. Hold breath for as long as you can. In this state of breath-holding it's easy to enter the no-mind meditative state. Look at your sigil, close your eyes. Try to see it as detailed as possible in your minds eye. When you can rrecreate the sigil in your minds eye exactly as it looks on the piece of paper, you burn the paper.

>>19130832
I agree, I'm not a fan of masturbating and this stuff myself. I usually charge them by burning. I once did the exhaust myself thing, for a sigil to give energy. I just sprinted at maximum potential until I collapsed, then I burned it and buried the ashes in the dirt.

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the mental visualization part is whats holding me back. anyone have tips for a anon.

i grew up with to much tv and not enough imagination :(

Can I make a sigil based on "I will stop doing [something]" or is that a negative and won't work?

>>19131536

not a good way to go about it since that could definitely go sideways in how it comes about

positive rienforcement means picking a statement/outcome that invalidates what you want to eliminate, without referencing it

what you focus on grows, so dont reference the things you want to get rid of.

> ie, if you bite your nails...
> subject matter should be about how your nails are nicely manicured

>>19131545
thanks

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Kill yourselves DKMU, or you'll regret it.

how about using the bottom of a chiken nugget box

>>19130518
OR, OORR, someone could read some Spare and Agrippa (both available completely free of cost in the /omg/ library) and actually learn some shit so they don't just make a bunch of crude chicken-scratch covered in jizz. Not that it WON'T work, but like anything, there is an art to it. The more you learn this art, the better you become and the more efective they will be. I would recommend anyone interested in sigils also look into folk magic and ceremonial magic.

>>19131569
Swallow David Griffin's jizz, anon, or you'll regret it. He was recently appointed Grand Imperator of My Taint

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>>19130518
Can I use a sigil to cure myself of an illness?

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>>19132216
> actually has the gall to quote Spare


>>19132287
yes but it takes time
you may have to do it more than once

>>19132319
>"quote"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wujVMIYzYXg

Why, who would you recommend?

>>19132287
If it's terminal, you will want something more along the lines of ceremonial magick, but only if you have completely exhausted all the medical and scientific possibilities.

>>19132319
You do know Spare is almost single-handedly responsible for the usage of sigils as "spells-in-themselves," right? Of course, if he had foreseen autists like Phil Hine and Grant Morrison jizzing on crudely drawn sketches on notebook paper, he may have reconsidered.

>>19132319
No answer>>19132331
?

>>19131237
quite good actually.
image you ARE the tv and you are projecting images outward. As a hologram.

>>19130782
Bravo. I like your attitude.
May your assailants suffer Belial's torment indefinitely.

Stuff doesn't work.

I still do it once in a while, because I'm past the point of no return.
Y'know, the feeling of being utterly convinced that something is real with nothing, not even blatantly opposite results, being able to sway your view?
That's my relation to sigil magic.

But it never works.
Never did.

Oh well.

>>19130710

Wait, I thought all sigils must be destroyed in some way to release the spell? I thought that by carrying it around you are hampering the magic.

Destroying it and attempting to forget about it completely means that you set it into motion.

>>19130747

female figure, creative, probably plays an instrument and sings, is outgoing, vocal, expressive, bright, witty, loud. slightly masculine

>>19130518
I tried many times and it didnt work. I just cant put my mind in a meditative state, the beat i can do is that state of daydreaming before i fall asleep. Fapping didnt work either

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Gonna try this shit, if its gonna work ill shit bricks

>>19132862

It's best to not let others see it

>>19132918
why is that?

>>19132850
since they don't seem to work for you, what exactly where you aiming for?

>>19132922

Because it is a personal request between you and the universe. Having others to see your personal requests taints and colors the relationship. If it is not a very important sigil to you then it is not as important.

>>19132939
is there a specific pattern to follow or do you just combine the letters in anyway that looks mystical?

>>19133203
Literally no rules. Just make it a simple symbol that is easy to memorize.

>>19133221
im bad aat memorizing. i made one in paint so can i use that later as a reference to freehand draw it in real life? or does it have to be burned after you design it or drawn only from memory.

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>>19130518
Ive been doing sigils for a bit now, not nearly as long as most but I've made progress, this is my latest one using some tips from this thread, its to find me my dream girl, I've learned that putting it on my skin makes it stronger and faster working

>>19133253
These scrubs are the hardcore fuck bois who think there's strict guidelines,you don't have to memorize or forget anything, draw it, burn it (if you want) then piss off, the way it works is, whatever you believe will work

Should I destroy the sigil after charging it or destroy it once it come true ?

>>19133203

Make it very personal. It's kind of like creating a mini work of art, putting your heart and soul into it... and then destroying it so that only the Universe can see.

>>19133278

Now destroy it. Burn your hand.

>>19130518
Do i need to draw it and burn it every day or just one time to charge it?

>>19130518
i used an orgasm to charge my sigil. not sure if it worked. i didn't have a specific goal it was more of a general improvement of my grades, and im not back in school so i have no idea if it worked.

>>19133291
this.
anything goes.

I'll second this, it's pretty easy and works

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>>19132802
This describes the girl i want, fuck off you negromancer, ill curse your gameboy

Is it possible to use sigils to influence the physical/biological body? If so, what are the limits?

Examples:
Increasing health/vitality.
Attaining physical attributes.
Removing unwanted physical attributes.

>>19130805
Depends on the intent of the sigil and what you want to use it for. For utilitarian sigils that you want to just use some of the energy you have put into it, keep it around. If you want to dump all that energy at once into it's intended use, destroy it.

>>19135129
Yes to the first two definitely.

can you use them to be able to not need as much sleep and still feel completely rested?

>>19135163
To what extent though?
By extent I mean could I make a sigil merely for things like increasing physical appearance & health to making a sigil that goes so far as to influence genetics.
Is this possible?

>>19135191
That depends on you for both of those. By physical attributes, I though you meant like speed, strength or senses. That's possible too.

>>19130518
This better not be bullshit or roleplay anon, you have me interested.

>>19135222
I can confirm that it's not bullshit and works. OP's sigil looks pretty pleb tier though. Not trying to be dick, OP. Just being honest.

>>19135212
Yeah that is pretty much what I mean, I just didn't want to pursue things that were out of reach.

Anyways, if I were to create a sigil that increases speed, strength or senses etc. Would the effects be permanent or would I have to create a new sigil every so often so that the effects don't go away?

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here is a drawing based technique I have been attempting to develop

one way of describing this is imprinting on yourself, but the concept of imprinting by nature involves force. like a nail you pound the idea into your mind through focus. the sigil technique is extremely elegant, and what it is is an ingenious focus device.

however, another way of describing this process is what I would describe as consummating desire. credit to Austin Osman Spare for this entire line of thinking.

if you strive to consummate desire, rather than to imprint, it is not a process of force, but rather a concept of mental play-- rather the opposite of focus, the opposite of force.

for example, you could draw a picture that consummates your desire. in the moment of pleasure you receive by this simulation, you already have your goal merged in the mind.

>>19135279
That would be an instance when you don't want to destroy it. Keep it around and keep it charged. The effects are going to be temporary usually.

>>19135293
I must add, the real essence of what Austin Osman Spare, the man who invented sigils, taught, is really that there is no difference between these two ideas-- the conscious imprinting and the unconscious release, the putting in of will, and the removal of desire.

This is the meaning of burning a sigil at the moment of exhaustion. You are taking something out while you are putting something in.

These techniques should not be expected to be effective unless they feel like art when you do it. The sigil method actually works because it is a form of consummation. It is a form of art.

But anon, I did this once and the equivalent exchange bullshit fucked me up.


Can you get me learned on EE?

Can I make a sigil to boost my magical power?

Can I make a sigil to improve my eyesight? How should I word it

>>19135503
dont exchange.
just make one

>>19135564
>>19135567
yes, go for anything, but expect results to vary the harder the achievement

>>19130518
you're essentially just using an autistic form of will magic, which is also the most autistic form of magic and it doesn't even work half the time.

>>19135595
you typed autistic form of will magic twice, are you autistic?

>>19133278
>>19133340
How do you charge it?

>>19136000
he faps

>>19136000
Noob way is to jack off while visualising it and then cumming on it. Check the occultism and magick general

>>19131237
What is that picture ?

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>>19135567

the specific vision capability that you want
if you want slightly better than average eyesight then "Twenty Fifteen" would be a good idea.

