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Dos /x/ ever realize certain movies are "occult" even

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Dos /x/ ever realize certain movies are "occult" even if you can't always put your finger on it.

Let's list some
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This is OP here is another one
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all films are occult
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>>17692558
I think... I think I know what you mean.

The Alice in Wonderland movie seems most "offputting" when they're in the real world, like pic related.

I can't fucking explain it, its something about the colors and the eyes
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>>17692558
>written about the obsurdities of new math at the time
>written by convservative anti-drug, anti-occult writer
>s-so trippy and o-occult!
Every time
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>>17692558
>I can't put my finger on what's occult about Lewis Carrol
Nerd did hardcore hallucinogenic drugs to get all up in little girls' mental minds
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The Chronicle of Narnia
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this desu senpai
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>>17692558
Alice in wonderland is part of a very crude revolting story. It was created to get in the thoughts of a certain real woman that was created after the show. Like a premeditated rape story.
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>>17692667
This in perfect sync with Dark Side of the Moon is so creepy
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>>17692704
Uh, excuse?

Alice in Wonderland was Lewis Carrols attempt to bring his feelings of drug culture and his not so latent pedophilia to the surface, and deal with them in a narrative form.

pic related: Alice Liddell, as photographed by Lewis Carrol. Inspiration for the character of Alice in the Wonderland books, and number one earthly desire of Carrol.
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Watching the original Disney Snow White right now. Zodiac around the magic mirror. Serpent, Sun, and peacock on the queens throne. Heart with sword through it like the Tarot card for Snow Whites heart.
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obvious one...
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and this
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The Holy Mountain and "El Topo" by Jodorowsky?
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come on this a cool thread
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>>17692739
My god, fucking pedo
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>>17696358
go home to mommy white knight
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>>17692572
This movie is a metaphor for WWII.
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>>17696358
Someone (me) should tell you that he's claiming to know a lot more than is actually supported by facts. There's little support for Dodgson being a pedo or into drugs.
He may have proposed to Alice Liddell when she was around sixteen, which was a totally appropriate age. He certain didn't fuck her. Ever. At any age. He was probably never alone in the same room with her for more than five minutes (it was Victorian England, people weren't physically alone much).
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>>17694595
That's the most brutal crucifixion I've ever seen. Imagining it is chilling.
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>>17696419
Take heart anon most millennials couldn't conceive Victorian times . I hear and understand you chum
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>>17692590
Hard to say something seems "off" when they're in the "real world" when the whole thing is a drawn animation and literally not based on reality in the first place kek
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>>17696471
Fucking dork.
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>>17692659
The Chronicles of Narnia are LITERALLY allegories for Christianity.
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>>17697224
Few Christian theologians take him seriously anymore. In fact, some say his views are all kinds of wrong and have pagan roots.
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>>17697241
didnt know that, i can understand that, he does hae some odd interpretations. but i think at the time his views were valid enough.
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>>17697274
He believed that if you do good deeds in the name of another god, you're still doing it for God.
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>>17696539
what's that mate?
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>>17696419
There was no such thing as pedophilia at the time. I'm sure Dodgson thought he was in love with Liddell and obeyed what he believed to be the social norms of the time, just as Liddell's mother considered it acceptable for her to be photographed in the nude by Dodgson. It was a different time.

But it's hard to imagine Dodgson didn't feel attraction to children, or that he was unfamiliar with hallucinogenic mushrooms.
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>>17698689
Did he sex Liddel up?
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>>17700032

Some people say he did.

At some point the family abruptly cut off contact with Dodgson, and no reason was ever made public. A lot of people think he might have crossed some line with her.
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>>17692636
Dude, conservative, anti-drug mathmemetiticions, have created OCCULT.

In the past it was free, and mystical stuff was just called "prettyneat"
>>17697241
Christian theologians ALWAYS can make up stuff to discredit each other for "paganism"
But if you read the screwtape letters, (DON'T) you'll know brunt of C.S.'s jesus-swilling ignorance.
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>>17700049
The absolute madman!
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>>17700049
Muh hero
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>>17692636
>he hasn't google "TRANCEformation of america pdf"

Shh no one say anything
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>>17700049
>>17698689
>>17696419
>>17692739
solid 5/10 m80s
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>>17697292
So? What's your point?
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>>17700073
Holy shit you a retarded spergshit. If you are going to make claims about that book at least explain why you dumbfuck
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>>17698520
She is my waifu.
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>>17700532
"she" could be a man... ewww
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>>17700073
CS Lewis? Not ignorant, inspired. By love, no less.
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12 Monkeys makes my /x/-sense tingle
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>>17696460
What happens?
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>>17700958
This
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Definitely Prometheus
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Aliens VS Predator even if it did have a cheese factor...
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>>17703661
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>>17703661
Great pic anon
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Why didn't we heed the warnings?
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>>17703668
Couldn't let others miss this one.
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This movie, man. Fuck. So many fucked up themes here while still being fairly subtle and artsy
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and dis mother fucking clown...
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>>17696499
No it's not. The whole thing being animated gives the artist nearly infinite opportunities to draw a "real world" with artistic liberties meant to convey the idea that the real world sucks compared to the other one.
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>>17692577
;)
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This poor girl may she RIP...
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The Shining
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Remember the "Id".
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>>17703722
absolutely!
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Land Before Time. The girl who voiced Ducky (yep yep yep!) was murdered and burned to death by her father. He then killed himself.
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Seeing this thread makes me wonder how many people know what occult even means
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>>17703749
I agree to that statement, but wouldn't surprise me we actually had different opinions on what occult means.
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>>17703756
I use the dictionary definition, where occult is a synonym to paranormal. A lot of people seem to use it as a synonym to arcane or esoteric.
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Exactly for this thread it can be any movie that unsettles...shows a secret truth or just plain freaks you out

