Deep Sea Spooks. We have only explored about 10% of earth's

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>>17851451
>34 000ft

Whoops, correct that to 36 000.

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For reference, each of these arms are about the length of a flagpole.

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The ocean is terrifying to me because 1. we know what IS out there, 2. we DON'T know what else is out there, 3. vast nothingness 4. Cthulhu

But on the bright side, maybe Godzilla

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>>17851495

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>>17851501

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>>17851506

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Obligatory /x/ post.

This is an actual underwater crashed plane.

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>>17851508

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>>17851512

>>17851508
>exploring europa

Oh god I wonder what horrors awaits below that ice layer.

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>>17851562

The moon has probably been covered completely in ice for millions of years. Just imagine what shit a completely sealed water-world could cook up during that time.

>>17851512
I have the spoopiest boner right now.

>>17851569
Movie rec: Europa Report. It's pretty good. Not too spoopy, though

>>17851484
also the shorter one is a penis

Giant lobsters imo

>>17851628
any other good movies that deal with deep sea spooks?

>>17851462
Oh man, I wish there was a way to see the distance to the sea floor from a boat in the middle of the ocean. I bet I'd get vertigo.

>>17851511
Hey now

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>>17851904
OP here.

I definitely reccommend Sphere.
Its got mystery, some sci fi elements, anglerfish spooks, giant squid, and is a generally unnerving but exciting movie.

>>17851512
I'd tap that

>>17851494
He happy because he thinks he's about to get a high five.

Also that perspective makes it look like the fisherman is spotting a giant hand.

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If you're looking for deep sea spookies, check out Subnautica guys. A comfy yet terrifying alien ocean exploration game.

>>17852253
yeah but none of it is real, it's all in their imagination, or at least the one dude's imagination, until they all figure out they have the power

>what's down there

Mud. Trash. Some worms and crabs and a few fish.

>the lowest known point

The lowest point. The floor of the ocean has been extensively mapped. You can argue about what sort of resolution it's been mapped in, but there aren't any undiscovered deep sea trenches.

>>17852464
Looks like you missed the point.

The sphere gave the power to manifest things, which is what the first guy kept doing unintentionally.

His book reading and his innermost fears caused the spooky eels, the giant squid and everything to literally manifest physically in the real world.

>>17851511
He looks friendly.

>>17852473
>There aren't any undiscovered deep sea trenches

And you know this... Because how?

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>>17852473
>The floor of the ocean has been extensively mapped.

We know its topology, sure, but not a lot about what might live down there. More importantly, the SIZES of what might live down there.

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>>17852473
>but there aren't any undiscovered deep sea trenches

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>>17852473
Well that settles it then.

>>17851462
holy molly

>>17851778
Kek silently

>>17852428
Sounds good

>>17851451
>What do you think lurks down there guys?

I'm a zoologist so for me all creatures have to belong to a known phylum or class.

I imagine some strange kinds of fish (including sharks) or molluscs (bigger than a giant squid) lurking deep below.

Perhaps a giant sea worm exists.

Squid are my favourite as they are intelligent and powerful creatures.

>>17854647
What do you think about the sustainability of giant creatures? They must have to eat tons.

>>17854656
Not him, but I think most giant sea creatures would probably live off microorganisms, the same way whales live off of krill.

The fact that we think deep sea monsters are huge fish or serpents with big scary teeth that want to eat us and our ships is movies and games' fault.

>>17854656
They are very sustainable. Proof of this is the giant squid.

Large deep sea creatures either migrate to shallower depths at night time to feed on the abundant food, or they simply eat very little and grow at a very slow rate, living for many decades, perhaps hundreds of years. Whale carcasses often sink to the bottom which could feed a large creature.

They could live in the depths, conserving energy, and then occasionally attack and feed on large sharks, squid or whales, in an ambush attack.

>>17854670
I'll just add, this is one of my favourite deep sea mysteries:


Great white was eaten by a SUPERSIZED deep sea shark
http://metro.co.uk/2014/06/26/ten-year-mystery-solved-great-white-was-eaten-by-a-supersized-deep-sea-shark-4777152/
http://sploid.gizmodo.com/mystery-solved-heres-the-animal-that-ate-the-9-foot-gr-1587429691

>>17854670
And whose to say there aren't giant, undiscovered herbivore/scavenger creatures roaming the deep ocean floors serving as food for the other giants down there.

Imagine a ridiculously oversized hermit crab for example.

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>>17851451
I wonder why we don't see more oceanic cave threads. To me, those are scarier and have more of a chance to harbor cryptids. Gravity in so much deep sea will flatten anything supremely giant in there or turn them into a blobby mess. Nothing other than colossal squids have been found that could hurt us, but underwater caves...

I remember an /x/ post about a bunch of Navy SEAL dudes going into such a cave then getting attacked by aquatic apes or some shit.

>>17854688
Could be giant crabs. Especially because crabs are scavengers. Maybe they grow to be monster sized, and remain dormant until a dead whale sinks near them every couple of decades, then they feed.

>>17854690
Another scary thing about water caves is the divers who go into them, get stuck and drown. There is a video of a guy trying to recover a body from a freshwater cave, and he panics and gets tangled up himself and drowns. The camera just keeps going. His body is perhaps still down there.

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>>17851451
>What do you think lurks down there guys?

NOTHING AT ALL GUYS SERIOUSLY

>>17854705
Link?

>>17854751
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF4iFJ-G74o

>>17852508
It wouldn't make sense for there to be anything remotely large on the ocean floor. Not enough food. Big body = Big caloric requirements.

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>>17854774
Maybe not on the actual floor, but the level where deep diving whales and giant squid hang out might still house some undiscovered giants.

