The very word conspiracy is repugnant. Say what you will about

>>18758871
That on the right is not Cobain.

>>18758897
OP here Cobain's body was cremated. who doesnt know this? lmgtfy? not to mention only a handful of pictures from the scene were ever published none showing his face. but ty for pointing that out.

>>18758916
Also- his face was intact, the wounds were not grotesque by all accounts the visible damage was minimal, strangely

The caliber wasn't big enough do that damage

>>18759591
I thought it was a shotgun? Unless it was a .410 or a different type of gun altogether, it seems very odd that the wounds would have been minimal. Also, does anyone remember hearing that Courtney Love's fingerprint was found on the gun, even tho Kurt had supposedly bought it while she was out of town? Or am I creating false memories?

>>18759606
This is now a Cobain conspiracy thread.

What motives would Love have for killing him? (I live under a rock when it comes to celebrities and their lives) Who else might have a motive, and who might have a motive for possibly planting her fingerprints on the gun, aside from just being a scapegoat?

>>18759633
There is a documentary in which the private investigator Love supposedly hired alleges that Cobain was murdered, potentially by Love herself. Personally I don't think the guy is using sound logic, but you can check it out and see what you think. I can't remember what it's called, but it's fairly new.

>>18759717
think its called soaked in bleach

>>18759585
>His face was intact
How? He shot himself with a fucking shotgun

>>18759758
maybe it was a .410 slug? That's my only theory.

>>18759774
google search says it was a 20 gauge. Also, that pic of the shotgun the cops released has a tiny barrel. Also it looks way too long, just saying

>>18759758
Wouldn't it just blow the back of his head out anyways?

>>18764008
Oh no. Shotgun to the face is brutal. It's as if you took a perfectly made cake and punched it as hard as you could. That's basically what a shotgun would do to your face.

#IndictCourtneyLove

>>18758871

that image is fucked considering kurt was most likely murdered (aka "suicided")

>>18764008
Nope. Shotguns absolutely obliterate the face. they literally reduce your skull to jelly, with all of the contents within leaking out. There is very little of your face left in order to identify you after getting shot by one.

>>18764128
How so? I'm enjoying the thread discussion. Never wanted anyone to think Cobain murder mug is out

>>18764045
im gonna tweet this everyday now

>>18759633
Money.

>>18760427
Reports indicate he pulled the trigger with his toe. But yeah even a 20 gauge at that proximity, would blow somebody up pretty badly. Just based on what I've seen one do to animals. I was hunting with my buddy, and he was driving deer for me while I waited in a tree. I had my old 12, and he was carrying a 20. Before he could even think a deer leapt out of the brush within an arm's reach, and he shot from the hip out of pure instinct. It fucked that deer up at that range, so imagine it the barrel was directly against it.

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>>18765372
>he pulled the trigger with his toe
>with his toe
>toe

Are you retarded?

>>18765388
Clearly you have never handled a firearm before, or you are retarded. A lot of suicides done with rifles or shotguns are done by pulling the trigger with the big toe in the sitting position.

>>18765398
He's saying Cobain was wearing shoes

>>18759633
Watch soaked in bleach, Kurt was murdered 100%, she had plenty of motive

>>18765414
In that case, it depends on the size of the trigger guard. Sorry, I don't usually put much effort into responding people who insult others for the hell of it. Everybody is tough on the internet.

>>18765438
Seriously, I have generally been a proponent of that theory, but that doc utilizes so many logical fallacies and inconsistent logic I think it does more to damage that theory than promote it.

>>18759752
I really hope not. That sounds so dumb outside the context of Come As You Are.

Her motive was money and fame. Kurt wanted to leave the music biz and spotlight and also to get a divorce and sole custody over their child. Because Cobain had Love sign a prenup, she would only get half from the divorce and because Cobain was in rehab and Love was not*, Cobain was way more likely to get custody. A musician came forward ad claimed Love offered him 50,000 USD to kill Cobain. He testified in court and was killed in a freak train accident before the case was complete. Love tried to make it seem as if Cobain had run away from rehab three days before his death and was trying to hide from the world, when in actuality he checked himself out after a friend visited him and actually signed autographs and met with a few people(friends and fans) during those three days. He also tried to get a hold of Love multiple times, but she claims this never happened(the hotel she was staying out claim they tried to direct his calls to her but she refused to accept). The investigator that did this movie was originally hired by Love for show, but he eventually came to realize it was a murder and left her service in order to unravel the yarn-ball so to speak. She tried to bribe him on multiple occasions to keep quiet. Cobain/Love's live in nanny was a close friend of Love long before she met Cobain and was staying at the same house that Cobain was found at the entire three days that Cobain was. He did not find the body even though it was his duty to take care of the premises. When asked to meet with authoriteis for questioning he was conveniently out of the state. The same authorities proimpted Love to contact him and get him to come back for an interview, which she did....but then reportedly called him back and urged him to avoid Washington until the case blew over.

