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I've 20 years old and I've never had a single friend

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I've 20 years old and I've never had a single friend once in my life. My family basically ignored me since I was young so I grew up unaware of how to communicate or share my feelings properly.

I'm at the end of my role here and im getting desperate. I've always been a person whose believed in a "other side" if you wanna call it that and my experiences with dmt have shown me just how populated this other side is.

So my question is it legitimately possible to form a lasting friendship with one of these spirits or creatures that inhabit just beyond the realm of understand.

I'm not asking for a succubus or a fucking tulpa. I just want to know if one of these things would even care to listen to me when the suicidal thoughts fill my head.
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Seems like a good way to get possessed
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Why not to have a friend? I can be your friend, anon.
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>>18358046
Internet "friends" just end up disappearing and causing me more grief in the end

I want an irl friend. I don't care if it's not a human one.
I'm ready to fucking let Satan take me to hell if it means I can communicate with someone face to face
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Bro don't do it. Meeting friends is hard. Go out and do things. Go to a college and career group at church. Your leaning towards the wrong side.

I had friends and then i moved last year. I haven't made any friends where I moved... I'm 31. You have to show camaraderie. Go on a mission trip with people you'll meet people for sure
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>>18358058
I can't do church. I believe in a god and I even believe in what they consider demons but my opinons outside of that are too different to find any common ground.
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>>18358058
This.

It can be hard to make friends especially if you're already settled in a place, have you got a job OP?
coworkers are a good start and from there you'll learn good social skills to which you can apply to other areas! Making friends is easy when you're in the right place, you've just got to find the right place my friend. Also don't tamper with these sorts of things too much, you might reach a point of no return.
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>>18358057
Real friends disappear and cause grief in the end too. Or maybe I just never had any real friends. Fuck that, I can't have real friends, I hate people in reality.
You already have a friend, anon. They're inside you.
Satan took me to hell already and I didn't get much in return so I suggest you just learn to be happy with yourself.
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>>18358063
My man, church is full of people who doubt. No rational human has it all figured out. Most people just want companionship. And I for one don't check my brain at the door. Besides. You can be a heathen and still want to help others. So that is my opinion. Go out and volunteer. Invest in others. Holidays are here. Go to a soup kitchen or something. I guarantee you will meet another good soul to bond with. People become friends by accomplishing things together. Not on a computer. Peace.
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>>18358106
>People become friends by accomplishing things together. Not on a computer.
But you can accomplish things together on a computer. Are you saying my internet friends aren't friends? REEEEEEEEEEE
fucking bully
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>18358063
You don't need to believe in bible to go to church. Its just a means to meet people. Half the people you find there will be there for the sole reason of meeting other people.
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>>18358120
Clearly anon isn't satisfied with the level of friendship on a computer. It may be adequate for some. Stop pushing your reality onto the rest of us
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>>18358140
You started it.
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>>18358150
Correct. Peace and love
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>>18358011
>So my question is it legitimately possible to form a lasting friendship with one of these spirits
Yep, I think it's just the one though.
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>>18358150
You said a mean thing first
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>>18358172
Untrue. Unless I have one spirit friend with multiple personality disorder that can change shape, I have a few.
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My one online friend from 4chan killed herself last year. I still have some online friends but some IRL ones I can talk about 4chan with would be nice. (also qt3.14)
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>>18358011
You sound like you have schizotypal personality disorder like me. We can be online friends :)
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>>18358011
You absolutely can.

Manifest a 'thoughtform' body for one to inhabit to be around you and you'll have your own invisible companion.

You could even find a lover but that requires much more focus.

In your social isolation though you might not be in a proper mindset to make a thoughtform without a few weeks of daily meditation.

Communication is through your own thoughts usually (like telepathy bit less obvious), so you do need to figure out what thoughts originate from you and which ones come from other sources.

OP, your desires are attainable.
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>>18358186
Maybe the one spirit enjoys your company so genuinely that it allows you to give it multiple identities.
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Can I be your friend anon? I have no friends too
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>>18358011
ITT we talk about autism
>inb4 "autism isn't paranormal"
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>>18358011

Having autism isn't paranormal, OP.
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>>18358011
i would thread lightly on the other side, remember rational is good and good is rational...
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offer yourself fully to the spirits you worship. act upon the slightest inkling of spirituality and resist the fear that naturally accompanies it.

there is no proper way to communicate. just be aware of how honest you are being and correct yourself when you are not. i dont think of spirits as people who are constantly watching, judging and interacting with me. i see them as subtle parts of physical reality that influence and are influenced by me. impersonal yet expressive. sporadic yet reliable. suicidal thinking is just an invitation for destructive spirits, so concentrate on its polarity, if that is what you wish.
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>>18358011
>I have 20 years old
This is why you have no friends.
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>>18358057

I don't know about what you're asking, but if you want a friend, and "don't care if it's not a human one", I'd suggest getting a pet. An affectionate one.