A gigantic, slow-moving, low metabolism creature with a large mouth could potentially swim around down there scooping up everything from anglerfish to the various bioluminescent jellies swimming around down there. There is plenty of life in the deep my friend.

I mean we KNOW giant squid exist now, and they say there is always a bigger fish.

>>17851511
No it's not. If it was real the skull would be hollow and the jaw wouldn't be there

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>>17852378
>He happy because he thinks he's about to get a high five

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>>17852428
Im working on a video game at the moment and have been playing around with the idea of adding a spooky deep sea area, im just not sure how I want to implement it yet.

Any ideas /x/? Its a first person adventure/platforming/puzzle type of game. The deep sea area can be its own level with whatever style movement/mechanics.

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>>17854830
Here are the base ingredients to make a sea level spooky.

>dark abysses without visible bottoms
>giant sea creatures moving JUST within visible range (pic related)
>glowing eyes visible of otherwise hidden/obscured creatures
>good ambient sounds of whale song-like rumbling and roars

Remember to always keep in mind our fear of the unknown. Don't show too much, keep most of it in the dark. Just do enough to let the player know that he is not alone in the deep dark, and whatever is there with him is BIG.

>>17854830
do some research into giant isopods and giant sea scorpions. anything prehistoric scares the shit out of me, since insects during that time grew VERY big because of the high O2 concentration in earths atmosphere (due to how an exoskeleton works).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuCkVl7z3fw

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>>17851451
There are chemoautotrophic ecosystems around petroleum seeps and sulfur vents.

>>17854699
There is a yeti crab, pic related.

>>17852113
You're an allstar

>>17854850
>There is a yeti crab, pic related.

But was it THIC?

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>>17854842
Good idea about never really showing anything fully, or at least rarely. The visual style already has a sense of darkness to it, but in a pleasing way contrasted by glowing objects so it will be fun transitioning to full underwater darkness and changing the mood with ambient sound/audio changes.

>>17854845
>some of these millions of years old creatures are most likely still alive and waiting to eat us


Thanks for the ideas guys.

>>17854895
That looks good man.
Hope it goes well.

>>17854899
Thanks.
Me too lol

>>17854705
>His body is perhaps still down there
Nigga, they got the footage, hes not down there anymore.

Its actually a rather famouse case, and they did eventually recover both bodies, if my memory serves.

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>>17854895
That looks pretty neat anon.

Do you have anything of your planned deep sea level to show? Like concept art or anything?

>>17854912
Thanks.
No, I dont have any plans for the area. I wasnt sure about it, but its grown on me and i think im going to start brainstorming it out.

I honestly cant draw well so I often just make all the models abstractly and play around until things look right. My "concept art" is really laughable, its just more of a starting point for the 3d work.
That pic looks fucking neato, i think ill do a part similar to that.

it's sad that some people still think that megalodon is still alive.

>>17854670
Vertical migration

>>17851451

Do you really believe that there is anything large? Mass = more energy to move and fuel cells.

More energy needed = higher caloric needs.

Deep ocean = less sunlight = less life = less calories

Everything in the deep is going to be small.

>inb4 hurr durr my giant squids

They don't live 36,000 feet beneath sea level. Try about 3,000.

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>>17855018
>be giant squid
>swimming 3000 ft underwater
>eaten by a giant kraken we are unaware of
>kraken gets eaten by godzilla deep sea croctopus
>????
>chtulu eats ????

Seems like a perfectly sound food chain to me senpai.

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>>17855032
>Charybdis eats Cthulhu
>!!!!!! eats Charybdis
>***** eats !!!!!!

Can we keep going?

>>17855055
>Your mom eats *****

It ends there, at the largest known prehistoric whale creature.

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>>17855093
Oh you.

>>17854830
Darkness is a must. Perhaps navigate inside of a submarine. Going too deep causes leaks/ can lead to the sub imploding. Perhaps have it so. The sub just about to collapse rightbefore you dock at the underwater station or somthing. The most terrifying thing about the deep arent the sea monsters.. its the water pressure.

>>17855018
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep-sea_gigantism

Kill yourself.

>>17852428
I wish you could go deeper in that game. I reached the abyssal drop off, and went all the way to the bottom, but there's nothing after the drop off, no abyssal plain, no spookily creatures, the map just ends.

>>17852473
We know very basic topography and have photos and videos of a very ridiculously small percent of the abyssal plain and below. As far as detailed geography and possible fauna capable of surviving the extreme pressure, we can't say with any certainty what we might have missed so far.

>>17855313
got em. got em good

threads like these are why i dont swim anymore

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>>17851511
>tfw when you realize you have a skeleton inside you too
>2spooky4me

>>17851569
>>17851508
>>17851904
Check this if you're into vidya
http://undertowgames.com/barotrauma/
Pretty fun too, if you can find a group that is not retarded to play with.

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>>17851512

>>17855479
He was so sure of himself too.

Does anyone has the name of a trilogy of sci fi novels about human developments in deep sea? I remember some anon recomended it in a post similar to this one and other anons corroborated it was a must read for the spooks. If remember correctly they were available online in the authors page.

>>17854830
I saw a post on here in depth about a concept for a deep sea game in which the player is working in a deep sea station and all sorts of randomized occurrences could happen, and it was meant for multiple playthroughs to unlock scenarios, equipment, etc

forgot what it was called tho, I'm sure some /x/file has to have it saved...

>>17855722
Did you read The Swarm?
Its not fully creepy, but has you wondering what's in the Abyss and for a long time the people in the book have no fucking clue what the hell they are up against

>>17855722
I haven't but i'll dive into it as soon as I can, sounds like a good ol' thriller.