I could go on. There really is a lot to the case that continually gets dismissed for who knows what reason.
>cont.

>>18766144
Most of the time, you can get a case reopened by simply asking, but this one has remained closed since it's initial close for some odd reason, even with all of the evidence pointing to foul play. I'm really a skeptic at heart(I believe in pretty much nothing I read on this board unless it's about how magic is not real), but the evidence against Love is just fucking ridiculously plentiful. I really believe she hired somebody to kill the poor man. All because he wanted out of her web, too. It's worth mentioning that she released an album like a week or two after he died and it was her best selling album ever. She also took the Lead for Lollapalooza gig that Cobain had turned down to her dismay shortly after his death.

and finally the * in post 1 was for this;
Love was in a rehab program that was well known for it's loose borders. She essentially left the country and stayed in a top class hoitel and shot up with one of her friends. Actually, a call from her hotel room claiming there was an overdose got the police called on her. She was briefly arrested and released. Kinda suspicious that the call came from in the room and that there was no overdose, but that stuff's more up to speculation. Nothing cement there that I recall, but it is an interesting note.

>>18766171
forgot to mention that nobody had overdosed. that's the part that makes it weird.

>>18765442
>Sorry, I don't usually put much effort into responding people

Indeed.

>>18766144
>>18766171
Holy shit

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>>18765442
>I don't usually put much effort into responding people who insult others for the hell of it.
>who insult others for the hell of it
>what you just did

>>18767502
How exactly did that anon insult the other anon just for the hell of it?

>>18766144
>>18766171
besides the fact that love is a fucking C lister for life and she got to play A list events and shit

>>18765442
Omg! I can't believe how stupid you actually are

>>18758871
o b j e c t p e r m a n e n c e 2 0 1 7

howling into the void cuz i just crystal charged and feel depressed

>>18769464
am i ever truly alone when posting on 'x'???

>>18769479
or am i too scared to not be alone fuvking up consciousness for everyone

>>18758916
They danced with his corpse at Bleitz Funeral Home...

Ask anyone living in Seattle and they know Courtney killed Kurt. There's a certain rumor going around. I don't live there but hopefully someone local ends up in this thread. This is interesting but it's pretty obvious that she used Kurt as a ladder to success and monetary gain. After Kurt started dating Courtney everything started to go downhill, with heroin and all these things. Kurt wasn't exactly clean before he met her but she worked as a catalyst (or even on purpose) for his drug addictions etc. It's fascinating how this case was ruled as suicide so easily.

>>18770329
And to add - she was a stripper with no name earlier in her life. Then listen how her first record sounds (shit). And when the second album came out after being together with Kurt, it sounds so different. Is that a coincidence? I don't think so.

But rumors are rumors and speculation speculation unfortunately still...

>>18759633
She's too dumb and needed him to get to the top. No way she would that early.

It was Grohl. Set it up to make Courtney look like she did it. He's sooooo nice and soooooo successful. Kurt didn't want the fame and Dave made good deals to the top.

I hate her but it's too easy. She's barely anyone today.

>>18758916
His body was witnessed by friends and family at his funeral. Aside from a hole in the roof of his mouth, there was only some swelling the the top of his head. Krist Novoselic said that they had a cloth over the top of his head covering his forehead and eyes, but that they fixed him up quite well. The gunshot was fairly weak and used to kill birds. Not to mention, you can clearly see his hair in the photos of his body and he was not shirtless.

>>18769499
This is only a delusional claim from Love during her downward spiral of depression and continued drug abuse following the years after. It was proven false. They didn't shave his head or carve fag into his body either.

>>18770329
As much as I want to believe he didn't do it, I can't.

I do however believe that her and others in the home possibly knew he was dead in the greenhouse, and maybe even tried to make the suicide more convincing to those that may doubt it. They just didn't say anything about it because they knew that they probably drove him to do it and freaked out. She blamed herself in interviews so it's possible.

Also odd that he chose to cover "My Best Friends Girl" at their final show when he decided to cancel. Her cheating on him destroyed him. All he wanted was a family, and no matter what, it wasn't happening. She made him feel like shit, on top of his already unstable and intense storm of emotions and drug addictions.

I still feel sorry for the guy. He was a great talent destroyed by vampires.

>>18770398
That's absolutely true, he was sucked dry by other people.

>>18770329
I lived in Seattle at the time and it's all a load of bullshit. Kurt was the one that got Courtney hooked on heroin, not the other way around. Besides, Cobain frequently ODed on heroin and it was clear he was going to die sooner or later anyway. It was ruled a suicide because that's clearly what it was.