>>19133879
>>19133322

destroy it after charging it, dont let it sit around long (maybe 10 mins after charging it at the most)

just once, but if its something that takes incremental boosts or you're not able to put enough energy into it, you may have to do it again later one like a couple months down the road

>>19133221
Hey Bannon I got a question, lets say I want to rapid fire these things to deal with different scenarios going on all at once...

You think it works if I do several of these in series or before some of them come to pass? For different subjects of course, but like, multitasking.

My life isnt stable so, now that im bothering to do this, I might as well hit as much different stuff at the same time as I can.

(does that work or do the wires get crossed?)

>>19132862
>>19132918
>>19132922
>>19132939
>>19133203
>>19133221
>>19133337

Thats a nice symbol actually, too bad its ruined because it was shown.

However - go ahead and draw it again, except this time draw it upside down. And dont you dare talk about it or show it (dont even tell us "its done", just keep your mouth quiet).

That ought to make it work anyway since its technically a different symbol that does the same thing, and will remain private.

Yeahh one big rule to magick is you generally dont tell anyone what you're doing, its even bad to brag about having cast a spell (even if you're not saying what it was or what it was aimed at).

Its like having a pinata with gooey stuff in it and every time you breach secrecy about it, that pinata takes a whack and leaks a little. Maybe busts altogether. But left alone, it does its work.

>>19130518
>This shit works. I went from suicidal depressed neet tranny camwhore on hormones to realising the only thing worth identifying as is a human and a wizard. I now have a job and a girlfriend and I'm slowly climbing my way upwards to new heights.
You don't sound like someone I should listen too

>>19136942
seriously its alpha af to be able to stack the deck in your favor without hardly taking any action at all

thats how you make billions buddy, you dont think those rich fucks just happened to have all those golden opportunities do you?

I mean yeah they worked at it and went through the motions, but magic is what will make the doors open

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>>19136022
>>19136023
>>19136000

nice zeroes there

the point of charging it is to take that symbol and put spiritual energy into it, and along with it a little bit of your own thoughts about what its for and what its supposed to do (some context)

these things will program it and give it the strength to do its job after you've released it

"vigorous focus" is what I use but whatever will add enough spiritual energy should do the trick

fapping is one way but that might actually color the energy in a certain way, still as long as it gets the job done I guess it doesn't matter how it ends up coming about

If I may suggest:
Putting it between your hands like you were Praying innately causes energy to move between your hands. Spend a few minutes doing that and it might be good enough - then burn it and discard the ashes (and try to forget about it).

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>>19135503
>>19135580

> 2017
> still having karma when the means to remove it is easily had
> still believing in equivalent exchange

Flame Yourself

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>>19137394
I surrounded the sigil I made with others to help power it, its love related so charging with a wank works very well, here's a picture of my arm

>>19137528
It'll probably work (?) guess it depends on how well you believe it.

>>19130710
your sigils are really complicated...

Don't use the word "will"

>>19137536
the image I posted wasnt ones I made, they were just examples from google

yeah I agree about the word "will", the term is rather speculative and puts things in the future while... end results are always supposed to be in the present or the past

unless you're trying to engender some kind of behavior change such as "I will not say cuss words", though thats still sorta a double negative

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>>19130777
you seem really knowledgeable on this subject. What if you just wanted to change facial appearance,height, or even personality? I had this idea of drawing a idea version of yourself or creating a character that emulates that desired appearance/personality. Do you think if you just envisioned changing into that form you will? It's less about aspiring to emulate a figure, and more about becoming them. Probably sounds crazy but I thought it was worth a try.

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>>19137528
>bread with ketchup

>>19130518
Is there a sigil that can cure herpes?

Asking for a friend...

>>19137969
There was a hotdog on it

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A sigil for helping one obtain lucidity while dreaming or an OOB.

>>19130782
To answer, WROL is Without Rule of Law ( I think), and LOA is the Law of Attraction. LOA basically states by taking the mindset that something is already in your life is in your life, the universe will make it so that that thing will enter your life.

>>19130518
How does one make a sigil? Is charging it as simple as say, a drop of blood or meditating on it and it's intended purpose?

If it's already been discussed in thread would appreciate links. starting from the top rn

>>19138515
You can do a lot of things. Charging can be masturbating while focusing on the intent and image of the sigil, meditating on it, or doing whatever it is you need to do to make it feel "final" and full of energy. Even imagining it glowing white/blue/purple can be enough for some people

>>19138515
Just read ops post he even tells you how
>>19130518

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>>19130518
Praise KEK

As if I'd try that devil magic! Get this crud out of here!

>>19130518

>You can also charge it while fapping (burn the symbol at the moment you come)
holy shit, that's fucking hot.

>>19130710

>One of them was literally - I took an old red candle with dust on it, jacked off on it, mentally programmed it to bring someone my way who was a milf/cougar (dusty old candle = older). Mental image I used was jamie lee curtis. About 3 weeks later I met a 40yo lady for FWB that looked very similar to her, and she remarked that yeah people have said she looks kinda like her.
WTF why is this sexy to me? Are there a ton of guys like you on /x/? lol

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>>19138580
>browsing x
>Wants the devil magic out of here

choose one

>>19130518

Thanks for posting this, OP

>>19135179
It'll work for a while but take a toll eventually. I don't see people saying often enough here that nothing is free. You always have to pay a price for every choice you make and everything you do. Pay up front or pay later with interest. It's just the nature of our universe.

>>19132802
Huh, sounds like me. Too bad I'm still stuck in a guy body, aha.

>>19138604
I kid you not, I would have gotten married to her if she was open for it, I was kinda falling in love with her. However it was just an FWB, which we spent a surprising amount of time getting to know each other for.

Unfortunately we only did it once, and it didn't go like I wanted it to. But I think for her it didn't go the way she wanted it to either (she was a queen of oral, I could tell, but im one of the rare guys who doesn't like oral and I cant help that).

Had anything of that arrangement been different we could've probably gone to a real relationship. I don't think it had anything to do with the spell, maybe just bad timing for doing anything more.

And as far as cougar... man... when she got me in the hotel room and took her glasses off I immediately felt like I was prey that she had captured, it was kinda intimidating but in such a good way.

Unless she was telling the truth about finding an actual relationship just after we got together (probably not)... its not so much that I didn't please her, but that maybe it wasn't what she was hoping for and me in return.

Sweet lady though, very affectionate and good head on her shoulders. Would fall in love again 7/10.

(too bad love spells wont just yank someone back who you had before even if you used a spell to find them the first time)

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>>19137933
Personality yes.

What you're talking about with envisioning a form is only part of it - and you would be best to communicate with your Higher Self to make sure that template is produced/created.

The problem has to do with creating the physical change, which must be done supernaturally. Neither me or you know the rituals, words of power, preparations or other requirements in order to Induce Shapeshifting to cause it.
> though I do know generally how that goes, I have no specifics

Just like I explained in the Vamp thread about carefully crafted black magic to turn one's self into a vampire (with fangs) - this sort of thing involves "real magic" just like the stuff out of a fantasy movie. Which actually is real, but all of it has been lost in one way or another on earth, so there is nowhere to find that knowledge.

> one nifty thing about "real magic" is it doesn't matter whether you believe it or not, if you say the words and draw/imagine the specialized sigils for it - it will work.
> We're talking about instant changes here, making summoned objects appear in a box, combat spells that can cause an object to break instantly or make a lock simply fall off a hinge.

Law Of Attraction or even the Sigil magic being described in this thread works with possibilities and opportunities.

What happens if there are no opportunities in the stack? When there is literally no action you can take to put yourself in the path of it, when there is nobody who has the knowledge you seek, and there are no books that contain it?

Not that something is impossible because it literally is not real, but because there is no direct way for it to be achieved?

Now you're talking about the work that ive been doing for years.
> that ive been doing for years
> for years

Eventually means and methods can be drawn your way... but it really has to be imported/piped in from the outside or unlocked so they can be accessed.

To first Produce the opportunities. So they can then be encounterd.

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>>19138294

Yeah but they'll have to make it themselves. They'll have to put alot of power in it. They may have to do it again if they don't notice any changes within a couple months (that doesn't mean that nothing was going on).