>>17855732
It was called Pressure

>>17854690

Wtf... why does the Facehugger in the back have an eye stalk? Makes it look retarded.

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>>17851515

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>>17855732
Got you covered, lady

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>>17855093

Savage

>>17851920
Just look up. It's about the same to space.

>>17856061

No it's not

>>17855771
>>17855906
That never came out, did it?

>>17851511

>*record scratch*
>''Well you probably wondering how I got into this mess''

>>17856126
No, because it isn't real. It isn't even /x/, it's /v/.

http://vsrecommendedgames.wikia.com/wiki/Games_/v/_dreams_about

Try FarSky if you're looking for games.

>>17854690
wasn't navy seals, it was the sas off the coast of scotland. has anyone got a screencap of it?

>>17852253
is it on netflix?

>>17854830
Play SOMA, copy atmosphere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpZb9dzRfWs

>>17852253
Love the movie to death but the book is even better.

>>17851462
How have they even mapped %10 of the ocean? also who knows about tunnels and other weird shit down there.

I think our first mistake is assuming life in the abyss would resemble anything we currently understand, let alone behave the same metabolically or biologically. I suppose logical assumptions can be made, and I have little to refute those arguments that would be made against me, though I'm in no way put off from my curiosities because I lack evidence. The mysteries of the deep will serve to fascinate generations to come and inspire them to explore their imaginations long into their adult lives. Nigger.

>>17851484
how long is a flagpole?

>>17856844
flagpole length

>>17851494
That thing looks really stupid tbqh. Like that face is just ridiculous.

>>17855732
>>17855771
>>17855906
Literally just linked it.
>>17855581

Is there any way the ocean could completely dry up?

>>17856448
Soma was pretty fun but it got old after about halfway through and i quit playing it.
Almost everything nowadays is so cliche and I cant get into any game that takes itself too seriously. The best part of soma was the philosophical aspects. The environment is neat but I dont think there was ever a moment where I felt scared when you explore outside the underwater labs.

Im trying to avoid all the cliche things like underwater bases, "avoid the scary monster by running away" repeat, submarines etc.

I think im going to make it feel more like its a mix between being underwater in darkness but having the environment change around you into an outer space sort of style for a disembodied feeling.

>>17856989
If the atmosphere went away, then yes; among many other things, the oceans, rivers, lakes, etc. would all boil. But really we'd be so many layers of fucked and dead that all the water on the planet's surface boiling away would be the least of our problems.

>>17856989
pretty much anything that would drastically increase the average temperature

for example a huge meteor

>>17856989
Yes, it happened on Vensu

>>17857011
...or getting blasted from the gamma ray burst of a quasar.

>>17857029
Or a nearby star

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>>17857036
...or the sun turning red giant
...or something fucking with our axial tilt/ rotation /orbit
...or losing our magnetic field
...

there are real cosmic horrors out there, even if they are very unlikely

>>17857053
If the sun were red the moon would be pink

>>17857053
What's with the little red square in the middle of the Atlantic?

Also pole shift, ocean acidification, or failure of tidal pull or trade winds.

>>17854684

Sounds like they think it was just a bigger great white. Not even an abnormally large one

>>17857065
Thank you for your input.

>>17857079
They literally said it was much bigger than a normal shark.

>>17857187

they literally said a 16 foot great white could have done it

>>17851628
This is an amazing movie, ending is terrific. Great for deep sea stuff

>>17857003
>Soma was pretty fun but it got old after about halfway through and i quit playing it.
So you missed the underwater part, which is one of the best parts in spooky gaming in years. [spoiler]You go to the bottom of the sea and wander there on your own, yes, there are things swimming around you, also yes, some are fucking massive, as in OP pic massive.[/spoiler]

>>17857871
Well fugg.
Now I feel like I should finish it. It just became so repetitive with the running and hiding from the monsters while trying to do some menial tasks activating stuff.
The gameplay kind of ruined the atmosphere for me.

>>17857838

The ending is retarded.

> oooh throw a sea-monster in because ayyliums and we don't know how to end our movie

What kind of locked-under-ice animal has evolved to hunt fleshy mammals on the dead frozen surface? Makes no sense.

>>17858004
looked like a deep sea creature with tentacles to me

>>17851512
Aquatic creature
Breasts

Pick one

>>17854688
Immediately thought of far harbor.

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>>17858390

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>>17858135
I laughed heres' your (You)

There was actually a great thread I can remember on /tg/ where a deep-sea biologist or somesuch actually gave a rundown of the layers of the deep ocean and all the fucking weird shit that lives down there.

My main takeaway. Part of it is just 'The Midnight Zone,' divided into upper and lower sections. And for some reason I just love the idea that 'The Lower Midnight Zone' is a real place that scientists talk about.

>>17855897
its supposed to be a shrimp Sherlock

>>17854842
Oh fuck I literally stared at that for 30 seconds thinking it was moving closer.

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>>17858390
>9000 hours in ms paint with a shitty mousepad

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I believe in giant clams. Like the size of a house.

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>>17858514

>>17851451

>What do you think lurks down there guys?

Potentially, the largest organism ever. Not like a vertebrate, though. More like some massive, sprawling blob of chemosynthetic threads, all around deep-sea vents. It could potentially feed on other deep-sea creatures as a secondary source of nutrients (maybe it has tendrils with glowing lights that attract the fish, which then get caught up by it, pulled into the mass, and then slowly digested), but it won't be able to actually move anywhere and won't even need a brain.

