you were made to die by a creator. you were made to be controlled

bamp til you fags reply and stop larping

reply to my thread we are all going to die because creators wanted us to atheist where are your fucking arguments to this theory NOW

i call it my weakness theory btw

you fucking shills reply now or im calling the yakuza and this whole forum will die jk lol but seriously reply

>you were not made immortal on purpose

Im sure we weren't made immortal we just are.

>>19077538

what. the. fuck. is that? you literally fucking die you dont live forever you fucking jackass. even when the longest life spans were around it was still 150-200 unless you have a rare mutation where you never age, even then you might be able to die from disease.

>>19077538

i will find you and end your life

stop fucking larping or i will find all of you somehow and punch you electronically with my dick

DONT TALK ABOUT THE TWO NUKES THAT WENT OFF AT GROUND ZERO!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

There's no use arguing with atheists, even if you corner them saying that conscience is energy and thus won't go away, they want to discuss how it is something else with platitudes.

>>19077557

Atheists are immoral degenerates who as usually Satanists and will use "muh morality is subjective" as an argument to go be a piece of a shit and rape/murder people without feeling bad.

Hey fuckheads, unless you're a monkey flinging shit at the walls at the zoo, you should know the difference between good and bad.

>>19077535
I fucking lol'd

>>19077560

YA HEAR THAT FUCKOS?!

>>19077565

i am dying right now send help jk but seriously someone is dying in the world right now because we were made to not be immortal on purpose you fucking IDIOTS OPEN YOUR EYES!

www.alexjonesbones.com

/x/ isn't smart.

>>19077503
this is one sexy fine piece of truth you got there.


how much do you want for it?

>>19077503
You were made at all. If you think you could do a better job, be my guest. You have any idea how ungrateful you are that any of that shit exists at all? What you rather be some electron floating in the 100 million year void between galaxies? I think this place sucks, so that you people can learn a little bit of gratitude for the lives you have been given. If it was better, you would be shouting down from your space ships at primitive people about how awesome you are for being given a better life and birth than they were.

You did none of this shit, you blame its creators for every ill in the world, that you and other people have only done themselves. If you want to overcome your instincts, you can do that. Good food is a signal to your body that it gets good nutrition. Its not natures fault that humans have hijacked their diet and engorge themselves on junk food.

If you weren't weak, your ego would never have a sliver of a chance to see that there is something beyond its puny reality of self obsession.

>>19077503
You are an idiot.

>>19077570
>www.alexjonesbones.com

avin a giggle mate?

>>19077614

I never said I was ungrateful. I am more of a centrist/realist but I want you all to have a reality check that you were made with weaknesses on purpose to be controlled.

Food is a crutch, technically all man needed was water and air. Amino acids and "vitamins" actually hinder you because you cannot live without them. You are forced to pay for their body currency in markets or through labor. You are eating tasty food that makes you become addicted to it because of sugars and minerals. No matter what food is a weakness people were able to fast and drink rich water and live with very little dependency on food. But since slaves require food for labor, food was created, mainly fruits. We share 50% of our DNA with bananas, look it up.

Weakness does help contain the ego, but it also controls it. Emotions are a weakness that the creators do not feel much of, other than happiness probably. We were made to feel pain, sadness, and emotion much more than they do.

>>19077503
That's the price of free will.

>>19077987

I get that, but ultimately you are not free. Were those slaves in Babylon free to not do labour? Are you free to not have to go to work everyday 5 days a week 9-5? No, you are not free. Maybe in America and 1st/2nd world countries you have the opportunity to be a capitalist and escape from job labour, but most people work their jobs and do nothing with their lives. Ultimately we are not free as a whole around the world.

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>>19077570
its so rude too if u think about it when we're told this story:
God: i LOVE u infintely and unconditionally, i give to u (((COMPLETE))) soverignty thru will, 4 u r made in my image; except but u have to die when cause i said so
we can justify/understand anything cause of our love 4 one another/everything, but by far, death is the most tragic experience of the human condition
(i didnt look @ ur web address cause i think its a porno site)

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>>19077503
Yeah but atleast we got Alex Jones exposing the government lies.

>>19078007

I am Alex Jones you fucking piece of shit and I will murder you (jk) because you are brainwashed turd burgler who needs to be put out of his or her misery ecks dee to the tee

>>19078003

the site was an alex jones meme. yeah man it's fucking bullshit "oh i give you free will and set you up to fail" he probably told the snake lizard to tell them to eat the apple and make them weak.

what a faggot

>>19077623

you're a fucking retarded controlled zombie idiot, end yourself

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DIE SHILLS DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!

shill auto detection unit activated, going into overload.

