What conspiracies would actually shock you if they ended up being

>>18368892
The only conspiracy at this point (I pretty much believe in all of them) that would shock me is Russia and other "opposition countries" "playing a part" in a game, and they are actually controlled by the Illuminati to bring about a "false-light" BRICS-fronted NWO, deceiving the people.

However I doubt this.

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>>18368892
The Saturn shit

I can deal with it being a crazy cult

I can't deal with time and satan and all that fuckery being a giant angry planet in the sky

>>18369043

Giant angry failed sun

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>>18368892

I'd be really surprised if Cortana is really the Cortana from the Halo games; ie from another reality.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Love_Bees

damn reptars ain't a conspiracy

Just things black people believe.

Russia hacking the US election or otherwise rigging it. That sounds like what I'd have come up with in 6th grade if I was writing a story and ran out of ideas.

Project blue beam

>>18368892
>(((they))) are implanting false thoughts in your head using your computer/phone

But even then I wouldn't go completely insane. I've dealt with extreme and prolonged existential dread before so I think I can "handle" anything now.

pretty much your pic OP , if Grays and reptilians were real.

>Flat earth
>Man made global climate change
>Trump draining the swamp
But
The Earth is not flat, the planet cycles through climate phases, and Trump is part of the club.

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>>18369163
Installing toughts on you, it's quite easy.

Making you do something that doesn't provide you with pleasure it's harder but also doable.

You are far from insane, but are not that complicated to manipulate.

>>18369200
>the planet cycles through climate phases
not at this speed though, man made climate change is real and people like you are going to be the end of humanity

>>18369218
Oh goddamn now I want a coke

>>18369221
>He believes the (((scientists)))
Listen, Every 11500 years mother natures rams the the planet with her ice dick. Do yourself a favor and stop listening to the lies rich people spread to make you fall for their dysgenics and genocide plans. We are not overpopulated and manmade pollution is negligible. Do some research, break the conditioning.

>>18369293
>corporate shill detected

>>18369293
>do some research
>break the conditioning

literally words that a PR operative would use. this guy is shilling for big oil, no doubt

>>18369340
Government disinformation agent and/or misinformed sheep detected
>>18369345
Literally what a government disinformation agent and/or sheep would say

>>18369340
nah, he is just an edgy teenager that thinks he's cool and different for repeating tired tropes.

>>18369372
>Baa baa baa

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>>18369376

>>18368892
>WW3 will happen during my life time.

>>18368892
flat earth

>>18369293
Huh didn't know mother Nature was a trap.

Creationist theory is true, would explain mokele mbembe

>>18369293
>Every 11500 years mother natures rams the the planet with her ice dick
one of the /d/ drawfags need to draw this

Jesus. What if everyone who says Jesus didn't exist and the Bible was written to control over the masses is in for a rude awakening.

>>18369293
>just because there is natural phenomena to explain some of the climate shift that is going on right now that means that filling the air and water with pollutants is perfectly fine and not harmful in any way.

also, the shit your are spewing is exactly what rich corperation owners would want us to think so that they can get richer without spending money on changing the way they operate.

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>>18369200
We do not live on a planet.
How is it possible to see Venus and Jupiter at the same time on a ball earth if Venus is on the inside track of our solar system?

>>18369495
you aren't very inteligent, are you?

>>18369495
>i dun understand that complicated scientifical stuff so it must be wrong.

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>>18369043

Can someone please explain to me the Saturn theory?

And what exactly am I looking at in the gif?

>>18369345
Big Oil pales in comparison to Cultural-Marxist-Tavistock money which is pushing """Global Warming """"

The same forces pushing for the fraud are funding pipelines. So not sure who u think big oil is.

If u care about pollution that is one thing, global warming is a fraud perpetuated by the same CIA/Tavistock/Jew network that was established in the 60s into every high tier """higher education""" (((indoctrination))) centre.

We are talking about hundreds of billions spent here to brainwash masses. Same people behind the (((psychiatry))) meme, same people behind MK Ultra (which the first president of North American psychiatry association was apart of)

>>18369495
Gee bill, your mom lets you have three chromosomes?

>>18369353
Libertarian fag spotted

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>>18369495
When Jupiter is on the other side of the sun from Venus. Like shitty diagram

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>>18369620
>jewz controlling the world
>not the ayys or the reptilians

>>18369645
earth would be a little out of line from venus. Light curves c:

>>18369669
m8 it's a quick diagram done in ms paint. I spent like 30 seconds on it

>>18369620
Shillary just lost the election to an orange, racist
muppet, so even if that network was real it's not nearly as powerful as you make it out to be

>inb4 Trump victory was a false flag planted by (((them)))

>>18369105
Probly true desu
Though I'm not sure if it would have effected the outcome that much

>>18369647
>>18369647
I meant to say ((Jew)). People think the ((-)) means Jew but it really separates the Jews from the ((Jews))
>hint hint wink wink

>>18370285
Que?

>>18369589
>And what exactly am I looking at in the gif?

That's a gif of Jupiter, viewed from below, looking directly along its rotational axis. It's analogous to looking at a gif of a rotating Earth centered on Antarctica. And it looks fucking badass as fuck.

IDK what the Saturn theory is, probably something stupid.

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>>18369632
This is the best burn I've ever read on 4chan, and I've been here long enough to remember the surgeon.

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>>18369620
You're a stupid dipshit.

Global warming is real, that's why nearly every month for the last 15 years has had record heat. That's why ocean acidification and temperature increases are killing off the coral reefs and impairing shell-synthesis in marine animals.

