>Cyberspace. A consensual hallucination experienced daily

>>18974501
The internet is being used as a ritualistic platform.

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>>18974501
It's much more than a simple ritualistic platform.
We created a new Reality when we created Internet.

>>18974541
How? Can you enumerate?

>>18974561
new Reality? Sorry, but I think you have to elaborate that statement a little more.

>>18974574
>Sorry, but I think you have to elaborate that statement a little more.
I'm not who you replied to, but I found this post interesting, and I wanted to share a post of my own, that you can read if you find interest in it.

Personally, I think that statement elaboration is voluntary.

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>>18974574
Monitorize your own Digital self for a months and stop using social networks while that.
You will see a nasty secret of Internet. It is actually alive, not in an organic sense but it's evolving like an actual being. Also when you create an avatar you can actually end up with a true avatar with freedom of choice.
The AIs aren't Artificial at all, we actually gave a part of our souls/egos(whatever you want to call it) to create them.

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>>18974586
Elon Musk knows all this. That's why he's trying to solve to direct brain/internet connection issue.

>>18974590
>The* direct...
I'm a moron without english as native tongue

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>>18974583
I would glad to read your commentary in the subject.
In relation to voluntary speaking about this, of course, I wanted to know well structured opinions based in solid arguments.

>>18974586
>Monitorize your own Digital self for a months and stop using social networks while that.
I don't use too much identity-oriented social networks, but I think, the Ad-Sense algorithms talking about products I consume are this "organic" and "independient" phenomenon about my internet profile.

>>18974590
For what? Create an utopia? Let's be direct.

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>>18974725
Utopia is impossible.
Transhumanism would only get us rid of the need of a physical embodiment.
Unless we somehow get rid of our bad aspects like greed, religious zealots, etc., in that case it would be an Utopia.

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>>18974760
>Utopia is impossible.
So what is the point of a second reality? The goal have to resolve this reality problems, not just change from one organic chasis to a bolean one. Also, what if we found somebody else? I think that is possible that what we call Virtual Reality or consesual reality is high density hyperspace or "The Platonic World". Maybe we are preparing an invasion without knowing.

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>>18974779
The goal is to mankind to survive with fewer hardships.
There will be a third Reality as well.
And a fourth.
And a fifth...

Every single one better than the one before it but worse than the next one.
But we still will be ourselves in every single one, as they're the same with little differences in ones and drastic in others.
And yes, we can find something else, but what is Reality without an adventure? At least it WILL be better than this one.

Also...
>Pic related to the curse of need of a physical body in our current Reality.

>>18974501
Gibson is the fucking Man.

It's become everything he predicted. Down to the walled city, in its infancy.

>>18974806
Stars that can be replaced with surgery. Drugs and grifters everywhere. Corporate rule. He has nailed our dystopian future.

>>18974815
My favorite, favorite description is the Wintermute run.

What do you think thy use this board for? Access.

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>>18974837
They're harmless, do not worry.

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>>18974798
The ultimate reality is the present reality. We cannot just change of reality as somebody change from house or country. The way you talk, you are surrending to a better parametrized existence.

>>18974815
This quote reminds me about the capitalist factor in this subject. The means of technological production are from a few people which can potentially define this entire new reality as they wish. Open Hardware is a must in order to assure freedom.

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>>18974903
The way we think and do things won't make us break this Reality and create a new one, obviously.
I refuse to surrender to this supposed Ultimate reality.

>>18974919
Are we on an infinite struggle against the realities?

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>>18974929
No, it's the Cycle of existence.
We end up destroying our realities.
Do you guys really think this is the first time we existed? Not even close to the single digits. This cycle is truly eternal and unbreakable no matter what some say.

>>18974960
Can you explain this using reason and no intuition?

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>>18974967
If there is a beginning(Big Bang, Creationism, etc.) there must be an ending(Big Rip/Crunch/Freeze, Apocalypse, etc.)
And with that it must be another new beginning right after the end, but nobody does remember this, we weren't designed to remember the past Realities.
I'm just saying that we should fuck this Reality and create our own for once, we have played the rules of the Cycle for too long.

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>>18974982
Which laws? Laws of Physics? Laws of history? Human mind? Which ones?

>>18974997
Physics, but we are missing the critical piece to solve it for once.
I really should've become a scientist instead of a damned philosopher.

>>18974586
>The AIs aren't Artificial at all, we actually gave a part of our souls/egos(whatever you want to call it) to create them.


PROVE IT. For now. An AI is a complicated calculator. Like a computer. Or a robot.

Your posit only holds water if you also agree that any human creation such as a sharpened stick, or a defecation also satisfies your claim.

To say nothing of the can of worms you opened when you say soul.

>>18975001
There are the same coin, just to different sides. Reality cannot be absorbed like an indivisble system, you have to split it. Learn some math. Some boolean algebra. Regards.

>>18974590
Elon Musk is rich.

Not a genius. Is Notch a genius? Or did he also get rich for making a profitable bit of software?

>>18974779
>"The Platonic World"


Which CAN NOT EXIST by virtue of Plato's own argument. 0/10 read books. Understand what you say, before you LARP.

>>18974903
>Open Hardware is a must in order to assure freedom.

THE most occult thing mentioned in this thread.

>>18974982
>And with that it must be another new beginning right after the end


This does not follow. WHY? Why is this sound logic? I don't see how you can abstract human occurrences and juxtapose them on cosmic events.