I don't mean to say this in a mocking way, and since I dont have experiences with DMT or what you're talking about, I can't be of much help.

But I can say that sometimes the companionship a good pet can offer, will be more healing than that of a person. It'll be for sure "more" inconditional.
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>>18358011
Sorry to hear that, man. But you don't want to put your trust in entities like that. You have to be very cautious as many are manipulative, much more so than humans.
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>>18358203
>schizotypal personality disorder
Sounds like me to a degree. How to contact you?

>loved poppa
>leaves me at ~five cos mum cheated on him with a black guy or something
>have to live with poor solo mum and bossy sis who bullied me and now won't even talk to me after lending her most my inheritance and getting pissy at me for insisting on knowing when to get it back
>make good friends in school but they leave me soon after due to moving a lot
>feel close with friends online and some humans, but they're too busy with their lives to form close relationships with
>not in govt education or working
>probably gonna join cult soon or blaze a trail motivated by making cash these humans all seem to worship
>love uncorrupted material nature and idea of Indian deities, archangels and other strong, beautiful, benevolent beings
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>>18358011
jesus christ just use a chatroom and jerk off to some porn
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>>18358011
Every spirit and form of life on this planet is vile creep filth with retarded clown personalities.

If you have a friend or relationship or even jerk off to porn of these beings its called being very disgusting.

Stay alone or be absolute waste
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>>18358011
For suicidal thoughts you need an angel. Nothing less will do.
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>>18358011
I am a lot like you anon. I am 23 I was the youngest child in my family, and I never really felt like I could connect with anyone around me. This gave me lots of trouble in school and I eventually dropped out. I was suicidal and for a while I didn't think I would make it. I took DMT after I turned 18 and discovered some of what you did, but also lots of fear and anger towards society. i realized that spirit was real, I wanted to wake up on December 21 2012. I started lucid dreaming, and practicing ritual magic so I could learn how to astral travel.

For a while I had this idea of a higher self, the soul of me that exists within every moment. I wanted to create physical expression for this soul. I started experimenting with mental alchemy and chemistry. I learned to focus my mind and view the outside world with my eyes closed. I created genetic codes that would give me telepathic powers of observation.

When I started to become a telepath, I discovered that there were these sparkles of light that I could see. When I think a thought of the other, like I know their soul within them I see the light flicker or blink. These lights seem to connect with other entities living in the spiritual realm. I met a person on a spiritual website, and he also had this light. He was aware of the spirit and could communicate with it, most of what I could do was to form the energy into portals that myself, or other spirits could appear through.

I started trying to bring more of the energy to my body, I would envision myself through my expanded mind. I can see it as dark matter that has a flow of energetic consciousness through it. On mushrooms I explored ideas of Christianity, it seems like I want this dark material inside my soul to shine and become alive in the spirit.
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>>18358690
I started to feel the presence of familiar spirits. I thought I was an occultist in a past life, and was rediscovering my spiritual guides and allies.

One day I was traveling awake and aware in the dream realm, and I saw a being. He started chasing me, I always tried to run away. When he caught me I would wake up. I prayed for protection from him, I thought he was a demon. One day he caught me, told me he loves me. Then we had sex a few times in various dreams. One time I felt him, and when the sexual energy was about to reach my heart I embraced my self hatred and anger, and pushed it all away. I prevented this sex from become pure love, I guess i'm a bit of a coward.

One day I was scared and feeling alone. I was meditating and the sexual energy came back to me. I learned to move it around my right shoulder blade. This became quite blissful, but it was also a sort of pain too. I moved it around my body, until it reached my third eye area. I saw a flash of blue light, and felt like I had discovered Buddha. I heard the words Michael. I worked with this energy for a while, trying to remember myself. I tried to remember what michael knows. I found Sophia, and Samael.

I worked with tree of life and kabbalah. I started trying to bring the energy to to the tifereth sephirot.

