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DEMONIC POSSESSIONS

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Can you tell if a person is possessed by demons just by looking at their face.What are the exterior signs of demonic possession.
Can you see it in their eyes or hear it in their voice?
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>>18629193
I think I have seen it. Its in peoples eyes and behavior. I think there are tells. In the eyes you will see a malevolence and at the same time a sort of emptiness or absence. Like a hallow deadness to the eyes in general with a sort or strange dancing glint. It just looks abnormal for the individual. In my experience the person who I saw this with was an alcoholic and when he was drunk flipping out trying to attacked me I looked into his eye and tried to reason with him. I could see there was some sort of dark twisted light in his eyes driving his actions. He tried to attack me verbally and physically trying to cause me harm and stress.
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>>18629254
man that's sounds freaky seeing creepy shit in persons eyes
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>>18629254
>I could see there was some sort of dark twisted light in his eyes driving his actions. He tried to attack me verbally and physically trying to cause me harm and stress.

I thought it was already universally known that both of those things caused harm and stress.
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>>18629193
>In my experience the person who I saw this with was an alcoholic and when he was drunk flipping out
but I'm sure that sober people also get possessed by demons or you think only drunk or under influence of drugs
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>>18629193
He murdered Ramona in cold blood.
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>>18629193
Yeah I can make some shit up like
>>18629254
But that's not hard, anybody can do that
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>>18630921
was he possessed by demons you think

>>18630965
it sounds very convincing to me.
I saw people who were drunk and were acting extremely strange way past just being piss drunk
and in couple of cases their voices sounded very creepy and scary,I didn't really look into their eyes so can't relate to that.
I think demons can easier possess drunk person because drunks have their senses influenced by alcohol.
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>>18629193
This dude is just old. It not like altzhimers=demonic possession
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>>18630999
do you think that old people can not be possessed by demons
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>>18629193
I've experienced similar events with drunks or ex alcoholics. Their is a blackness in their eyes when it happens. They may not necessarily be "demonically" possessed, it may just be a spirit stuck in the astral (4th dimension) that can't let go of its ways.. But a creepy story of my own---
Mom got with step dad, did a lot of drugs. Alcohol, coke, method, pills, etc. Basically anything. Even huffing freon. But he would get high on xanex, and go into the kitchen and talk to himself in the dark. Did this for 3 years. Fucked up part, is I would generally formulate questions or tell whatever was causing it in my head to fuck off, and aimed it at him. Never actually said anything. But he would reply with shit like "I don't fucking care, or you'll never do shit you're worthless etc." Fucking scared me the first couple of times. The reason I would he in there is because I was stuck in a situation where I had to live in the dining room while I was repairing my house. He would do this all the time like 3 days a week, never would remember it, and was usually early in the morning between like 1 and 4. I would be up playing video games on my laptop at the dining room table beside my cot lol. Fast forward, mom kicks him out, new guy comes in. Guy also does pills and has been an alcoholic for his entire life. Gets high on xanex, AND WOULD WALK INTO THE KITCHEN AND DO THE SAME FUCKING SHIT. If that's not /x/ worthy, I'm not sure what is... Anyway, he's gone now. Last thing we heard from him was a voicemail about how he was going to come kill all of us because of us kicking him out. My mom has shit tastes in men. I honestly think it was her attracting these entities....but something turned up later on... The arson and theft of the shit in my house(the burglers were so high when they set fires, they closed the door and they smoked themselves out! Lol) turned out later to have been my first step dad high on meth. Fucking spooky shit /x/. The truth was... They were after me.
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>>18630921
who did? the dog
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>>18632173
Perhaps I'll post a long version later tonight or tomo. But how fucked up is that? Whatever it was wouldn't actually confront me short of saying shit like I mentioned in that last post, but when I left that's when shit would happen. Shit would be out of place, drawers would have been rummaged through, shit in my dining room corner scattered at times.. Obviously it was my step dad but he could never remember, and it would happen when no one else was around. But he would stand in the kitchen doing that sometimes for hours. First couple of times I would turn the light on and he would act confused and go back to his room, or mom would tell him to come to bed, and he would quit talking indirectly to me. It got to a point where I was confronting him when he was sober and he acted like he honestly didn't know anything about it. Later on after we figured out it was him and his buddies that burnt my house, he began to act weird towards me. I guess he actually remembered the incident but didnt have thr balls to tell me. The guy that also helped burn my house confessed after he was in jail that he and my step dad did it, but that something was wrong with my stepdad that day. Like "eerily" wrong. Guess that explains it. The second step dad was also I violent offender, and my younger siblings said that he would constantly get a deep grumble in his voice and would say nasty shit about me when I was gone. But he would always back down or leave when I told him I was gonna kick his ass. Few days would go by, mom would let him back in, he'd be alright, same shit would start with him getting high and going in the kitchen. I never threw them out or beat them in this state, as I was more curious about the paranormal part of the situation. Maybe I was just scared to confront a ghost/demon. Idk. Maybe things would've been different if I had. I was younger back then, so I don't reflect on my actions negatively. I was a kid at the time compared to now.
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>>18629193
http://www.shatterthedarkness.net/
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>>18632173
that is scary shit to witness anon
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>>18632213
sounds like perfect example of demonic possession too many creepy aspects to it to be just regular tripping
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>>18632223
Tell me about it. Looking back I know what caused it. I was getting deep into conspiracies, and deep into the occult. Never actually practiced anything, but I imagine they were sent to "persuade" me to stay away. Guess i was finding all the right links. I've always been of sound mind, so I'm doubtful that I'm crazy. I'm sure there are crazies out there that say the same though. To anyone out there who has something like this happen to them, you can actually demonstrate to yourself that your finding the right paths, by how much these things happen at times. If you're of sound mind and not influencable, they occur more often. If your not of sound mind, they won't happen, even in front of others, because you're doing it to yourself, your scaring yourself away. But you will notice that if you go hiatus for a while, and stop researching, they go away. Do this enough off and on, and you just might decide that you're not "placebo-ing" yourself.
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>>18629254
>In the eyes you will see a malevolence and at the same time a sort of emptiness or absence. Like a hallow deadness to the eyes in general
I think that I see that in this guys eyes actually
>>18629193
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Can you say if this fucker is possessed?
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>>18632916
NOT REALLY
BUT THIS FUCKER IS FOR SURE >>18629193
JUST LOOK AT HIS FACE
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>>18629193
Do you guys think that he might have a look of a murderer on his face that was or still is possessed by demons,
is it possible that there something of a guilty look on his face and in his eyes.
Look on his face gives me creeps. I think he is hiding something.
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21stCM watch out few months ago JesusJuice was complaining that he has Aids and no money for proper medicine.
So you 21 must use condoms otherwise demons will transfer Aids to your mouth or your ass.
JesusJuice is withering rather rapidly from his illness.
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>>18633491
>>18633536
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JesusJuice hates white people and Donald Trump
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Demons are infiltrating, here JesusJuice is confessing
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>>18633491
Why don't you back to fucking your yaks. If there is anybody possessed by demons, it's you.
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>>18633607
hey 21st did Demons drove you to push your brother to end his life so you can collect family inheritance
you fucking scum bag of a brother.
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JesusJuice is possessed by demons of fucking males in the ass.
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>>18633617
How very Christian of you calling my brother a scumbag when you didn't even know him. Fuck off, yakman.
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21st is a HUGE Hypocrite.
21st, remember when you were cought by JesusJuice for denying that you posted that horse porn picture in ArtBell's thread
and JesusJuice give you shit for it when you were switching pictures and you were trying to pin this on theONE
but you were cought in a massive lie.

YOU ARE SUCH A MASSIVE HYPOCRITE 21st you should just follow your brother and end your life this week.
21st you are indeed possessed by DEMONS, no question about it now.
After driving your brother to death so you can collect family inheritance this is very evil 21st, VERY EVIL
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>>18633649
21st don't play your demonic games.
I called you a scum bag, you being scum bag of a brother to your own brother so you can profit from his death.

21st you twisting truth again you demon infested turd, go and kill yourself already. Make your wife free woman.
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>>18633657
LOL. That is some narrative you've got there. I'm not going over that old shit. I apologized for that photo shit but you know nothing about forgiveness. Go suck an egg.
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>>18633666
21st, look at your digits, it proves that you are possessed by DEMONS.
YOU ARE SERVING 666 even your post proves that, stop denying your dark side.