>>17854895
Hey game dev anon. Here's an idea for a level hazard for ya.
>>17858528

>>17858536
Subnautica devs actually have a concept about an entire biome like that, where the creature reacts to light violently.

>>17858528
So basically a colossal, rooted jellyfish?

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done.

>>17858513
>>17858390
Oh fuck I'm laughing

>>17852428
Can you die in that game? Because I'm only interested if death is a legit possibility. If you're in no danger then the deep sea spook factor would wear out quickly, I'd imagine.

>>17858648
We are all going to die, OP. how does this not makes you sad?

>>17858648
There are agressive creatures that can attack and kill you. Giant sea monsters instakill you most of the time.

If you die you respawn in your base but lose all the resources you gathered after leaving your base, permanently.

>>17858668
Ah, that sounds good.

>>17858649
I'm not actually OP, but I am thinking of getting the game.

>>17858648
yes and there is a gamemode where you only have one life,

>>17854647
Cephalopod master race

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>>17858513
oh shit thats actually kinda good

>>17858618
did the dude get pulled down with the whale?

>>17851511
>atlantis master race confirmed

>>17854830
Look at the SOMA video game my friend. Fucking terrifying deep sea trenches bit especially.

>>17856610
>Nigger.
stay golden 4chan

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>>17858715
Thanks man.

>drawfag stuck without my tablet
>mfw trying to draw with the awful laptop mousepad

>>17858767
I smell newfag. That's common 4chan vernacular, though granted only morons use it excessively outside /b/ and /pol/

>>17858787
I meant the fact that it was a grand and meaningful speech, and then you just see 'Nigger.'

>>17858594

Effectively, yes. Many think that more complex = more efficient, but the truth is the jellyfish is one of the oldest organisms on our planet. They survive despite being so simple.

anyone got good deep sea horrors stories?

already read the confessions of a deep sea divers1-3

>>17851569
>>17851562
>>17851508

Come to think of it, have they sent any probes or shit like the mars rover to that place yet?
I'd figure people would want to check shit like that out due to the water.

We already sent a probe one to pluto last year (?)
Is there a problem due to not having the right tech yet? Or gravitational shit?

>>17856989
>>17857053
What kind of life do you think would be possible on a mostly-dried-up earth?
Would it even be possible?

>>17859782
NASA is planning on sending a probe there in the 2020's. Still on the drawing board.

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/missions/europa-mission/

>>17859864
Life as we know and recognize it MUST have water to survive/evolve.

If its possible for life to develop without water, it would be in a form we humans would fail to recognize as a living creature.

>>17859864
if by mostly you mean nearly no water at all, only plants and unicelular life could exist (going by our understanding of how life came to be)

[spoiler]But who knows[/spoiler]

>>17855093
WEW
E
W

>>17859895
>>17859887
But what if earth were to dry up and become like that, meaning life already developed?

Do you think lifeforms could slowly adapt to such things (beside humans who use tech?)

>>17859919
https://youtu.be/joR4OL_mQnE

>>17859919
Any of the things that would cause the oceans to dry up would kill us and every other complex lifeform on the planet right quick. We'd all be dead before the water even finished evaporating. And, if this were to happen before we colonize any other planets, anyone in space would be doomed since there would be no one left on Earth to send them supplies. Hell, the Earth wouldn't even be habitable by humans. Of course, there's also the fact that most of the things that could do it would also kill the shit out of anything on the moon, in orbit, or - hell - on the surrounding planets.

>>17859947

You are absolutely right of course, but simply as a thought experiment: What if 99.9% of earth's water vanished without any other harmful effects taking place?

>>17859947
What if the water disappeared through non-(cosmic)natural means?

Like ayys stealing or humans taking it with them to whereever

>>17851501

What are these underwater pools/rivers called?

>>17859977
Scary shit.

>>17859961
>>17859972
That is a very interesting thought. I'd still not be able to imagine anything more complex than single-celled organisms living long enough to adapt, however.

Here's an article on that very subject: http://science.howstuffworks.com/science-vs-myth/what-if/what-if-oceans-disappeared.htm

>>17859972
>>17859961
>>17860036
Kind of depends, do they take all the ocean's salt with them?

Thanks for the link btw

>tfw Minecraft will never have realistic water physics so a breach in your underground stronghold would threaten to flood the whole base
>tfw you would never look through the glass walls of a connecting tunnel and see a huge, dark shape loom over you
>tfw will never be walking through the metal access shaft and hear scraping, groaning noises as a monster tests the strength of the walls on the other side

I'd fucking love a game with the depth of modded Minecraft with base building on the abyssal plane.

>>17860619
If the base was totally underwater, a breach anywhere could flood the whole thing. That's real water physics.

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>>17859977
It's called a brine pool

>>17854830
Need any beta testers who can offer an artistic perspective on certain elements?

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>>17851484
This is a huge exaggeration. This Specimen was about 4 - 5 meters long total. Giant squid do not get that big, their bodies are just over 2 meters long and their tentacles can be 3 times that. Almost all evidence points to them being slow and weak as well.

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>>17854670
This is incorrect.

The Giant squid is not as large as it is made out to be, its stomach is tiny and its esophagus is only 1 cm wide with very little stretching capability since it runs directly through its brain. It eats very little, and it uses very little energy to hunt, compared to animals from shallow waters it's incredibly weak too.

"Large deep sea creatures", "Living for many decades" No. Below the mesopelagic zone there's very little in the way of large creatures, let alone predators. The largest deep water predators are Sleeper sharks, which bottom out at 2000m and spend most of their time in shallower water anyway. The majority of life at extreme depth is centered around hydrothermal vents, getting nutrients exclusively from chemotrphic bacteria. Sorry to burst your bubble there.