When I rediscovered love, I also found connections to entities living in other starsystems. I learned how to move my dreaming awareness to other worlds. I traveled to Arcturus and saw two energetic alien beings. They were living spiritual energy. They shined some kind of psychic flashlight on my third eye, I shied away afraid of what they would have me know and remember. Before I left this planet, one of them hugged my spine with their consciousness and I felt an overwhelming love for me.
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>>18358707

Then I traveled to a Pleiadian planet. I felt their presence observing me, but I was not ready to meet them as spirits face to face. I saw their rainbow light in the water and one of the fish in their ocean kissed me.
Then I returned to earth I wanted to find the old spiritual demons from the ancient world. I reminded one of the pleiades, and the love they have there. He started looking a lot less like a demon, and more like an awesome being of light. I realized that humanity used the spiritual world for works of dark magic, and then disconnected themselves from it. The demon was Astarte, the root chakra sex was really a new thing for me. I knew that it was a way for men to love each other, to have spiritual connection between our astral bodies and the physical world.

War was just a way for humans to kill the perceived rival, but when we connect with the life force of each other, our spirits can co-create a loving spiritual realm where death is no more.

For a while I learned to imagine a loving being embracing my heart chakra from my spine, and then surrendering my perception. This opened me up to connected with alternate dimensions. They started teaching me how to use the spiritual energy. I learned a low about female energy, and then started finding Sophia. I was always able to summon her by singing into the astral world, and she would channel me words to sing with and energy to create with my voice.

Now I see the sparkles and flashes of light when I think of the. I know they are always watching over us. When we reach a place of love in our hearts we can become aware of them too.
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Well I have similar problems to yours.

Yes I've been a fucking loser and a disgrace all of my life, but I'm not going to attempt to call forth a malevolent entity to be my "friend".

Maybe life is better without friendship, maybe there needs to be some kind of aspiration in life that will lead you to better people, definitely don't try to cross over to the other side and reach out because that's too risky.
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>>18358624
How do I summon an angel?

Not OP, but I'm really depressed and suicidal at times
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>>18358731
You might summon Lucifer instead.

Since he's an angel as well.
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>>18358731
Heatfelt prayer, and faith. Then you have to become silent enough in your own heart and mind to hear them. Its more like a walky talky. You send a message, then you have to stop talking long enough to hear the response.
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>>18358749
Thank you.
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>>18358057
You can easily do the opposite and go to heaven and talk to God. Fucking underage edge lords
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>>18358011
I am now your friend. There is nothing you can do to change this. While you may not know me yet, I know you. Anticipate me.
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I've done dmt but I'm too pussy to breakthrough, how was it for you and your method off intake?
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>>18358576
Sorry I'm late to reply, I was asleep. In my experience Schizotypal is both a blessing and a curse. On one hand I am able to have these incredible spiritual experiences without the aid of drugs. Because my internal logic system is impaired I have a vivid imagination that keep sme occupied and allows me to conceive "far-out" ideas. On thre other hand I can hardly socialize and I can't make friends easily because I am paranoid and filled with social anxiety. There are some things that I just meh like how my speech can sometimes become a strange as though I'm writing a research paper.
>walking home one day
>girl runs up to me and says "you look sad"
> I say to her "I assure you in verity that there exists precisely zero elements of sadness in my present psyche"
As far as weird spiritual experiences
>walking late at night
>decide to lay down in a field and look at the stars
>suddenly I lose track of my body and it's as though I am floating
>wherever I think to move I do so
>I feel so connected to the spirits and the univser
>snap out of and feel amazing
If you want to contact me join the /x/ discord server my username is Non-Self
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>>18358011
They inhabit Love
You have to love them to communicate with them
Type "list of angels / archangels / bodhisattvas / buddhas" on google, feel which one do you love and pray to him
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>>18358011
The only way your going to find any answers about life is by living it. Flat out. If you can't stand your family, ask them to help you move out. It might give you a sense of what you need, or what is best for you. It might give you the opportunity to find people that don't suck. They do exist. but there is no such thing as a friend that just gives and never takes. Never hurts. That's absurd. Some do it passively and get you to sell your soul through kindness. In this other realm your toying with, your fodder to some of those that exist there. Energy to consume. To lock away and harvest. This is the kind of thing you look back on with regret. You've already invited the bad energy with action, and it will fill your world before you have time to notice. Be careful about what you wish for. It's not the only truth that can end you.
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got a steam? snapchat?
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>>18358011
They will not be friends with you. They will judge you and call you a child. And they will be right
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>more faggy roleplaying
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>>18359941
stop being mean :(
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>>18358011
Are you still here Op? I could do little astrological reading for you, just tell me your:
date of birth, hour of birth, place of birth, you have to be precise.

I use Vedic system so I can look into your karma.

