Does anyone else think illicit substances can lead to spiritual

Fuck off junkie

I had an out of body experience on psychedelics

drugs are not paranormal, nor do they lead to any paranormal experience. you're just a junkie

>>18384126
Shrooms and LSD helped me find God.

Hallucinogens. Anything else is just for pill popping idiots.

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>>18384697

>others having different needs for growth than my own is impossible

Seems like you need further enlightenment, pissnips.

>>18384126
Hallucinogens.
They can also lead to just brutal nihilistic reality and years of anxiety after the fact tho.

t. psychonaut
t. meditator

Psychedelics, but you have to understand big pharma still pushes drugs just as much as the corner dealers. But I think something like LSD has a very good effect of reconnecting you to all the "you's" you've been, ya dig? It's really good for realizing how you've been taking wrong steps and reflecting on what might be some avenues to think about. Always though YMMV

>>18384708
Also would like to input that there's a common idea that psychedelics can allow "reevaluating" of traumas long thought "dead" but still could be holding back development.

>>18384126
By denotation, illicit substances offer no respite nor spiritual advancement.

On the other hand, jurisprudence sanctions unlawful substances in special cases where peoples find spiritual enlightenment through traditional uses. Consider the popular example of Peyote.

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>>18384697

LSD and DMT are in my opinion best for getting temporary ego death and connecting to the world around you.

>>18384718
exactly, taking LSD for spiritual enlightenment is exactly the same as wanting a pill to drop pounds because you're too lazy to exercise

the real stuff takes work, drugs are simply forcing your brain to make shit up and then pretending it meant something

This. Any psychedelic will work, some better than others for certain people.

Performance substances like cocaine, caffeine, nicotine, ect won't do dick spirituality.


And the rabbit hole involving krokodil, meth, opium ect don't seem to do much of anything productive

All substances have a use, even taking shit like adderall and meditating can lead to growth from learning specifically how the substance affects the mind/body.

But yeah psychedelics are easily the most powerful since a large enough dose essentially forces a spiritual experience.

ITT: drug addicts give excuses for their addictions.

Where's /high/ when we need one?
I'm sick and tired of these drug addicts.

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>>18384962

Shelf the autism, shitgoblin. Other cliques are allowed to sit in the lunchroom besides the ones you like.

All "regions" stem from psychedelics. Egypt, druids, Azteca, the Pantheon, all have a celebrated psychedelic plant.

It wasn't until the invention of the capitol 'G' god that they became demonized. They only want you to experience the divine and spritual after they approve it. They want the monopoly.

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>>18384126
or maybe youre just hallucinating you stupid fucking trip junkie

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>>18384702
Holy fuck, the samefaggotry is on uncharted levels.
The thread fuckings sucks, get over it dude.

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These two are me, you braindead cockshunt. It should be readily apparent to anyone with more than two braincells to rub together. I agree the thread is retarded, but they have the same right to their beliefs and desire to talk about them the same as you or I. If you don't like something, there's an option to hide and/or filter.

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>>18385283
Oh anon. You're so wrong on many levels.

>>18384126

Yes, but expect rapidly decreasing returns. Drugs are not a conduit to knowledge, they only impair certain processes of logic and preconceived beliefs. This can be extremely useful in learning how the human mind creates our understanding of the world around individual biological needs, and fools us into accepting whatever paradigms are fit for that purpose. When people describe things like ego death, they're stripping away layers of assumption that our mind necessarily places over our vision in order to keep us alive.

People who take drugs regularly, thinking they're somehow gaining extra insight, may in fact be slowly descending into another form of delusion and psychosis.

>>18385305
Autismo strikes again. It's time to turn your computer off.