Fucking dumbasses of the highest order think we can pump a greenhouse gas into the atmosphere in the millions of tons a year and expect nothing to change. Climate change denying retards don't understand the first thing about any of the specific sciences they criticize, like meteorology and hydrology, nor do they understand the really basic concepts in fundamental sciences like ecology. They're all scientifically illiterate schizo paranoid fuckheads who think it's all a chinese hoax, a conspiracy theory. The raw idiocy is literally indescribable.

>>18369467
there's no way it's true

>>18370913
the surgeon?

>>18370969
It was a meme on /b/ around 2008 or 2009.

"The surgeon remembers", or something like that. I don't recall how it originated.

>>18369293
>>18369200

Climate change is man-made, it's not a natural phase of the Earth.

xkcd com/1732/

The idea that governments have these huge stations that control the worlds weather and they have the option to create natural disasters(i.e. Hurricanes) at will.

>>18369632
underrated

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Living inside the matrix. Though I guess that would be cool knowing you live inside a program.

Crop circles being made by aliens or haarp

>>18368892
The theory according to which the FBI owns this site since 2008.
Oh wait, that one is actually confirmed already.

>>18369467
Of course... because a bunch of ignorant Bible Belt rednecks are certainly a more reliable source than thousands of actual, published scientists.

>>18369489
You don't even know that the books composing the Bible have been indeed chosen and put together by men (various councils organised by the Vatican). There are many other books which didn't make the cut... just because some men decided so; the book of Enoch and the so called apocryph gospels are an example.
You are not reading a miracle artifact that fell from the sky.

>>18369589
It's about the cloud pattern on Saturn's North Pole: it's perfectly hexagonal, a shape that many find unnatural because perfectly geometric. In reality, there are many perfectly geometric natural things... like crystals, for instance.

>>18369995
...or there is another network that is using Trump to remove the rival network from power...?

>>18370285
Zionist is the word you are looking for, not simply "jew".

>>18371155
HAARP is not a theory. It does exist.

>>18371371
Yes, it would help in accepting the idiots and why they exist.

I would not only be shocked, i would be amazed if Sandy Hook were actually not real. But the problem is it is, children died, there is tons of evidence Adam Lanza not only existed but had severe mental health issues and was planning for years to release his hatred in one major spree shooting (read, EVERY post he made on that forum dedicated to columbine worship.) so, it would have to be the longest, most intricate conspiracy of a massive government employing dozens of actors, effect artists, in collusion with every single news media organization internationally.

But also the moon is DEFINITELY hollow.

>>18371426
That or the government actually did a little forum googling and found an acceptable patsy...

>>18371449

Patsy for what tho? Why did they want a shooting? Don't tell me 2nd amendment stuff or increase gun sales stuff.

>>18371515
You say not to say it but gun control does make sense. You have to stop being militantly against the idea that your government would manipulate you. It actually does make sense dude

>>18371524

What gun control happened tho? There was talk of background checks and that's it.

>>18371546
That's just it anon it's all building to a head

>>18371546
they had to start registering firearms in that state. Why does everyone keep pretending nothing happened with gun control after Sandy Hook? It also made more normies shill for (((gun control))) laws. Im sure what they were hoping for is what happened after their fake school shooting in Austrailia, but it didnt work as planned, but still worked to some degree.

SANDY HOOK DIDNT HAPPEN

nothing about it makes sense at all. every detail is sketchy, the official story doesnt make any sense, there are zero crime scene pictures, every single shot delivered by a skinny autistic kid with very little gun experience was a kill resulting in "softball sized holes" in kids, which is retarded, that (((Rosenberg))) guy seen practicing his lines and making shit up about kids coming to him, the parents laughing between takes, faking tears, they claim the police had to break in, but Adam just walked in armed? After the shooting, parents parading around the school over and over for some reason, the kids later claimed they heard gunshots...over the PA, never in person, never saw Adam except for the teachers claiming he say them and just left them alone for no reason. Why would Adam even WANT to shoot kids? Its suppose to be seen as the ultimate reason why GUNS R EBIL.

>>18371377
This is news to me. Why would they even want it? Just monitoring purposes?

>>18371682
Actually this was pretty widely publicized in 08. Moot was strongarmed into giving it up to the gmen

>>18368892
nothing would ACTUALLY SHOCK me, I dont think that can be achieved anymore. I mean even if some movie/anime/lovecraft-tier shit happened, I wouldn't be surprised or geniunely shocked or whatever.

>>18369091

Giant angry failed sun of God.

It all makes sense.

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>>18371578
Don't forget all the name tags, port-a-potties, and crisis actors all set up for that day.
And that the fundraising page was set up 3 days before.
http://www.activistpost.com/2015/12/33-unanswered-questions-on-sandy-hooks-3rd-anniversary.html

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>>18371426
>>18371973
http://moralmatters.org/2013/03/21/sandy-hook-coroner-and-law-enforcement-actors-part-and-parcel-of-understanding-the-hoax/

>>18371973
this is the dumbest thing ive ever seen. your whole story hinges on people having ID cards on in ACTIVE CRIME SCENE.

>>18368892
all of them, because it's very rare for actual conspiracies that actually matter to keep shit secret for long
someone always defects, or they break under pressure, or they gets lazy and someone outside gets ahold of key information

>>18369340
>>18369353
>tfw corporate and government shills collide
I just want mommy and daddy to stop fighting

>>18371412
I didn't say HAARP didn't exist. Just very hard to believe they can manipulate the weather(which was never proven)

>>18371699

Oh moop you wuz an hero :(

The Mormon salamander letter. That shit is so crazy I can't believe anyone actually buys into it

>>18370285
It just means jew.
I know the guy who invented the meme.

atlantean diaspora

>>18369200
but Earth is flat otherwise NASA and other space agencies wouldn't need to fake a curvature using a fish eye lens in every clip they produce.
below is what Earth looks like with a standard piggy cam from over 40 km
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQITXbcz2hg

>>18372864
it's not even flat there

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there is alot of occult in the sciences, entertainment and politics.
Youd be suprised in how much occult there is in academics.

heres something to think about.
the consumption of fetuses have been known to improve health and help skin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qh5F4qpAgY

>>18372864
They use those lens to see more of the Earth at once. Not because "muh conspiracy with zero evidence".