The Belief side of the equation is that the Body is capable of (biokinesis) intelligently acting to remove threats and correct itself even if its subset biology doesn't have a clue. The workings of the beast as a whole unit rather than just its parts.

You could cure almost anything in the body this way, up to and including aids and cancer.

But because of our (spiritual) genetics our bodies tend to be pretty lazy about this, so it will take some extra energy/focus

Doing a spell/sigil like this will most likely work to activate this aspect of the Body rather than seek the right kind of medicine or treatment out in the external world (since very few, if any possibilities exist in that stack).


This may take awhile so he should give it 2 Months before checking (doctor checkup).

He should also be wary of the lesions just disappearing because if that happens it could be that he's still got herpes but the spell just made all of his outbreaks cease for the time being.

He needs to be very clear that this is to eradicate it completely (in fact becoming immune to it).

Immunity is such a knock-down to a condition that its probably what he should be going for with making his sigil.

The thing that baffles me is how to reference Herpes without calling it what it is directly. Since he's got it, he doesnt want to rienforce the notion of what it is, but he needs to clearly reference it.

There can be no hiccups with this, or it will power-leak

Im thinking referencing STD, and putting this in "small letters", at the bottom of the sigil (as if it is under the power of this spell) may be a good way to reference.

If he had any other STDs unknowingly this would hit those too, but since he only has one that means the full power is aimed at that one.

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>>19138360

Nice, but you'll have to redraw it in some way with slight differences now that you've shown us.

Rather interesting that you posted this because it reminds me Exactly of the kind of symbols used in Real Magic spells of the kind ive referenced here
>>19140440
>>19130777
which I got nice triples from too

Real Magic involves using a special Sigil combined with a unique phraise (which is language-neutral), which both work together. Whether you believe in it or not, it works if you say the word while firmly visualizing the symbol that goes with it.

This is lightning bolts kinda stuff.

The Sigils we're working with here are just custom designed to carry our will/intention, they dont have any power beyond that.

But the Sigils and symbols used for real magic - while I wouldn't say they are custom designed, there is forseeably an infinite number of combinations to them. It has to work with the unique Phraise that goes along with them.

It is a sort of language of its own - magic - but it doesn't have any alphabet to it. A living language I guess you could say.

Out there beyond this planet there are entire cultures obsessed with developing magic like this, those are the kinds just like fantasy stories who would have libraries full of scrolls and tomes. Because that's Their Technology, rather than gadgets and machines they just make reality bend itself to their choosing, using this technique-logic instead.

> There used to be a kind of Men In Black on this planet that would go around policing any uses of Real Magic on earth... sort of like the Ministry Of Magic from harry potter.

> They are one of the reasons why we don't have any solid examples of this being used, except sometimes in myths.

> Having that much personal power threatens the establishment when you can start providing for yourself rather than relying on society's resources.

> That group is gone, but the knowledge is still missing.

> There are people on earth who know magic, but they're hiding

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>>19138561

>>19138507
correct and correct

without rule of law is a situation frequently discussed on /pol/ and /k/ where the status quo of normal daily life is disrupted, banks are closed, businesses may or may not function, and supplies run low

(combined with police enacting curfews to cut down on rioting, and martial law being established by the military in cities for the same reason)

The reason why WROL will allow Real Magic to be brought back is because in the chaos that follows people will be openminded enough to listen. And the people who hold that information will be free to start teaching what they know to others without fear of a backlash.

More or less it destroys the crooked Mass Media, and with (those truth-sayers) out of the way most of the secrets that are being withheld from the public will be able to jump the fence.

Not just all the classified junk, but also any hidden knowledge floating around like magic, which anyone might be willing to teach.

Having everything change is worth a short period of Mad Max.

>>19136910
try it. report back. experiment. stay vigiliant. wierd shit might start happening, in a good way. glitches in the matrix.

>>19140922
thanks ill try it

>>19140415
they can actually.
if you work through obsession.
as long as you have something of hers and a method of contact at least.

>>19130782
>I was raped in a black magic ritual as an 10 month old baby were they attached some demon to me.

And you know this how?

>>19141731
I have neither and it was 2009. I remember her name but she might've gotten married and changed her last name.

She was 40 then so she's 48 now. No difference imo.

However ive got so much shit going on now that relationships... well lets say I am super taken even though im not together with anyone (twin flame stuff).

In fact pretty much any sigils I made right now would be to get the current existing connection finalized and hooked up so I can get everything I want. Though... focusing on different things to get completed really just draws the whole thing to me, even though im technically focusing on different aspects.

Normally I wouldnt have considered doing something as basic as this sigil stuff, since I could just telepathically ask these folks to (come in and rescue me). But anything that will break the stalemate im up for.

Be warned, SIGIL magic is basically "sell soul lite". An entity will attach to you to fulfill your wish but it will have an irritating cost.

>>19141770
Be warned, you have no idea what you are talking about

>>19140509
fascinating stuff anon, thanks for sharing! I'll see how much progress I can make with just sigils and visualization. Thanks again!

>>19141770
yeah but there's no bargain or agreement made, its all personal magic

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>>19130518
can you lads hit me up with some charging help?

>>19141747
Twin flame gtfo tell me

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>>19130518
just a quick repair to my phone

Sigils is literally normies magick.
>Hurr if you do this it will happen!
>Implying some virgin neet making a sigil to find a gf will actually have one magically appear for him

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>>19144389

>Sigils is literally normies magick.
Pretty sure Sports is normie magick, fool.

>>19144427
A large part of this sigils "coming true" is placebo, and really only effective if you can have this shit come to you normally anyway.

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>>19144264
>>19144379
What the fuck. Those are the JUST meme of sigils. Someone please shoop the hair on top of these. You're not ready for this, anon.

Dumbass. All good people who tried magic will tell you to NEVER try it. Check out Christopher Lee, he talked about it in a lecture.

Magic is much weaker than what you can do when you stick close to God.

>>19130518
Happy merchant with nice tits holding a dollar.

>>19145013
Demiurge edition.

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>>19144270
come again?
she's the other half of my spirit

Technically me and her are both godshards (an obscure term), we're part of/sent by the creator of another universe. I wouldnt exactly call me and her "god" but we have its dna within our soul.


>>19144434
actually it, like candle magick and other forms, really stacks the deck in your favor

In d&d terms its like saying your d20 will only roll 17-20 for the given task.

Also it can bring you closer to getting what you want by unlocking the opportunities, even if it doesn't actually connect you with them (hitting it a second time may finally open those doors).

Additionally it gives you a buffer to store up and deliver this energy in one shot. The wiccans use the ritual circle to store up energy to be released. Its much more effective when done that way so that the intentions aren't so diffuse.

And anyway the reason why I havent used magick/sigils in a long time is because normally I just communicate with my Higher Self and say "Hey bud, id really like to do X thing so if you could, see if you can arrange it, kthxbye"

And he does.

Im tellin ya when you get merged more with your Higher Self it can start controlling your path so you just walk right into the shit you need and you didnt even know you needed it.

And when your subconscious is awake, subliminals are a thing of the past.

>>19144928

God/deity provides these systems and tricks so we can solve our own problems without bothering it for its help. Duh.

Its not god's fault that you burned the books and killed the witch doctors that it arranged for your ills and problems to be solved.

God is kinda/sorta distant even though its in everything. You are petitioner number (among zillions) and you should be able to take care of yourself. Divinity assigns helpers to take care of these tasks anyway - angels and lesser gods, but they've got other jobs to do than necessarily help you.

Thats why magic almost always works, but prayers far and few between.

Ooh I just got some nifty old blue cardstock from the local library (old card catalog stuff they're throwing out)

This ought to be perfect to put sigils on.

>>19145454
godsharts
lol.
seriously tho, is there that deep a connection for a one night stand?

>>19146480
who says we've been intimate, or that we've even physically touched...

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>>19146489

>Unfortunately we only did it once, and it didn't go like I wanted it to.

>she was a queen of oral, I could tell, but im one of the rare guys who doesn't like oral and I cant help that

> its not so much that I didn't please her, but that maybe it wasn't what she was hoping for and me in return.


are you LARPING boy?!

>>19146610
no actually
not sure how I could prove it but im not lying

she's also the only woman who's given me oral, ive had a couple girls offer or mention it but I turned them down. I go limp when it comes to that, im only interested in vaginal sex (only).

and I also dont get it either, what the appeal is, the fact she could bite feels threatening and im more interested in Kissing her lips (not having my penis in them).