>>18764184
Shotguns literally turn a person inside out melting them, and hurling them backwards thirty to fifty feet. I've seen a lot of movies.

>>18770445
You can cause explosions with shotgun. They were lucky the whole house didn't explode.

>>18770329
>Ask anyone living in Seattle and they know Courtney killed Kurt
What a retarded statement. People in Seattle know what? How do you fit an entire city with well over a million people into one house to watch what goes on between its residents.

>>18770363
Again.. thanks. Nothing new. but my bad for using beta pic

>>18770329
Seattlefag here. We pretty much forgot he existed at this point

>>18771061
No, you are too young to remember. That's the issue. Go out with the same generation, people who are 40+, they know.

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>>18770329
I don't buy that shit. Kurt had major hardcore depression. He even mentioned in his suicide note that it truly scared him that his daughter would grow up inheriting his miserable, depressed genes. Dude fucking named his daughter after the poster girl actress for depression, Frances Farmer ffs.

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>>18758916

guys hes not dead. hes the front man for weezer now

>>18771486
Is this from movie? If so which one?

>all these people claiming coutrney did it
>implying francess would be with her mom if she thought she did it
>implying after being around someone for 20 something years that you wouldn't be able to read them and know when they're lying
She actually commented about this a while ago when she was trying to integrate herself into society like a normal person and said she'd get messages non stop from people claiming her mother killed her father until she made every media profile of hers private and went back to being a recluse. I feel bad for her she never got to grow up having a father what a shitty thing.

>>18771518
he's titanic sinclair

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>>18758897

>>18771486
:) [y]

>>18758871
The man who claimed to have recieved a contract for Kobain was hit by a train. Soon after agreeing to talk about it.

>>18772254
That's weird thing but have you heard the band he was in? The lyrics are humorous but I don't know how serious they were...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNJacSjRAd0

Could be it was just drunken accident the guy, 'El Duce' didn't look like he was very healthy anyway...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2x4jmX6yoTs

>>18770474
I once exploded myself from using a shotgun it was scary lol

>>18772363
>You axed for it.

That hit in that special dumb place of my brain.

>>18770329
An old room mate of hers has a pretty big collection of her old notebooks. In at least one of them is a plan to meet a semistar on the rise, get him fucked up on heroin to the point that he's barely in control of himself and milk him for all she can. Written evidence is out there and the case remains closed.

>>18770441
>I lived in Seattle
So you knew them personally?

>Cobain frequently ODed
The one recorded time he ODed was in the presence of Love alone.
I haven't seen it in mentioned in this thread yet, but it always comes up eventually. Kurt NEVER claimed to be suicidal and never once attempted suicide. The one time someone made claims about him attempting suicide was actually the same one time that Love reported his OD. The thing is though, she and him both claimed it was a complete accident....until he died. After that Love made sure to tell everybody that that first OD was Kurt trying to kill himself.

Another strange thing about the case is how Kurt's supposed suicide letter is written in two different hand-writings. As in, one person wrote half of the note(Kurt) and somebody else wrote the second half. The first half has nothing to do with suicide. It sounds only like a letter to Love, making official their breaking up.

I don't claim to know who killed him, but it wasn't suicide. Even if none of this seems like sound evidence to you, than how do you explain him physically shooting himself? The gun was long enough that he would have had to pull the trigger with his toe, but he who shoes on both feet. On top of that, he had enough heroin in his system to kill a hardcore addict three times over, meaning that he was dead before the slug hit his head.

I'm just posting the facts. Interpret them however you like.

>>18772363
He was a sleaze ball of the highest caliber, for sure.

It's kimda strange that he chose to say something though. Could be he just wanted on the bandwagon, I mean it would have been great press....if he didn't die only days later. Some say there are no such thing as coincidences. That's total bullshit though, they happen all the time. But the timing to this one are particularly suspicious..

>>18774229
"No, I don't have a gun. Come as you are, as you were, as you want me to be."

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6YyDg9tT0Vw

>>18774540
*as I want you to be.

>>18774229https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6YyDg9tT0Vw

>>18774540
I don't think that line or song means what you think it means.
My interpretation has always been that Kurtr was playing the role of somebody that wanted sopmething from you. Constantly reassuring you that you're good just the way you are because to him you will always be what he wants(his prey). Saying he has no gu is him trying to reassure you that you're in good company so that you'll lower your guard when he's ready to strike.

The dude had some complex ideas that rarely translated easily, because he was also way into the idea of art being for the creator and not the audience. He didn't care what people thought of his music's meaning until he realized his ambiguous lyrics were more often than not leading kids to emulate the mopey anti-hero role he accidentally came across as. He hated this and rejected his success for it.