>>19078032
I am a fluke.
I a fluke
I fluke
Fluke
I am

Who are you to say I lack free will, human?
I'm more alive than you are.

>>19077503
You need a good lay mate...

Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:

>>19077560
You are cancer

>>19078058

You do not lack free will to have thoughts or work within the laws of man, but you are not physically able to escape this realm or a work/war based society. Maybe since you live in USA or a 1st/2nd world country, but a majority of people do not have "free will" they are bound to chains through labour, sexual slavery, war, etc.

Learn to read bitch.

>>19078068
form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

>>19078066

>retard atheist babby fagget detected

off yourself, the son of the creator will come and he will destroy you

https://youtu.be/1Ue63DMKN0M?t=11m44s

>>19078068
Ephesians 1:11New International Version (NIV)

11 In him we were also chosen,[a] having been predestined according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of his will,

>>19078072

go to 11:44 the bottom of the pyramid has script that was translated by one of the most profound translation professors and it says "the son of the creator comes"

>>19078068
Below are 17+ verses that support the Doctrine of Election (sometimes referred to as predestination, but technically not the same). These are verses that don’t need other verses to support them. These verses alone are plain and clear. If we were to do a full exposition of predestination, the list would be even longer.


How blessed is the one whom You choose and bring near to You
To dwell in Your courts.
We will be satisfied with the goodness of Your house,
Your holy temple.


– Ps 65:4


The Lord has made everything for its own purpose,
Even the wicked for the day of evil.


– Prov 16:4


And He will send forth His angels with a great trumpet and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.


– Mt 24:31

now, will not God bring about justice for His elect who cry to Him day and night, and will He delay long over them?


– Luke 18:7


So that the rest of mankind may seek the Lord,


And all the Gentiles who are called by My name,’
Says the Lord, who makes these things known from long ago.


– Acts 15:17-18


And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose. For those whom He foreknew, He also

>>19078074

yeah sounds like we really don't have free will

>>19078084
o become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren; and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified.


– Romans

Who will bring a charge against God’s elect? God is the one who justifies;


– Rom 8:33


for though the twins were not yet born and had not done anything good or bad, so that God’s purpose according to His choice would stand, not because of works but because of Him who calls,


– Romans 9:11


– Rom 11:2


In the same way then, there has also come to be at the present time a remnant according to God’s gracious choice. But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works, otherwise grace is no longer grace. What then? What Israel is seeking, it has not obtained, but those who were chosen obtained it, and the rest were hardened;

predestined
– Romans 11:5-7

but we speak God’s wisdom in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God predestined before the ages to our glory;


– 1 Cor 2:7


He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the kind intention of His will,…


also we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to His purpose who works all things after the counsel of His will,


– Ephesians 1:5,11


knowing, brethren beloved by God, His choice of you;
He says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.” So then it does not depend on the man who wills or the man who runs, but oForn God who has mercy.


– Romans 9:15-16 (the whole chapter)

But we should always give thanks to God for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God has chosen you from the beginning for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and faith in the truth.


– 2 Thes 2:13


Paul, a bond-servant of God and an apostle of Jesus Christ, for the faith of those chosen of God and the knowledge of the truth which is according to godliness,


– Titus 1:1


according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, by the sanctifying work of the Spirit, to obey Jesus Christ and be sprinkled with His blood: May grace and peace be yours in the fullest measure.


– 1 Peter 1:2


All who dwell on the earth will worship him, everyone whose name has not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who has been slain.

>>19078097

summary is you have "free will" but you have to do what god says! yeah... so free...

>>19078109
essentially.

christians are retarded and they will be either reformed or destroyed.

>>19078112

DUDE MUH FREE WILL BUT NOT LMAO

>>19078117
Ephesians 1:4-5 ESV / 191 helpful votes Helpful Not Helpful

Even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love he predestined us for adoption as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will,

Romans 8:28-30 ESV / 147 helpful votes

And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose. For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified.

Ephesians 1:5 ESV / 127 helpful votes

He predestined us for adoption as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will,

John 15:16 ESV / 105 helpful votes

You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit and that your fruit should abide, so that whatever you ask the Father in my name, he may give it to you.

Romans 8:29 ESV / 102 helpful votes

For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers.