The reason I described her as such is because she said she had alot of experience doing oral with her ex husband, and she was trying really hard to get me to climax. But the sucking just made me feel numb and I couldn't stay more than about half-hard.

> also I was fixated on putting 3 or 4 creampies in her pussy, even though that wasnt going to happen, so my focus was completely somewhere else

something about her giving me oral even kept me from getting hard a second time, she offered to ride me (my fav position) but I couldnt get it up!

The messed up thing was the candle magick spell I used to attract her (didnt know of her before I did that) specifically involved me cumming on the candle. I would expect cum exposure would have been involved for the final result, but no.

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>>19146669
hmm
penetration = sex
no matter how pathetic and unsatisfying

how old are you even?
sounds like you better stick to jizzing on candles m8
seriously, are you larping?

>>19146714
im 35, was 27 then, like I said near the beginning of the thread ive been with 6 women

Even though ive had sex, to me it needs to be satisfying, I really need to get what I want and in a good abundance to it (20, 30, 40 times bareback? its not much honestly because many couples do it bareback regularly).

After that I believe I will achieve some balance with my sexuality and I wont be plagued with it much.

> the soul has desires not just the brain, if it doesn't get what it wants it will autistically screech about it, dominating other areas of life even
> the buddhists had it wrong about suppressing desire, it just makes it multiply

>>19146752
then wtf is this
>>19146489

some kind of telepathic twin flame shit out of nowhere and then you're a virgin and then you're not?

>>19146795
i'm not even that guy, but you need to step up your reading comprehension game. his "twin flame" or whatever the fuck is an entirely separate person than the cougar he almost dicked

>>19130533
I've been meditating for the past month and I still can't get a completely clear mind, can you help me?

>>19146801
there seem to be a myriad of implications at work here and I would like to know what they imply and how that is relevant to sigilwork.

>>19146795
...she doesn't care if I see other people
also who says she's in physical form
> also who says she cant manifest here in some way

you'll find that beings who aren't from earth also aren't indoctrinated into the same morals, values, and even perceptions of relationship requirements (why is marriage required? whats wrong with having multiple partners who all know its going on? people outside of this planet dont have these problems we do...)

> tl;dr - she's always watching, kinda like a spirit guide.
> should I post a picture? no I don't think they'd care anyway even if you attached your energy to it... it'd just be some pic i grabbed off the internet anyway

>>19146804
relevant to sigil work? well this is something that sorta branched out from there and I keep getting badgered about questions so I keep answering them. Maybe if I answer enough of them no matter how off topic it goes you'll finally believe me.

the implication is the lady I met in 2009 I could have arranged by casting a Sigil just as well as I could have with candle magick

that is pretty much candle magick == sigil magick, they're just done in slightly different ways

(candle magick auto-charges the symbols and intention put on it, because the candle's flame empowers spiritual energy on the subject, and when it flickers out the energy is released)

>>19146840
more implications.
no one said marrying invisible friends yeah,
nor anything about manifestations.

the second part we all heard.

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>>19146860

I know

> pic is from google but it represents her pretty well, maybe she will attach her energy to it
> people talk about demon things attaching to them through magic, but when it happens to be your soulmate there isn't any way to push them away
> they just get deeper and deeper under your skin
> ie, she found me, in this life

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>>19146889
ok, whatever you say.

>>19144914
>not exclusively shitposting on /x/

1) Can I make more than one petition in one sigil? or will it be with low energy and probably manifest?

2) Can I make a sigil of sometime that will happen in two years from now? or does it have to be in a inmediate future?

3) Does it get negative karma?

Please answer fellow anons, I will appreciate it a lot.

Thanks

>>19147056
1 - Probably not, you dont want to tie up multiple different requests under the same thing, it just confuses the energy and keeps it from being released (even after you release it). "Cross purposes" even if they are different.

2 - If its being planned for years from now go ahead, no time better than the present to get it rolling

3 - No, and spells like these usually cant interfere or mess with someone else's life so even trying to use it like black magic just wouldn't work.

Sigils are really easy, find your way to do them and they're working magic with minimal efforts. They have a downside in my experience though, the results comes with something bad linked to it. I'll explain.
In my life I've done only 2 sigils so far, one to find a girlfriend and one to keep doing something that was really important to me but almost impossible to carry on.
The first had more or less this intention: Make me find a girl who loves me, who I can love back and have a durable relationship with.
Here's what happened: some months later one of my few female friends confessed to me, I didn't feel nothing for her but i was shocked since she was the first so i couldn't bring myself to reject her.
The day after I moved to another city, it was the first relationship for both of us but shit happened to me and we couldn't matain it. She suffered a lot, I suffered a lot and it didn't end well either. All the points I asked for were granted, but everything else went awfully.
The second sigil had this intent: Allow me to stay in the school theater group.
Here's what happened: The year I did this in nothing bad came along, the year after i fell in love with a new girl, went past my protective walls (reinforced by my experience with the previous sigil) and made her my hope.
One day I found some courage within myself and was about toask her out when she casually told me she was a lesbian, and completely destroyed my heart.
That year i failed and had to stop going to school completely for financial issues.
Iasked to continue with the group, and I did so for 2 years; a really big heartbreak and my drop out from school came with it.
If you do a sigil don't be fooled by it's simplicity: choose your words wisely because whatever you're binding to your will is seeking revenge

>>19147395
this is something going on with you personally, you may have a curse on you from some time in your past - there are other things that can cause this too but whatever would be doing it is unlikely to have gone away

this isnt the way things usually are

you might want to do a sigil to destroy whatever forces are holding you back in your life (sorta dividing by zero on this dynamic)

>>19130518
Once I charge my sigil, should I destroy it at once or wait till my wish is fulfilled and then destroy it ?

>>19147429
I never thought about that. I've always seen myself to not be enough important to be cursed but I guess it's worth a try! Thanks Anon, you gave me a good advice

Hello.

Skeptic here.

Gonna need some proof/tutorial on this shit, I've seen a LOT of funny shit on Youtube like 'how to cast magic using menstrual blood' and honestly it doesn't fill me with much hope that any of this magic exists.

But hey, if you can help me make it happen, then I'll happily renounce my skepticism.

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>>19147684
This will not work for you due to your Disbelief. In order for it to work you need to have a rather healthy openminded approach and willingness to believe in it a little bit.

Due to metaphysics, this being an application of Will, if you don't have any belief in something then you form an emotional wall/barrier against any force being applied directly to it. Since that force will not apply towards the goal, nothing will happen.

How does it happen at all then if someone is caught in one of these self rienforcing traps?

There are other aspects of a person's mind... their subconscious... their spirit... their higher self, which have alot more power to make shit happen than the conscious mind does.

If they decide the time is right for you to go down another path... they will Veto your blocks against having things happen and Shit Will Happen that shakes your perception and makes you a believer in stuff.

Until then they may actually block these experiences, and keep you safe from being exposed to them by leading you in other directions. They cant really "cancel" someone else's magic just for your benefit to stay oblivious, but they can make sure you don't see anything... peculiar... to satisfy your need for proof.

> its easy to think of these mental aspects as an "other" but they are yourself pretty much
> as they say, we are our own worst enemy

Why would one's own spirit sabotage a person by keeping them dumb?

Well sometimes its hard to live in a world where funky shit happens, and nobody else believes it. It can also be a major distraction, just like being "redpilled", that can cost you girls and jobs.

>>19147702
Its not that I don't disbelieve it, I am a pretty open minded person, but like...my mind is telling me 'come on, someone would have noticed there was magic at work here!' if you know what I mean?

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use this as a sigil

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>>19147717
actually try this

>>19147723
if you fuck with this the wrong way you're going to get hurt by the way so be respectful

>>19141770
Is this true?

>>19147731
no if you know what you're doing youre good dont buy into this fear mongering shit

>>19147713
The way this kind of magic works is by shifting and aligning opportunities in subtle ways, it can also perform some minor physical adjustments but those require more power and take at least as long.

That is, read the examples in this thread especially the ones that Bannon posted.

After making up a sigil and executing it... coincidentally some time later the intention behind it creates a solid opportunity.