If you're a fan hyou should get a copy of his (edited) journals and catch some insight into the guys mind. He was resting potential incarnate, I tell you what.

>>18774540
also you could have quoted the song "I Hate Myself and want to Die" for more effect. Of course, this song was mostly parody, making fun of people who go through life with that woe-is-me mindset.

>>18764269

Watch 'Soaked in Bleach'

Kurt kobain became spaghetti

>>18775252
Cobain? More like lo mein amirite

>>18775252

Was it moms spaghetti?

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/k/ fag here, Cobain shit himself with a Remington Model 11 20 gauge shotgun with a cutts compensator

Never let me post earlier. But you could put a pencil or something in the trigger guard and set off the trigger with shoes on.

>>18775310

not really, it would be a juggling act -/k/

dont know if kurt shot himself or not but that was a long shotgun and kurt was a manlet it would have been challenging

>>18775265
>Cobain shit himself with a Remington

He put it up his butthole!?!?!?

He just wanted the world to see into his mind.......

>>18775265
>>18775332
/k/ is the best board that visits /x/ <3

They are helpful about guns and post innawoods stuff. And never post shitty political memes/opinions or porn.

>>18776909
yeah, /k/ is super awesome except when they eat cum

>>18777536
Oh god, the brownie incident.

So if it wasn't Love, who was it?

>>18781076
cobain

>>18775332
Juggling act? I'm a /k/omrade as well.... stop pretending it wouldn't be hard.

>>18783236
He just asked someone to do it.

The crazy band member story makes sense, he paid for it.

>>18783248
Glad you can confirm the exact "happenings" that took place.

>>18771473
She's a real human bean.

>>18771646
Bumping for sauce

>>18783570
I'm Cobain's shotgun AMA

>>18766171
>>18766144
Courtney Love is a CIA drug distribution asset.

How come every time a big rock star dies, there's some big conspiracy theory about it.

>>18789836
Not true, what about Bon Scott? Everyone knows he just passed out shit-faced and drowned in his own vomit.

>>18789836
look at the evidence. this isnt a conspiracy. its a false suicide.

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OP here. typo bugged me

>>18758871
>The very word conspiracy is >repugnant.

>Say what you will about conspiracy >theories but you must acknowledge >the theorizers ability to research and >document
> if not their hypothesis;

We may not all AGREE but /x/ is it not the evidence or stfu

tl;dr Courtney love Tom Grant

>>18765398

Moron

>>18767556

Referring to this post, Samefag.

>>18765398

>>18789980
Why?

there's a thousand ways to pull that trigger, guy lived like an angsty teenager, and killed himself when he wanted to, it's that hard to grasp?

Good, it means you are nearly as fucked up as he was, bad day to be Kurt Cobain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ123T3zD2k

>>18770363
>used to kill birds
have you seen the effect of 20 gauge birdshot at point-blank range?

>>18789998

I'm calling you a moron because he was wearing shoes and therefore would be impossible to use his toe to pull the trigger, you overzealous moron.

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>>18789992
But he didn't insult them just for the hell of it, and I'm not him. He did call them a retarded on a false pretense though.

>>18789304
her and tom delonge are the real X-Files mulder and scully.

>>18783795
i'd love to flick her bean if you know what i mean. i wonder if it smells like teen spirit.

>>18790000
He used a rope, tensed it, tied up on the other extreme and used his foot to pull the trigger and there's more options, he could have done it, that someone else did it for him, like it was a seppuku, could be.

>>18789877
Fuck, just looked it up. Should have thought of a better example.

>>18759774
>>18764008
Catastrophic injuries such as op's photo are not done by the projectile at all, but from the gas emitted during the combustion of the round escaping the barrel of the weapon. This isn't science surgery, is logic and basic knowledge.

>>18790153
BUT WHO WAS ROPE?!?

>>18791530
So the size of the projectile (and therefore the amount of propellant) has no impact at all, right?

>>18793898
Also, I know this is kinda apples and oranges, but what about President Kennedy, and the hunk of his head that went flying off?

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>>18765398
>>18765388
>>18765414

Maybe he put a rod inside the trigger guard, put the barrel in his mouth, and then jumped on it like a pogo stick

>>18793931
I like this theory the best

>>18793898
Did you not read what was said? The comment doesn't contain a PhD.

>>18758871

Remember when they found that handwriting kit in Courtney's bag?

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nirvana was shit, nothing of value was lost

>>18759758

He used bird-shot. Not as massively destructive as buck-shot. If he stuck the barrel against either his forehead or the side of his head, the face would still be intact.

