So what exactly was the MK ultra program anyway? I don't

It’s sort of a blanket term to describe a whole range of various counter-intelligence programs. Here’s interesting write-ups on the subject that gets overlooked.

http://www.gnosticmedia.com/SpiesinAcademicClothing_MKULTRA

http://conspiracy.wikia.com/wiki/Monarch_Mind_Control

They used drugs on pregnant women so they'd give birth to children that could be used as weapons and open up a rift to the Vale of Shadows

>>17995124
Rise and shine mr freeemaan

>>17995039
According to the CIA, MKUltra and MKUltr-1 were attempts to create mind control through drugs like LSD and other sources. They also claim that test subjects agreed to the tests, but had no idea who was doing them, why they were doing them, or what the purpose of them was. Of all the governmental organs, only the CIA seems to take the FOIA seriously. They do admit to destroying files or conveniently losing them prior to FOIA going into effect, however.

Originally a project started by the Nazis and adopted by the US, MKUltra was a mind control project with the intention to find a way to fracture the human psyche. The theory is that when a person goes through a traumatic experience their brain suppresses the event into a "sub persona", this "persona" could be brought forth by the right uses of key phrases or images. The idea was that they could create assassins that would live normal lives in a foreign nation and can become "activated" with the use of a trigger. If captured they would retreat into another persona that has no knowledge of the events and in turn can not be interrogated or tortured for information because the persona wouldn't actually know. This lead to harrowing accounts of men, women, and even children being dosed with LSD, being put through extreme conditions that include but is not limited to rape, beatings, emotional abuse, isolation, and paranoia.
The project was eventually scrapped with no word of any successes but the project was adoped again by the CIA under the moniker Project Monarch.

Behavior modification from single person to entire countries. They used it to create the Arab Spring and probably many school shooters.

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>>17995315
These. They took "volunteers" and pumped them full of ridiculous amounts of LSD and other drugs of the sort, for days or weeks at a time. It was quickly discovered that that's a terrible idea that doesn't lead to being able to control people's minds, just fucks them up real bad.

>>17996570
Or was it? The program was 'discontinued' sometime in the 70's, but lots of tinfoils, myself included, think the program is still alive and well, probably being run by an intelligence contractor. I mean, even if the program wasn't 100% successful, i.e. Creating fractured personalities that can be used as assassins or whatever, it still achieved enough success to not justify scrapping the whole thing. For example, prior to 1965ish, the 'participation' rate of combat soldiers that actively aimed and fired at enemy soldiers in combat, with the intent to kill them was around 25-30%. Right around the onset of the Vietnam war, new training methodologies were implemented, Pavlovian specifically, that resulted in the participation rate climbing to over 90%. Coincident with the new training, was the rise in cases of PTSD among returning veterans. MK Ultra was cherry picked for lessons learned which were used by all western militaries.

monitoring

>>17995315
It worked.

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>>17995039
The CIA thought that LSD would be the perfect mind control drug, but being all ethical and shit they knew they had to test it out first. You can't just give some KGB faggot an untested drug, because who knows what might happen. So logically they did the tests on American citizens. For example they paid hookers to slip it to their customers, while the spooks monitored the results. They also slipped their own unknowing coworkers hits too. The reason we know this is because some of the top secret documents were accidentally not destroyed, and eventually released to the public. Not all of the documents mind you, just the ones that they neglected to destroy like they were supposed to. That's where the conspiracy theory bullshit comes in. Because slipping people acid without their knowledge or consent isn't bad enough. No, we've got to also pretend like it really is a mind control drug, and that the program was anything but the abysmal failure that it actually was.

They also thought that they could stare at goats long enough to exert psychic power over them or something. That movie was based on a true story for real. It just was a lot more boring than Hollywood tried to make it sound. The Cold War was a really bizarre and crazy time.

>>17996661
And just what would lead one to believe that? I wouldn't put nearly anything past the Government (any government) or Corporations, it's just that people who are always screaming about MKULTRA can't point to anything concrete, aside from the shit that the CIA itself acknowledges.

>the rise in cases of PTSD among returning veterans.

It's always existed. People just didn't give a fuck about vets in the past. Still don't really, but they are one of those issues/causes that attention whores can take up without having to actually do anything.

>>17996570
Well they did more than just dose people with acid... What that was has been lost or covered up. Like I said before, the CIA admits to destroying and "accidentally" losing files right before FOIA went into effect. In fact most CIA info about MKULTRA is letters between correspondents about the missing files. There was a pretty obvious attempt at cover-up.

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Some people claim that the Unabomber is a former MK Ultra test subject.

>People don't know that we've known about scopolamine for a long time and probably improved on it since

When you look up how many assassins of important figures in the US have memory loss starting before they carried out the act and lasting beyond it, you don't even have to wonder about some things.

Mk ultra etc.
1. Inducement of a critical state.
2. The alimentation of the critical process.
3. The redefinement of the psycho being.
4. The growth of the psycho being.
5. The nourishment of prerequisites.
6. The focus of the critical thinker.
7. The deterioration of the "ultra" psycho dynamic process.
8. The begining of the nurtured host.
9. The exposure to the the identical hosts.
10. The creation of the common living stability.

>>17996748
Sure, PTSD has always existed, but never in the numbers we see in present day, and certainly not on the levels we saw during/after Vietnam. Whent hat war ended the VA was in full on crisis mode, with thousands of vets not receiving any sort of compensation for decades after. See "On Killing" by Lt. Col. Dave Grossman, it's a great book, and all about how the changes in basic Infantry training after WW2 directly led to the sharp increase of PTSD cases. Essentially what he's saying is that in humans there is an innate resistance to harming another member of the same species, and that the new methods of training have essentially overcome those barriers making soldiers more effective in the field, but at the cost of their sanity in some cases. PTSD is a disorder characterized by extreme feelings of guilt, guilt about killing. There was one interesting chapter all about the 'fight or flight' concept and how when confronted by a threat, say a bear or tiger, those are the two options the brain defaults to, either fight it or run away. But when confronted b a threat from another person, two new options present themselves, 'posture,' or 'submit.' so you can either fight, run away, puff yourself up to scare the other guy into running away, or submit to their power. Wars in the past, especially the distant past were just huge shoving matches, with the majority of killing happening once the enemy turned and ran, when the attackers didn't have to see the faces of their foes. During the American Civil War, rifles were recovered from battlefields with 3 and 4 rounds in the chamber, meaning the soldiers that dropped them loaded in unison with their comrades, then pretended to fire, and loaded again etc. During WW2, most soldiers that were in combat reported firing over the heads of the enemy, again, posturing, trying to entice them into surrendering rather than kill them.

>>17996889
he definitely was. When he was a student at Harvard, he took part in psychiatric tests that were run by a psychologist that was linked to MK Ultra