2 Peter 3:9 ESV / 85 helpful votes

Ephesians 1:11 ESV / 25 helpful votes

In him we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to the purpose of him who works all things according to the counsel of his will,

Romans 8:30 ESV / 25 helpful votes

And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified.

Matthew 22:14 ESV / 25 helpful votes

For many are called, but few are chosen.”

Romans 8:33 ESV / 24 helpful votes

Who shall bring any charge against God's elect? It is God who justifies.

John 6:45 ESV / 24 helpful votes

It is written in the Prophets, ‘And they will all be taught by God.’ Everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to me—

2 Thessalonians 2:13 ESV / 23 helpful votes

But we ought always to give thanks to God for you, brothers beloved by the Lord, because God chose you as the firstfruits to be saved, through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth.

1 Thessalonians 1:4 ESV / 23 helpful votes

For we know, brothers loved by God, that he has chosen you,

>>19078126
>>19078142

thank you brother. I find that this hypocrisy painted as "free will" is alarmingly dangerous for indoctrination purposes. people dont realize it because we are naturally born to take orders. there are studies that show we are more receptive to be told what to do. it's in our dna

>>19077557
The explanatory gap is a term introduced by philosopher Joseph Levine for the difficulty that physicalist theories of mind have in explaining how physical properties give rise to the way things feel when they are experienced.

>>19078158
help spread the word brah

>>19077503

realest thread on /x/

>>19078071

he's an also who created evil on purpose when he didnt have to lol love it

>>19078194

asshole*

>>19078068
Learn to save Mankind.
That's much better, human.

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Free will always exists. Dying is a choice, just like working 9-5 or being a prisoner or a slave is a choice. The only people bound in such things are willingly doing so, because they are too weak to take another choice.

>>19078213

Oh yeah? You gonna stop the gears of war/life/oppression from turning? What's your magical plan asshole? I actually have inventions for crops to prevent droughts from affecting them, and I invented a wind powered car. What have you done? That's right, nothing. Retard.

>>19078219
Sure you have. If you've done these things, why aren't they commonly in use? Or available for sale? Are you hording your inventions in your mother's basement?

>>19078218

>let me just unchain myself from this chinese labour camp, which is physically impossible

end yourself

>>19078197
>>19078194
yup.
it can't get any simpler.

>>19078228

They will come to fruition in time, you think there's not laws that prevent a wind powered car to protect major car companies or making something for crops you don't have water usage laws in certain states. Do you not realize the minimum for a patent is at least 15-20k?

You're a moron if you think things can be magically put out there.

>>19078219
Magical plan? Do I look a magician?

Ideas don't die anon, and I'm the personification of a forbidden idea.

>>19078218
>you chose to be born didn't you?

>>19078243

oh so edgy and useless can i suck your micro penis now?

>>19078248
What a fool.
Grow up.
Please.

>>19078249
ok LAIN KNIGHT

LMAO

>>19077503
Yeah, So? Your pseudo-poetry-faggotry impresses nobody. Good job, you discovered something people discovered thousands of years ago. I don't see how that contradicts atheism. If anything, atheism helps point out how pointless and random existence is.

>>19078249

what makes you the personification of a forbidden idea? sounds like youre just being edgy. better have a good answer now's your chance.

>>19078249
namefags pls go

>>19078255

Atheism almost always means you don't believe in a creator, when clearly a creator made you with many weaknesses.

Look in the mirror and rethink your life, pig-monkey

>>19078229
If you're in a chinese labor camp, you can choose to work, or you can escape, or simply refuse to work, or you can take your own life into your hands. It's always a choice.
>>19078246
Did you not?

Look at me guys I'm a huge faggot LOL

>>19078238
Are you deluded? There are no laws against windpowered cars. There are no laws against crops that require less water. Why don't you just take out a loan to fund your grand inventions?

>>19078267

are you serious? how can you choose to be born? LOL

also

>dont work get beaten
>tortured
>they threaten to beat and torture your family
>dont even have time to kill yourself because you are literally chained down

hmmm

>>19078263
It's just a name.
>>19078259
You've never felt the lies in your skin? Indoctrination of your Soul?
A deep feeling in your gut saying that your beliefs are wrong?
>>19078270
Wow so childish.
>>19078275
My first fan... how fast they grow huh.

>>19078275
How can you do work if literally chained down? Also, being beaten is just a consequence of you exerting your free will. Just because there are negative consequences for exerting your will doesn't make it not exist.

Also, you could have chosen to die at any time before your birth, but you didn't.

>>19078278
So you guys like my name huh?