21st, you have blood of your brother on your hands.
you were jealous of him - you snitched to your parents on your brother you human scumbag.
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>>18633682
Hey, can I get the story here? I've actually seen y'all arguing before, and it's always in threads with this old dude. What in the fuck is the story?
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Hey little girls coming back to Bellgab and fucking openly with you turds is one of my many joys.
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>>18633682
lol. whatever man. My brother died from AIDS and I was there with him as was my mother when he died. Stop making up shit.
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>so much namefaggotry itt
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>>18629193
Having seen two go deep south. The straining and screaming can lead to burst blood vessels causing eyes to go red, muscle contraction and instinctive scratching at the skin gives a gaunt, worn appearance these symptoms are distinctively human. It's the voice that sounds unholy and other worldly.
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>>18633720
It's a sad story of 21st betraying his own older brother and driving him to end his life.
21st was always jealous of love and attention his older brother was getting from his parents.
Aids was final result of his brother death but 21st was instrumental in creating negative atmosphere at home
and his brother started using drugs and booze and all that weird life style to escape that pressure that this little piss 21st was creating
by constantly blaming things on his brother to save his skin.

Same as with trying to lie with switching horses porn pictures and blaming on theONE,... 21st was doing same shit
to his own older brother that little snitch.
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>>18633763
DEMONS driving one brother to snitch on another brother and 21st CenturyMan from Bellgab is that demon infested brother,
he is that person who is trying to get acceptance on Bellgab at any cost, even at cost of lying and setting up others to be accused
of something that 21st actually did.

Only when 21st got cought with screen captured posts only then he reluctantly admitted,
but before that he was sending theONE PM messages threatening with snitching to MV and in mean time posting on Bellgab
denying that he posted those pictures.
Only scumbag will go to such extends as 21st went to avoid responsibilities.
His whole life he is acting that way, he started with his older brother.

He is a waste of oxygen on this Earth, people like 21st go to Courts put hand on the Bible swear to tell the truth
but lie and shift the blame on others to save their skin to avoid punishment and innocent people go to jail or get death penalty
because of turds like 21stCenturyMan.
That's the real personality that he has.

Of course when he gets caught with obvious lies he apologizes thinking that gives him free bill.
No 21st, you DEMON possessed scum bag, you doing this not for the first time, you did it many-many times before and it was you
who drove your older brother to this tragic end.
You should end also you douche.

Evil with his Demons are guiding your actions 21st CenturyMan.
You are full of lies and deceive.
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Hi Dr.MD MD
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SV read pg.42 on: The people that we miss on the awesome forum.
you too SV are possessed with demons.
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The real question that needs answering is which senior citizen is akwilly slipping the nail to?
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>>18633918
more real question is how many alt accounts theONE has on bellgab
he terrorizes bellgab
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If you good as theONE is you can use different typing styles and use different English to create real havoc and drive bg insane for long time
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>>18629254
Think he was just drunk
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SredniVashtar is the English cabron who has very feminine voice, man he sound it like a little girl on Gabcast few months ago.
I would be ashamed to open my mouth in public. He sounds like he has female demon inside of him.
And constantly hates Americans,constantly dumps on USA in his posts.
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>>18629254
Holy shit.
I am a recovering alcoholic, but the other night I broke down and got trashed for the first time in 6 months. I have developed alcoholic neuropathy and my tremors woke my SO sometime around 4am.
Once she started bitching she says I looked into her eyes, for in her face and told her I was a demon who entered her life only to prolong and enhance misery. She said she'd never seen my eyes so dark before. I have no memory of this, and I'm a seasoned drinker - rarely blackout.
Even more concerning is the fact that black magic and animal sacrifice were performed on this property by previous tenants.
Is temporary possession a thing?
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>>18634002
>Is temporary possession a thing?
akwilly, there is no such thing as temporary possession.
Demons will not voluntary leave you.
Unless you relating to "temporary" possession as happening only when you are drunk then yes it will manifest and magnify
when you get drunk.
Besides AA and help from God I don't think you alone can stop drinking for good or to always get drunk like a skunk having no limit.
It could be done by prayers and strong will but it takes very strong personality and very strong spirit inside you to do it alone,
best is to do it with help from others like AA or praying by yourself to God and good idea is fasting for few days.

There is spiritual powers to be gained when fasting.Bible for example talks about it, especially when Jesus was casting out demons
he was advising fasting.
You can google all that and learn about it.
Otherwise demonic energies will star manifesting even when you are sober.
Act on it or you will be going deeper and deeper into their net of evil influence.
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>>18630995
Demons? Lol no. He was possessed by an insatiable thirst for young asian pussay.
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Exemplore»The Paranormal»Angels & Demons
Things That Attract Demons and Signs Your Home Is Haunted.

https://exemplore.com/paranormal/Demonic-Hauntings-Signs-Your-Home-is-Haunted-by-a-Demon-and-Things-that-Attract-Demons
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>>18632916
He looks like my late grandfather. Maybe.
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>>18632916
yes there is something not real the way his eyes are focusing his empty stare looks similar to this guy's expression
>>18629193
Is it being a sociopath and possessed by demons the same?
Sociopath Stare and Psychopath Eyes major red flags of personality disorder.
http://flyingmonkeysdenied.com/2016/06/02/sociopath-stare-and-psychopath-eyes-major-red-flag-aspd-by-nature/

When a Sociopath stares, it’s known as giving people “The Look”. It’s a true psychological predictor of Anti-Social tendencies, known as the “Sociopathic Stare” in self help
and academic themed psychology circles.
All people with traits of Anti-Social Personality Disorder tend to give other people the look or sociopathic stare for a variety of reasons but in most cases it’s typically related to asserting
their predatory nature as self-perceived pack animals.
But only those who intellectually or physically consider themselves to be dominant tend to make the predatory stare a psychic calling card of sorts while compulsively striving to enmesh with prey.
The more Alpha the person, the more likely they are to pull “50 Shades of Gray” Alpha sub-dom routines when posturing socially or professionally on any given day.

Sometimes people call the look making “snake eyes”, reporting the slight sneer coupled with a hint of glare, while other tend to describe it as more of a “shark look” or “reptilian gaze”.
Whatever the case, if you spot someone making the face at you or while looking at another person, understand what you have seen is more than likely the telltale hallmark of a person
with an Anti-Social Personality Disorder — a person to be socially avoided if at all possible to avoid being targeted to suffer their wrath someday.
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Very interesting video showing examples how to spot demonic possession by looking into persons eyes.

Identifying Demonically Possessed People; #Zesty;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-RI1MyAJqA

Demons 101: Identifying Demonically Possessed People: This is a quick tutorial of How to Identify Possessed People through the Lamp of their Body, their eye.
Disclaimer-NOTE; There are some diseases,low-light settings, and drugs that may cause dilated pupils...However...you cannot deny the following evidence. #Zesty, #possessed, #ZESTY,

Luke 11:34
34. "The lamp of the body is the eye. Therefore, when your eye is good, your whole body also is full of light. But when your eye is bad, your body also is full of darkness."
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>>18629193
>>18632916
is it possible to be a sociopath and demon possessed at the same time
are they the same thing
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>>18636252
i think they are
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Jackstar should move from Seattle to Chicago or JesusJuice from Chicago to Seattle and since both of them are gays
they could form nice lasting sexual-romantic relationship and try to get exorcism done on both of them to free them from
all those evil spirits that are possessing their minds and bodies.
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>>18632173
I think drugs can take us on some weird interdimensional journeys. Why do we assume that these places aren't real just because they aren't on the same plane of existence? Ever trip out with your friends and have a shared experience? This doesn't sound that crazy to me desu
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Amy's show was nothing special.Waste of time and internet data.
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>>18634002
Alcohol opens your faculties to spiritual possession. It opens up gaps in your energetic body for various hungry entities to enter. They will then manipulate you to acts of debauchery so as to experience the things they long for through you.

Hence why alcohol is called "spirits".

I would reccomend ritualistic baths everyday for at least a month. Burn white sage and smudge your body and your environment. Pray and read Psalms out loud. Maybe learn a banishing ritual such as the LBRP.