The problem you mention with a lack of popularity with people getting results is... there are some people who dont like the idea of this working (particularly religious types). And there are some people who dont care whether results are being had or not, they just don't believe its possible (and skeptics themselves trying something half-assed, and like I explained, they get no results because of disbelief). There's no conspiracy there, thats just personal bias working on a large scale. So public opinions being censored from reaching any sort of consensus is a thing.

My breakthrough into spiritual stuff like this occurred back in 2002, I was openminded like you but skeptical about how things worked. There was a psychic lady giving free readings at an event and I got in line to go see her. I had a question in mind that I didn't reveal to her, and when she drew the runes and laid them out she was telling a story that matched exactly the question I had (there's no way she could have known) - also part of it covered the past history of the subject too and that was accurate as well.
> then again I found a real psychic, not all of them are real

>>19147713
Like, seriously, I want to learn how to do this stuff, I just don't know where or how to start! I've led a pretty...mundane life I suppose?

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>>19147717
>>19147733
muh digits

have another

>>19147717
>>19147723
>>19147728
you must mean to Charge the sigil, not to use it as one correct?

>>19147731
no, its religious bs
even hindus and shintos have myths about people using magic

>>19147740
no i meant use it as one there are gods powering those crystals

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>>19147746

>>19147734
Alright so.

Say I wanted to make a sigil for 'I will come into great monetary wealth' thats possible, because it can do things like me winning the lottery, or winning on a scratch card, or whatever like that, opening an opportunity for me.

If I made a sigil for 'Help me get into shape faster' then thats a 'minor physical adjustment' as you put it, but stuff like full-body changes and whatnot is beyond us?

>>19147787
from past experience ill say that wont work because you're competing against the will of over 100 million other people for the same scrap of meat, even if your sigil has a little more power to it, its not going to change much


go for things that dont require competition, like getting something you want either free or for a damn good deal - or finding a girlfriend - or finding a better job - or in your case just do one for having some (safe) paranormal shit start happening around you that you cant explain

idea is to summon things from this world to more easily cross your path, or just fall in your lap

the one I did recently which appears to be working, is to straighten out a spaghetti mess of a situation on my end... all sorts of information is coming out of the woodwork now to help put things in order, though its still not quite fixed yet

>>19147830
So I need to do something more specific to myself?

Alright, what's that you mentioned about safe paranormal shit? Do you mean like...lightbulbs turning off on their own and stuff like that? Or more like...stuff moving on its own for no reason?

>>19147848
just keep it basic and open ended, that way fucked up stuff can find you instead of you deciding exactly what it has to be

>>19147863
Alright, I'm going to make a sigil in the way Bannon described at the top of the thread, I'll do it tomorrow because it is quite late.

I think I'll just go for the standard 'find a girlfriend' one, just to see how it goes.

New to sigils here, and I've got a couple of questions:

1. How exactly would I know that a sigil is charged? Is it just a matter of guessing?
2. Is there a size limitation to the sigil? Can one be too small to have any effect?

>>19136910
>Thats a nice symbol actually, too bad its ruined because it was shown.
Please explain how McDonald's Golden Arches keeps working. Please explain how Hitler's Swastika keeps working.

>>19147429
I'm reading and I came across this message it's funny you mention curses...lately like the last 1-2 years I have been feeling like I have been cursed. Either myself of genealogical there was a curse placed upon. How do I know for sure and how do I get rid of said curse?

Is it safe to make sigils if one is cursed with another entity?

join the marines

>>19148107
I've just read most of the thread and I'm surprised at the lack of posts about protective measures.

If you do sigils, and you don't want bad things happening, make sure to also do banishings. The most common way to banish is the Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram (LBRP)

This will also lift curses, but I'm not an expert in the matter.

>>19147787
As mentioned several times early in the thread, you should choose your words with care.

>'I will come into great monetary wealth'
is not effective, because you're placing your intended outcome in the future. You will ever be in the 'coming into', when you want to be in the 'already achieved' state. Better ways to phrase your intent would be
>I will to stay in monetary wealth and enjoy it
>I am financially independant

>>19148239
Do a triangle and try to collect four

>>19144928
thats why are good and devote people suffering JUST they stick to a religious message. I`ve seen people get fucking delusional with religion even trying to justify their suffering theologically and enduring it to the day they died.

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>>19130518
here is one for a girlfriend ware it on your neck and be respectful

>>19130518
prolly dummy question

would saying the same things in different ways give different results?

ex: "i will get a bj from gf in a month"
instead saying "i will cum in gfs mouth in a month", would it give me a higher/lower chance of getting what i intended? or will it fuck something up somehow?

Once I charge the sigil how can I make it more powerful taking the gnosis from other people? I remember reading something like that, a guy charged his sigil going to a concert and shit. Any idea or experience?

>>19148798
it is also valid to say I will cum in my gfs mouth for a month.
or year.
what have you
or just cum everyday.
Just beware if you like kissing and not tasting semen.

Can I use a sigil for help with making an important decision? I'm not sure if I should apply for a PhD or not.

>>19149082
divination would be better suited for decision making.

>>19148912
anyone?

>>19149082
>>19149119
Consulting the I-Ching also works

>>19149134
You just have to attention whore it out. A pleb tactic but it works.

>>19147948
1 - There is no absolute to how much. Its a matter of how much you can put in it, which comes with skill.

2 - Kinda/sorta, its a practical issue. No clear rules on this but I would keep it within the (square/rectangular) range of 25-75mm in size.

Another charging tip that I just thought of is to take a pillow or rolled up blanket and Make Out with it like its the girl of your dreams. While holding the sigil in your right hand on the backside of the blanket. Get lost in that. All the while intending or visualizing in the back of your mind, that this energy is going into the sigil paper.

Then when you get bored, stop, and proceed with burning the sigil as usual.

>>19148098

The swastika I guess you could say is like a "circuit", there are some symbols/objects that naturally channel energy. This one if drawn correctly releases very positive energy (as a symbol it means "coming together from different purposes"). The nazis intentionally drew it cocked to the side however, and in some cases designed it backwards - the 45 degree angle version emits a negative energy that promotes war and callousness. The reversed version is profoundly negative energy ("the hounds of hell" is how id describe it) and I believe it was applied on vehicles to project that energy onto their enemies and damage morale.

MCD's symbol much like many other popular logos grows in strength or maintains because of consistent focus on it. Because its out in the open (public) its being constantly released, but for its popularity it has a net gain. They can diminish in strength, though as long as the mass consciousness keeps accessing it they keep putting energy in it. For example Nike logo had a stronger energy in the 90s than it does today, but its still there. The Sears logo used to be much stronger, now its quite weak.

>>19148239
Another decent one would be "A Big Check". With positive energy applied. That means the event that happens which involves you, and a big check, is a happy one

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>>19149082
Dont and I can tell you point blank the reason is because the world is about to change, we really are about to get the big switchover of the century.

Your PhD program will be interrupted, you may not even see your first classes. Education will be reformed and likely so will certifications. Also if you're going Medical there will be new ways of treating people (holistic, and machines), that you would have to be certified for anyway. You would be best not wasting your time with it right now.

My suggestion is to look into networking with folks because that may still be viable and worthwhile despite whatever calamity happens.

If you live in a city, move out or have an immediate plan to get out of the city (while avoiding traffic congestion). Invest in Lead too.


>>19148912
>>19149134
>>19149701
It would have to be a Public Symbol such as a Meme or similar to a company logo. Which gets into gnosis-economy since you have energy leaking but you have energy coming in.

>>19148922
>>19148798

blow
job
girl

which would actually condense down to
BJ
grl

and I would hook the g around the lower part of the B to indicate that the two are attached

(BJ girl is basically saying "thats what this girl does - she's the bj girl")

> thinking of what ive been wanting

* creampie - in her loins
* creampie queen
* forward receiver cream
* pussy guzzler

hard to indicate "over and over again" without straining or it being diverted to just drawing a real slut to me

wanting to select "creampie cathy" (a porn actress) might draw a real nasty slut - or it could just bring an older woman who always went bareback with her ex husband and loves it.