>>18372888
>flat earth
dropped

All of them are retarded.

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>>18372897
not really

>>18372902
That's supposed to prove something?

That chicken is promoted and sold cheaply ($1 chicken sandwich "special") and milk cause girls to develop faster and men have less body hair are smaller and more effeminate and more likely to be trannies

>>18372864
what the fuck

>>18372897
Right, I've never seen anything so devoid of evidence or logic be so popular

>>18372902
>what are clouds and conditions

>>18372897
If you like your ball, keep your ball.
>>18372884
The horizon is a straight line and at eyes' level.
It is flat.

>>18372953
only in one cherrypicked video

>>18372906
>>18372940
>>18372953
>>18372959
the earth is a planeisphere. a flat plane with a dome.
https://www.google.com/patents/US3858334

>>18372864
That isn't high enough to see the curve. You're underestimating how big the Earth is.

>>18368892
the only one I can think of is
"The united states government isn't made up of criminals and actually cares about it's citizens."

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>>18372965
>That isn't high enough to see the curve. You're underestimating how big the Earth is.
yet proof is to assume we see curvature when boats sink at the horizon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdwIMtz8owI

>>18372964
That's just dumb and untrue.

>>18372953
I think we would have noticed by now if it was flat. It would be a tad obvious.

>>18372959
most videos use a fish eye lens to create a fake curvature, it's actually very rare to get a sight of our Earth from above through a standard camera.

>>18372964
Yes

>>18372965
wrong, do the maths.

>>18372975
You're got to have a clever little retort for everything don't you?

>>18372980
The maths say it's round. Oops.

>>18372980
>>most videos use a fish eye lens to create a fake curvature
no, see >>18372891

>>18372864
The comments on that video save us the trouble of pointing out all of its flaws as flat earth evidence.

>>18372975
It's hard for our eyes to see such a vast curve, but if something goes over it it's still going to vanish.

>>18372953
There are dozens of easy ways to disprove a flat earth. How do you avoid such simple proofs enough to convince yourself it's true?
It's ridiculously simple to debunk in a variety of ways.

>>18372979
we (the people) would have noticed if we weren't being deceived on purpose.
If you thought the dark ages were over, think again.

>>18372978
think about how many photographs of real satellites (not CGIs) you have seen, in 70 years of space program.
hint: type satellites in google images, all results without exception are CGIs.
think about how many real photographs of Earth from space with a gorgeous deep space filled with multicolored stars you have seen, in 70 years of space program.
hint: not a single one
think about why NASA keeps telling they will soon be able to cross the van Allen belts (codename for dome) even though they have allegedly done exactly that 50 years ago for the fake moon missions.
hint: watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmoiwjXepHM

there is no space at all and no space programs.

>>18372989
Lmao this!

>>18372996
you say no?
show me another clip without a fish eye lens.

>>18373005
the problem for you is it is flawless evidence of the flat Earth

>>18373013
but you can't cite a single one.

>>18372982
i am a man of many fates. death will be in all of them.

>>18372975
lol at all that anti-science pro-creationism crap at the end
tells you what kind of idiot makes these videos

>>18373043
>lol at all that
mind programming creates that kind of reaction. Denial and lulz is the first step, then comes anger and later on, acceptation.

>>18373014
>we (the people) would have noticed if we weren't being deceived on purpose.
>If you thought the dark ages were over, think again.
lol

such lame nihilism

>>18373020
why would someone go to the trouble of filming in space and not show as much as possible?

>>18373020
you can't cite any plausible evidence or proof of a flat earth but you're so sure anyway?

>>18373014
>we (the people) would have noticed if we weren't being deceived on purpose.
Why are you acting like this is recent? Round earth has been known for thousands of years.

>>18373058
Real nihilism is to believe that you are nothing but an ape which has evolved by pure chance, without any real purpose but to exist, living on a rock the shape of a testicle, lost in a dark terrible and hostile space, a rock that could be destroy any day by some black hole or meteor. Nihilism is believing that everything comes from nothing, that nothing has a real purpose.
That's your current belief system that was put forcefully in your head and billions others by the public education system.

>>18373013
yet the theory is growing in popularity
why is that?

>>18373020
>but you can't cite a single one.
- Sun rise/Sun set wouldn't happen on a flat world
- Seasons make no sense without axial wobble
- Earthquakes/Volcanoes (only happen because of how the round earth is composed)
- Gravity would collapse a disk that size
- Horizon in general
- Stars in the sky changing depending on time of day and position on the globe
- Moon being upside down when viewed from the other side of the world
- Maths dating all the way back to ancient Greece supporting a globe
- Sailors circumnavigating the globe, never hit an "edge"
- Every other object in the sky is round, but this one isn't?

and so on

>>18373109
As opposed to "we're so super magic special everything revolves around me personally"

>>18373113
No it's not. It's nothing.

>>18373080
I just show you a flawless evidence of flat Earth, a video. Don't you trust your own eyes?
No need for further proof if you can't disprove this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQITXbcz2hg

>>18373087
Our Earth is a disc and a disc is round.
Earth has been round since day #1, it's only recently it became a spinning ball.
see
>>18372975

>>18373130
>Earth has been round since day #1, it's only recently it became a spinning ball.
It's been a globe all along, except in a few misinforned primitive myths.
So why are some old myths more plausible to you?