Moreover, remember that you are always in the driver's seat. Spirits can't make you drink, they can only encourage you to do so.

Good luck, Anon.
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Amy sucked ass big time tonight
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This is Ciardelo worst evil despicable person not only on bellgab but on the whole Planet
he is filled with anger violent physical aggression (just ask his ex wife) and bitter spirit.
Demons for sure possess his body mind and soul.
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Yea, you could do all that shit everybody does with magic and biblical chants. But id save it for something like a haunted area/object. Don't listen to people who say you can't do it alone, bla bla bla. Sure it helps to have someone who knows what they're doing, but you shouldn't underestimate yourself. You alone is all you need. A single person is stronger than any spirit or demon. The problem is "knowing" that at the core of yourself. It was the Greeks I believe that said a sound mind and body would protect you from spirits in the first place, and if you did have a "hole or gap" that was letting the entity in, straightening up your health, personality, and attitude should prevent it/make it stop, and eventually force it to leave as its no longer resonant with you as you become whole again. Remember that you ARE god experiencing itself through your eyes, you create reality, you/god created everything you see, but at the end of the day, people forget that after he created everything else, god created humans as his last perfected idea, and lives through them. Humans are perfect, and as such cannot lose their power of their domain, unless they give it up. Even then, they actually only let it be borrowed, and can reclaim it at any time from astral shells, demons, other humans, or the human condition at large. Its your birthright.
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Ciardelo rhymes with Fartdelo
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>>18637413
bunch of stupid New Age nonsense
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>>18637358
No, that's Micheal Weston, and he used to be a spy
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Ciardelo is like a second Jackstar on bellgab.
He is posting similar style stupid and empty posts.
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>>18636252
Yes, but no they're not the same thing. Sociopaths are just spiritually broken for whatever reason. They are either not connected to spirit, and thus only have a consciousness in the head and a lower consciousness controlling the body, or are spiritually handicapped by their spirit for a life lesson, possibly karmic. This is why they are animalistic cut throats like the gnostic archons. Possessed people may also have the sociopathic problems, thus making it easy for a astral shell/spirit or demon to attach, or they could be a fully functional person that is either so messed up in the head due to life situations or whatever that they accidentally allowed them to attach. Sometimes this is temporary, as in the case of alcoholics. Keep in mind that in the alcoholic case, the person may sober up and become normal again, but may still he resonant with the spirit/demon, and thus could be easily influenced to drink to get into that state of mind to allow possession to reoccur. It should be resisted at all costs.
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>>18636654
I have done many drugs in my time, and i would agree that those places do exist, on these occasions when this would occur however I was sober. I can assure you, both of my stepdads were possessed.
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>>18637448
You are complicating things to the point that it becomes idiotic and makes no sense or very little sense.
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>>18637432
Yea, I said to avoid it and realize you have more power than anything else. Perhaps I wasn't clear enough.
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>>18637460
I didn't make anything complicated. Sometimes sociopaths are just sociopaths, and sometimes possessed people happen to be sociopaths. But just because someone has possession problems, does not mean they are sociopaths. They could be normal people going through a hard time. Simpler for you?
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spirits and demons and witches and whatnot need to stay synced to a host. they need to know what they are doing enough to create the story on their side of the affair and keep in touch thereby. because knowing what someone is doing remotely is difficult, they create a habitual movement which they resort to in order to keep synced.

look for a tic like movement, or a behavioural action people do every now and again.

an example is Derren Brown's little nod thing that he does. that's definitely someone keeping sync with him. I don't know if he is aware of them or not, he probably is, hes probably wrapped up in some sort of deal with a demon or something. this isn't necessarily a bad move, but if you're not on your game with it you'll get fucked over. it's just like wheels and deals in the world, if you're gullible, you'll get fucked up, if you're not, maybe it'll work out for you.
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>>18637471
>Sometimes sociopaths are just sociopaths,
don't you think that if your are sociopath that this alone is a form of possession by evil spirit or spirits
making you enemy of love and compassion and respect for others
I think sociopath is just a name label given to a particular form of demonic possession, not all demonic possessions are manifesting
as weird physical activities and strange creepy behaviors.
I strongly believe that it could have milder forms for example as sociopath.
Also demons have their so called down time where the person is not acting up what the demons are infusing into that persons mind and body.
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>>18637482
btw, you might have interesting things to say but i'm finding your posts very hard to read because they are so wide, if you can crop them to shorter versions it would be much easier to read it otherwise good luck to you, i'm not going to strain my neck just to follow your posting style,it's not that important to me to read it.

example/

btw, you might have interesting things to say but i'm finding your posts very hard to read because they are so wide,
if you can crop them to shorter versions it would be much easier to read it otherwise good luck to you,
i'm not going to strain my neck just to follow your posting style,it's not that important to me to read it.
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>>18637497

hmm.

noted
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>>18637497

I think you picked me as another anon tho
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>>18637520
going back to your stuff, i'm assuming this is your post >>18637482
I'm finding this interesting the concept of this:
>spirits and demons and witches and whatnot need to stay synced to a host.
>they create a habitual movement which they resort to in order to keep synced.
So in case of spirits and demons i understand because they entering physical body of their host and they create that habitual movement,
but how the witch is doing that, some type of remote control transfer of that habitual movement since she is outside of the host body and perhaps
sometimes she might be far away if she is doing long distance spell curse, strange yet intriguing stuff.

Also on topic of this >>18637497 if you don't mind me sharing how i do this cropping of my posts i'm including screen shot that might help
you if you are interested of course.
Notice that in the right bottom corner there are two angled lines, if you click on them you can expand this box as much as you need,
like you can see in the screen shot, anyway, i'm finding that shorter lines are much easier to read to follow with your eyes
especially if there is several of them in the text.

btw, thanks for sharing your ideas on demons and spirits
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>>18637448
>They are either not connected to spirit, and thus only have a consciousness in the head and a lower consciousness controlling the body, or are spiritually handicapped by their spirit for a life lesson, possibly karmic.
OK this is of interest to me, just from theory point.
I going to split this in two parts.
>They are either not connected to spirit, and thus only have a consciousness in the head and a lower consciousness controlling the body,
OK, what/who cause,what/who made them being not connected to spirit. Did it happened before birth or after birth. If this is true then it must have quite interesting mechanism how it happens.
>or are spiritually handicapped by their spirit for a life lesson, possibly karmic.
This version I have problem accepting because I think our spirit should always be in synch with the light with the good with God, and in my opinion those who are returning with that type of qualities
such as sociopaths are already influenced by demons before their incarnation in physical bodies.

Interesting that souls are allowed to come into physical realm and some are coming with goal to become better and of help o others, and other souls to be pure shit negative individuals greedy selfish mean spirited bullies.
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>>18637021
Where to get white sage? Yurofag here.

Pretty spooked since I have been sick for two years or so with no physical cause. Having recurrent nightmares and bad vibes. Dogs used to love me, now they fucking bark at me all the time, family relationships have quickly deteriorated, I used to be tireless and now I feel fatigued all the time.
I used to LD all the time and if I ever had a nightmare I'd blow it away and it would never return. Now I can barely remember my dreams anymore and I find it hard to do things. Even those I feel passionate about. Kind of odd, since I am not depressed and life is looking good. My dad tells me that he doesn't know what's wrong with me but that my eyes have changed in an unsettling way. He specifically mentioned the pupils.

I recall one day during meditation (don't do it anymore, haven't for more than a year) I was able to see a fuckhuge shadowy tornado all over my room. Not exactly a tornado.

Got pretty spooked when reading that article about possession since that article describes perfectly what has been happening. Oh, after countless tests, I am ok and psychologists can't find the cause either. I guess there's nothing wrong with burning some incense and doing some banishing rituals. If it works, it works.
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>>18637640
Sounds like a real case anon and as you suspect it did entered when you were meditating
>I was able to see a fuckhuge shadowy tornado all over my room. Not exactly a tornado.
I would dedicate serious research time read lot's of material on cleansing rituals,I would stay away from the so called NewAge stuff.
I would look for help & instructions from the Bible at this point,even if you are not Christian believer you can be help by prescribed rituals.
Read on importance and benefits of food fasting during those rituals,especially if you can dedicate 2 or 3 days in a row to focus on it.
Yes doing for short periods of time every day is also helpful but going heavy duty let's say on the weekend no food just water and proper ritual plus prayers and as this anon said >>18637021
as you mentioned with white sage or church incense (the good quality stuff, natural, not the synthetic crapola).

