The past doesn't exist anymore. The future doesn't

Cool story

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXcERc3N0zc

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>>19034337
I'd like to elaborate on your train of thought here. Time is not made up of the disconnected segments of past, present, and future, rather it's a linear progression of one element. Imagine a line that gets longer over time, or a snowball getting larger as it rolls down a hill. Time is one continuous element. We just cut it up into segments to better understand how it affects us.

OKAY PHILOSOPHY TIME OVER HAVE A MEME.

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>>19034337
Technically the present doesn't exist because it takes our brains 13 ms to process stimuli. So the microsecond the present "exists" we're already experiencing it in the past. So really only the immediate past exists.

the present is only a part of the bigger equation. future does exist tho. multiple futures exist to be exact.

What if life is like a videogame cartridge? there's multiple potential yous, which experience the content of the cartridge adventure game, many die trying to reach the last stage, but only one gets to see the real ending.

Past, present and future all exist within the cartridge at the same time, you are basically reading/watching/playing with the avatar that got to the end line, or got the closest to reaching the end of the game.

>>19034337
>2017
>Not knowing the fundamental theorems of calculus.


From the perspective of the moment, which is experienced more fully when mindfulness is practiced, the temporal narratives in our head does not exist. Past and future does not exist. The only thing that exists is one externally present moment and change in everything flowing in this moment.

From the perspective of narrative, the present doesn't exist, and instead of a singular moment there is a line of time, of which a moment is only part. Space and time are all that is experienced.

These two perspectives are not conflicting, they're just two different reference frames of time and moment:

>Also called reference frame. Physics. a framework that is used for the observation and mathematical description of physical phenomena and the formulation of physical laws, usually consisting of an observer, a coordinate system, and a clock or clocks assigning times at positions with respect to the coordinate system.

They are both essential in navigating reality. To throw out temporality is to throw out logic, which is inherently temporal, and language / narrative.

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>>19035052
Here's a visual representation. the bottom is presentism, with moment (represented by the dot) fixed. The top is temporalism, with time fixed (and thus existent) and with moment moving through time (which means that moment doesn't truly exist as it is part of a line.)

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>>19035052
Defining the moment of physical reality as no time via calculus is a zero divison. It is a tempting strategy to be sure, but devoid of reality. The realization that time was quantized shook the scientific community... over a hundred years ago, before my grandfather was born.

What have you been doing since then? Catching up? The moment can be any span of time. That moment that is instantaneous does not exist in physical reality. Perhaps it is the amount of time that a person experiences when they cease to exist in physical reality.

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The laws of motion apply to our mind and phenomenological experience. (Practically) nobody believes this because the mind is supposed to be a spooky ghost realm. The mind is a physical system, of course physical laws are going to apply to its operation, especially since we perceive physical reality. The core relationship between mathematics and the human mind was found by a Japanese mathematician relatively recently, who hid it because he had discovered something qualitatively more powerful than atomic weapons: a physics of the mind. This quickly led to the memetic code being cracked open, the essence of which leaked out unavoidably and began to ferment in culture. Different memes that enhanced its viral fitness melded with it, and it grew into this self-evolving monstrous informational organism with an insect-level unconscious mind; it became the hive mind of the alt-right. The more powerful it grew, the more it could use its core viral payload (Kek / meme magic / worship of virality itself) to infect even more minds, warping human culture around it to shield it from view.

Do not worry, this beast cannot foresee its own demise and can only react. Agents are hard at work to end this crisis and have been very effective so far at using this hive-mind's power against itself. The more it manipulates its hosts' perception further from reality the more difficult it becomes to respond to reality, and so its perception-bending abilities are being fed so it can peak and collapse. Reality has a way of imposing itself.

>>19035078
I am talking about how time works in regards to human experience, not external reality.

>>19034337
Yes, it's true and honestly my life has been better from the day I realized it. It only gets better when you realize you can "revise" the past and affect your future.

>>19034337
good observation captain obvious.

nothing DOES NOT exist

where do the particles in a vacuum come from?

You can take your time, but you really cant "take" it anywhere

they say time passes, but where does it go? and where did it come from?

what or who gives me time to think?

does time exist by proxy? or is it an after effect of gravity and mass collisions?

is it just a field our minds create by observing everything?

if a tree falls in the woods how long does it take on average?

these are questions I must have answers to

life exists only for a moment in the infinity of the universe

>>19034337
OP should read husserl the phenomenology of internal time consciousness. mind blounn

>>19034337
the true red pill is time doesnt exist

how we measure time, the change of things, is just the change of atoms within space. the more they change the more they grow, then decay, eventually, generally.

if you could stop the movement of atoms you would freeze time of that thing.