>>18766144
>A musician came forward ad claimed Love offered him 50,000 USD to kill Cobain. He testified in court and was killed in a freak train accident before the case was complete.

You're thinking of El Duce from the Mentors. Here he is talking about it.

https://youtu.be/CbXZB9YDj3g

>>18769432

You've never put the toe of your shoe into a massively gigantic trigger guard?

>>18795288
Did you read what comments they were responding to? The comments don't 'contain' a PhD.
>contain

>>18764269
.....an read Who Killed Kurt. Among many, many weird "coincidences" the fucking coroner who examined Kurt's body had been very good friends with Courtney Love at one time (before she got with Kurt) and didn't think to announce this as maybe being a slight conflict of interest...and about a hundred more things.
Some people even think that the P.I Courtney hired was in on it...
>>18765372
He was wearing socks

>>18766144
Also don't forget how Love changed the narrative about the Rome rohypnol and champagne overdose. At the time it was reported as accidental but after he died Courtney started to frame it as a suicide attempt in interviews etc. "See?! He was ALWAYS suicidal!"

>>18790146
topkek, underrated post

>>18770398
Everyone always forgets Cobain's life was literally constant pain because of a back condition, which only got worse and worse as he wore that guitar in such a way as to put even more constant stress on it.

Some think it's why he did heroine, just as a pain killer.

>"Conspiracy" is repugnant
>Just means that people *conspire* to conceal the truth

How is that offensive? I'm a big conspiracyfag myself, but the word itself is pretty accurate, honestly.

>>18772363
Wasn't that the douche bag that claimed he 'raped' people on stage every show?

I remember seeing an interview with him in his hood and gwar in full regalia and gwar came off as much more "dude we have a blast, you know this shit is for the lulz" and El Douche came off as super into himself and "I'm hear to tear down your feeble normie society man!!!!"

>>18789836
The three big ones are
Elvis- Don't know why it's so unbelievable he died desu
Cobain- Lots of evidence he was murdered
Tupac- Died under some sketchy circumstances, and talked about faking his own death and many, many of his lyrics just before can be interrupted as him talking about he's going to fake his own death. Also things like some of his lyrics seem to reference events that happened AFTER he died.

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>>18800398
Bobby "I fought the law" Fuller also died under mysterious circumstances.

It was suspected a police officer retaliation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP9Xc9Nq4YU

>>18800398
>>18800415
Let's not forget >>18789877

>>18801207
And John Bonham

>>18801261
Graham Bond

>>18801290
Brian Jones

>>18801290
Yeah that's a dodgy one...thought he was Crowley's illegitimate son, didn't he?

>>18801869
Yes but, while possible, I'm sure it's a load of Bullocks. I loved his music though. I was introduced to GBO via the drumming of Ginger Baker

>>18801875
Yeah I'm of a mind with you on that one. On both things, the GBO was a fucking great band. Didn't he turn Ginger Baker on to junk as well?
Have you heard some of the stories his last wife, the black chick, tells about the recording of I think We But Our Magick On You, about the soundboard (?) going up in flames and performing "black magick" rites...like he forced his dhol player to drink perfume from a chalice which made him violently ill...I have a Mojo magazine with a really long feature on him somewhere, I'll have to dig it out

>>18801894
"Put"

>>18801894
No Baker was turned onto junk wayy before that... I can't remember when but I read his autobiography like five times, a couple years ago. I actually read it for the first time while detoxing, myself. Yeah I heard some weird shit about Bond later on, I don't know whether he was an initiate or not but he was certainly into some weird shit.

>>18801951
Fucking hell I could never read junkie biographies when I was detoxing! Are you some sort of masochist, kek?!?!
I didn't know that Baker was into junk before that..I keep meaning to watch that doco about him but I never make it all the way through for some reason.
Yeah apparently Bond didn't get into the occult 'til quite a bit later on in his life, did he...I think he was (maybe) a gifted dilettante or the stories are straight-up bullshit told to heighten his mystique. What do you think about his death? I remember the Mojo piece saying something about him either being chased or THINKING he was being chased by "Morrocan drug dealers" (apparently he wasn't on junk but smoked a lot of weed after his last habit) and blindly ran into this oncoming train...have you heard any other versions of his death? What's the biggest conspiracy theory surrounding it?

>>18801984
I don't know much about the conspiracies. He also liked to take a lot of acid, and Ginger said he was in a pretty dark place, mentally, around the time he died. Baker got introduced by a buddy back when he was still like, a teenager, and you could easily get scripts for cocaine and heroin filled. Basically, he bought some off a friend, liked it, went in and lied about being an addict, and boom...he gets a script for c and h.

>>18802031
Also, ever try reading Junky or Naked Lunch while detoxing? That's fun!