I'm loner too anon, I was through hard period in 2015, every day was like dying inside. Thanks God I had access to psychedelics, it filled me with hope, helped to survive and make peace with the past and future in this quite boring world.
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>>18360103
im not OP but could you read mine?
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>>18360108
12/12/1995
10:30am
Monterrey, Nuevo león, México (city, state, country)
more precisely 25.674605,-100.337607
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>>18360110
You are Capricorn Ascendant with bunch of planets in 12 house, shit it seems like you deal a lot with foreign lands or you are extremely imaginative plus spiritual. Similar combinations to David Bowie. Moon in cancer in 7th, nice empathetic placement creating quite powerful yoga but moon will kick in 2031. Some kind of disconnection from the home I see also because of ketu in 4th

You are probably from kinda wealthy or well situated(and disciplined) family.
Around 2013 you experienced some kind of brake through in terms of social position or being on the top(sport maybe, or some creative shit), around beginning of 2016 you had opportunity to go to the foreign lands, probably for educations.
This is pattern lasting to 2018. Then Saturn period will kick in, maybe ending of education, you will probably start to work and earn money plus family matters will become important. In 2018 mercury period will kick in and Sun in 11th get activated, probably expansion and attempt to fulfill worldly ambitions.
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>>18360135
what does it means having a lot of planet in 12 house?
what is "sun in 11th"?

boy the 2013 social brake was real, what are the odds
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OP, get a pet. Then do therapy

>>18358058
This is bs. The problems he carry, a lifelong of not knowing how to deal with other people, won't be fixed by a college group or religious folks.
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>>18360162
12th house and 11th house are areas of life.
12th deals with foreign lands, lone research, dreams, other worlds, absolute liberation.

11th represents worldly ambitions, desires that include you and your position in the world and how your actions(10th house) impact the world.

If you have planets(consciousness) in certain houses then it means this area of life is very important in your path.
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>>18360176
where can i learn about this? the meaning of saturn and mercury periods in my life
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>>18360184
Anon, what do you do in life?
To be honest most of the people don't need this shit, I do it because I have nothing better to do for now.
You can look for channels on youtube or some sites about vedic astrology but in most cases you will find description that are out of our day and age, site of barbarapijanlama is nice for the beginning probably.
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Same here. I have been diagnosed with aspergers syndrome as well OP.
Every single person who has ever talked/interacted with me always wanted something from me. And especially my roommates in college to this day I have panic attacks and get extremely angry and upset whenever I remember about it or see anything that slightly resembles the situation.
I hope they feel just the way I felt someday
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>>18358058
OP please don't take advice from the 31 year old giving out advice on 4chan.
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>>18360103
Would you please read mine?
25/6/1996
13:15
Frankston, Australia
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>>18358057
>Internet "friends" just end up disappearing and causing me more grief in the end
Soooooo like irl friends?
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>>18358011
Do you believe DMT entities or realities are real? Never done it and wondered if that shits real? Read a book on it. All I know is I consider myself one of the deepest people there is and when I go to dmtnexus a forum for people who do DMT I noticed everyone there is deeper than me and its a mind fuck!

https://www.dmt-nexus.me
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>>18358057
I think normies get friends through hobbies. If you have money take up paintball its fun as fuck and could make friends that way. Its pricey but you get the jist.
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>>18358011
Is that you Leafy?
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Hey man if your into taking dmt maybe try smoking weed and maybe acid it certainly helped me hate life less when I was younger and if it really gets awful even heroin has its place. Suicide is drearily final and dark entities living inside you can freak people out when they start talking for you. Having said that I'm a loser who likes to get depraved and do whatever comes to mind at the time so I suppose doing what you want would be your right. P.S. if you start taking meth you've gone too far and might need to re evaluate
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It seems like you are in a negative emotional state. I would suggest being a bit more realistic about your life. There are no spirits that are going to communicate with you. Go to meetup and find a group that of something you like. And put yourself out there. You don't have to hang out with douchbag party people to find someone. Find one or two people to hang with, and it will go from there. Also you are very young. This is a time when most people feel like this. It will pass, and things will change. Don't feed into your emotions. Find a job and a friend and just live your life. best of luck
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>>18358011

>I've 20 years old and I've never had a single friend once in my life.

You're afraid of vulnerability.

You have had friends, you just don't see them as such.

You need to love yourself more, and understand you're worth more than what you allow yourself.
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If you kill yourself you'll enjoy the other side op. Holy fuck the autism...
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>>18363096

No he won't, the "other side" is just more of the same cycle in a slightly more broken reality.
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>>18358011
You still there? I'll be your friend dude
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