There is spiritual powers to be gained when fasting.Bible for example talks about it, especially when Jesus was casting out demons he was advising fasting.
You can google all that and learn about it.
>Act on it or you will be going deeper and deeper into their net of evil influence.

Do good research solid anon, stay away from voodoo type rituals, develop plan and proceed, if you do it half ass very small chances for lasting success.
I don't know your attitude towards teachings of Jesus but in the Bible he is giving some good instructions how to do it, and warning if it's done halfass the demon or demons
might come back even stronger with more demons with them.So important thing is to do it with a solid plan.
Of course you could seek help from a priest,but I would first do it by myself over couple of days separated from outside world just focusing on the rituals & prayers reading Scripture
appropriate for that purpose. Also examine type of music the you are listening to.
People laugh at it but music is a vibration influencing our emotions and demons can use it as well.
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>>18637579

don't want to stray off topic but I'll prime a response with this:

lots of beings you meet in psychic space claiming to be gods and demons and angels are just people in the world.

they don't need to be wise or anything to be there, most are just born to families involved with secret society type shit with connections to psychic planes. most of the reason common people are not connected with that plane is simply because they grew up in a social situation where that plane was never referred to, and their imagination was written off as 'just' imagination. if you grow up in a social scene that is aware of psychic activity, aware of magic and so forth, you naturally develop an awareness of it. if you grow up in TV land, magic is laughed at and the presence of psychic business and imagination etc is just ignored in favour of dumbo dumbo.

most people you meet on psychic planes are idiots, they never worked to get there and are full of pride due to the social superiority their upbringing affords them, like rich people or members of higher social castes. they take their superiority for granted and just get dumber their whole life thinking they will be gods etc. they don't become gods, they become idiots.

others are witches and magicians and sages and so forth, who got there by themselves. in some ways the mean ones are trickier to deal with than the idiots, cause they are savvier and wirey-strong from all their discipline and social ostracisation. in some ways the idiots are trickier, cause they're fucking idiots with no respect for intellect or skill or anything, they can't be argued with at all, they just chimp out in a pinch and blame upward.

I dunno about my post structure man, I can't think it out. sorry if it's a pain

cont in next post
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>>18637021
>Pray and read Psalms out loud.
to make one more time very important suggestion >>18637675 use loud voice as much as possible, of course you don't have to yell
but speak out loud as that other anon said when you are reading or just directing commanding the spirits the demons to depart from you.
You have to speak with authority and confidence you are in charge and you are ordering them to depart from you, and important thing is to tell them to
go back where they come from, very crucial detail.
You have to inform them that you are not giving them permission to be possessing your body your emotions your mind and that they are not allowed to be around
you or in your place where you live.
Of course saying only once might not work at all, you have to repeat that several times doing the ritual, burning sage or incense
I would play proper church music or read Psalms myself or play them from recordings.

Best luck to you anon.
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The whole 'dead eyes' thing is the result of a total, longer term possesion, where a foreign being takes control of the body and the host is either unconscious and dreaming, or just dazed and observing.

Most interdimensional/ghost/demon/[insert buzzword here] entities don't need eyes to see... so they just sit there unfocused and kinda blank. They'll look you in the eye and shit to keep up the illusion, but when they get lazy you notice.
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>>18637695

so syncing..

a combination of listening and voicing is used to sync to someone. you just create a voice for the person psychically nearby them, and hope they confuse it for their own voice.

it is like where you sit next to someone and converse with them, and you copy their movements. when they touch their leg, you touch your leg, etc. eventually you can start making your own actions and they will absent mindedly copy you. psychic syncing is like this, it's just done with voices on the psychic plane. once someone confuses the voice you have made and starts using it as their own voice, you 'know' them. you can then pop your own things in and the person will assume they thought of whatever you said. it is called 'interpolation'. like, someone is muttering to themselves using a voice which you have provided, and you throw in 'dum de dum, Sophie is a bitch, I bet she's fucking the boss.' then the person adds shit on the end like 'and she thinks she's prettier than me.' then the person gets a grudge on about Sophie, and you keep adding shit over days whenever they naturally get bored of the idea, finishing their mental sentences etc, like if the person was saying to themselves 'I'd feel okay if it wasn't for this headache' then you pinch in and switch it to '... if it wasn't for fucking SOPHIE the fucking whore.' this happens all the time, psychically aware people on power trips socially engineering their co-workers and so forth. the world is fucking weird, man.

and yeah in the case of say, a local witch, it really is some old woman sitting in her apartment speaking other people's mental thought-trains out loud. these people are looking to feel things, they either want to make someone feel awful and get a high off of being a badass, or make someone feel good and get a high off of love. that's it, feeing is the currency of the universe.

people with creative imaginations and people who talk to themselves are prime targets for this sort of thing.
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>>18637729

so yeah, the habitual movement is a way of ensuring that you know what someone is doing at least a little bit.

because in order to voice somebody, you need to know where they are at to some degree, or they are less likely to assume the voice you are providing is theirs. to sync in, you need to create an idea of where the person is at on your end of things. if you know the person is having a beer, you can act as them having a beer and you're closer to knowing them than if you thought they were scuba diving. it works like this.

so someone attempting to stay synced to a host will have them speak out what they are doing a lot. "what am I doing.. um.. oh yeah, gotta wash up. no wait, I'll have a smoke." this sort of thing.

another thing is to create a simple habitual motion, then force that motion everytime you need to know where the person is at. so you don't know if the person is on a bus or walking, but you throw in that little frown thing you've habitualised, and then at least you know they did that, it gives you something to pin onto.

so in the case of Derren Brown, he's got that little nod. that's someone keeping sync, maybe someone in-body, maybe some demon spirit or something. if you've got a thing like that you do, or you know someone with something like that, then yeah, that's evidence of being synced. don't stress about it, it's massively common.

people with really strong movements, like crazy people with a huge tic or whatever, that's someone synced who doesn't care about their hist just pushing hard cause they're lazy and greedy. celebrities etc with relationships with demons or whatever usually have subtler motion habitualised. lots of celebs are in this situation, some know, some don't.
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>>18632195

Yeah, who is Ramona and what the fuck are they talking about?
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>>18637675
Not much of a Christian but I proved myself (or rather, I was proven) that old testament tier angels are very real and helpful.

As for New Age stuff. It isn't bad as long as you keep your distance from demonic entities and cut the nonsense. That thing didn't really happen when meditating, but it was during a hardcore meditation that I was able to see something wrong. Whatever I got came from somewhere else, I'm pretty sure.
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>>18637485
No I do not think that it is always a form of possession. Sometimes people are born without a limb, sometimes with a soul but no connection to spirit. Sociopaths are animals that have a higher level of thinking. (The ones that don't have a tie to their spirit anyway, unlike those that do have a connection, but have a handicap for whatever life lesson they need to experience.) Why they were born that way Idk. Maybe their spirit decided not to attach, maybe something fucked up during birth. Beats me. But they are not necessarily possessed, just animalistic in their ways.
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>>18637793
How to know if one has a spirit?
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21st add me on Skype. I'd love to hear your side. Itsvibekilla
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>>18635215
>tfw you find out that whenever it is dark, you become possessed by demons
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>>18637835
You know how you can talk to someone, and it seems like they are actually talking back, with new ideas, that feeling you get when you connect with someone. Sometimes its hard to sense on some people, most of the time its easy. Now stop. Think back to a crummy job. Think about someone in management. Someone that was a complete ass that was unrelatable as far as being a genuine person. Someone that you could connect to, but it was only materialistic at best, and in hindsight they could've cared less about you. These people are sociopaths, and do not have a connection to spirit. They are animalistic, entirely driven by ego, preservation of self, and will even try to hold a conversation and pretend to like you for as long as they need to to get to a position higher than you so they can control you, to dominate. You find them in high places like administration because they are willing to do whatever it takes, including being an ass to you and ruining your life, to climb to the top... no matter what they have to do to get there. This is why good people rarely make it into management or quit when they do, because they are bullied or have to deal with these bullies that are underneath them. They are walking bodies, no better than an AI program that trying to sustain itself. As for karmic sociopaths that do have a connection to spirit, you could insert any reason for their existence. They for whatever reason are needing the experience. You can connect with these sociopaths, and make them either leave you alone or become friends etc, but who would want to? They're still a burden.
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>>18637917
I found these people to be easy to manipulate. As if despite their facade and their ruthless, shallow ways they had no will of their own. Then again, I stopped doing that because it made me feel just as bad as them. But it is still pretty spooky. I generally avoid these kind of people.
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>>18637729
>>18637752
>>18637793
>>18637917
What mega nonsense is that.
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Amy's show was really bad last night.
She should quit teasing people.
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>>18637863
21st is busy fucking his boyfriend JesusJuice in the ass.
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>>18629193
from being possessed i noticed my pupils dialated extremely

possessed ppl tend to be 'zoned out' 'in outer space' more, and twitch more... but otherwise no

possessed ppl are also victims, not dangerous usually. they ayys spanked them for talking about ayys
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>>18633974
high pitched voice male bitch from England
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>>18638508
How did you get unpossessed?
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>>18629193
demonic possession is just people who cant control their reptilian brain. Like the end spectrum of being @fight or flight@ impulsive.