>>18802031
Yeah "hard" drug addicts in 50's/early 60's Britain had it fucking made, kek! Didn't know Baker was a teenager when he got turned on to junk. Fucking pharmaceutical speedballs, oof...!
And, nooooo, I have never, ever read ANY books with even a MENTION of junk in them whilst detoxing...you ARE a fucking masochist, I'm calling it!

>>18802069
Sado/masochist, you might say. It's the same psychology that led me to carry my rig around in my pocket for months after getting on subs...kind of a reminder of what NOT to do.

>>18802069
I mean, I think he was like 17-18.

>>18802107
I get you man. Like the recovered alcoholic who keeps a bottle of whiskey in his cupboard, yeah?

>>18802128
I guess, yea. I've never known one of those, personally, but I DO know a recovered alcoholic who is a bartender.

>>18802130
Yeah, it's more of a cliche example I guess but it's the same sort of idea, isn't it. And all the best to you and to your (continuing) recovery mate

>>18802137
Indeed. Thanks, the same to you!

>>18802141
Thanks man!

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>>18770336
The only person I have ever seen with this opinion!
I have never like Dave Grohl he just rubbed me the wrong way. I believe it was because he wanted the fame and fortune and was over Kurt's nonsense.
Maybe Courtney was involved too I mean the mutual hate could be a front to cover their tracks further... anyway very obvious foul play and the fact that ol Davey likes to dress up as the devil often doesn't sit well with my trust of him....
Foo Fighters suck and I hope that nigger reads this.

One thing left out, in the Kurt & Courtney documentary it's brought up that the prints were wiped from the shell and the trigger. How does a dead guy wipe the prints from the trigger?

>>18800287
he did drugs because he had an undiagnosable stomach problem which caused him constant pain. the only thing wrong with his back was that he threw it out getting your mom pregnant you fucking bitch

>>18793931
While he was on four times a lethal dose of heroin

>>18770336
...but she's a very rich "barely anyone", yes? I like to keep an pen mind though, I suppose Grohl COULD have had something to do with it.

>>18770398
Who did she cheat on him with?

>>18774229
You're talking about the Rome champagne and rohypnol incident I mentioned, yes? It was reported at the time (by Kurt's management team or PR people or whatever) as an accidental overdose, I don't think he was even "properly" addicted to heroin at that time but was just a "chippie junkie". So, yeah, accidental overdose that, after Kurt died, Love started to subtly change the narrative in interviews etc to make it out to be a genuine suicide attempt. She was the one who called the ambulance (or the hotel doctor, I can't remember), I believe this was just after Nevermind started to blow up. I have a copy of Who Killed Kurt somewhere, I really need to find the fucker. Soaked In Bleach thanks the two journalists who wrote it--the film covers a lot but the book is even more exhaustive in it's research.

>>18802907
That's called tolerance. The average addict can handle what would be a "lethal" dose to an average non-opiate user. *Frequently* several times the standard "lethal" dose can be tolerated in a long-term addict.

>>18803246
No, the dose would have killed even someone with a VERY heavy habit. The "Golden Shot" theory, the junk crosses the blood/brain barrier so fast that you're either completely incapacitated in 5-10 seconds or just die. Either way he couldn't have picked up that shotgun. Nick Broomfield doc "equivalency test" he did with that guy in a lab was bullshit, they gave the guy ORAL METHADONE. That's not going to faithfully re-create Kurt's shot fr two reasons, a) the guy wasn't Kurt and b) Kurt was an intravenous STREET heroin user--black tar in this instance, I believe.

>>18803246
>>18803798

you ALSO need to account for the fact kurt was fresh out of rehab and tolerance to heroin drops massively

hence why so many addicts OD and die when they relapse, because they just shoot up their usual dose prior to rehab and it ends up being too much due to the tolerance dropping

>>18803823
Yup, very true mate

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>>18759633
Because he opposed the moral degeneracy the grunge scene was espousing.

The degenerate weak shit of sjw grunge such as Le Tigre would be absolutely BTFO by nirvana.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICM24YntscM

>>18804946
That's weird 'cause he was good friends with Kathleen Hanna and hated homphobia.
I guess you've never seen the Saturday Night Live performance where the band kisses each other deeply on the mouth, in turn, "to piss off the homophobes and jocks". And one of Kurt's favourite bands was MDC (Millions of Dead Cops), he dug scat and piss porn and was overjoyed the first time a black fan of his music approached him because he worried about his music "only being appealing to white people". Does that sound like someone who "opposed "moral degeneracy""?! I'm not even a Nirvana fan and I know this.

>>18806144
Obviously you have a VERY different idea of what moral degeneracy is than some of us others.