>>18373133
>primitive myths
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBL98p0wZ7g

>>18372864
>>18373130
I'll freely admit I can't explain that video, it's not what I would expect to see. It may be that I'm jut not an expert and there's an obvious explanation I'm not aware of, however.

>>18373130
>one video is all you have
Now I see why you're clinging so hard to a flimsy single video, you have literally no other evidence, let alone real tangible proof. That should tell you how plausible your "theory" (fairy tale) is.

There is absolutely no reason a worldwide conspiracy would cover up everything just to hide the shape of the earth. It is pointless.

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>>18373115
Sun doesn't set
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRFU4V_RaCw
Moon doesn't set
http://www.shutterstock.com/video/clip-9534848-stock-footage-time-lapse-of-the-moon-setting-over-water-with-moving-stars-and-milky-way-note-there-are-many.html
>- Seasons make no sense without axial wobble
wrong, study the flat earth model. They make more sense on a flat Earth.
>- Gravity would collapse a disk that size
Gravity doesn't exist
w=m
>- Horizon in general
is always flat and at eyes' level, consistent with a flat Earth
> Stars in the sky changing depending on time of day and position on the globe
Firmament is moving
> Moon being upside down when viewed from the other side of the world
see pic related
>- Maths dating all the way back to ancient Greece supporting a globe
erasthotenes assumed that Earth was a ball to deduce its curvature but if Earth is flat, all his work means shit (and it does)
>Sailors circumnavigating the globe, never hit an "edge"
Earth is a disc, the North pole is the center. Again learn the basics.
> Every other object in the sky is round, but this one isn't?
you mean Earth is star?

>>18373151
The only reason anything falls down is gravity. Explain that.

>>18373149
flat earth people are just trolls making an elaborate joke, none of them actually believe any of this

>>18373140
more space bubbles here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMFvgIQkzM0

>>18373151
>Earth is a disc, the North pole is the center. Again learn the basics.
That does not explain circumnavigation at all. Let alone air flight.

>>18373157
weight, the product of density, is the reason why things go above or below.

>All the planets, moon, sun, etc are round
>except our one for some reason

>>18373172
Why would weighing more pull them down if there is no gravity?

>>18373157
why does gravity make a proof that the earth is round? in fact gravity isn't fully agreed upon on round earth theory. In fact its full of contradictions in round earth theory.

Gravity can be explained as things that weigh more or have more mass fall down when its surrounded by a medium of less mass.


on round earth theory, how do you explain gravity to hold all the weight of the oceans to the center while allowing birds or leaves to be lifted up with ease? How do you explain that the earths gravity is weak enough to allow the moon to affect the tides at sea level, where earths gravity is the strongest, and whats keeping the ocean from not moving up towards the moon?

>>18373179
Oceans are liquid, birds are not

>>18373165
>circumnavigation
it does, circumnavigating a disc is just as fine as circumnavigating a sphere.

>>18373185
you would have to go in a circle on a disc

>>18373151
If there's no gravity, what's making the sun orbit the earth?

>>18373178
because the surrounding medium is less dense. what holds them down is magnetism.

>>18373178
Density, the amount of matter in a given volume.
What is denser goes below, the reason has to be found with the divinity who made these laws. This world doesn't really exist, matter is an illusion.

>>18373192
the earth's magnetic field supports a round earth you know

>>18373188
you would have to go in a circle on a sphere as well

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>>18373195
>This world doesn't really exist, matter is an illusion.
tips

>>18373198
>the earth's magnetic field supports a round earth you know

not really.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwITo_XsS08

>>18373200
Around a sphere, not the same. If you pick a direction on a sphere and go, you will eventually wind up back where you started. Can't happen on a flat earth. You would "fall off".

>>18373151
>see pic related
They would see the moon at a different side, not upside down. Upside only happens if you're around a globe.

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>>18373205
on a disc as well
Again, you don't know the basics of the flat Earth mode.

>>18373212
Look at your ceiling and place a picture of the moon. Look at it from one end of the room and walk to the other side and look at it again. The moon is seen upside down and right side up. Is your room a globe?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQYCEYiRMEo

>>18373191
electro magnetism

>>18373203
>>18373151
>>18373130
>>18373014
>>18372975
Wow, you guys actually have answers for all that guy's questions. I didn't realize you would have so many videos on so many subjects, I always assumed this flat earth thing is just a joke people say, yet there seems to have been some actual research done into it like an actual theory.

Kinda surprised

>>18373214
if you went in a straight line you would hit the edge

>>18373219
Let me guess totally undetectable with no evidence, just believe you because you need a cheap answer?

>>18368912
Why would this shock you? We already know the NWO is real and having a planned opposition is part of it

>>18373155
>cherrypicked

>>18373234
It's not Russia, though.

>>18373218
Whatever, that still doesn't prove anything

>>18373224
If you want to know more about the deception, I would recommend doing some catch-up with this 6 hours documentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhRiLP32qfs

>>18373224
Their "answers" are a mix of excuses and bullshit. Disregard all of them

>>18373248
>instantly shilling a 10 hour video as though anyone would watch that

Flat earth myth doesn't meet any of the requirements for a scientific theory

>>18373227
the only thing you can circumnavigate on the ball that you can't on the flat Earth is the Antarctica continent since it doesn't exist.
I guess this is what you were trying to say.

Bush did 9/11

>>18373259
oh really?
i suggest you look into this patent and find out why it works using the azimuth equidistant map projection.
https://www.google.com/patents/US3858334

>>18373248
I don't think I have the time right now to watch it but thanks for the recommendation

>>18373233
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ws6AAhTw7RA

the quantum wording is just here to push crap science into everybody throat. Watch at 1:05, here you have basically the movement of the Sun and Moon over the flat earth.