I mean think about it, out of over 200,000 women in anyone's local area how many could properly fit the bill and be single...

and also just thought of adding this symbology counting up (1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10...) around it in order to say that it keeps happening or it actually starts happening more and more with that person

>>19149890
>The reversed version is profoundly negative energy
Not sure if you got that one right. The right-facing swastika is more common in Hinduism, and the left-facing (called suastika) is Buddhist. Nazis used the right-facing, but I've heard somewhere that they used both, depending on whether they were projecting towards east (Russia) or west (France, England, etc) Remember, in the Nazis perspective, they where doing good work. It's not like Nazis got up in the morning thinking "Can't be late for work, I got a lot of evil to do today," so the idea that their symbol is profoundly negative is kind of moot. Aggressive, perhaps, but I'd think that's due to the crooked tilt, not the way it's facing.

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JG KMR BL SN

Let's do this.

>>19149934
>>19149082
I would say this falls under divination because im involved with (some things) and I conduct divination with regards to those pieces.

We are talking 1 month, 3 months, 6 months, 1 year kind of range here. Alot can happen to delay it, but thats the number of chess moves left.

By my understanding a PhD program takes a good 4 years to finish, so you are out of time. And if the SHTF didnt happen within that time period, the deteriorating economic conditions would probably interfere in your ability to complete it (ie its a really bad thing if it Doesn't happen within at least the next year - we be slow cooking like a frog right now and the heat always be going up).

> drawing a lover

If anything I think I would want a sex addict who needed to do it at least every day and wanted bareback and (with me at least) didnt honestly care if she got pregnant. Kinda like she cant stand me not being inside her.

thats fairly concise too and gets to the point, and after I had such a person come in my life I think id make another one (since she's open to my influence) to help secure the relationship so that it got diverted away from any FWB or fling intentions she might have had coming into it.

> do you know what you're asking for?
> do you understand how taxing that can be to live up to her demands?
Yeah, whether it was a chore or not I would just remember how long I went without sex before.

How far can sigil Magic go? Like wanting someone to be attracted to me, a perticular person. May or may not be in a relationship already

>>19149947

A certain kind of spiritual reading technique for gaging the ambient vibration of things puts the frequency of the Swastika as such. Each compared to the frequency of an average person, doing average daily stuff:

Properly Drawn:
100 times Positive energy

45 Degree Tilt:
1/10 times Negative energy

Inverted:
100 times Negative energy

* Though if the buddhists believe they are drawing it properly even though its backwards, their intention to draw it properly overrides that.

* A little bit of Intention goes along way when it comes to the initiation of a symbol.

I guess its kinda like when you draw an Inverted Cross, are you doing it for the satanic idea, or just because you think its edgy - or are you simply drawing a symbol for a Sword?

I prescribe to the "bovis unit" method of using intuition or dowsing to measure spiritual frequencies.

There's some scale people have started using that goes from 0-1000 but I feel that one is pretty inaccurate and only caters to percentages of maximum. Whereas the one I use gages the real world actual amount (and has no limit in either direction).

My energy frequency range goes from about -700,000 bv up to 2,500,000bv (due to 7th ray violet fire usage)

My Twin Flame however is very dark, but she can raise her energy up to roughly normal human levels so me and her can interact without it being too abrasive. I think one reason she's here besides me is to start devouring negative energy in the environment, if only to deprive it from the negative controlling forces here.

Most common people reside in the range of about -40,000bv to 50,000bv and usually stick to around 7000-14000. This doesn't concern the amount of power, only the frequency that it has.

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>>19149962

No, as with all love spells, you dont select individual people. Unless they're already open to your influence (which could mildly be considered a curse or binding). Since they arent open to your influence it will cause nothing but complications.

Instead you can craft a Sigil/spell to bring about a relations/hip with someone who matches their description closely.

Its kinda like an ancient aliens pose but since its not directly targeting them it has a chance to work.

> to make someone attracted

There is a Technique called Remote Seduction which you should look into.

More or less through RP masterbating and making out (like, with a rolled up blanket) you will be "charging" that Person with your sex vibes rather than a symbol.

> the difference is it feels a little less pleasurable, but more intense, since you arent enjoying those vibes yourself - you are sending them like an antenna

Over time it builds up and they'll start having kinky thoughts or feelings for you. It wont Make them do anything, but it can set the foundation for them to be receptive.

If you're in a relationship you can also start doing this (privately) with regard to your Lover and it will add extra spark to the relationship, may even rekindle it if the interest is fading.

> because she just starts feeling mildly aroused about you, and then she starts feeling "the way she did when she was so hot for you" all over again

Id say this is Sigil related talk since its an example of how to charge a sigil, except you're sending that energy right into another person.

There are PDFs out there on how to do remote seduction.

In my mental images for it that I send, I try to get visceral. Like part of me is actually interacting with her and I am literally penetrating her body and reaching inside her.

Unless the person is completely blocking it (secure relationship, or they know how to block energy) it will hit them in some way and can wear down aversion.

Since im autistic/asperg but ive got a very strong connection with my Higher Self I think I might make one of these Sigils to rienforce my HS taking over for me when it comes to talking with people.

Like literally my brain is not programmed for communication, but if my own Spirit is making up for it by dropping the proper responses, questions, and helping me identify cues in realtime then I can probably scoot by when it comes to talking to girls.

> my Higher Self is Me anyway, so i'd really just be engaging more of myself in the process

I can already ask him to "take over" for important shit from time to time, but I think it should be more frequent.

>>19150395
Or maybe you should just learn how to stop thinking too much. Practice mindfulness, and let the monkey mind rest when interacting with people

>>19150407
nope never going to happen, im even like this when im out of body

besides further bridges with my HS are the kinda shit that could lead to me channeling the abilities of others

>>19130518
Before working with sigils ,look up your heritage and use your those letters . instead of Arabic alphabet and put circle squared or rectangle inside. Study spell so you know what I'm talking about
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Here's a sigil for yas

Do you have to remember the sigil after you have charged it?

I made a sigil for getting a job and decided to charge it by drawing it on a girls body and cumming on it (after fucking her)

problem is I can't get laid, I keep trying though

tomorrow I go out on a hunt again, wish my luck boyz

Swastikas are European, the oldest known Swastikas were found in an Idol 12000 years old in Ukraine.

Is not a negative symbol in any sense. Before nazis used it the symbols was found everywhere, like in buildings, talismans, clothes, jewlry...

All this "correct way to draw it" is just hindu stuff and has nothing to do in Europe, unless you want it to represent hindu stuff ofc.

hope my english is good enough.

>>19130518
If English is not my main language, does it matter if I perform the sigils using my native language? or can I use either language arbitrarily for this?

Can a sigil change the will and interests of other people?

For example, I want a girl to get interested in me since I've fallen in love with her and can't get her out of my mind. If I make a sigil to get her interested in me, will it work? Or does going against another human's will not work?

>>19150700
That is a mandala, correct?

>>19150959
very unlikely, and can drive them off instead

>>19150933
Use your native language, it doesnt matter. There are even an invented language for sigils.

>>19150933
language is arbitrary, as long as you know what it means thats fine

How do sigils interact with familiars?

To be more specific, do we have to keep our sigils hidden from them as well or does it matter? Are they able to power up a sigil on their own? Are they able to increase a sigils power/effectiveness?

>>19151027
That's what I thought... can I at least use a sigil to get to know her more? Without the falling in love desire, just want to get to know her more.

>>19151119

Just did it, put a decent ammount of energy on the sigil while doing a quick meditation, for some reason the sigil was burning on blue fire on my mind, then went on blanc, and when I felt it was charged I burned it.

I asked for a gf in 1 week, we'll see where this goes guys.

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Any of you fuck bois too lazy to make your own I'm willing to do some, I love a little practice, this is my latest, trying to get a job application through, I draw them on my arm to charge personal ones

>>19149958
>If anything I think I would want a sex addict who needed to do it at least every day and wanted bareback and (with me at least) didnt honestly care if she got pregnant. Kinda like she cant stand me not being inside her.
Woudn't that be a fuckjumble of letters?

>>19151425
no im just planning how to go about it, it would probably be something related to "creamy sex jockey"

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>>19150002
>be me
>start reading this
>seems like some woke sacred geometry type stuff
>keeps reading
>suddenly he starts talking about Dragon Ball Z power levels
>U Wot M8
>then he starts talking about what i can only assume is his Stand, or is his Digimon, or just some entity he is in contact with named "twin flame"
>uuuuuuuuuuuuh......?
>he ends it by talking about the common power level and frequency of most people

w-what did he mean by all of this?