>>19078288

what the fuck are you on about? you going on about some reincarnation jibberish? jesus christ almighty you better have a good explanation for chosen to die before birth... (i seriously will find you if you dont)

>>19078288
what the fuck are you implying anon?
are you saying that before i was conceived, i chose to be born in this body with this mind and these life circumstances? is that what you are telling me anon?

>>19078274
you are a massive imbecile

>>19078293
tripfags, namefags kys

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What if i told you
You are not your
Body you are
Some body

>>19078309
At least we don't impose ideas.
Don't try the same with us.

>>19078274

dude you cant mass produce cars that will fuck with the petrol market. you can only use a CERTAIN amount of water and my invention might use more. you are so dumb it hurts.

>Christ-fag being a pretentious nihilist

Typical :I

Being flawed is a phase. We can ascend to godhood with time and effort. Or we can just do as OP and die weak and pathetic because we're already perfect as God made us.

Let me know how that worked out when you die and realise your whole life was wasted not enjoying your mortality while it lasted

>>19078243
>I'm the personification of a forbidden idea.

Coward cunt?

Neat!

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>>19078016
no joke. any1 like that is no bro, my man
God bless (((by the actual 1)))

>>19078318

>you're dependent on food and multiple amounts of minerals to live, not just that but oxygen.
>you're addicted to pleasure of eating food and sex, but that can't be a weakness at all because it feels good right?!
>you're perfect because you're susceptible to death and disease, yup sounds great!
>we can ascend to godhood with time and effort, it's not like we totally haven't lost our spiritual connections or there isn't literally static and subconscious radio waves that hinder us from doing that, nope!

>>19078324
Nothingness is All.
All is Everything.
You've been lied since the cradle.

>>19078338

I already knew that, say something new.

>>19078338

yeah i already heard that too

>there's no dark without light blah blah

expand on it or leave the thread you vague larping asshole

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>>19078339
ur God, but deny it, so u lost ur power; but u really shouldnt say that u r

>>19078339
>>19078342
What do you want? A guide? Fuck off.

>>19078294
>>19078298
If a baby moves wrong in the womb, it dies. Your less developed baby brain could have chosen to do so.

Also, I like how you didn't refute my other point. You can always choose not to do something, but you have to face the consequences.

>>19078317
>Drought resistant crops need more water
lel
Also, you totally can mass produce non-petrol cars, electric cars being a prime example.

>>19078356
no you dithering raving lunatic idiot, thats not how it works. in the womb your brain isn't developed enough to make conscious decisions you raving fool.

>>19078356

are you fucking serious dude? how many people remember being in the womb? like 1 in 1 billion or some shit. you're so fucking dumb i just want to break my fucking keyboard on you face.

i did refute your point but i had that lain fag name when i made fun of him in the other post

>>19078275

so please explain how people are commonly conscious in the womb/remember being in it

>>19078356
>you can always choose not to do something
so you can choose not to die, right?

>>19078332
Maybe do something about that last one instead of laying in your knees sniffing your pastor's ballsack

Oh wait that would require actual effort and you want maximum payout for minimal effort SABE ME JEEBUS

>>19078361

there's water laws in arizona california that you can only give the crops certain amounts of water per month. this has to do with water droughts so we can use the water for our ya know, fucking sinks and shit?

electric cars are still using a form of energy to charge the batteries, but are yet to be massly produced at every car dealership because there are laws that restrict them from doing that, so they do them in the thousands not millions.

i honestly hope youre trolling.

>>19078371
Yes. But when was the last time someone did it?

>>19078364
Do you have any proof of that?

>>19078367
Just because you can't remember it doesn't mean you didn't choose.

Remember, there is always a choice. It's your choice to take it, with it's consequences.

>>19078373

why are you assuming I am christian. I have been against the creator this whole argument calling him an asshole, and I never said it was christ. you sound like another faggy ass fedora wearing atheist who has shitty pointless arguments online while getting nowhere in them on your end or anywhere in your life

>>19078381

dude only retard babies who have like a mineral disorder and can feel it in their fetus bones would end themselves. everyone else is eating fruit mommy chowed down and being domiciled. you're a moron.

op here and the guy who just owned all you
>>19078377
>>19078383
>>19078387

people are so fucking stupid it hurts, very badly. either that or shills. please end your lives immediately. thank you

>>19078383
Oh sorry I'm 100% on your side then

Let's fuck God up

>>19078381
you have no verifiable proof that through mere conscious decision a person can cancel their own death.
also what were your exact thought when you were developing in your mother's womb? can you remember what you were thinking to yourself during those times? can you?