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>>17854784
We've known Giant squid exist for centuries, the fucking useless things wouldnt stop washing up on shore, we just hadn't seen a live one till 2005 because they spend most of their time below 800m, which is difficult to film in anyway, let alone trying to find a single animal to film down there. I think you mistake the geography of the deep ocean. Because most fish stop appearing below the middle of the bathypelagic. And anything wishing to filter feed would need to be in the mesopelagic, and would have certainly been noticed by now. For reference by the way the average baleen whale has to eat around 900-4000 KG of Kryll/small fish PER DAY. That kind of biomass doesn't exist in the deep ocean.

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>>17855313
>Links wikipedia link he obviously hasn't read
>Sure showed him.

Deep Sea Gigantism effects only invertebrates, and so far the only things of significance are slightly larger cephalopod species than average, that also come with downsides. Mainly life at depth reduces almost all muscle tissue to jelly, because to deal with that pressure tissues have to regulate to be closer to the density of water. They also have a very low metabolic rate and are as such lethargic ambush predators. Which, P.S don't even get THAT large on average.

>>17859864
potentially in a tatooine style way where everything is either grown from well water or moisture condensers.

>>17861186
It's an archetypal grin. You probably first came to be familiar with it through The Grinch.

My DICK

>>17861186
>>17861251
Looks like Oogie-Boogie

>>17851451
Fucking nothing because the pressure is so fucking intense that nothing but the most benign creatures could exist. So little energy reaches that depth that it can hardly even sustain the few small organisms that live there. Nothing bigger than a cow could exist. Even that's stretching it. The pressure at 36,000ft is 2.2 million pounds per square foot.

>>17851462
I hate this "only 10% of the ocean has been mapped" myth. Exxon, Chevron, BP, the and all the navies of all the major countries in the world have had full oceanographic mappings of the oceans for decades.

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>She is noteworthy as a U.S. Navy vessel that has apparently been attacked by an unknown species of giant squid. In 1978, the "NOFOUL" rubber coating of her AN/SQS-26 sonar dome was damaged by multiple cuts over 8 percent of the dome surface. Nearly all of the cuts contained remnants of sharp, curved claws found on the rims of suction cups of some squid tentacles. The claws were much larger than those of any squid that had been discovered at that time.[3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Stein_(FF-1065)

>>17851515
That's a really big turk

>>17861104
The giant squid is a baby compared to the colossal squid.

>>17860619
Isn't there a minecraft mod to make water flow and equalization more realistic? I think I saw something like that years ago when I was still playing it.

>>17860918
Not if you had floodgates.

Alright guys. SOMA or Subnautica for maximum spook?

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>>17861104

>>17861969
It's funnier if we could read the text fyi

>>17861974
I know, but I only have ms paint to work with here, sorry.

>>17861420
That's a jellyfish.

>>17861146
>Faggot makes elaborate retarded post about deep sea things having to be small
>I show him that is not true
Kill yourself

>>17861952
Kinda apples and oranges.

SOMA is more of a story-based, narrative RPG style game where most of the horror is largely existential (and thereby cerebral) in nature, but which (in my very humble opinion) does a good job of creating an oppressive atmosphere during its admittedly few openly deep-ocean segments. Most of the genuine horror, though, is less from the setting itself, and more from the questions it raises about the nature of self.

Subnautica, by contrast, isn't a horror game - its more of an exploration/survival game with some light minecaft-style resource gathering and base-building elements. However, the ENTIRE setting is the ocean, so as you explore deeper, the deep ocean (and the aggressive, alien creatures that live down there) become more of the focus. Though I'm not nearly as familiar with it as I am SOMA, so anyone who is feel free to correct me.

TL;DR: SOMA is a horror game that happens to feature the ocean, Subnautica is an ocean game that happens to feature some horror.

>>17851495
This would be fucking terrifying. Cloudy water is bad enough, but it'd be like if sharks could fly down there. Only land if you catch some murder fish you got land on your side. Underwater it is like running from a bird.

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>>17861969
kek'd hard

10/10 anon

>>17854895
Is this a screenshot from your game? If not what is it from?

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>>17862024
>Faggot links a wikipedia article consisting of a paragraph that he hasn't read

>Is still trying to argue for it.

>>17860954
Not at the moment, ive been working towards making a trailer for Steam Greenlight, it will be a while before its done. Maybe first part of next year.

You can see lots more on the Twitter I made for it and offer up any advice on what you see and hear if you want. You can get to it regardless of if you have a Twitter account or not, just google "@harmlessmonkii"

>>17862338
Yeah its mine, ive been working on it for about 6-7 months now from learning to use all the tools, focusing on marketing/advertisement on social media and making progress slowly but surely.

>>17861629

That's a pretty fucking good impression of Jon Snow.

>>17863761

What the fuck is this from?

>>17863761
Why would you, that is terrifying

>>17863761
>>17863810

WHAT
IS
THIS
FROOOOM

>>17863810
>>17863865

A game in development called Diluvion.

>>17858791
Good point. Nigger.

>>17861663
Prove it

>>17852428
>playing games from antigun liberal feelsbags

>>17864116
What? Do you want them to be good for something else instead?

>>17852473
This is some stupid shit to say. I doubt you could find a legit oceanographer saying that.
1. The sea floor is always changing due to tectonic plates shifting - trenches of certain sizes may come and go over so many years
2. There could be very deep but not very wiDE trenches all across the ocean that no one has found because we don't care that much about the bottom of the ocean
3. They don't really have Alvin subs searching the floor 24/7 and really isn't explored in that great of detail (most research done by sonar-not precise)
4. You're a fucking moron go back to school

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https://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/the-look-of-a-young-mars-2

What do you think life looked like on young Mars?

