Anyone have any experience with Masons and/or getting possessed

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Another long story short, the local Mason bro was totally fucking her awhile ago, word has it even wanted to put a ring on it, but since has severed all ties with her exiled rag-tag "church." This vapid 30-something year old woman who has obviously had plastic surgery somehow has this fucking power over men. Because for the past few months, she's had control of a once well-respected author and Mason, who literally looks like he's having his life force sapped out of him. He seemed like a good dude... but he totally supports her as THE "Magdalene," indirectly but obviously putting himself in the position of Jesus, which is why he lost all his credibility, yet still... they manage to get bigger every day.

This is where I wanted your advice, /x/. Apparently, these people did a ritual at the Pyramids, and time-wise, it all lines up: this ex-prostitute (I found her mugshot) somehow shows up and was welcomed with open arms, current Mason bro she's probs bangin' left his wife for her, loses his career... and hands the fragments of it to her like a sacrifice or something. And I can't look away. I don't hate her, I'm not invested in any of this Mason circlejerk. I feel bad for her, and truly think she's possessed. I feel like she's draining my life force just by my reading her posts, yet can't just stop... I say it's because I'm afraid of her gaining any more power, but it's not like I'm doing anything to stop it, anyway. I guess I'll end the post here and see what kind of feedback I get.

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>>18881744
I only know of one story of anything about witches, possession and draining energy. I think legit this can happen, my vibe from your story is that its not intentional but entities could be attached and working through her and she is a puppet.

https://youtu.be/B9Kd5Vjn2is

Chris Lasala is a hardcore read the bible literally and follow it Christian. He used to be an astral projecting new ager when an experience with Christ converted him. He had demon issues and is big on deliverance/exorcism. He gave up almost all of his wealth to preach Jesus and he fasts a lot.

He does online skype exorcisms/deliverances, and in this one, a human witch takes over and talks to him, a witch that cursed the girl with demons. The witch says she will use her a eunuch dog slave and all of her power. She also makes it clear if you look at the porn she filled or goes to her website she can see your face through magic. She runs her own protestant church but is really a high satanic priestess.

The video was pulled because she sued Chris Lasala. Lasala might be crazy and overboard but I think Christ rewards him for his self denial and zealousness.

Perhaps something like this is going on with your story, its at least similar. I would disconnect from these people, and try to break any soul ties in Jesus name.

Other people may have other suggestions though.

Mason's always seem up their own ass

>>18881744
>>18881763
Sure he's a member? Sounds a bit too unstable to be a Mason.

>>18881763
>>18881744
I want to read the posts. maybe she is Mother Mary

>>18881744
You may find what your looking for I Manly P Hall or blavatsky.

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>>18882023
>>18883794

He's been stripped of his rank among most groups after all this bullshit. Like I said, used to be a pretty balanced, well-respected guy. No one really knows what happened, but this woman certainly has a lot to do with it, what's left of his platform is now hers to propagate her own little empire consisting of mostly Turkish "mystics."


>>18883946

"God is love! Worship me and I will never leave you! Be sure to like all my selfies on all 12 of my pages, otherwise you have forsaken me and that hurts :(" and vapid inspirational quotes/ gas lighting anyone who questions her, if you see her as the broken person she really is it's just your horrible ego being judgmental :( The woman is obviously unstable, and local Mason Bro confirmed that when he severed ties with her. She's writing a book, but we all know her Jesus is helping her write it since he's published more than a few books himself.


>>18883963

I listen to a lot of Manly P recordings, never looked into Madam Blavatsky because everyone I've heard bring her up says she's a fraud, but I'm reading about her possessions now, and wow. I've had friends experience possession, but they've either found help when it was malevolent, or channeled it through because it's carrying a real message. I've witnessed the latter with my own eyes, so whatever this woman is doing obviously comes from a source of pride and thirst for power, a pillar above others regardless of how humble she claims to be. She claims to be THE Mary Magdalena, not to attain some sort of Magdalene consciousness, never mind demonstrate it... So you think it's possible she was possessed by something at the pyramids during their ritual, claiming to be Mary? Because I'm 99% sure Mary incarnate wouldn't be begging people to hail her as the queen of the world and listen to her say the same shallow things in different ways.

>>18881744
my grandfathers brother joined the masons back during the Vietnam war while he was a warrant officer, he then went on to travel to the usa where he did something with the UN im not sure all I know is he made 200k US$ tax free then after returning to aus he was granted the title of grandmaster after he recombined a whole bunch of chapters that were going under or something into one super chapter

>long story short even being closely related to a former grandmaster don't help because those goat riders wont tell you shit

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>>18885389
Well, there are so many "brotherhoods" it depends on who you're talking to. Some of them are just having the biggest circle jerk of their lives, I know secrets you don't know! Others are heavily into politics... and resources for the military. A Mason I know is invested in bullet proof body armor. Others, they just like studying and thinking about esoteric stuff by themselves, and catch the attention of a group that can appreciate that so it initiates them. And some Masons are hardly into magic at all.