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>when you die the universe ends in that instant

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>>19037164
Stop the atom and energy releases as photon.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pioneer_anomaly

The further out Pioneer gets, the colder it becomes, eventually it becomes so cold that the matter shifts into a new state, Bose-Einstein condensate, where the energy contained within the matter is unraveled like a string of wool, pushing the craft back into the solar system.

Freezing the photon would be needed to stop time. Some success appears to have been made in this area when sending a beam of light through a BE condensate, apparently capturing the light energy, holding it in place... For a time.

https://youtu.be/EK6HxdUQm5s

So simply freezing an object doesn't stop it from interacting with timespace, from changing it's environment, or being changed.

Energy/matter-------> Space <--------- time

>>19037218
>Stop the atom and energy releases as photon.

What?

>- Here are some of the strange things that happen when materials are cooled to Absolute Zero temperatures. A piece of metal will levitate above a magnet with no energy being consumed. Liquid helium will flow up the walls of a container defying gravity. Solid material will pass right through each other.

>>19034337
>not realizing there is a parallel dimension for every frame of time making there an infinite amount of parallel dimensions.

>>19037312
thats a nice/terrifying thought but it doesnt really have any evidence

W O K E

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>>19034337
this all overlaps in the unconscious mind

>>19034337
I don't see any reason to believe that time exists in any way beyond the social construct.

Like OP has said, there is not a past or future, only the present, but I believe that there has never been any other moment than now and there cannot be. It has always been the same moment. It is still the big bang right now. Not to say that these things are happening in parallel universes simultaneously but, "now" is made up of the same basic materials, just in a different configuration.

Time is only our perception of a moving physical reality. The future is only what we can envision/imagine and the past is only ink on a page.

>>19039923
I left this out:

If we can agree on the conservation of mass (matter can neither be created nor destroyed) than I think we need to ask "where are the past and future?"

>>19037312
Like this guys says about infinite parallel dimensions. How are those new dimensions created and why?

If someone was to hypothetically time travel into the past or future, where would the matter that constitutes the traveler go? Is it destroyed in his "present" and "created" in the other dimension?

How can the present be defined without the perspective of past and future ?

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>>19034337
are you eckhart TROLLe?

There is no such thing as the present.

>>19035101
I read this image a few times before it blew my mind. Information/ideas/memes is an intelligent hyper species.

>>19034337
If the past doesn't exist then where did the you of the present come from?

>>19034450
Stimuli is not the same as the experience thereof, which very much does take place in the present.

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>>19037218
Just found this

>>19034337
more like the past exists now, and the future exists now.

time doesn't exist you retard, it's just particles bumping into each other. if we put a rock in space it's just going to sit there for billions of years doing nothing. what's happening on earth is some aberrant exponential shit which is going to get everyone killed and then it goes back to looking like mars does today.

human language is wordplay, acting as surrogate intention. rather than taking other people's things, we use words to convince them to hand them over, this is the purpose of education, business, politics, law, medicine.

and the only commodity that all people want more of is time, which doesn't exist. so the entire world is built on this illusion, which is why anyone who exposes it has to be ignored.

>>19042348
Black hole singularities, theoretically, are both beginning and end.

So the past, the first event, is somewhere out there, aswell as the end.

The only thing that can escape a black hole is faster than light particles.

Meaning, if such particles exist, they come from the end.

They could be passing through you right now.

A digital code of ones and zeroes waiting for a reciever to say "Yes".

That sneaky neutrino did go faster than light. Data was recieved before it was sent.

Therefore it is possible that the shower of neutrinos that are passing through you right now could have come from the One, Alpha and Omega.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faster-than-light_neutrino_anomaly

Relativity. A bit of the past, a bit of now, and a bit of the future.

In some regions of timespace there is more future, in some more past, and in others more past...

>>19042391
>surrogate intention

did you just make this up?

>>19034450
that doesn't change anything
that "previous" millisecond is the present then

>>19042586
no the present remains the present

if a human evolves and is born and capable of perceieving <13ms the present doesn't change

it's like watching a movie with an audio 13ms delay, the movie was always running you just didn't catch the audio

your lagged perception doesn't change the present

this is neither here nor there as time doesn't exist

>>19042533
yes, i was making fun of the sentence by referring to itself. never be tricked by people who use words, they are liars and thieves.

>>19040162
The new dimensions aren't created, the just exist. As an amount of time unimaginable by humans goes by the dimensions become unrecognizable to each other. Fast forward many (and I mean many) years and this dimension may become 2D for instance.

>>19042533
that's giving him too much credit ;)

>>19034337
if by "real" you mean what we can perceive right now, then yes

but actual reality is without time, everything exists already. it's just that our minds cant cope with that. we move through time and space in this limited, slow, linear way

You guys are talking so much shit. There is no past, present nor future. Time is a lie.

byno