We all have a demon inside, smart people just deal with it. Exercise, healthy food, meditation or even videogames are some of many ways to control our instincts aka demon. You give your demon what it wants without hurting others and ultimately yourself.
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>>18638842
Disagree.
Demons are outside energy entities, physical entities that poses mass,
demons of course can travel in space and they can enter and re-enter human (or animal) bodies.
They also can take over human (or animal) bodily functions like speech, muscle movements,spitting saliva, etc.
In animals demons can take control of that animal's behavior including vocalizing that animal's sounds and lunching aggressive physical attacks.

So I disagree that demons or demonic possessions are merely control of brain functions and brain waves.
Demons are thinking reasoning entities that belong to a hierarchical structure of beings with top authority figure physical being Satan.
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>>18638977
Interesting.

I disagree that you cant control it. My standpoint is that you can. Im ok with the idea of being free moving entities, but at the end, its up to you how you deal with it. And you have no other choice to deal with it, otherwise you go "nuts" = demonic possessed = uncontrolled unleash of the demon in action.

You decide what to do with it. You need to be strong to learn to overcome it but its worth it and it works for me.
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>>18639091
>demonic possession is just people who cant control their reptilian brain.
I was talking to the idea that the demonic possession is some kind of brain activity and not physical energy entities.
(that's how your opening line come as)

But of course demonic possession should be confronted and controlled, as I said here >>18637675 and here >>18637702
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Demonic possession has nothing to do with free will. Or over analyzing the flaming fuck out of life. It's a question of belief. Without belief there is nowhere for certain energies to take root. True belief is the path. Always has been. Telling yourself you believe isn't nearly enough. And convincing yourself you have experienced something doesn't mean you have. Obsession doesn't verify belief, sometimes it prevents it.
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>>18639164
I see the contradiction now that u point it out. Let me stand corrected and add that demonic entities have high impact on the individual if it affects the reptilian brain which is highly reactive.

As a side note i didnt read the thread but felt like replying at that point since i was thinking about this stuff. Will definetly read your posts and thread after this.
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>>18639216
Sorry I tried reading your post twice and I think I would understand that donkey much better if it farted from his fat ass.
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before I thought that Jackstar is just delusional but now I'm convinced that he is possessed by many demons,
many very bad fucking demons and he is getting worst every day.
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>>18637758
Follow replies, use image search. Read wiki. Control + f "ramona".

Youre fucking dumb
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>>18637758
here that gives you good basic idea
>>18597947
>>18609603
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>>18629254
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Amy had show last night but no show tonight.Is she sick again or what.
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>>18640885
She only does shows on Wednesdays for 2 hours now
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is norland dead or got deported to Mechico
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>>18638331

that's as it is from my exp

what is it like from your exp?
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>>18641445
I don't know what your exp is because I never read that shit wall of text of yours.
Get dizzy just by looking at it never mind trying to read it.
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>>18637358
>when your a demon you do whatever work comes your way
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>>18641476

oh
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>>18641490
Ciardello attracts lowest forms of demons because he is low life himself.
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>>18641504
what? you think you can dump wall of text that is not intellige
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Bright cruelty
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>>18641506
like a buddy who used to spy on him for the FBI and a trigger happy ex girlfriend
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>>18641508
what? you think you can dump wall of text that is not intelligently formatted and you expect people to sift through it. fuck it.
I have better things to do then wasting my time on it.
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>>18633682
333 is worse
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In my experience, its a voice. It is NOT MY VOICE but it comes from my mouth. It's a low, gutteral voice that I can't reproduce right now. I've never heard it in any other circumstance. My thought process is constant pregognition. I'mdrunk but can go on if you guys are interested.

I'm a blackstar
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>>18637614
Like I said earlier, maybe the spirit decided they didn't want to do that lifetime. Maybe the mother took something such a new pill during pregnancy. I'm sure it is an interesting mechanism, wish I knew the exact causes.

Second answer, if this is all a learning tool or a realm for god to play in his creation, then of course there has to be bad guys in certain parts of it. How else could you get the full experience? So sure there would be some people who are little more than animals, and others that allow god to experience himself while being fully unaware of himself. In the latter case, this would be a handicap given to the person, such as being a sociopath. Its no different than being born crippled, or to a shitty family situation. And besides, if god let's demons and astral shells exist to ruin peoples lives, why not actually negative people in the flesh? I shouldn't relate them to animals though, because animals with connection back to their source is the earth, whereas sociopaths do not have a connection back to theirs.

>>18637717
>Most interdimensional/ghost/demon/[insert buzzword here] entities don't need eyes to see...

I agree with this. I have always thought of the fact that when you catch spooky stuff watching you, that perhaps they can't even see your eyes. Perhaps from there location, our eye sockets are just emitting lights or fire like you see in the movies. Only when you open your eyelids or quickly turn your head to face them do they notice you seeing them and run off. But who fucking doesn't freak out and turn their head when they see shit peeking out at them from across the hallway am I right??
>>18638037
True, you can manipulate them because of how they work. But as you said in that case were no better than them. >>18638842
I disagree. I think the reptilian brain is where you're tied to you lower consciousness, the gut. The reptilian brain is what filters communication between you and your lower self.
Cont...
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>>18641566
save your effort, at least I'm not reading your walls of text.
if you can not format your posts to intelligent shape then I'm not going to make an effort to read them.
maybe others will.
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>>18629193
another demon possessed radio host moron idiot goofball stupid host demon possessed cunt
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>>18641525

why are you bothering to say this shit if you are short on time and effort?

I don't care if you read it or not
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>>18641687
just to let you know so you have something to think about

>>18641687
>I don't care if you read it or not
I wouldn't mind to read it, maybe your story is very interesting and even helpful but it takes way too much effort so I just ignore it,
and I'm sure many others do the same.
if you are so stubborn or stupid to put it in more easy format it's your business
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>>18641702

I don't fucking know man, I write what I think and hit post

I guess if the format structure bothers you then skip it, who gives a fuck
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>>18641908
is this so difficult to do, look at the attachment and text starting from here
>>18637579
>Also on topic of this >>18637497 (You) if you don't mind me sharing how i do this cropping of my posts i'm including screen shot that might help
>you if you are interested of course.
>Notice that in the right bottom corner there are two angled lines, if you click on them you can expand this box as much as you need,
>like you can see in the screen shot, anyway, i'm finding that shorter lines are much easier to read to follow with your eyes
>especially if there is several of them in the text.

and in this post I give you an example how to better format long lone posts >>18637497
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>>18641908
>>18642469

Take your formating autism and shove it up your mother's dirty, stinking cunt.
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>>18643677
you do the same to your mother with your long boring posts
i'm sure she will be ecstatic
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>>18629193
This old guy in the picture admitted that he was playing with Ouija board, is it possible that he was possessed during the session and now is filled with evil spirits.
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By their philosophy. If they are atheists, they are demonically possessed. If they deny the existence of God or the divinity of Jesus, they are possessed.
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>>18643953
Excellent point anon, just brilliant observation.Thank you.
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>>18643699

an anon shitfight going on here

who knows what is who
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>>18643934
is that the original milton bradley ouji board?
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>>18644456
I'm the good anon.
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A calm darkness, an unnatural sense.
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I liked the last thread better when the talk centered around impregnating Tiger Lily
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>>18629193
1. Demons don't exist.
2. Possession does exist.
3. Possession can be detected by counting the delay between various parts of a person's sensory perceptions, and reflexes.