>>19152152
its a great time to be alive m8 isnt it?

what If I just make them take a picture of them, throw them away and just jack off to the picture? Was doing that awhile and didn't notice much results. Probably because I was asking for a lot. Thinking about re doing my approach by jacking off with the physical sigil and then burning it. Anybody ever try adjusting height or appearance with sigils?

i believe i might have some form of power, can i use a sigil to improve it, without any consequences?

>>19152589
yes

>>19130710
Ive been doing this for years with the norse elder futhark. Great focusing mechanism

>>19150700
https://www.google.com/search?tbs=sbi:AMhZZivUxZqGLBvOKJDILIHygeCYyK4wwUxDOJgDhXtv_1M_1PZPo7I_1QGK54jr1a60k8ekDKmwBQmkzttBbpzfvBsMuZgJCZiZ3mMhNsXrRXrAOTBM8fhN5uHrDSVLQiF1dP7FffKPTPD76hcSKNCQF8p2AO_1czpRlY2w-BassPopx620fBYsuiJ5tlPiuwpTguQD6AJQbdAceDjFpDs4tOw9gjg5m2RVKlEYMkEugQrBTchYQ5TmvWV2KC9SnJjfrLpfOFSqkkTyA3A5hjLcHAmtUIBdTTjtByKZGfosr8pbDCAFxFI9IYExI-3sEi0ro2E4iHJao-Vp8SsnDPBwJ36O2Pb0xtqEbw

WHAT THE HELL IS THIS FUCKING SHIT.

>>19130518
I have a really honest question tho, I'm into graffiti for a long time now, and got into it before any occult stuff.
My tag is actually the name of my "alter-ego" without any vowels, and i gave it a very unique style. Everybody knows me around here nowadays wich was my original purpose, to get known.
Everyone sees it everyday and talks about, giving in energy.
Was I making sigil magic without knowing ?

tl;dr: Is tagging a form of sigil magic?

Just give me the stick figure already, OP.

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nvm made it

anyone got some good sigil tutorials?

>>19153791
bumpin for a reply

>>19153791
>>19153923
Yeah thats like mcdonalds signs. There's a little place where some people made graffiti of a face with sharp teeth and it actually took on some negative energy that reminded me of the clown from stephen king's IT.

About your graffiti it depends on what your intent/purpose was for it. You can tag like that and itll both gain power and leak it at the same time as people see it. If it was just a statement then that might gain some power but since it wasn't designed to manifest/attract anything it might not do anything. Marking your territory wouldn't really fall in that category either.

However if you wanted to spread your influence in the local community you could make up a sigil specially designed for that (written in the ebonics language, or whatever it is they use in graffiti) and that would start amplifying favor/luck in that direction for you. This be like the kinda thing that could lead to you being a gang leader or the big DJ of the area over a period of years (because your influence is "greased" for success). I dunno what your purpose is with this...

In the case of a public sign making more than one of them (like distributing a logo) would be beneficial as long as its not overdone. Same symbol each time and so on.

>>19153825
see: whole thread

since bannon made this and it got alot of, replies im probably going to set up another one and link it to make it a revolving post when it gets near limit/page10.

>>19153923
If it's working for you, why do you need validation from an occult stick figure burning forum.

To be clear, burning should drawn on paper isn't the only way. In loose terms sigils can be a dance, a song or mantra, drumming, the path you walk, a painting, the way you arrange objects (search supersigil), a fictional story you write, the way you do your dishes, etc. etc. - as long as there's intent connected to the arrangement.

t. Chaos Magick; Nothing is true, everything is permitted

>>19154277
Yes, those methods *can* certainly be used, but they aren't *sigils,* per se, as sigils are "inscribed or painted"

>>19130710
Anon more on remote seduction pls

>>19130518
Can I write sigils japanese? I'm not very good at English

for fucks sake dude, that sigil is fucking awful and these suggestions for charging a sigil are awful.

You have to feed a sigil with willpower and intent, you might end up exhausted as a result of the practice but a limp wristed fapping session or burning the sigil won't do fuck all.

>>19155251
Absolute. Any language will do, pretty much. Certain languages like Hebrew and Greek hold a certain power to them, having been used for magical purposes for so long...but then again, so does japanese.

>>19155318
>implying the script alone is inherently powerful.
k den.

>>19155320
>implying someone is implying things they are not implying.

However, if you do not think language and words have inherent power, you're gonna need to take it up with the ancient Egyptians, and just about every other advanced culture that came after them.

>>19154257
So I can use graffiti to influence my city...interesting..

>>19152152
That's demented bv for ya he is a thristy ass bitch who wants to find a magical white virgin. While he is a dirty spic he says he is white but both of his parents are from Mexico making him a fucking ugly spic his face is full of zits and he is basically an ugly manlet

>>19155397
"Languages like Greek and Hebrew have a certain power to them" provide even anecdotal evidence then. Oh wait, you can't, because it's a wild fucking implication. It is not the words themselves that have any form of power, language was developed by humans not the other way around.

>>19155885
Oh yeah Bv really denies his heritage he once called a chick a spic because she got his order wrong while he is a spic himself poor guy he is super delusional I'm glad K left him

Can sigil influence how another person think of you and how they act towards you? Or is it a self influence thing?

>>19150002
And what device are you using to measure this, pray tell? Also, you do know...nay, MUST know, that the inverted cross is used all the time in Christianity? Known as St. Peter's Cross? There's a WHOLE story behind it.

>>19155897
everyone will tell you the latter but go for it

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>>19155907
I use my intuition, I sorta play a hotter/colder game when it comes to guessing numbers.

> TL;DR - the device I use is my Heart.

I take a wild guess and then let it feedback to me how far off I am. Then I take another guess, and let it tell me how far off. Each attempt takes about 10-15 seconds, then a minor refresh between.

Eventually ill get a feeling like "ehh, iffy" because my intuition Wont give me a Yes, it just gives me a "No" and an amount of Tension feeling for how much of a No.

I will also intentionally over-guess just to let it swing back the other direction to tell me how much ive overshot it.

Many times when I get close enough my subconscious will simply chime in with a "Bingo". I picked up this trait after I had my NDE in 2004.

I can also use this technique to measure other things and pitching a very liberal estimate of something can tell me immediately if I am in the same ballpark, if it is much higher than I thought, or if ive overshot it.

Mentally I tend to count/think in Exponential terms, multiplications of two or multiplications of ten. So I may scale up by multiplications and orders of magnitude until I feel im in the right zone, then backtrack.

Unless the information is actively being Shrouded (a spiritual technique to hide information) I will usually pick it up. It doesn't work that well if im being tested by somebody, my spirit only abides practical inquiries.

In cases where I have a simple Yes/No query ive learned to use numbers, mentally imagined sliders or counting sticks, to "count up" to a number and if it manages to reach or exceed it that indicates a Yes (ie, it has enough truth to reach the goal)

Thats another thing, unlike most humans I deal in truth and freedom, they are my currency. So I find it easy to measure truth.

>>19130518
Hey when you burn the sigil, do you burn the entire paper or just a little piece of it?

can i make a sigil on the computer, charge it, and delete the jpg?
or it must be pen and paper

>>19156552
Would be more personal to do it with a pen and paper.

More personal = more potent i would imagine.

>>19156552
Yes. It doesn't really matter. But I'd wager most people like using a pen.

When using the fapping method to charge a sigil, am I supposed to be thinking about the sigil and/or the intent while fapping (or just the lewd images/feelingsI usually have to ejaculate)? am I supposed to be watching the sigil while I fap? or just when I end?

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I come onto /x/ on a whim, and just so happen to see a thread that reminds me of a coin (among others that are silver dollars, gold dollars, and other countrie's coins, but this one is not even remotely similar to any others) that my mother gave to me just last week. Does anyone know what the actual fuck this is? It's about the size of an American dime

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>>19158024
Countries*

I am here to also support sigils. Sigils don't worry about external influence or deities or spirits, so they're much safer.

I've been using sigils for a while now, albeit started recently. My life is changing. Slowly, but surely, I can attribute many victories to my sigil craft.

You lose nothing by trying!

>>19158380
Just remember that there is always a price to pay. Nothing is free.

>>19158401
I believe I've been paying.

I've read that many people use certain methods to visualize energy transfer if they have a poor imagination; one such way is blood.

The pain is worth it, though. And I'm not some fucking weirdo satanic cultist, either, making blood sacrifices. Nobody notices or cares about some thin slits on your shoulder, there's no vital vein there.