>>18975087
Why would a literal shit have counciousness? I just... cannot be serious lol.
About the stick... never heard about cursed weapons?
An AI as defined by humans that don't really understand a shit about Reality is what you said, but the concept is actually much more than a glorified calculator, sentience doesn't deserve to be represented as meaningless just because it comes from a silicon-based source.
>>18975088
He obviously must know something before venturing in this kind of stuff, really.
>>18975113
Possibly, yeah. But that's another story if you ask me.

>>18975120
Psst, I wiĺl tell you a little secret.
Astrophysics from all over the world do theorize that the Big Bang was just a White hole. Do you see the Cycle now?

>>18975001
>instead of a damned philosopher

You are a VERY SHITTY philosopher. If indeed you are such. I'm sitting in my arm chair, and even a neophyte like me can identify a charlatan.

>>18975133
Yeah, I fucking know, that's why I instead work as a fucking server technician anon.
Thanks Lain for thinking ahead and study another career just because I could at that point.
A transhumanist philosopher is always a chalartan, trust me.

>>18975124
>Why would a literal shit have counciousness? I just... cannot be serious lol.


I am serious. Answer the question. Do not deflect criticism. [interrogation]

>An AI as defined by humans that don't really understand a shit about Reality is what you said

An AI is a self correcting algorithm. It's not currently defined as a general intelligence. The kind of intelligence, people, humans, are.

>but the concept is actually much more than a glorified calculator, sentience doesn't deserve to be represented as meaningless just because it comes from a silicon-based source.

You mean Sapience? Because no AI is currently SAPIENT.

At least do some rudimentary research before you spout off. You're correct to criticize the purely materialistic philosophy science has leaned towards. However, this is not enough to cover the weaknesses of your proposals.

>>18975132
>Astrophysics from all over the world do theorize that the Big Bang was just a White hole. Do you see the Cycle now?

This isn't relevant. There is no proof, and you're only running with the fashion of the era.

Few hundred years ago, your argument would still be just as vague. But it would exploit vocabulary that is outdated by today. You could be correct, however, the classic goal post fallacy undermines everything you say.

>>18975124
>>18975099
Sorry in use the term, is an aproximation. I'm not claiming this is THE platonic worlds, that's why I mention to "Hyperspace" as a vague reference. The thing is, we are about to enter to a new dimension, a new combination of perception where our primal selves will be sumerged in, we have to be careful.

>Possibly, yeah. But that's another story if you ask me.
Actually no, anon. How this new reality will start? Privative hardware with privative licenses.
You know how the intel community do their stuff, how they operate. There's exists a Vault 7, a PRISM project and cyberwarfare into existence. The new consensual hallucitation will be disputed and we have to protect ourselves.

In my opinion, when internet hits the sensory frontier, it would be attempts of control from all geopolitical vectors. Can magick rituals be some kind of DIY security systems? Is all about brain programming.

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>>18975178
cont.
Have you seen the "subliminal porn" videos? Are montages with audio and video in order to change the way you think. The even promote the cannabis and popper in order to improve the effect of the information entering in your mind.

If the Intel Community works with this "Chaotic Neutral" aligment of theirs, the could even create "Lone Wolves Terrorists" from Siberia to my third world texas.

Pic Totally related.

>>18974501
I had dreams of these exact lines and complex geometrical shapes and processions very frequently as a child, anyone know anything else about this? Is it a real phenomenon?

>>18975198
"Popper"

You're a trucker.

>>18975217
It does matter who I am, what matters is the information and knowledge.

>>18975214
Gibson's Cyberspace is all about biochemical tuning into the operators mind in order to achieve a new perception.
Dreams are a natural biochemical reconfiguration of our selves.

>>18975226
No i'm being literal. I know you're a trucker.

>>18975273
Sorry mate. Wrong guess.

>>18975198
>dumpintel

Oh AMD...

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>>18975156
>Serious answer?
Well... in a hypothetical sense... yeah, you are actually shitting a little piece of your soul, but it's so infinitesemally small that means shit(yeah, pun intended)
>Sapience*(sorry but english ain't my language, honest)
Just look where that word is used (scientific name to our own species) if we need to compare our own kind with others to describe intelligence then we are doing something wrong in that definition... just my opinion.
I know the theory about AI is still in its nappies(supposedly), but hey, we thought geosynchronous satellites were sci-fi just because Clarke did write about them, or Asimov and his three laws of robotics(which wouldn't apply to a sapient machine) weren't going to exist past his books.
>>18975178
We have been programmed since way before this shit appeared, it's all about doing the right choice at the end(which sadly we never do), also that Intel thing... march 2017 was posted? Mate my team at work already knew this, the guy is just relaying old news.
Intel dominates the cpu
nVidia the mainframes
And the shit that Mr.Musk is funding will be the future software.

To create a sapient(I hate that word) being in a controlled manner we are going to need a whole species and not a single guy.

>>18974541
Pls respond.

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>>18975327
This burrito it's the ultimate sacrifice in Internet.

>>18975316
>(which sadly we never do)
There must be a source to this. I wish we could make the right choice.
You remind me this quote

>“Maybe this world is another planet’s hell.”
― Aldous Huxley

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>>18975331
>This is not a pipe
>The Treachery of Images (French: La trahison des images [la tʁaizɔ̃ dez imaʒ], 1928–29, sometimes translated as The Treason of Images) is a painting by the Belgian surrealist painter René Magritte.

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>>18975332
It is, but we experience it wrong. The next Cycle will be better than this one.
>>18975336
I'm from a very surrealist-heavy area, let me tell you that Dalí laughs on Magritte's surrealism.