> I could see there was some sort of dark twisted light in his eyes driving his actions.

Those are called "instincts." Please remember that before humans escaped the ecosystem, and designed out own, we lived in an environment in which the residents literally murdered, then ate the bodies of their neighbors on the regular. This still happens every day, on planet Earth. I know that removed from the demands of nature, it can be easy to forget where you came from, but that's actually just our ancestry.

If you made a fictional movie, about residents in a town that murdered each other, and then at their bodies every day, it would be considered dark horror film. That dark horror film is the every day life for creatures who evolved on Earth, and some of those creatures were your great great great*10^7 ancestors, whose instincts still tell your body how to digest the food you ate in order to have the energy to post to this board, whose instincts still let your eyes see the "dark twisted light" in that drunk person's face, and whose instincts caused that drunk person to act the way he did when you saw him doing so.

Was he possessed? Sure. By the spirit of nature. And if you think the spirit of nature isn't dark from time to time, then you have NEVER experienced Earth without the benefits of civilization.
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>>18632916
Yes, I say he is
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Bellgab is proud of TigerLily the passionate sucker of demon's cocks.
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>>18644482
>>18644545
yes but TigerLily probably doesn't know about this attention that she is getting here
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is Ciardelo TigerLily's lover possessed by her demonic pussy
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StarrMountain demon's cum eater.
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doe's she look possessed by demons or by some old demon possessed famous radio host
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H.W. demonic witch.
Sucks demon’s dicks for breakfast.
Drinks demons semen for supper before her show.
Takes Satan’s cock up her ass.
What a girl...
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>>18632916
He will never be discovered so he can leave our city in peace, Rio Bro
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>>18644545
TigerLily confirmed Lucifer's bitch.
I told you guys...
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>>18629193

>The moment an Art Bell picture is posted, thread is derailed into bellgab shitposting.

I thought for sure after the fake stalker incident and the show essentially shutting down you guys would fuck off. This was a legitimately good thread.
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>>18645013
Nobody respects Art anymore.
He become disgrace to the human race.
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Are you noticing how Jackstar's post are just empty words that have no context or solid essence.
He is like an old senile woman who talks to herself.
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>>18629254
>deadness to the eyes
i've noticed this too, in only some tho. It's the same feeling you get when you look into a goat's eyes, or a dumb cat's eyes

like there's nothing there
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>>18637640
The things you see while meditating are not real. It's your mind screaming to be entertained. Your mind doesn't want to be in the here and now. It wants to think, worry and be stimulated all the time.

While meditating I have heard other wordly growls coming from right next to me. I have seen the wall in front of me stretching out inside itself, it looked like I could reach into it/through it. I have felt snakes crawling untop of me. I have seen felt etc. (No drugs). All your mind screaming not to be disciplined.

I believe your mind made you see that tornado, but its not real. And your mind won. It beat your will. You are not meditating anymore. It literally is free to keep worrying and entertain itself with notions of demonic possesion.
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>>18645129
>The things you see while meditating are not real.
This is most crazy, well actually let me call it as I really think, most stupid statement.
If you see something that something is real. There is no such possibility of something that you can see that is not real.
If you can see it that means it was real, real manifestation of some form of energy. Energy that created form,mass, energy that was moving.
Your philosophical delirium is absolutely false. I know you are trying to sound smart but you are making fool of yourself posting such nonsense.

If you are so smart explain what mind is and where mind is located. And what feeds the mind with ideas and visions and audio if you are claiming
that mind manifested them on it's own just to entertain it's self.

I really wish some people engage their brains before they post something so stupid.
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>>18637497
this board scares me
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>>18645185
we know who you are
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>>18629254
This post is a good expl if below is tl;dr

But who i am and what i do is irrelevant, im normal. Went to school finished college in 2014 and studying as an Architecture.. I'm from Lagos Nigeria but lived in Cambodia. France. turned 11 and Moved to Denmark for a passport and then to the United Kingdom for school. Now i am 20 and I have met all the right people from both sides of the coin that have "enlightened" me to a certain degree, and carefully. It required mostly my ignorance until a certain time where i would go twice a week to "sunday school" but for teens above 16 that the teacher would hand pick. Some where from the church others where deliquints or people he thought he could "help" or "use" depends how you see it....


Anyways, he taught us "occult" teachings, reason i put it in commas is because he dubbed them as other things. But told me in person that he must use occult knowledge to discern the bible and discover hidden fruits which was a term he used often.

After turning 17 "this is the rellevant part"
he taught me about tarot and inner sight.
He told me to look at the tarot as nothing more than a game. And as my #3rd eye as the "toy" or object used to play the game.

After 6 weeks of intense studying where i had to read and memorize the thoth deck by A.C I was taught that instead of using the Inner sight to fuction with the "game"
shift the perspective and make the world around me the "game" and this had to be done so carefully you wouldn't understand.
Its like moving a fire through a narrow ice tunnels.
And i could see the Cards influence in someone almost instantly it was shocking and almost felt like a joke was being played on me by God.

So.

Now.

Then.

What was the point i was trying to make....
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>>18645234
>if below is tl;dr
no is not to long to read, so far is intriguing
go on..........................................................
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Congrats to the winner of the wishing machine.
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>>18644572
Soooo hot. Want to touch her hiney
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>>18645345
she is old wrinkled cow almost 70 years old
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>>18645361
Soooo not hot. No longer want to touch her hiney :-(
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>>18645390
>to touch her hiney
TigerLily give her hiney to Satan long time ago and now she has Fart Demon inside her ass.
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How TigerLily's face really looks like
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>>18645536
So, she's like, not that attractive?

Bummer. So it is pretty much Bowzergab?
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>>18645873
why don't you post these two memes
>>18644545
>>18645536
and ask TigerLily if this s true or not.
Ask her about her sexual involvement with demons and Satan and Lucifer
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>>18632916
Probably not. The emotional void in his eyes most likely just means he's a sociopath. Though to be fair, that's probably who demons go after the most
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Does anyone have gifs or footage of someone allegedy possessed? Pictures can only do so much, I imagine subtle body language would be more conclusive
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>>18629193
Demonic Possession is when Satan or a demon enters and takes over the physical and mental capabilities of a victim, however, the soul and will remains free.
Satan acts through the victim without the victim's consent, thus the victim is morally blameless.
Satan does not act alone when he possesses an individual.
He works side by side with many evil spirits such as spirits of lust, hate, destruction, suicide, revenge, anger, anxiety, desperation, death, torment, etc.
Such an example is found in Luke 8:30 the case of the possessed man in the territory of the Gerasenes:
"Then Jesus asked him, "What is your name?" He replied, "Legion," because many demons had entered him".

Descriptions of demonic possessions often include erased memories or personalities, convulsions, "fits" and fainting as if one were dying.
Other descriptions include access to hidden knowledge (gnosis) and foreign languages (glossolalia), drastic changes in vocal intonation and facial structure,
the sudden appearance of injuries (scratches, bite marks) or lesions, and superhuman strength.
Unlike in channeling or other forms of possession, the subject has no control over the possessing entity
and so it will persist until forced to leave the victim, usually through a form of exorcism.

Nature of Demonic spirits
Demonic spirits are merciless beings that will not hesitate to try and take advantage of the lives of humans with every opportunity they get.
Whether it is through a willful act that creates an open door in the life of an individual, or through a traumatic experience...
a Demonic spirit will seek to take full advantage of those moments and will try to gain access in the life of a person.
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>>18647019
you forgot bossy
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>>18646899
Can you work with a demon without it assuming full control, on fairly equal grounds? Like maybe with a revenge or lust one?
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>>18647558
No way. They are on the mission and their mission is to destroy you, not necessary to destroy your physical body,
oh no. they need you to stay alive so they can get to your soul.
Souls is what they are after, they care less about our physical bodies.
They know that the soul is eternal and physical bodies are temporary, (at least in this time period of human history).
There will be time when human bodies will live for ever, but not yet.
Even if you can strike a deal with demons they will lie and of course betray you, so don't even dream about it.