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>>17861952
I thoroughly enjoyed SOMA. The whole game is pretty damn spooky and they do a great job of making the "I'm thousands of feet beneath the ocean" theme really feel distressing.

The best part is going down to the abyssal plain where you can barely see 10 feet in front of you because the darkness is so thick, and the spoopies are out in full force.

>mfw when this track plays in the abyss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeaX8h-bAzE&list=PLX0oENAz5AeI9d2fjDzh1WNs11unFMBku&index=6

>>17861941
That's not true, collossal squid is only slightly bigger overall.

>>17859977
Goo lagoon

>>17856160
Is...is this a deadpool reference?

>>17854699
This seems pretty viable, kinda like those big ass catfish

>>17854793
>real skull would be hollow

There's bone in the back of your eyes dumbo

>>17854830
You should put giant 500 foot humanoid creatures that walk across the trench floor

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>>17856160

>>17861127
>And anything wishing to filter feed would need to be in the mesopelagic

Interesting fact, do you have a source for it?

>>17854684
We're going to need a bigger boat.

>affects only invertebrates
You might want to read the article yourself, instead of picking and choosing what you want out of it to suit your needs.
I'm assuming you're a member of the Catholic church?

>In zoology, deep-sea gigantism, also >known as abyssal gigantism, is the >tendency for species of invertebrates >and other deep-sea dwelling animals to >display a larger size than their >shallower-water relatives. Examples of >this phenomenon include the giant >isopod, the giant amphipod, the >Japanese spider crab, the king of >herrings (an oarfish of up to 12 m), the >deepwater stingray, the seven-arm >octopus, and a number of squid >species: the colossal squid (up to 14 m >in length), the giant squid (up to 13 m), >Onykia robusta, Taningia danae, >Galiteuthis phyllura, Kondakovia >longimana, and bigfin squids. Some >other very large fish found in the deep >ocean, such as the Greenland shark and >the Pacific sleeper shark, would not >normally be considered examples >because they sometimes visit the >surface and are not larger than >comparable species that spend more >time in shallower water, such as the >great white shark.

>>17851494
I know Godzilla's down there, selflessly protecting humanity, because King Ghidorah hasn't been able to kill us all. Hail to the King of the Monsters!

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>>17865431
Actually I'm a Marine Biology Masters student who spent a semester studying extreme marine habitats. Lemme just help you out here. The oarfish undertakes diel migrations and don't exist deeper than the mesopelagic zone, they're just rarely seen in the shallows because they migrate at night. Therefore they cannot be considered to be affected by it. The sleeper shark likewise cannot be considered to be affected by it, and the deepwater stingray is also another species that ranges between the epipelagic and the mesopelagic and not below 700 meters at its absolute lowest, not to mention its size isn't significantly larger than other stingray species. Considering the Giant freshwater stingray is much much larger it's feasible that it's just a large species of stingray.

All of the other species named there are invertebrates, and they're the only species that show a significant increase in size from the average of other members of the species, for example the deep sea isopod and the various species of cephalopods you fucking ingrate.

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>>17865244
I can link a few papers if you'd like, but the basic gist is that the mesopelagic and the bathypelagic take up 75% of inhabitable space in the ocean. The mesopelagic (200-1000m) still receives light and has relatively manageable levels of dissolved oxygen and nutrients, pressures here are also not as crushing meaning that fish species that live there are able to do so without being hugely adapted, the conditions allow for greater numbers and around 65% of deep sea fish biomass is accounted for by mesopelagic lantern fish, bristlemouths account for a lot as well.

However, deeper than 1000m, in the Bathypelagic zone, its uniformly oligotrophic, dissolved oxygen is incredibly low and to combat the pressures, fish tissues are incredibly watery, almost reduced to jelly making them weak and necessitating a sedentary lifestyle. All fish species that live in the abyssopelagic are miniature, most no longer than 25 cm long and the reason they are almost all uniformly adapted to have large mouths, and distending stomachs is because prey is so scarce and difficult to come across that they ensure they can eat whatever prey they find, big or small. Another indicator that the Abyssopelagic is too sparsely populated to host a filter feeding animal is that almost every single species down there has a specialized way of reproducing, because finding a mate is so unlikely.

As I mentioned in an earlier post, a filter feeder needs between 900-4000kg of small fish per day to sustain itself. That kind of fish weight is feasible in the mesopelagic zone because it's quite densely populated. But deeper than that it wouldn't be able to survive.

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>>17858513

>>17866171
Why did you repost my drawing?

>>17851511

Hey now, you're an all star.

>>17861420
looks like polygon is controlling the camera

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>>17858517
Nigga that's Tommy from Rugrats

>>17862004
its still creepy

>>17862004
This is a post on an imageboard

>>17854895
I see you on /v/, good progress

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>>17852473

>>17851506
Holy shit, Ripjaw from Ben 10!

>>17862004
It's a bigfin squid.

>>17854735
>>17854735
lol

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>>17861882

>>17851512
>you'll never tit fuck a mermaid

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>>17854735
>>17866451
>>17861882
>>17866478

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>>17861882

>>17866060
>studied books on the topic for a semester
>thinks his word is worth shit

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>>17866609
Feel free to refute me with academic evidence.

I'll wait.

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>>17866689
refute your irrefutable expertise? oh no Master, how could I

>>17852514
Satellites.

>>17854656
Good thing there's tons to eat.
There's so much stuff living and dying in the upper levels of the ocean that the water column is host to a continuous downfall of what's dubbed "marine snow."
Think a 24/7 blizzard of corpse particles and waste blanketing the seafloor for miles. That's a lot of kilocalories, son.