>>18373282
not a theory

>>18373268
And we can circumnavigate Antarctica so flat earth disproved

What evidence do you believe could come out that could plausibly support the flat earth idea to the general populace?
What would make everyone at large doubt the globe?

>>18373159
It's a ruse?

>>18373224
most of their answers are just "lolnope", zero substance whatsoever

they're chasing a bronze age myth in 2016, it's sad

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>>18373310
NASA tells we can but NASA tells we went on the Moon, NASA also tells that satellites are real, so is gravity etc...
Do you trust a liar?
Look at the Marker they chose for the fake South pole, a Yin-Yang symbol also symbol for the flat Earth. A black luminary in brightness, a bright luminary in darkness rotating over the flat disc.

>>18373151
>>18373115
you forgot "people don't fall off the edge"

>>18368892
Nice try, but THEY will never tell us the truth, and we will always remain ignorant of whatever is really going on. The whole point is to keep the experiment going as long as possible. If you learn the truth, you will be removed from the experiment.

>>18369092
this would not surprise me in the least. this is the MOST plausible "conspiracy" theory I have read in the entire thread. (I have only read the first 4 posts thus far)

>>18369105
this is extremely plausible. You wouldn't even have to hack the voting machines. just the media. If CNN reports that a candidate is winning, that's all it takes.

>>18369293
>just a made-up year
where did you get that 11500 number? what's your sauce?

>>18369495
this is bait.

>>18369620
>toxic fumes
or
>fresh air
so hard to decide guys

>>18373321
none
cos it's fiction

>>18369200
>Man made global climate change
This is not a conspiracy theory, lmao.

>>18373344
>Look at the Marker they chose for the fake South pole, a Yin-Yang symbol also symbol for the flat Earth. A black luminary in brightness, a bright luminary in darkness rotating over the flat disc.
>my evidence is I tie my mind in knots til it says flat

>>18373388
in the British channel you get 4 tides in a 24 hours period but our Moon only makes one pass (one rotation every 24:50)
4 tides and one pass? How does it work with tides being the result of Moon's gravitational pull theory?
It doesn't, plain and simple.

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>>18371426
mercury is also hollow.

>>18373321
people not too impaired by social media and the entertainment industry, still have common sense.
Hence if you show them that video, they should eventually figure out the deception.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRFU4V_RaCw

The flat earth stuff sure is uneducated. Egyptians millennia ago proved earth is round by sticking two poles in the ground at two cites and measuring the shadows. They replicated the same testin modern times and the ancient measurements were something like 1-5% off of a perfect calculation.

>>18372902
lol this fucking guy right here.
hurr what are clouds?
i mean, i support your believes dood! way to go!!

>>18373438
>uneducated
two negative form a positive, if your education is crap then uneducated becomes a good.

>>18373456
The fuck?

>>18373456
Or you're just an idiot.

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>>18373449
>>18373438
>Egyptians millennia ago
talking of good education, it was actually Eratosthenes, a Greek, and all he did was calculate the curvature in case Earth was a sphere and the Sun was a giant light bulb millions miles away.
Its works is relevant only if the Sun is million miles away and Earth is a ball, it doesn't prove anything.

>>18373151
>w=m
Motherfucker do you even newtonian physics?

>>18373426
>that video
what the hell

>>18373490
"if"

>>18373426
I get that there's stuff you use to support it now, but it's very niche and needs all sorts of explanations with it.

It's why almost no one in the world has ever heard of this theory. There is no big smoking gun evidence for it.

>>18373495
gravity doesn't exist.

>>18373510
That's a nice little idea you just imagined.

>>18373506
a lot of work has been made on the subject and is made publicly available on the flat earth research society (not to confuse with the government funded cointel pro flat earth society)
http://ifers.123.st/

>>18373490
flat earth literally has to be magic to exist

>>18373513
it just fit perfectly with what my senses are telling me
I don't see gravity, I can't taste it, I can't feel it at all.
It doesn't exist.

>>18373506
There's no picture of the flat earth, or of "the edge" or any of the expected aspects of a flat earth, no nothing. Wonder why that is? Flat earth idiots will claim it's all covered up or something, as though you could cover up the literal shape and nature of the entire planet in this day and age

>>18373518
Yes, it requires a designer and doesn't work well with the planet of the apes born from chaos theory.

>>18373521
>I don't see gravity, I can't taste it, I can't feel it at all.
>It doesn't exist.
dumb as fuck

>>18373524
So it's worthless. It can't exist without literal magic, it's impossible on its own.

>>18373523
I believe there are actually

>>18373523
>There's no picture of the flat earth, or of "the edge" or any of the expected aspects of a flat earth, no nothing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQITXbcz2hg

>>18373521
What a self centred delusional perspective

>>18373527
>it requires a designed so it's worthless
I don't understand your reasoning, care to expand a bit?

>>18373529
>one dubious video
Where's all the extensive video and photo proof there should easily be if it was actually flat?

>>18372975
That is wrong. Hindus believe the entire universe is a dream of the god Brahmin.

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>>18373536

>>18373533
If you want a theory to be taken remotely seriously you need to not have the entire thing hinge on literal magic they have to also swallow in order to believe it's true.
>"I know it doesn't make any sense, but it's magic, just believe it"
is not a good way to convince people.

>>18373525
Why do you believe Gravity if you have never experienced it with your own senses?
You do believe it because most people do, your teachers, your family, your favorite TV talking heads...

Talking of a dumbass.

>>18373529
>this is what God sees when he looks upon us.
Beautiful.

>>18373545
>Why do you believe Gravity if you have never experienced it with your own senses?
I experience it at all times of my entire life. I can let my arm drop right this second and have it pulled downward towards the earth.

>>18373548
yeah bro god is sitting up in a big cloud
with a harp

>>18369511
Cant even spell intelligent right
>kys

>>18373549
>Things have weight, except when in space then they are weightless and float and spin.