This group is linked with the practice of astral magic, which is why I think something happened in the astral to this woman, because Jesus guy not so secretly forged a place for her in a group she tried to manipulate from the inside, which is why he was stripped of his rank.

>>18885419
all I know is he climbed to the rank of warrant officer pretty quick and then did that 2 year stint with the UN doing I have no idea what.
I think he was like some sort of advisor or something all I know is he made 100k a year US$ back in like the 70's or 80's so im not sure if that's what he actually did, all I know is he is retired now, has a big ass boat, a bunch of houses so he cant be doing too bad for himself
my grandfather/his brother isn't a freemason though and still to this day stirs him up with over the top fake secret handshakes a least 4-5 times a month and I get a good laugh out of it

I have one mason friend that believes in the Chiloe warlocks, like we all do actually, it's just common knowledge in here that they exist and live there.

"According to the traveler Bruce Chatwin, who stumbled over traces of their story in the 1970s, they belonged to a “sect of male witches” that existed “for the purpose of hurting people.” According to their own statements, made during the trial of 1880, they ran protection rackets on the island, disposing of their enemies by poisoning or, worse, by sajaduras: magically inflicted “profound slashes.” But since the same men also claimed to belong to a group called La Recta Provincia—a phrase that may be loosely translated as “The Righteous Province”—and styled themselves members of the Mayoria, the “Majority,” an alternative interpretation may also be advanced. Perhaps these witches were actually representatives of a strange sort of alternative government, an indigenous society that offered justice of a perverted kind to indians living under the rule of a white elite. Perhaps they were more shamans than sorcerers.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/into-the-cave-of-chiles-witches-20138093/

>>18881744
I hanged out with some new age friends a while back. The girl in the couple said that she was Mary, Isis, etc... Its not really unheard of for people in spiritual circles to end up thinking they are some kind of god or biblical figure. To some extent all our souls are connected to certain energetic lineage, for instance, I channel Michael, and Sophia. They are presences that I can connect with. For a while, I thought that I was Michael, but have since came to some understanding that maybe hes just a being my soul is close with.

People doing spiritual work, sometimes end up pretty messed up or fucked up in one way or another. There is a lot of shit to sift and sort through if you want to go beyond the normal, so hanging on to some kind of identity seems to be something that a lot of people get hung up on. Really, its very likely that this person is indeed channeling spiritual energy, but that doesn't mean they are being a useful channel for the collective. Its just a group of beings creating an experience together. Maybe you should look up shaktism. Its a goddess archetypal religion. Women wanting to be the goddess connect with the Magdalene archetype. I have even heard of the order of Magdalene, something like a group of people who are all 'Magdalene', like some people say they are Melchizedek, and im sure you know many people think they are jesus, satan, hitler, etc, whatever. Point is, don't take what people say so literally, words are just a vibration of sound in the mind. They can construct any reality.

Try to just see it as a spiritual lesson on sovereignty. What is this group energy exchange revealing to you about yourself, what lesson is needed for you to move past it. Groups create a sort of egragore of belief that has power, but isn't an accurate reflection of reality. New age is really bad about expecting some kind of savior archetype, and many people are happy to fulfill the role of savior, or victim needing to be saved.

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>>18885437
I've never heard of this, though it explains why I'm wary to put any names out there. While I'm not IN a group (not strictly Masonic) I'm close to one, and when all this drama was at it's peek, someone had prophetic dreams of a female spirit hovering over Jesus Bro, sapping the life out of him, making him turn his back on those who would help him.

There were also people within the group who claimed to be under attack in the Astral, like someone within the group had unleashed a destructive entity inside.


However, this woman claims to be all about love, grace and forgiveness. She recently posted under Jesus Bro's account, signing her name at the end, "A Master Knows that The Power of Love is the Only Thing That Lasts." It's hard to put into words how uneasy she makes me, but the feeling is undeniable. She says the most vague inspirational stuff, it's impossible to disagree with her, but there's something working underneath....