Granted, it's pretty much all accounted for by models based on known benthic communities, but you never know what might be preying on *them*.

>>17855619
man that new Warframe looks great

I hope they find cthulhu soon...

>>17854859
get your game on

>>17865453
King Ghidorah is a space monster, dummy.

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>>17866382
Please post Ken set

>>17855619
My first thought too

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>>17866711
Clearly you can't. Otherwise you would.

>>17866821
First mentioning a whole semester and now anime smug face. Your argumentation skills are off the hook

>>17854690
Pressure, not gravity.

>>17866834

Not the same guy, but are you actually going to refute him, then?

Anyone know any authors like H. P. Lovecraft?

>>17868054
I hear H.P Lovecraft fits in that category

>>17851451
leviathan

>>17861663
kek, what are you even talking about

>>17854756
;_;7

>>17864116
eh, while i do not support those views, i can still enjoy the game.

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>>17855018
Thermal vents and such pick up the slack anon, its almost like you dont know shit but decided to run off at the mouth anyway.

>>17861663
They only know the surface and like a few km deep into it, nobody knows what's in the deeps

>>17867298
Refuting that deep sea gigantism only affects invertebrates?
I leave that to real marine biologists that have already done that

>>17866184
Made it brighter/easier to see

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Anyone got the Apollo AA35 pics of the huge Julia shadow?

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>>17866076
Thank you for responding to my question. It sounds like freshwater ecologists and marine biologists are using different definitions for the term "filter feeder". You seem quite knowledgeable and I would enjoy reading any papers you link; as I biophysicist I find the traits of deep sea creatures to be quite remarkable.

>fish tissues are incredibly watery, almost reduced to jelly

I understand what you mean but it does not make sense strictly in terms of chemistry. It suffices to say that fish tissues below 1000m are hydrogels, but I predict that they would be more salty than watery. If you want to study that molecular biology, you might find an application in nanobiotechnology as applied to work such as this-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3TqCrLUgC0

I hypothesize that there is at least one novel protein which would significantly improve the shear strength of hydrogel electronics.

Lastly, I can point out one flaw in the consensus opinion as a matter of classical physics.

>dissolved oxygen is incredibly low and to combat the pressures

These assumptions break down in the space above gas seeps. The rising gas negates some of the water pressure and reductive chemical reactions with carbon and sulfur liberate oxygen from mineral sources.

As a fellow scientist who contributes to X, I kindly appreciate your presence here.

>>17854656
i think giant squid go after sperm whales for food

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>>17869545
What I meant by jelly was that their body tissues have a much higher water content than fish from shallower water, the giant squid shares the same properties. It's a trait that evolved so that these animals can withstand the intense pressure, and it's why they become "jelly like" when taken out of their environment. I'm not sure entirely about the chemistry of it, but I can assure you that their tissues are exceedingly watery.

Gas seeps are quite interesting, but they are unfortunately, temporary oases in the depths. The communities they support only exist as long as methane/hydrogen sulfide keeps flowing. Their influence doesn't exceed past a small area around the seep or vent. It's quite clear when looking at the distribution of animals around them. In addition to this the high amount of bacterial activity found around here, both free living and fixed in the tissues of the benthos use enormous amounts of oxygen.

It's refreshing to see someone else here who respects empiricism

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>>17869380
If they've already done that, what's the issue with finding papers to prove it? Or an article? Or literally anything that makes your word better than his.

>>17862325

W-what? I didnt understand any of this...

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>>17869796
Disproving the baseless assertion that the giant oarfish isnt affected by deep-sea gigantism, while there are lots of articles by marine biologists listing it as an example?

Disproving that DSG only affects invertebrates while there are already counter examples, nobody understands that phenomenon fully yet and we dont have a full overview on marine fauna?

Or maybe I dont engage in a serious debate with someone who is making bold claims on a Haitian Tupperware forum without citing papers himself.

I kind of feel like a pedantic dick putting it like this, therefor I included a webm of cute animal buddies to cheer us up.

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>>17869788
>What I meant by jelly was that their body tissues have a much higher water content than fish from shallower water.

This is an interesting fact because it provokes the chemical lexicon. I found a paper to support it- Jacoby CA, Youngbluth MJ, Frost JR, Flood PR and others (2009) Vertical distribution, behavior, chemical composition and metabolism of Stauroteuthis syrtensis (Octopoda: Cirrata) in the northwest Atlantic. Aquat Biol 5:13-22

It turns out that tissues are composed of extremely saline water. Indeed, the hydrogen content of benthic octopoda is so low that it does not make sense to refer to organismal oxygen as 'water'. I would rather call it 'alkali'.

>Gas seeps are... temporary oases in the depths.

I think that 'dynamic' would be a better descriptor than 'temporary', because the geographic position of a vent may change, but the geological location is static. Autotrophs in those ecosystems most likely die off as each vent closes, but I predict that carnivores would hazard an attempt at migration. Those fish should be able to propel themselves faster as the vent or seep solidifies; and you can find more information from this citation: Quinn, D. B., Lauder, G. V., & Smits, A. J. (2014). Flexible propulsors in ground effect. Bioinspiration & biomimetics, 9(3), 036008.

The ecological drive which is the trophy of the deeps is pursuit of hydrogen, which is apparently even more scarce than oxygen. We can imagine the largest deep sea creature as an amorphous cnidarian which constantly scouts the darkest depths, slinking for its next meal. I conclude that a pattern of Lévy flights would characterizes the movement of such a predator, and I cite- Hays, G. C., Bastian, T., Doyle, T. K., Fossette, S., Gleiss, A. C., Gravenor, M. B., ... & Sims, D. W. (2011). High activity and Lévy searches: jellyfish can search the water column like fish. Proceedings of the Royal Society of London B: Biological Sciences, rspb20110978.