Maybe your arm drops cause you are lazy.

>>18373549
>I experience it at all times of my entire life
wrong, you are experiencing weight, or density if you will, not gravity.
w=m means weight and mass are identical, there is no gravity variable, it doesn't mean you are weightless.

>>18373109
this is exactly how i feel, not based on science or religion, but by my own experience with the world. The other day I spoke to someone who clearly had never considered any of this, who seemed perfectly sheltered for their entire life.
WAKE THE FUCK UP.
nothing is certain, and nobody is up in the sky looking out for you.

>>18373523
other video evidences supporting the presence of a dome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXNmj-JmrR8

>>18373492

here you have the so called Moon rise and Moon set, except when seen over the ocean with a clear sky, the Moon doesn't cross the horizon. This proves the flat Earth.

http://www.shutterstock.com/video/clip-9534848-stock-footage-time-lapse-of-the-moon-setting-over-water-with-moving-stars-and-milky-way-note-there-are-many.html

http://www.shutterstock.com/fr/video/clip-4526936-stock-footage-moon-rise-from-the-ocean-timelapse-with-stars.html?src=recommended/2516963:5/3p

>>18373515
>flat earth research society
Literally all they would need to do is work with Spacex or some company to get one of their researchers trained and allowed up on a flight to the ISS to report back. Not even ISS, just document up to the edges of the atmosphere and back.

>>18373619
>Spacex
is a scam.
> on a flight to the ISS
there is no ISS above the dome, the only ISS is seating inside a giant pool of water (hence all the water bubbles you can see in every spacewalk)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMFvgIQkzM0
there is space at all.

>>18373625
>no space at all

in this other footage, you can see a scuba tank in space.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LumFvgrZQXk

>>18372925
Miley Cyrus Hotness.

>>18373572
>wrong, you are experiencing weight, or density if you will, not gravity.
>w=m means weight and mass are identical, there is no gravity variable, it doesn't mean you are weightless.
So why does everything move down toward the Earth? You claim there is no gravity, so what is pulling you down when you jump?
And don't say "mass," that is a property of matter saying that it has substance, not how that substance will act. That's why we differentiate weight and mass, weight is mass with acceleration pulling it in a certain direction (why you "weigh" more crushing on your car seat/door as you take a fast turn).

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>>18373608
isn't it just that the moon is much smaller and less vibrant than The Sun so you don't see it on the horizon? it's not gonna be like this

>>18373637
this is a fundamental natural law, what is denser goes below what is lighter.
Why do you have a cock and not your mother? this is how you and your mother were designed.

>>18373416
wtf am i looking at? how does this prove its hollow?

>>18373648
No you clearly see its size shrinking to the point it totally vanishes while still well above the horizon.
It can't happen on a globe.

>>18373599
why would the presence of a "dome" cause a rocket to stop its violent spin?
on second thought, you're right. the earth has a dome. it's called atmosphere.

>>18373659
>wtf am i looking at?
a CGI, computer generated image

>>18373663
>why would the presence of a "dome" cause a rocket to stop its violent spin?
uh, are you serious?
>on second thought, you're right. the earth has a dome. it's called atmosphere.
oh shit you actually were. hurr

>>18373625
i don't see bubbles. maybe ice particles or something? just some dust which flaked off where the astronaut put his hand?
BTW, that laugh-track is really obnoxious.
I can't believe I'm trying to argue with a flat earther.

>>18373608
Could this be an optical illusion or a quirk of the location? I'm not ready to leap to "flat earth" on a whim.

>>18373625
Bubbles move in a single direction (toward the surface) at a pretty constant speed. And those particles were not doing that- they even slowed it down so you can see their erratic movements. Look at the one at 1:00-1:04. Not convinced.
And of course there are large training facilities in pools, that's the easiest way to do long amounts of training for zeroG.

>>18373683
>maybe ice particles or something? just some dust
you see something then?
here you have a slow motion that proves without a doubt they are air bubbles by their trajectory alone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMFvgIQkzM0

>I can't believe I'm trying to argue with a flat earther.
You could learn one or two things and even become clever over time.

>>18373692
>Bubbles move in a single direction (toward the surface)
wrong this is something you would expect in space without any friction force, not under water.

>>18373685
>optical illusion
how?
I just show you the Moon and the Sun in three different videos in two different locations behaving exactly according to the Flat Earth model.
Your answer is to immediately discard the evidences and claim they are optical illusion. Not very scientific, isn't it?
But you are a paid shill and not very bright.

>>18373653
But why below? Towards what? What pulls it down below the lighter material?
A man and a woman have different genes, that is how they have different physical forms. That is a poor analogy to explain why something goes "below" something else simply because it has more mass- there is no reason to suggest down, what is so special about down if it is not "toward the earth due to some specific force?"
At least someone else told me it was because the earth-disk was moving up at 9.8m/s^2, even though that's bullshit it's still better than "down because I say so."

>>18371578
This post payed for by the Nra

>>18373648
Your pic is so fake, I just hope you realize it.

>>18373705
>>Bubbles move in a single direction (toward the surface)
>wrong this is something you would expect in space without any friction force, not under water.

>not underwater

motherfucker you ever been underwater before? Bubbles move up.
They move up because there is a gradient of lessening pressure (due to less water above them) towards the top. Cohesion keeps the bubble in it's shape as it travels, a little low-pressure area that moves through the higher-pressure water, pushing water particles out of the way as it travels up.

>>18373705
>>18373716
"clever"

>>18373727
magic

>>18373241
Putin's Probly one of the most globalist leaders on this planet right now, dude has a black hole of limitless corruption around him

>>18373727
>A man and a woman have different genes, that is why they have different physical forms

lead is denser than water, that is why it sinks when placed in a bucket of water.