>>18806334
Nah you said Kurt "opposed the moral degeneracy the grunge scene was espousing", in what we did he oppose this? Don't make it about MY views when you're the one who made the initial statement. Again, HOW was Kurt opposed to this "moral degeneracy"?

>>18806380
I'm not that anon.

>>18806386
Well stfu then , daft cunt

>>18770329
Lived in seattle all my life, wasn't old enough to be there when it all went down, but some of my older friends have told me the story and it always essentially goes like this
>Courtney was a massive whore who literally fucked her dealer for heroin
>Tries to start a bunch of shitty bands long after the first kick off of the grunge scene
>Starts going to nirvana shows and tags along with them eventually fucking enough people to get to kurt and get her hooks in him
>gets him hooked on heroin(he previously only smoked weed and occasionally did speed of various types)
>Eventually band gets massively popular and kurt grows tired of her druggy ways and feminist bullshit
>he also hates the fame and wants to be a smaller club band like they used to be
>Courtney starts saying kurt is suicidal out of nowhere when people around him say he was the happiest he's ever been
>all the while she's being sketchy as fuck
>people ask kurt if he is he says no, can't get into contact with courtney either, she's probably just having another episode of crazy which at this point happens all the time
>Kurt ends up dead courtney conveniently soaks up all the media press even though kurt was trying to leave her, and her album sales skyrocket

Basically everyone here knows courtney did it, people that talked to kurt before and after saw him much happier, more like how he had been before the band got insanely famous.

>>18806396
I bet it compensates for your shortcomings when you act tough and talk shit online.

>>18806434
Nope, you're just adding sweet fuck-all to an otherwise interesting thread

>>18806444
The poster was equating acceptance of homosexuality, acceptance of other races, and rejection of the then-status quo as moral degeneracy.

>>18806498
Yes I surmised that...hence my refutation. Nirvana also played AIDS fundraising charity gigs, doesn't sound to me like someone who's against "moral degeneracy".

>>18806524
You know they're raising the money to support the people with AIDS, and not to support the AIDS virus, right? That's what those fundraisers are for!

>>18806524
Yeah fuck all those sick aids patients.
All degenerate faggots I say, lets just light them on fire like the bundles of sticks they are.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I feel like homophobes are just angry that fags get more dick than they can

>>18806533
Yes, I'm in total fucking agreement with you dude! How did you infer otherwise from my post, is my grammar as bad as I think it is?!
>>18806539
Yes! Am I not writing in English?! Why was my post so ambiguous?!
>>18806595
See above

>>18806533
>>18806539
>>18806595
I'm >>18806444, >>18806396, >>18806380 btw

>>18804946
Where does smells like teen spirit come from you ignorant cunt

>>18806745
Yeah, that's a fairly sjw song... is that what you mean?

>>18806751
Ffs
She spray painted Kurt smells like teen spirit on his wall.

>>18806761
Well, it comes from a deodorant advertisement but you're technically right (not that >>18806751
Anon btw). Sorry to be a pedantic prick

>>18806777
I know the TITLE of the song comes from a deodorant...but it's used as a play on words to make a point...so yeah, I guess we're both right.

>>18806780
Yeah. For the record I was absolutely disagreeing with >>18804946 in this (>>18806144) post, I know those things are not "morally degenerate" at all, I must have explained myself really badly for others to infer that I'm some kind of /pol/ack. Thanks dude

>>18806787
Yeah, there was a communication breakdown. It happens all the time online. If people would take a minute and consider how they would talk to people to their face, rather than throw petty insults and scream "shill" every time someone disagrees, this would be a much more productive board. The way I see some people interact on here, it's like they're from /pol/ AND /b/

>>18806801
Which, BTW, I am guilty of occasionally, myself.

>>18806801
Thank you, heh I'm guilty of that too on occasion. You're right you know, I think that's the key, "how people would talk to their face". I'm not being sarcastic at all so please don't think I am but posts like yours give me a warm glow. That sounds lame but I don't give a fuck!

(And I think the term "SJW" is totally fucking useless, the "alt-right" are SJW's, too...it signifies absolutely nothing at this point in time)

>>18806828
I'm glad! I feel the same way!

>>18806939
Me too, posts like this give me a little more faith in humanity! (smiley face)

>>18789998
>not posting best version
You must hate music, friend.

https://youtu.be/0O1v_7T6p8U

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>tfw you realize it was a mobile task force from the SCP foundation all along

>>18807018
So THATS who killed Tupac

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>>18807018

Was there any herion needles or kits in the green house when he died?