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>>18885439

>>18885439

You're on to something, but I have no intention of following this woman's teachings when I know so many other powerful women who have tapped into that Divine Feminine energy and are using to to heal and help the world. She literally believes she is the embodiment of the one true soul of the Magdalene, sovereign queen of the universe. She feels like a predator to me, preying on the weak minded who need something, anything to worship. But then she herself is preyed upon by men who wish to put themselves in the place of Jesus, St. John, etc. She is even connected, though unsure how deeply, with Adnan Oktar, the Islamic creationist of Turkey who believes women are sacred jewels that must be beautiful all the time. At first, I thought she was one of his "kittens," he literally calls them that, they're fucking terrifying brainwashed sacred whores he uses to blackmail people from all types of backgrounds... This is why I don't hate her, I feel bad for her. She's obviously really fucked up mentally, yet all these people confirm her delusion including her own father, who is an ex Mormon turned spiritual guru. I fully believe she's channeling something, but it's not consistent with any Magdalene / divine feminine energy I've encountered, which is a surprising amount. She wants ownership over the energy and disavows anyone using "her" name without being under her. She's helping people the same way any other self-identified prophet does: she doesn't actually help anyone, just provides a crutch while begging them to never leave.

>>18885312
> I'm 99% sure Mary incarnate wouldn't be begging people to hail her as the queen of the world.

Well, yeah, that's a pretty good instinct.

"Sophia" could have all sorts of reasons for doing what she's doing. People on /x/ claim to be deities all the time. Maybe she had a rough go of things before this. Maybe she had a mental break and really is a true believer. I doubt she's possessed or is possessing others.

You need to approach this more like a con job than a possession. Con men are successful because they prey on the weaknesses of other people. Weaknesses they don't want to admit to, like greed. Here it sounds like she's preying on the egos of men who want to be spiritual authorities. Your former bro is a mason. Masons are very hierarchical. Your bro may have foreseen a long career scraping the barrel of magical authority.

Why not just fuck "Sophia" and go straight to the top?

He strokes her ego and she strokes his. It might seem imbalanced because she's getting stroked by all of her followers. She only strokes him on occasion, but it's enough to keep him in it.

It's hard to pull someone out of a con. They have to admit they were deceived. By implication this means admitting to weakness. Frequently even people who know they were conned will still refuse to accept it. Listen to the stories of the poor bastards who were pulled into the late "Sexy Penpal" scam. However, if no one's getting legally hurt I doubt you can get law enforcement involved. Your options here are limited because it's your bro who needs to come to his senses.

I'd look into advice for family members of cultists if you care about the guy. That's probably your best bet for coping mechanisms and helpful hints. Otherwise, leave it be. Most of the time these sorts of things just eventually burn out. She'll be unable to make something happen she's promised, or she'll get in trouble for something actually illegal.

Just learn from this so you don't wind up like Mason bro.

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>>18885564
Thanks for your advice, I appreciate it. Many people have tried reaching out to Jesus Bro, but voicemails go strait to Mary. Seems most have resigned to a wanna-be celestial abusive relationship. I'm less connected with the Masons, came in as a 3rd party to witness the train wreck and to dig up deets on the Mary train after getting weird vibes from the local Bro who has all but disappeared in the dust. I think I've learned all I can from a sad situation, and while I haven't ruled out some sort of magic force at work here, there's no place for me other than a spy for a group with good intentions but hope to help until Jesus Bro snaps out of it and Mary gets the psychological help she needs.

Thanks for taking the time to respond, lord knows I'm the only one still beating this particular dead horse from a place of heart. They've got people like Chris Lasala >>18882009 mentioned hounding them for hogging all the Christ Conscious and hot(?) goddess wannabees.

>>18885603
good intentions but NO hope to help, I mean. I'm glad I'm not a part of the group officially, otherwise I'd be stepping on toes because they already think it's a lost cause. So thanks for helping put that into perspective a little more.

>>18885603
>>18885534
No problem. It's something this community struggles with too, so it's worth getting this all out there. But I do want to clarify that I'm not a pure materialist and just pissing all over any claims of spirituality. However, as far as astral shenanigans go here, it sounds like people are trying to make excuses for bad decisions.

X fell for her because she's really a witch! Not because X needed to believe that they were an important part of a privileged inner circle of adepts. Not because a cute girl with large fake tits sent X facebook messages and paid attention to X. Lust? Greed? X? Never.

She may be unleashing havoc in the astral, but if anything it's probably the spiritual reflection of her real-world conning. Not the source of it. As above, so below and all that.

Anyway, if I knew you I'd buy you a beer. Sounds like you're a good guy (with good taste) dealing with a mess. I hope things work out well for you, generally.

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>>18885676
Thanks man.

I don't personally work in the astral, but do you have any tips on how to protect oneself? One of my main concerns is how following this story is having an impact on my own mentality. I don't need to use /x/ as a therapy board, but following this story has given me a chance to realize and experience a few things about myself and my own relationship with a "Divine Feminine," but I don't want any residual energy from this Mary... So besides removing her from my radar which I should just go ahead and do right now, any other tips on how to redirect my concern for her into something more productive? Or is she just fulfilling a vision of some other dark archetype in my psychology only I can figure out how to overcome?