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What do yall think of Mantak Chia? or perhaps more specifically

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What do yall think of Mantak Chia? or perhaps more specifically does anyone here practice the taoist techniques he talks about such as the microcosmic orbit + semen retention
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>>18094477

I retain all my semen in an old Evian bottle. I've collected approximately 1.2l since 1994. I also have 8 shoeboxes full of toenail clippings I have been saving since I was 5 years old.
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>>18094487
how beneficial would you say that practice is for your shitposting
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>>18094504

I think the two are unconnected.
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>>18094487
only 1.2L in all those years? I remember when I was younger filling a 750ml monster can in the course of a few months.
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>>18094522

I am perhaps more restrained than you in your teenage years. I was 23 when I began semen retention.
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Dangerous. Will very likely mess up your mind, emotions and energy body. I occasionally have to fix people who have got into serious difficulties with these practices. Don't take my word for it, read what Bruce Frantzis has to say about him, and how as Bruce was a chi gung master working in the same region as Chia, he would often have to fix his "basket cases."
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>>18094646
>Dangerous. Will very likely mess up your mind, emotions and energy body.

kek
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>>18094646
I'm not finding much on Frantzis vs Chia although now that I am looking into Chia controversy I am digging some things up

however the microcosmic orbit dealie seems pretty powerful

looks like the controversy has to do mostly with the sexual practices which isnt too surprising
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>>18094477
>What do yall think of Mantak Chia
Fuck Asians. That's what I think.
> semen retention

OMFG. NO. I am not a doctor (yet), but please do not do this. It is not healthy.
Dr. Anon says to empty your balls out at least once every two weeks. Having sex once a week or so is the best sexual health.

>I need help and wrongfully are trusting Asians that actually give no fucks about white people and will tell you things that they know will hurt you just because they think it is funny and want to joke about their friends in Asain speak

He's referring to the tantra. Kundalini is another school of the tantra. Do not study the tantra without a teacher (WHO IS NOT OUT TO SCREW YOU OVER, BTW) because you will go insane.

Just bein' Frank.
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>>18094540
The semen retention gave you hysteria (yes, just like a girl who needs the D a hundred years ago) and made you infertile. I would know.

Also, your mom ate too much chicken when she was pregnant with you. Dumb blonde's natal diet made your balls hang too close to your body. That is not good for fertility, either.

#science
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>>18094927
>He's referring to the tantra. Kundalini is another school of the tantra. Do not study the tantra without a teacher because you will go insane.

Sounds like pussytalk to me. What are you anon, too big a bitch to channel the Kundalini?
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>>18094878
The microcosmic orbit is a natural function. The problem with Chia's methods is that they power up energy and force it around the body. Our 'energy blockages' are our emotional and psychological 'stuff'. Power energy through them and you may release some, but you will very likely also power up the blockages themselves. Done with a competent teacher these techniques can work. But there aren't many of them around. Chi gung 'masters' working this way tend to be a bit mental and ego maniacs. Doing these techniques on your own from a book or YouTube is practically guaranteeing misery.

The safer chi gung techniques are the ones which use more gentle releasing techniques to clear tensions and 'blockages'. The process may not produce such dramatic effects in the short term, but ensures the body has a chance to integrate changes and promote long-term stability.
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Lol keeping your semen in a bottle isn't retention.
I laugh at those who say that we need sexual activity to remain healthy, that is the biggest lie of the 21st century,
Doctors are allied to drug and pharmisutical companies, they won't tell you what's best for your health, they will tell you to take what's most beneficial for their pockets.
Explain to me any doctor or anyone on that path how retaining sexual fluid is in any way harmful
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>>18095064
those guys talking about the bottle stuff were joking

I've found some success from semen retention myself
the body (or at least mine) seems to default to a 3 week cycle which naturally ends in a wet dream. The last few days before that wet dream you're in a testosterone/confidence high
but it goes away with the wet dream
so I've been reading up on alternatives i guess something more consistent

at the very least there's something to it
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been using his semen retention techniques for like 7 years. wouldn't have it any other way
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>>18095081
Start some lucid dream practices and you can eleminate wet dreams.
Retention also entails restraining from sexual thought and desire not just action. Just like females males have a monthly hormone cycle, you can use this to learn a bit about your bodily hormones and how to control them a bit better.
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The longest I've gone with semen retention is 42 days, with about four wet dreams, none of which seemed to expel any actual sperm or seminal fluid, just seemed more like precum. Clear fluid, not white.