>>18373757
>motherfucker you ever been underwater before? Bubbles move up.
you're shilling just too hard, anus monkey.

yes bubbles move up but not in a perfect linear trajectory because of water resistance. In space (if space was a thing) any solid body would follow a perfectly linear trajectory. In all the video shown, the particles are bubbles without a doubt.

>>18370968
I would be terryfied if it was true

>>18371391
I just bielieve with in the possibility of relict cryptically

>>18373791
>>18373716
Stop resorting to "ur shill!!!!". It's pathetic.

>>18373812
shills hate being named

>>18373818
There are no shills on the lowest population board on 4chan, a board about ghosts and goblins and other crap. Let alone "shills" arguing for something 99.99% of the world believes is true without question.
You just don't have any real arguing ability so you resort to pretending people who disagree with you are just being paid to pretend to do so.

>>18373773
Still doesn't explain why it goes toward the earth. What is under the earth if it's flat? Why isn't the dense earth sinking into something? Or are we just floating here as >>18373762 wold suggest?
>>18373791
>yes bubbles move up but not in a perfect linear trajectory because of water resistance.
Ok, not perfectly linear, but pretty darn close, closer than those particles. Like I said, the one at 1:00 in that video is moving sideways/down

>>18373735
holy fuck are you dumb, of course I and anybody who looks at that knows that. do you think it's my first day on the planet? the fuck

If everything moves "down" because of weight, why doesn't the earth fall?

>>18371402
That's not Saturn, it's Jupiter. Saturn looks nothing like that.

>>18373763

But he's not part of the NWO, which is a primarily western phenomenon. Putin opposes it specifically because his country isn't part of it.

>>18373833
We have the best shills on all the chans, but they only work when they had to, they don't argue about dumb shit like you do.

We have multiple ufo reports, go worry about something important for a change.

>>18369589
that's dank ass pepe

>>18373224
Literally all of his "answers" are wrong.

Flat earthers are the stupidest people to walk the earth. The fact that they can breathe on their own is amazing.

Please leaveSaturn alone

>>18368892

>What conspiracies would actually shock you if they ended up being true?
>shock

Zeus? I guess he's a deity though, not a conspiracy.

>>18373833
it's not a matter of board but of topic. I can't really blame then, still better than being a bum.

>>18373836
>Still doesn't explain why it goes toward the earth
I just did, lead is denser hence it start moving and takes its place below less denser layers of matter (water in my example) and above the top most layer of denser matter, the bottom of the bucket in my example.
This is a fundamental law, it means a law that was designed as is by God.

>What is under the earth if it's flat?
a more denser world.

>Why isn't the dense earth sinking into something?
because what's below it is denser

>Or are we just floating here as >>18373762 wold suggest?
No, the exact details of the surrounding I don't know but the bible and other scriptures from many religions give some details.

In the bible we are hinted at the presence of pillars that make the Earth immovable

The Bible also talks about the pillars of the earth. In Job 9:6 it says, "Who shakes the earth out of its place, and its pillars (ydwmu) tremble." The LXX says, "Who shakes the earth under heaven from its foundations and its pillars (stuloi) totter." In Psalm 75:3 it says, "The earth and all its inhabitants are melting away; I set firm its pillars (ydwmu)." The LXX says, "I have strengthened its pillars (stuloi)." In I Samuel 2:8 it says, "For the pillars of the earth are the Lord’s and he had set the world upon them." The Hebrew word for pillar is yqxm. The root is qx meaning "to melt" (BDB 1980, 848). Therefore, yqxm means, "a molten like pillar." The only other place it occurs is in I Samuel 14:5 referring to a mountain. Probably the pillars of the earth are the same thing as the foundations of the earth which were mountains.

>>18373282
How about you explain it

>>18373940
>In the bible

>>18368892
same as most /x/ers already believe somewhat in most, but honestly it really would fuck me up if it came out the opposition was actually the good guys. like:
>>trump really is good guy, russia is really trying to stop illuminati, american democracy is a debtor's country by design and backed by reptilians.

>>18373946
okay satan if you don't like the bible
look at that pic here,
>>18372975
all religions since forever know that Earth is flat.
Study the Vedic cosmology for example.

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>>18373963
But in all seriousness why is it that so many people still believe the space opera bullshit and the fake globe when NASA was called out so many times on their bullshit?
Is it by fear of knowing a horrible Truth? Because in that case they should keep in mind there are always two faces to every coin, if one is horrible, the other is ... a wonder.

>>18373963
>some other myths also didn't know anything so they made shit up

>reptilians under human skin
too funny to be true.
>flat earth
Gravity wouldn't allow it. If you deny gravity and say that earth has a constant acceleration towards "the sky" that causes us to stick to the ground, we would already be moving faster than light at this moment which is scientifically impossible.
>we live in a computer program
pretty possible, but I would be shocked.
>planets give you magical powers (let you summon various spirits depending on their position etc.)
I do believe in some magical nonsense but this makes no sense to me. Why only those in OUR solar system? What happens if we move to another planet since the relative position of all planets will be different?
>astrology
I believe in free will. Even if free will doesn't exist it's not rational to think that the relative position of certain stars determine your personality and your future to some extent.

>>18372975
That Hindu picture is from Discworld lmao.

>>18373940
>I just did, lead is denser hence it start moving and takes its place below less denser layers of matter
You're still not understanding my question. I understand that more dense = below less dense. But why, what pulls it down? My answer would be gravity pulls toward the center of a mass, ergo we see things pulled down toward earth.
But you say there's something more dense under earth, and more under that, but what would they be? You don't really have anything to prove your theory.
We have physical evidence for the heliocentric solar system and globular earth. Even if you think it's all a scam, it is still more than you can offer for your theory. Thus I will continue to accept the theory for which I have decent evidence.