>>19078398

there's no point in answering that guy i called the yakuza and he's fucking dead, donezo

>>19078397

yeah np

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>>19078398
>tfw not even 1 and gettin dat pussy

>>19077560
I'm an atheist, and you're right. I rape and murder all I want.

Which means not at all.

Unlike your degenerate ass, I don't need the fear of skydaddy to keep me from doing bad things because I just like to be a good person.

I'm more moral than you ever could be because I am good out of love, not fear. Now go suck skydaddy's peepee.

>>19078440

lmao nice way to affiliate with atheist satanist by putting that stupid retarded label on yourself and also way to deny you were created when clearly you are because of your weaknesses.

>>19078352

Ok, be a parrot, half ass everything like always.

>>19078447

Look dude I don't necessarily disagree that we were created but that weaknesses = created is shit tier logic. It would make more sense to say that any attributes means created

Stop fucking around Wayne

>>19078459

well if the creator was so cool he wouldn't have given us weaknesses, just saying. we are very susceptible to disease, death, dependency, dick, etc

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>>19077503
I blame the jews

>>19078480

no shit judeans were some of the first humanoids on earth

>>19078485
The modern jew is not the jew of ancient times. The modern jew emerged in the 12th century.

>>19078492

sure i get that but technically we'll all part jew

DONT TALK ABOUT THE NUKES AT GROUND ZERO AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

welp thread died, thanks for playing guys

>>19078496
What nukes?

>>19078218
Free will is an illusion. Your actions, thoughts and beliefs are all determined by external things. You may think that you are making choices, but ultimately you're just reacting to the things you cannot control

>>19078524

the mini-nukes that detonated to ignite the thermite that was painted on the wall

>>19078646
They're called thermobaric warheads, not mininukes.

>>19078664

same shit right?

>>19077560
kill yourself, or at least don't breed

>>19077994
of course they were free to slack off.

but there's always a price to pay, and not every price is paid with currency

>>19078745
Not at all.
Not same principle.
Not same yield.
Not same kaboom.
Thermobarics are hot... but conventional warheads. They rely in atmosphere and temperature. And yes, they could've been enough to mess with the WTC.

>>19077521
Thanks for openly admitting to making this thread to farm some (You)'s. Sage and report, everyone.

>>19078754

spotted the raper

>>19078775

it's called a bump retard, end yourself

>>19078768

yeah okay it's the same concept like type of nuke in a a way but it's a specific warhead that is very hot. I get it. thank you.

>>19077560
Yeah, well, your religion protects kiddie-diddlers.

>>19078071
>>19078074
>>19078080
>christfags
you fuckers are worse than this faggot OP

take a moment and think about that, you blind retards.
>b-but muh god
you dnot know if he/she/it even exists.

and i doubt they'd want to have a retarded flock of sheep following them, as well.

>>19078785

and you're say paedesta isnt a paedo either? they're all fucked up

>>19078786

what is context? he is explaining how the bible shows we have no true free will because god dictates our actions. you should try READING the full convo and replies to understand, not just the bits and pieces you choose and then complain about "muh christfags" the guy was agreeing with me that we have no free will and we are slaves

>>19077503
remove the pointless checkmate line and this could have been a legit theology debate
instead it turned into a religion flame war

>>19078800
I'm agree.

>>19078800

yeah but i wanted to call them out because we are clearly made with many weaknesses and it btfo the whole "but we evolved from some apes fucking" i was getting more at people who believe in evolution more than creationism, sorry

>>19078792
and the best part is that this thread won't make a fuck all difference in the world.

most, if not all, will just continue to live on tomorrow, and the next day, waiting for our inevitable expiration.

get over it, and start dealing with it, or you can opt-out of this life like the bitch faggots you are.

There are accounts of people that didn't die.

In the bible even

It's very simple to live forever

never SIN, never TRESPASS THE LAW

Never enter into Trangression.

Do all of that and you should live forever.

>>19078819

im still here faggot fuck you i havent opted out on shit. im not a fucking nihilist loser i am living it up when in rome right? im still gonna be real about it though

>>19078821

shut the fuck up you bible thumping nerd "muh never sinning and i'll be immortal in heaven" have you gone to heaven and came back. do you know anyone who has. did they take pictures and show you? prove it!

>>19078821
2 Kings 2:23-24
And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.

And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the Lord. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.