>>18759606
He used Birdshot. Not buck, slug or anything that would have tore his skull apart

>>18758871
He shot himself with birdshot. There were 4 tiny holes on the side of his face that were hard to see he didn't blow his head off

>>18759758
He used bird shot. The pellets are tiny in those shells. The holes on his face were actually hard to see they were so miniscule

>>18809777
>>18809808
>>18809819
That is not how it works at point-blank range

>>18770445
>I've seen a lot of movies
This is the problem in this thread. I'm an armed guard and can tell you there's plenty of different ammo types and his head injuries were very minor

>>18771473
This is all true. However, the amount of heroin in his bloodstream would not have allowed for him to move from that chair let alone grab his shotgun and shoot himself

>>18758871
The fuck are you even going on about?

>>18800330
He was a badass

Conspiracy literally means 3 people or something like that. Its like using the word google as a verb.

>>18809830
Is too. I've seen it

>>18809830
he had an open casket funeral, with the top of hid face and eyes covered so no one sees the small, albeit THERE, holes.

his face wasnt blown off you dumb cunt not everything is a movie

go watch that isis slow mo shotgun execution, do you think those cunts used birdshot? no. Yet when they shot a cunt point blank to the face was it blown off? no.

>>18809866
Nah. Just a fatass. And a pathological attention-seeking liar. Only thing was that he sucked at it. The people that interviewed him knew he was full of shit so they just played it straight and played along with his politically incorrect shenanigans. Seeing him do interviews is like watching a WWE interview, The interviewer is fake, Duce was fake, it was all fake and gay

>>18758871
Kurt Cobain actually had a skin disorder like Michael Jackson but the opposite, he staged his death and became Tupac, then after he invented a cure for his disorder he staged his death again and became Eminem.

a bump of cobain

>>18807018
no wai

Cobain had BPD.

>>18809852

That was debunked. Someone took twice the dosage and could stand on one leg.

Next.

>>18809874
>Conspiracy literally means 3 people or something like that.

False. It means to "spire" together. Two is enough for a conspiracy.

>>18811069
>Yet when they shot a cunt point blank to the face was it blown off? no.

Please don't prove him wrong with those slowmo videos.

>instant cartoonification
>no dignified death
>you are now a Looney Toon

>>18809819
>He used bird shot. The pellets are tiny in those shells. The holes on his face were actually hard to see they were so miniscule


/k/ here again thats bullshit. the shot has to spread out to cause pin holes. I found it odd that they claim his face was intact also. The only thing i can think of is that he stuck the shotgun in his mouth and blew a hole out the base of his skull. He would not have bird shot pinholes unless someone else shot him from a distance. I know people who have family that have been shot in the face with birdshot (from a distance) accidentally and purposely and survived. birdshot acts just like a slug at point blank ranges at 60 yards you could survive low power #8 wearing a heavy coat.

>>18816225
its right there in the documents u scp shill

What was the point of this thread again?

im fine with seeing something someone dying but i genuinely got a little sad seeing this pic.

>>18770333
There is no such thing as coincidence, John

Do you think that in order for a band or artist to be successful they need some sort of sacrifice? Like AC/DC had Bon Scott, RHCP had Hillel Slovak, Lynryd Skynryd had the brothers, Rolling Stones had Brian Jones, Eric Clapton had his Son, and what about those who become immortalized in music when they die at 27 like Jimi Hendrix and Jim Morrison?

>>18821547
The fact that there are successful bands today without some fucked up backstory disproves your point.

>>18818908
Good question

>>18759633

Fucking shekels man.

I remember a documentary called who killed Kurt Cobain in wich the reporter interviews a guy with the nickname el duce and he supposedly knew who had killed Kurt,he also says Courtney offered him the job but denied. Some time after the documentary was released we was found dead.

>>18823823
You can also her women screaming for help in his house. Possibly prostitutes. There's another video of him talking about it somewhere, but it's hard to hear him because all the drunk jackasses in the house won't shut the fuck up.

>>18809852
He had a 400 dollar a day habit. Tolerance to drugs is a thing, man.

Some people can take a certain amount of a drug and be basically comatose, while another can be completely up and about, or at the very least just normal.

>>18823852

https://youtu.be/Ho2nK5IQs_g

You can hear pretty clear "help us"

>>18816346
>>18823865

His credit card was used before he was found wtf

>>18823867
I don't hear it

>>18825667

Around 2:57 before he screams at the camera.

he could not deal with the heroin withdrawals so he shot himself.

anyone ever been dope sick? dope sick from a 400 dollar a day heroin habit. That is basically hell.

there is no conspiracy....methadone is addictive.

heroin kills.

>>18825802
Why in the world would Kurt Cobain ever have had to go without? He was found with his rig and a big ol bag of skagg. I highly doubt he killed himself because he was dopesick.

>>18802175
This>>18802319

Kurt Cobain? More like
Ow My Brain