>The Bible also talks about the pillars of the earth. Therefore, yqxm means, "a molten like pillar."
Sounds like volcanoes desu. I take the Bible more figuratively than literally, but the descriptions of pillars sound like volcanoes/mountains/tectonic plates. This still works in the globular earth theory, using gravity and core pressures with the crust moving across a molten mantle.

>>18369099
Do kanye wests and BOBs theories count? What about Tyson the black science guy?

>>18373490

I never knew Eratosthenes did that. American public school taught me that Galileo was the first just like they said Marconi invented radio. What a scam.

>>18373599

wait so rockets without escape velocity are proof of a dome? are you saying that gravity is machine made and is an invisible dome around the earth?

>>18374179

Astrology might be based on the cyclical nature of the seasons.

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>>18368892
Anyone remember THEY LIVE? That movie kinda freaked me out. What if the Aliens ARE all around us and controlling us?

Also that fight scene I think is the longest in movie history omg so bad as in Terrible. lol.

>>18368892
the conspiracy that evryone invents conspiracies in order to justify their passivity

>>18373130
that isnt nearly high enough lol.
Also the most obvious question to me would be, Why WHY would they fake a round earth

>>18374763
fuck you, They Live is badass.

>>18368892
The shock comes from experiencing it first-hand. In some ways, something isn't true unless you've witnessed it yourself anyway.

>>18374763
bro, it's because it's a metaphor for how hard it is to get people to see the truth, they will literally FIGHT for the lie they've been sold.
>symbolism bro

>>18369092
what really happened

>hey we're MS and need to make even more money
>let's make video games
>pump out a shitty doom clone

fastforward future year

>wow apple sure his stealing our market share
>i know their *insert shitty feature* here is great
>let's copy *shitty feature*
>let's name it
>..CORTANA!
>BRILLIANT!
>*raises everyones salary*

>>18373414
You realize there's a tidal effect on the opposite side of the planet as well, right?

>>18373625
Ok idiot, how come I can take my telescope and point a laser at the fucking mirror they planted on the moon back when we landed on it and get a reflection?

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>>18374833
I meant the fight scene, I loved the movie.

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>>18368892
In terms of genuine shock if it turned out to be real.

>Tavistock Clinic still being active, and actually working
>Reptoids control everything
>Some genuine alien plan to get rid of 2/3 of the population
>No disclosure purely because of depopulation plans
>Aliens are among us and are impersonating humans. This goes along with depopulation plans because they hate us.
>Grays are us from the future
>Black Knight satellite wasn't made by humans, but is being protected by us
>10-foot-tall praying mantis-like aliens actually exist, and wouldn't just die of bacterial infections upon coming to Earth
>Plans to colonize Mars are corporate plans to exterminate humans on Earth, take the money left, and leave. I have no idea why colonization is #1 on the list compared to setting up observational stations. Same applies to the moon.

F..fuck off spaceniggers...

>>18373257
No, sir. You do not disregard someone's opinion solely on the basis of it seeming unbelievable, that is bad science. He has provided answers to all of our questions, and though the idea behind them may seem outlandish, we are still bound by the very principles of scientific evaluation to recognize his viewpoint, and analyze the evidence he has provided from a completely unbiased and objective point of view. That goes for all of you here; whether or not you agree with this man makes no difference, if you plan on rejecting his views, do so with evidence in support of your claim. If you plan on supporting his views, do so with evidence in support of your claim. Don't just tel people to disregard it like this dumb cunt right here. We need to remember how often cognitive dissonance has played a role in the suppression of progress, and the progression of ignorance in the field of science, always keep an open mind my brothers and sisters

>>18368892
Bailey Jay doesn't do porn at all but just uses camtricks and cgi to make people think so.

>>18373151
>skipped over earthquakes/volcanoes

>>18373151
how do you explain ice ages with a flat earth?

>>18372980
right mate, so how can people sail all the way around the earth without turning and without dropping off an edge

people have literally started at one point, gone straight forward and arrived at that same point

this is the thing that eradicates flat earth nonsense

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>>18375188
Navigation it's done by two methods, magnetic reference using a compass, the position of the stars using an astrolabe, according to flat earth theory, both methods can't be trusted.

Every one that sailed, if they went the opposite direction of continental land eventually reached Ice land, known as Antartica, they reached this ice land sailing from south america going south, and from Australia going south, so they made the logic assumption that they reached the same ice land, cause sphere earth was already the mainstream belief.

South pole wasn't reached until the XXth century, so until then and for many years after that, nobody crossed the entire continent, long enough for the theory to be established and accepted as true.

Why the conspiracy to deny the fact that the earth it's flat, and that there's an ice wall around it?

I can think of many reasons, but those are mere speculation.

>>18368892
>What conspiracies would actually shock you if they ended up being true?

Oswald acted alone

>>18369221
>man made climate change is real

yeah but not even the 50th most dangerous environmental threat we face

>>18371408

are you describing a masonic/druid alliance trying to fuck with the British monarchy heroin and prostitution Vatican cabal?

>>18375211
dubs of truth. earth must be flat.

>>18375211
>according to flat earth theory,

what else has the CIA been telling you?

2pac still being alive. Even better if he really is in Serbia.

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>>18375250
>Implying CIA doesn't has it's jimmies rustled.

>>18369293
The last cold period haopened during the 1500s so your maths doesnt add up faggot

>>18368892
here's one for your this thread was just deleted

http://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/18374839/#18375180

last thread i made about it was also deleted and I was banned

>>18373151
Take your meds, please.

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>>18373851
The gif that was posted is Jupiter, but Saturn does have a hexagonal vortex at the north pole.

>>18369647
The Jews are reptilians,