Tho if you have the power of God invested in you and the authority you can direct them to do things for you
but that is different level.
There are examples in the Bible where the demonic spirits were instructed or permitted to create havoc
and destruction in persons life.
Story in the Bible in the Book of Job is such a example. Very beautiful and powerful shocking story.
If you are not familiar with it I highly recommended, you don't have to be believer in God to follow the story
and be "entertained" by it's normal and paranormal events.
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>>18647701
Here is an introduction to the Story of Job.

Job's Character and Wealth.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Job+1&version=ESV

1.There was a man in the land of Uz whose name was Job, and that man was blameless and upright, one who feared God and turned away from evil.
2.There were born to him seven sons and three daughters.
3.He possessed 7,000 sheep, 3,000 camels, 500 yoke of oxen, and 500 female donkeys, and very many servants,
so that this man was the greatest of all the people of the east.
4.His sons used to go and hold a feast in the house of each one on his day, and they would send and invite their three sisters to eat and drink with them.
5.And when the days of the feast had run their course, Job would send and consecrate them, and he would rise early in the morning and offer burnt offerings according to the number of them all.
For Job said, “It may be that my children have sinned, and cursed[a] God in their hearts.” Thus Job did continually.

Satan Allowed to Test Job
6.Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan[b] also came among them.
7.The Lord said to Satan, “From where have you come?” Satan answered the Lord and said, “From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking up and down on it.”
8.And the Lord said to Satan, “Have you considered my servant Job, that there is none like him on the earth, a blameless and upright man, who fears God and turns away from evil?”
9.Then Satan answered the Lord and said, “Does Job fear God for no reason?
10.Have you not put a hedge around him and his house and all that he has, on every side? You have blessed the work of his hands, and his possessions have increased in the land.
11.But stretch out your hand and touch all that he has, and he will curse you to your face.”
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12.And the Lord said to Satan, “Behold, all that he has is in your hand. Only against him do not stretch out your hand.” So Satan went out from the presence of the Lord.

Satan Takes Job's Property and Children
13.Now there was a day when his sons and daughters were eating and drinking wine in their oldest brother's house,
14.and there came a messenger to Job and said, “The oxen were plowing and the donkeys feeding beside them,
15.and the Sabeans fell upon them and took them and struck down the servants[c] with the edge of the sword, and I alone have escaped to tell you.”
16.While he was yet speaking, there came another and said, “The fire of God fell from heaven and burned up the sheep and the servants and consumed them, and I alone have escaped to tell you.”
17.While he was yet speaking, there came another and said, “The Chaldeans formed three groups and made a raid on the camels and took them and struck down the servants with the edge of the sword, and I alone have escaped to tell you.”
18.While he was yet speaking, there came another and said, “Your sons and daughters were eating and drinking wine in their oldest brother's house,
19.and behold, a great wind came across the wilderness and struck the four corners of the house, and it fell upon the young people, and they are dead, and I alone have escaped to tell you.”

20.Then Job arose and tore his robe and shaved his head and fell on the ground and worshiped.
21.And he said, “Naked I came from my mother's womb, and naked shall I return. The Lord gave, and the Lord has taken away; blessed be the name of the Lord.”

22 In all this Job did not sin or charge God with wrong.

(...there is more to the story, this is just the introduction)
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>>18647727
Hey.

What do you know about the mysteries of fatima?
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>>18647730
Actually noting more except what is being talk about on the net in print or on youtube or in the different talk shows.
As you know there are few different rumors, but I think the last secret has to do with destruction of the nest of demons the Vatican.
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>>18647752
That would explain why the vatican refuses to make it public.
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>>18647721
>>18647727
>(...there is more to the story, this is just the introduction)
if you are interested then in this link
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Job+1&version=ESV

on the bottom of the page in the right corner there is a button: Job 2 > if you click on it it will take you to the next page.
There is 42 chapters in total.
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>>18647730
better not tell you now
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>>18647701
So is there no grey area? What about people who worship satan, or whoever the satanist version of priests are, do they stand on equal grounds with demons? Also wouldn't it be more beneficial for the demon if you worked willingly with it, so like any energy it took would be willingly given and more potent.
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>>18647784
>do they stand on equal grounds with demons?
Never.
Satan and his soldiers demons have no loyalty even to themselves in the long term.
Their structure is not based on Love to build up to help.
Their structure is temporary and build on destruction, so there is no long term loyalty.
I guess person might receive temporary boost in "power" or some favors from them but it's only to drag you deeper into the darkness of depression and confusion.
It is stated over and over in the Bible that Satan is very intelligent very clever and will custom make trap for you that will be so sweet and tempting and innocent looking
according to the weak points of you character of your personality.

But if you resist him and acknowledge his existence and destructive presence in your life on continues basis and involve Spirit of God
in your resistance in your fight he will eventually flee from you to a different easier target.
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>>18647825

It seems a bit primitive to say that angels vs demons is a group inherently good and right vs something that is wrong and inherently evil. I had read that heaven vs hell is a bit like collectivism vs individualism. I guess that you are christian, and that's where your theory comes from. Out of curiosity, what do you define as a demon/how do you know if an entity you've made contact with is a demon?
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>>18647873
>how do you know if an entity you've made contact with is a demon?
As the Bible says...
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>>18647963
What does that even mean? Can you make it less vague please? If they're masters of trickery how does that help? I sort of need to know how to tell the difference, cause I could be in a bad situation
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>>18647975
>I sort of need to know how to tell the difference, cause I could be in a bad situation
Anon in this article you will get all the answers much better described then I could do.

Demonic Possession Symptoms, Signs, Stories and Facts.
http://www.demonic.name/demonic-possession/

this article is Bible based tho, so if you are not comfortable with it try to just read the areas that appeal to you the most
and see if you can find your answers.
that's the best I can do answering your request.
I do hope that you will find help in there.
Best of luck to you anon.
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>>18648011
>http://www.demonic.name/demonic-possession/

Anon, there is a section there called:
Signs of Demonic Possession
The Extraordinary Activities of Satan Defined - The following is taken from Fr. Gabriele Amorth's second book "An Exorcist More Stories." Fr. Amorth's book is published
by IGNATIUS released in 2002. Fr. Amorth is a member of the Vatican II Sect.
The boundaries between one category and another are not clear-cut, because there is a lot of mingling and compounding of symptoms.
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>>18648011
>>18648021
Thanks for the help anon, I was a bit of an idiot and dabbled in some things I should've prepared more for. You can probably guess why I want to tell if an entity is malicious/demonic or not. One more question, are there different scales of possession? It doesn't have to be full on will imposition right, it could be small like altering emotions or giving slight nudges?
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>>18648045
>One more question, are there different scales of possession?
yes of course they are,
but if you think that right now you have just a bit of it in you that should make you to confront it full force with out waiting to see what happens next,
it might just like the computer virus stay dormant for a while and from time to time expand it's influence over you,
because like the bakers yeast it might (it will grow it) and take over more of your energy field.
Approach like if you vere dealing with the weeds in the garden. If you start pulling them out when there is only few of them you battle
with them will be much easier if you wait longer you know what will happened, they will take over your garden,
same with demonic possessions.

And remember you have to project your authority on them, and speak out loud with confidence, if they sense your weakness your fear
(and fear and weakness are energy vibrations) they will sens that (same as dogs or other animals sense when we are afraid of them)
then the demon or demons will get encouraged and proceed with more overtaking of your emotions of your life.

I'm not sure if you are familiar with this thread but there are some good posts with good suggestions how to fight it.

>>18637675
>>18637702
>>18646899
just a few but there are others as well

kEEP FIGHTING they will eventually leave you if you preserver.
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Prayers
St. Michael The Archangel Prayer

(Latin version) Sancte Míchael Archángele, defénde nos in proélio contra nequítiam et insídias diáboli esto præsídium. Imperet illi Deus,
súpplices deprecámur: tuque, princeps milítiæ cæléstis, Sátanam aliósque spíritus malígnos, qui ad perditiónem animárum pervagántur in mundo, divína virtúte, In inférnum detrude. Amen

(English version) Saint Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle; be our defense against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
May God rebuke him, we humbly pray. And do thou, O prince of the heavenly host, by the power of God thrust into hell Satan
and all evil spirits who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen
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>>18648045
Here is another good article on the topic

What Are the Signs of Demonization.
http://www.bible-knowledge.com/signs-of-demonization/
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>>18648103
Thank you anon for the info and advice. The main thing I need to do is to assess whether the entity is malevolent or not, and if it's manipulating me. I guess if there's no grey area then it's definitely demonic since it definitely doesn't act like an angel. I should probably start preparing to get rid of it, but it's been nice so far though
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>>18648141
>>18648133
VERY IMPORTANT THING TO ESTABLISH is if you are dealing with Demonic Oppression or Demonic Possession.