During this period my emotions became both more unstable at times and stronger and more stable in others. I lost a lot of my anxiety around other people and my visual perceptions and visual dream perceptions gained a lot of clarity, as well as the strength of my bodily health.

There was one dream in particular that seemed hyper real in terms of the visual perceptions.

There was sparkling white fluid rising out of my chest that almost seemed like liquid light. I know that this coincides with the idea of the astral cord or in the ayurvedic system the heart ojas.

The most difficult thing about retention, it seems, is that in the transition phase, the period between seven to thirty days, I seem to get all sorts of extremely strong negative emotions.

Anxiety, loneliness, but they're as I mentioned above, sporadic and intense, and then they seem to go away.

The number of times that I've tried to successfully practice semen retention convinces me that, at least for me, it is a major contribution toward achieving psychological stability and spiritual realization.

That is not to say that there might be many people which it is not good for that do not know how to control the energies that are present when doing a retention practice.
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>>18095160
>posts long discussion about his dick, considers himself "achieving psychological stability and spiritual realization."
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>>18095171
Not achieving, trying.

You're cute.
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>>18095160
Thanks anon. Never seriously considered it. I worry if I go too long I'll be putting out sex vibes and women would find it weird, can't risk that in my job, any thoughts?
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>>18095564
http://www.dlshq.org/download/brahmacharya.htm

The opposite is true. I become more comfortable around everyone, I don't put out as much of that predatory "want to fuck you" vibe around women, therefore they feel more comfortable around me, and I become more charismatic around them.

There are finer points than just not jerking off. It's sort of like a pressure cooker. If you let your mind go to that place, the pressure cooker blows out of the aperture to what ever you're desiring/attracted to.

In that link I attached swami vivekananda talks about the "three pillars of atman (the soul)" mind, prana, and veerya.

If you have no control of your mind, then all the veerya you have built up will explode one way or another. If you are able to keep your mind clear and one pointed, and not allow yourself to be caught by desire, all of that additional energy filters into physical and mental tasks.

I think it depends on your nature. When I masturbate regularly I put out more "sex vibes" and not less. Ironically, if you go long enough you don't think about sex at all, unless you allow yourself too.

Semen retention is really paired hand in hand with meditation.
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I will add, the only danger that I have struggled with is a period of depression when I stop relying on orgasms for dopamine.

I suspect it's revealing deeper drives that I have been medicating with pornography.
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Very interested, thanks. I've had a long period of enforced celibacy which is not usual for me. I've various management strategies but never tried abstinence. I'll read the link.
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>>18095663
Take it with a grain of salt.
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>>18094646
>>18094878

>Frantzis vs. Chia

Honestly, senpai? Aside from skimming through one of Chia's books, I don't know much about either of these guys. All I know is, one of them is slim, has a full head of hair and nice skin. The other has mantits, is bald, has the skin of am an his age and generally looks worse than my dad who's the same age and smokes, eats red meat, drinks and works a competitive job.

I know it's shallow, but you've gotta draw the line somewhere, don't you? If I dedicated my life to Taoism and ended up looking worse than my old man, I'd feel seriously stupid.

Am I being a cunt?
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>>18095913

To add to this,

In all fairness, I don't see the point of Mantak Chia's ideas of putting pressure on your gooch to stop your load from coming out. Doesn't it just go into your bladder so you piss it out later? That appears to be what happens, so what's the point? And any guy will tell you that jerking off without releasing leads to pain.

Seems like celibacy is more in line with what his ideas, but he doesn't wanna be that guy.
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>>18096062
Jerking without coming has always seemed like a failed attempt to work around the problem.

Having your cake and eating it too. I have edged long enough to know that it's a fool's errand.

Your balls will hurt like shit and you might get an infection.
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