Still worth it.

>>19158448
Payment is payment.

>>19158401
>>19158464

there are no rules gtfo esusfreak

Guys, I found out my girlfriend has been writing symbols in chalk with the intention of making our family prosperous. The next day, I received $20,000 and bought a new car. Hectic coincidence but relative to thread.

>>19158472
I agree, but I figure I should put his mind at rest anyways. I don't treat it as payment, I treat it as energy transfer and charging.
>>19158485
Good for you guys!
I hope it continues.

>>19130518
i was considering getting some tattood, is this a good idea?

>>19158488
I'm spinning out. My house is full of new shit and packaging. I've had severe financial worries that have been keeping me up at night, and my old car was falling apart. It's like when I was close to a mental breakdown, and after months of having zero luck job seeking, the universe balanced itself out by giving me a lump sum. I know it's not much money, but it fixed every problem I have.

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>>19158485
fucking awesome m8

>>19130518
Corrections to OP

>Be FIRM but neutral in your requests. being too demanding or to vague or even being beggy or uncaring about your request will make it not work.make your request blunt, concise and clear.

>DO NOT ask for things that force your will on other people directly
-Girl from aprt 1 will date me
-John from work will kill himself tonight
-Dad will deposit his savings into my bank account
DON'T MAKE REQUESTS LIKE THAT BECAUSE THEY WON'T WORK OR WILL BACKFIRE

>be sure to keep re-writing out your sigil until it's burned into your brain. until you can close your eyes but still clearly see every line,angle and bend. that means it's implanted in your sub conscious (the key in how this works) than burn all of the papers you made the sigil's on. forget it consciously. the faster you forget it, the faster you can subconsciously make the spell work

>remember the context of the spell as you deconstruct it and make the sigil. and remember the context with every reiteration of it you make. don't lose focus

>>19158679
this, when I bake new bread I will include this as a refresher

>>19155897
Those are the same, if you're paying attention.

Sigils influence the subconscious, so that you might act different enough for others to start perceiving you in a new way, hence treating you better/worse.

Any experts on ritual magic?
What are dandelion seeds and rosemary flowers used for in rituals?not sure if sigil related

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>>19130518
>Crowley describes the method of how to smear sperm on a talisman/sigil in order to attract for example money. This paper is so secret that, at one time, its possession was equal with having the IXth degree O.T.O.

Was this what Crowley and Spare had a falling out about? That Spare had already figured this shit out?

>>19130518
So does it work?

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>>19130533
Nothing to lose except my valuable time and my dignity.

making very long specific requests lower the chances of this succeeding? I obviously noticed if I wrote something very long at some point the words just stop adding letters since they're being repeated.

Making it multiple times affect the chances of it succeding? or should I be doing unique sigils every time and then charge them even if it's with the same intent? Like say I want a redheaded girl to fall in love with me, should I do the sigil once, and only once, or can I keep making the same sigil, charging it, burning it, and then drawing it again, charging it, burning it, like as many times in a day I can? or if I make the sigl, charge it, then burn it, and then I make a different sigil with the same intent, charge it, then burn it, and I keep doing this for like the entire day will it have more chances of success than if I only did one sigil and burned it one time?

>>19159048
[CITATION NEEDED]

>>19159710
Depends on what you're doing. For the purposes of this thread, making multiple ones for the exact same purpose, or remaking the same one over and over, will probably decrease your chance of success. Try working with the Rose Cross Lamen thingy. Really, though, you're gonna need to learn ceremonial to accomplish anything more than mundane goals.

>>19131230
How much should a sigil be charged, and how long should one be kept, depening on its effect?

>>19159813
> the kind officer hands you a citation

Should I do anything special with the ashes after burning?

Also throwing semen on the sigil isn't a good idea... the paper won't burn if it has semen on it.

I LOVE sigils! I love making them and seeing them out in the world. I believe they are NOT "witchcraft" in any way. They are spiritual work, yes, but not Black magic. And, more than all that, they are a neat design concept.

I <*
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>>19149934
>Invest in Lead
Why lead?

>>19161255
Lead and copper are excellent and valuable building materials. If you are progressing from the stone age, with the knowledge to make things like pipe.

Grant Morrison did an amazing article on magic in this month's Heavy Metal magazine.

>>19130518
Wtf i made a sigil saying i will befriend a dragon and nothing happened

Asking again, am I supposed to do something special with the ashes? or just throw them in the garbage bin?

>>19161255
>>19161525

Bullets
And a couple good guns to fire them
(head to /k/ for more info)

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New Bread
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New Bread
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New Bread
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>>19146889
>He's been seduced by a succubus that has convinced him she is his astral waifu

>>19146802
Practice. It comes with experience, which comes with practice. It helps to start reading some material on the matter - try Robert Bruce, a cheap Kindle book on the topic, or even searching for online resources. /x/ shouldn't be your only source for information on meditation.

Initially, because I have an extremely noisy mind, I started with practice and slowly came to realized a lot of the "mental noise/chaos" was extraneous. If that's the case, meditation will require more than simply emptying your mind: you'll need to actively protect yourself from obstructive thoughts/forms as well. When meditating, also perceive yourself as cloaked in a protective shroud of whatever suits you (light, shadow, fire, ice, etc).

>>19162883
>>19146802
Oh, and don't try to force your mind "clear" of thoughts - try, instead, to simply OBSERVE your thoughts. POLR: Path of Least Resistance. Your thoughts are like a stream; before you can attempt to control them, simply flow with their current to discover where they take you. It may help to meditate on that image, actually. Perceive yourself as simply floating supine downriver as you observe your thoughts freely.

>>19132783

Same here, i've tried it multiple times but it's never worked.

>>19159240
"dignity" LOL

What if I make a sigil that says I will stop being socially awkward?

>>19159813
http://www.parareligion.ch/spermo.htm
it may be a stupid question, but I'm wondering if it was. they broke up before the OTO was even founded though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUHQWFhOqtY

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>>19146802
there is an emotional craving to think.
you are addicted.
when you think a thought, there is a narcissistic satisfaction, a sense of control over your world.
your thoughts aren't special, they aren't you, they have no meaning, and they have no value.
let this craving and narcissistic satisfaction go - this energy behind, or underneath thoughts.
your thoughts will start disappearing mid thought, turning into a vague cloud of energy, then the cloud starts dissipating, until there is only silence and the direct remaining energy of your own ego.
your ego needs thoughts to feed itself this narcissistic energy. if you continue to refuse thoughts to substantilize, your ego dies.

So if I wanted a bigger dick for instance, I understand I need to be clear and concise and not too asky. so how would I word this because something along the lines of "big dick/BG DCK" seems far too vague.

Well faggit... I thought the threadlimit was 300, made new bread for no reason.

There was some extra info there so ill link it again anyway (its dead)
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>>19171351
Check the thread post above, as well as earlier posts in this thread. Indeed it is abit vague, it can be kept succint (just a couple more words) but your Intention is what will pin it down to you.
>>19146802
In my experience, mine being rapid thought on a daily basis (enough to burn alot of calories), you don't have to totally clear your mind in order to meditate.

What you do need to accomplish is making sure your thoughts aren't meandering to everything you'd normally think about, and instead are focused only on the issue at hand. And rather than forcefully controlled, your stream of thought should only be casually regulated to reduce the number of thoughts.

Thoughts related to your sigil, the spell you are casting, only help to further charge it. The reason for clearing your thoughts is to remove any that dont have anything to do with the spell/project, including any negative ones too.

So if you must "think" because you cannot shut off your brain, you need to make sure you're only casually thinking about all of the End Result aspects of what you're focused on

(check out some of those Law Of Attraction materials such as The Secret, Abraham Hicks, or Science Of Getting Rich for some tips or understanding of why this is important)

(combining with a spell like these sigils makes these techniques viable because it keeps the Subconscious focused on the End Result, as if its locked in, rather than you having to consciously cater your thoughts around your success)
>>19169351
> narcissistic satisfaction, a sense of control over your world.

Yeah well, the outer world is a product of the inner world, within the one is the all, you are god. Sooo... it is entirely justified, and you have a responsibility to control it as well. Thats what free will is about.

Is it true that charging your sigil via masturbation is the weakest form of charging?

>>19171687
It's better for magick to do NoFap anyway