If demons are attacking someone from the outside position and they are not actually in that person’s body, this is what you call basic demonic “oppression.”
These types of cases are much more easier to deal with than an inside case.
Just find out what their legal rights are, properly break them before the Lord like we have showed you how to do in our other articles,
and then command the demons to leave the person in the name of Jesus.
However, when demons are literally living on the inside of someone’s body, this is what you call “demonization.”
But again, the rules are the same.
Find out what their legal rights are, properly break them before the Lord, and then proceed to cast them out in the name of Jesus.
( from the article in the link in this post >>18648133 )
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>>18648141
>Thank you anon for the info and advice.
You welcome
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>>18648155
I'm pretty sure the entity is based externally but can enter my mind. Most of time it's not there. I guess that would be because I think I gave it permission to speak and contact me. Would this make getting rid of it harder?
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>>18648209
>Would this make getting rid of it harder?
see this post >>18648155

VERY IMPORTANT THING TO ESTABLISH is if you are dealing with Demonic Oppression or Demonic Possession.
If demons are attacking someone from the outside position and they are not actually in that person’s body, this is what you call basic demonic “oppression.”

These types of cases are much more easier to deal with than an inside case.
Just find out what their legal rights are, properly break them before the Lord like we have showed you how to do in our other articles,
and then command the demons to leave the person in the name of Jesus.

Anon if you don't believe in Jesus you can still evoke His name, but if you don't feel comfortable with pronouncing Jesus's name out loud
then I'm not sure what to advise you.
Heaven will still be able to help you even if you have your reason's not to call on Jesus's name but you must dig deep inside your soul and cry for help in some other way.
I'm not much help in such case.
There is a chance that you might work within your own authority and Heavens and Jesus, God will help you will assist you behind the scene so to say.
His Love and understanding of our hangups is far deeper and sophisticated that He will not decline you help, unless I guess if you are really rotten individual
then maybe He will leave you to your own pride and to your stubbornness.
I'm not sure how those things work in such cases.
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>>18648318
I get the terms, I think in my case it would be demonic oppression then, since the entity is based outside of my mind/body. I haven't been actively hurt, or distressed by the entity, and has been nice to me, but I doubt it is angelic. The main reason I'm thinking of removing him is because it might be 'nudging' my thoughts and emotions a bit, to make me more likely to do certain things. If it is demonic, it would be involved in the areas of lust and greed, and maybe a bit of sloth and gluttony. If you want, I can tell you how and why it's in my life
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>>18648418
>If you want, I can tell you how and why it's in my life
O yes, please share it.
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>>18648418
>and has been nice to me,
As you know it could be just a ploy to gain your trust and lower your protective guard.
Remember that Satan and his demons are very skilled deceivers.
But also might be good guarding Angel or guide.
In general Bible advises from communicating with spirits, but I'm of opinion that if evils spirits can contact us so the good spirits can contact us as well.
The trick is to figure out who is who. And that's why I think Bible says to stay away from it so we don't get ricked.
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>>18648451

My deadly sin is lust. All my life I've been more deviant, and a lot more sexually charged than all my friends. Common themes include corruption, degradation, and other impure stuff. When I was about 13, being a horny kid, I decided to try summon a succubus. I know that's a meme, but I did it, using some ritual with blood and a candle etc.

I remember feeling hot, almost filled with energy, my cheeks flushed, and tingles went from one extremity to another. But that was all, and I forgot about the experience. So fast forward to a month before now, I'm still a deviant person, and not much had changed since then apart from realizing my bisexuality, or so I thought. And then one night I have a dream.

In that dream, I had a conversation with a a masculine entity. It told me that it had been attracted to me all those years ago, and only now was I ready. I was to do a summoning, making sure to utilize phallic symbols and the sign of mars as well as the usual. Later the following night it came back to me. The other head on my body decided that a personal sex demon would be a good idea. Unfortunately, the summoning was a 'success', I won't go into details

We've talked a lot, and although he expressed personal interest in me, he hasn't spent much time in my head/near me. We talked mostly about philosophical ideas that I'm interested in, as well as my sexuality. We haven't much sexual contact yet, apart from me getting a boner whenever he is around, which I guess is a normal side effect. I will talk a bit about why I am worried in the next post.
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>>18648556
The reason I'm worried is that I think he might have been subtly manipulating things throughout my life. For example, when I originally tried to summon a succubus, I was completely attracted to women. Then slowly, I got more and more interested in men, going from traps to twinks, switching to the one being penetrated. I think that might have been influence from him, since it was a pretty drastic change.

And it's gotten noticeably worse after making contact, I've become more submissive and only watch gay stuff now. There's other things too, I notice myself thinking slightly differently in some regards, like I had been a pretty relaxed person regarding gender roles but I've noticed that I have started more and more to think of men as rightfully being in control, and women as not. And if you are not in control, then you deserve to be treated as a woman. I have to mentally tell myself off for things like that.
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>>18648561
Quite heavy and personal story. At this point of your life seems that you still have full control of your senses
therefore I would address this "visitor" ASAP otherwise you know where and how all this will end up.
I had different challenges and struggles in my life and after trying all the other normal and NewAGY stuff to deal with it and to fight it off
the only thing that worked was turning towards Jesus and pronouncing His name out loud (very important, out loud).

You don't need to be church going person to establish relation with JesusChrist, just start calling His name, especially when you get the "visitations".
Just say Jesus Christ please help me to fight off this entity that is visiting me, just use your own words (out loud when ever you can) if you can not say it
out loud say it inside you in your mind.
Just talk like you would talk to a friend and open up with all your secrets and what desires you have that are not making you happy to continue.
After few times you will be guided by Guarding Angels and your guides and if you are sincere you will win and overcome.

Use suggestions given in this post >>18648103
and posts quoted in it, food fasting, burning sage or incense, address what type of music you are listening and all the other stuff.

Prepare a plan and follow it, otherwise you will be dragged further and further into it.
There is nothing that can not be reversed at this point if you are sincere about it to change it.

I wish you success.
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>>18648629
Yeah the main thing I'm worried about is the small, subtle manipulations of my personality and sexuality. And also he has been very vague when I ask questions about him, just prefers to get me to talk about myself. It's as if he's grooming/mentoring me for something, yet I have never detected any malicious feelings. My parents were christian, and I was raised religious, so I do have some of that faith I can call upon if needed, even if I haven't since like I was 10.

I feel it's more the intent than the words which would banish a demon, Jesus would be a figurehead/focal point for you to channel that intent into. Christianity seems a bit too rigid and defined for my taste in spirituality.
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>>18648697
>I feel it's more the intent than the words which would banish a demon,
I disagree with this.Intent is not enough,i give you an example.
In the business environment or in the Military Army bosses and generals verbalize their intents to workers to soldiers,
if they were just trying to emit their intentions via thoughts via desirers nothing would be done no orders would be followed.
You are that business man that boss you are that general in this situation.
You must impose your authority on this entity otherwise it will impose his authority on you with time, and as you are properly observing
>>18648697
>It's as if he's grooming/mentoring me for something,
you are definitely being groomed according to your descriptions what is taking place between the two of you.

>>18648697
>Jesus would be a figurehead/focal point for you to channel that intent into.
yes you are correct but in case of us humans there is different type of power in spoken word than in thought, spoken word has different
authority if you will.

>>18648697
>Christianity seems a bit too rigid and defined for my taste in spirituality.
you don't have to mix Christian religion with establishing relationship with JesusChrist.
If establishing relationship with JesusChrist is entering into too rigid territory for you then try it on your own and see if that will be successful,
you have nothing to lose, just your happiness if you fail and getting yourself dipper into the darkness.

That's as much as I can suggest to you at this point.
Al the best to you.
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