>>17869950
How can they list the oarfish as affected by DSG when they themselves claim they barely understand DSG? It would be like saying the sperm whale is affected by DSG. Its just a big animal.

>>17870374
No it wouldnt.
Although one could argue that whales have very similar evolutionary advantages from being big and their shallow water small relatives are their land living ancestors. But that would really be a stretch and misses the point

>>17869380

Go on, then. Refute it. The other guy has already established a fairly good case that invertebrates would be the only ones capable of surviving in the depths of the ocean at larger sizes. If it's already been refuted, provide the proof.

>>17861882
for you

>>17870992
see
>>17869950

>>17866211
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

>>17856160
Holy kek
Heavily underated post

>>17871290
eks dee is so le lol swag trolol eks dee dee dee dee

>>17851562
check out the movie Europa Report (unless youre referencing it already)

>>17858618
scariest webm to date

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>>17871366
I have only seen the first like 10 minutes of it. Looked interesting but didn't have the time at that moment.

Is it good? Does it have alien deep sea spooks?

>>17871609
It is more about long term space travel and the how the crew handles it. You get nice Europa shots but dont watch it solely for deep sea stuff.

For a low budget found footage/mochumentary movie it is good. Solid hard sci-fi, too

>>17861078
The video of one attacking a baited thing doesn't look like it was slow. Though the footage of it eating and leaving seems to show it being sluggish which would make sense.

>>17868054
If you are looking for books for stuff related to this, i highly recommend reading the deep by nick cutter. I picked up the name from a similar thread, bought the book and it didint let me down. I dont want to spoil anything, but the scenario is a science station in challengers deep in a dystopic world. The book is pretty much about how men slowly lose their sanity due to closed spaces, extreme pressure, darkness and being alone. Dont worry, there is something lurking beneath the surface in the book.

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>>17858390
Jesus Christ man that's scary!!!

>>17851511
spoopy

>>17854895
Have a release date or a title for the game? I'd like to check it out when you're done, I see potential

>>17866382

a post about sea spooks on /x/ makes me laugh harder than any ylyl thread on /b/

>>17864698

That's gorgeous

>>17857003
cliche is not bad if you do it right. but nobody ever fucking does it right.

>>17856448
oh MAN I loved that game, SOMA was the shit.

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Fish can keep the ocean desu

>>17872432
>it has developed a second pair of upwards facing eyes inside its transparent skull to detect predators coming from above

You can't even make this shit up. Fucking nature.

>>17858390
Delete this

>>17854663
Actually, this trend started with medieval maps.

>>17854663
It could also be big monsters eating other big monsters, like with sperm whales and giant squid

>>17855504
Yeah I used to not be afraid of ocean/lakewater

This fucking board man.

>>17851515
Mexico?

>>17855432
There's a creative mode and you can reach 13,000 m untill you randomely die. It's just empty and dark. (spent fucking 35 minutes to do this)

>>17872778
>>17872793
DAMN NATURE YOU SCARY

>>17856844
as long as one of those tentacles
keep up

>>17872733
kek

>>17872778
How ugly can you be?

>>17872838
>How ugly can you be?

like you

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>>17856877

>>17872793
>>17872778
>>17872432
>>17869788
>>17861420
>>17861127
>>17851484
look at all this
real nature is way spookier than any drawing, because no matter what you see drawn, there is never 100% certainty that it's real, but a photo? Makes me barely want to get in a kiddy pool

>>17851511
Everyone is too stupid to mention that the hat would have drifted off the skull.

And this is why you would all fail at photoshop. GG, you idiots. /x/ is truly the right place for you.

>>17866750
top nek

>>17866717
Ice covers a lot of the water

>>17872558
You're right. I guess spooked fisherman's storiesand tall tales are to blame.

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>>17872851
Very nice.

This shit doesn't belong on /x/

>>17874390
yeah, too spooky for /x/

>>17861663
reeeeeeeetaaaaaaaaaaaaaard

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>>17874587

http://gizmodo.com/heres-the-most-complete-ocean-floor-map-ever-made-1750109568

we are indeed better than 10%

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>>17874601
Like mentioned previously in the thread: We know the topographical structure of the seafloor, but we have barely physically explored any of it, even with unmanned ROVs or sonar.

There are still A LOT of unvisited areas where we can only theorize what actually lives down there, if in fact there is complex life at the very deepest depths.

See pic related. A recently discovered deep sea fish that produces red bioluminescense instead of the common green and blue.

New shit is being found all the time so the dismissive attitude of a lot of people ITT is plain naive and ignorant.

>>17874655
I agree.
Didnt want to imply that we know everything about the deep sea. While we mapped a lot, that doesnt mean that gives us much knowledge about the ecosystems down there.
Expressing the mapping in percentage is misleading anyway.
To my knowledge almost every deep sea expedition discovers at least one new (sub)species and your example even shows that we even discover completely unsees features.

>>17852428
should i buy it on steam or should i just pirate it ?

>>17875143
well, it is just 12 bucks and pretty good. but pirating is of course more convenient

>>17875180
is there any features that i would be missing if i pirate it

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>>17875143
Buy it and support the devs because they've been updating it monthly.

Its a great/fucking terrifying deep sea exploration game and it just keeps getting more shit to discover.

I'm all for pirating but this is one of the very few cases where I'd actually go out of my way to tell other people to pay for it.

>>17875209
a conscience