have some fun with it
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>>17703770
Faggots like you make me angry.
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>>17703770
occult
adj 1: hidden and difficult to see; "an occult fracture";
"occult blood in the stool"
2: having an import not apparent to the senses nor obvious to
the intelligence; beyond ordinary understanding; "mysterious
symbols"; "the mystical style of Blake"; "occult lore"; "the
secret learning of the ancients" [syn: {mysterious},
{mystic}, {mystical}, {occult}, {secret}, {orphic}]
n 1: supernatural forces and events and beings collectively;
"She doesn't believe in the supernatural" [syn:
{supernatural}, {occult}]
2: supernatural practices and techniques; "he is a student of
the occult" [syn: {occult}, {occult arts}]

>TL;DR: you are a faggot
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This one really unsettled me as a kid
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>>17703788
>>17703800
trolled softly
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>>17700532
>>17700083
>>17700148
Dodgson was rightly only attracted to innocent girls and Alice was right around the legal age of consent at the time of whatever incident lead to the family cutting off contact.

That age of consent happened to be 11 but we can't choose to apply our modern sensibilities to the standards of a different era.
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>>17703824
I can honestly say I would wifey Alice Liddell up
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>>17703862
You know essentially nothing about her. Many Anon-types can identify with Carroll in a lot of big ways. He was fairly obsessed with child culture his entire life. He was physically weak and suffered from enormous confidence issues which caused him to stammer and that's a big part of why he favored much younger girls than himself as he was able to be more confident with them. Liddell was probably just coincidentally in the "right" place at the right moment to become the focus of his inspiration and if he had been somewhat the wiser we could just have easily had Margaret or Lillian in Wonderland and Carroll may have lived a happier life even if Bertha in Wonderland doesn't have the same appeal (or maybe Bertha wouldn't be such a joke name who knows)

At any rate, although Carroll is a fascinating and sympathetic figure he doesn't make a very good role model.
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but I would still exercise my right to marry Ms. Liddell :)
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>>17703955
lol she probably wouldn't have been any more interested in you romantically than she was in Dodgson. She married a pro athlete.
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>>17703698
Is that Picnic at Hanging Rock? I love that movie.
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>>17703972
Stuck up bitch lol
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>>17703983
indeed it is senpai
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>>17703995
Pure mystery. No explanation. It just creeps you out and leaves you.
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>>17703744
Damn... didn't know that. No wonder I can't find a damn Blu-ray of the original movie.
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>>17703661
Great movie anon just finished watching it
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This is a total mind fuck
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>>17703673
Yeah, i have no idea why this movie seems occult. Can't put my finger on it
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>>17705529
It's because of Tom Cruise.
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>>17696392
Elaborate please, that sounds interesting
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cant forget this!
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or the great devils rain
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>>17703777
trips and the ninth gate are a deadly combo famalam
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and of course Bowie in The Hunger!
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>>17703744
>"wow, what an edgy, shitty thing to"

>its fucking true

I feel like crying man, Jesus.
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>>17707594
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>>17694602
I would say "They Live" is anti-occult and anti-Illuminati
>>17694614
/co/ here, I fucking love Jodo, he's possessed by flaming genius. Holy Mountain is one of my favourite films, it's fucking bonkers. You can tell they all really MEANT it and were living that shit. Mfw Eurotrash did a feature on Jodo that was all: "tee-hee boobs and bums and vagina machines tee-hee look at the funny foreign man's films willies tee-hee"
"..We manufacture war toys...to condition children from birth"
t.co. flow
>>17696471
What does Marianne Faithful's claims have to do with the Victorian era?!
>>17700958
Another one of my favourite films...Gilliam definitely has more than a passing knowledge of hermeticism and it's practices...just look at "...Doctor Parnassus" and "Brazil".
>>17703698
I fucking STILL haven't seen that film all the way through!
>>17705146
How have I never seen that poster before, it's fucking dope!?!
>>17706465
Continuing Bowie theme TMWFTE is pretty fucking occult...
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>>17710113
...and continuing the Nic Roeg theme, if you haven't seen this fucker watch it immediately. Very occult indeed and a bloody great film (with a total Hellbastard of a soundtrack!)!
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Event Horizon
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Lord of Illusions
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>>17710997
>>17711739
Great taste.
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>>17692638
>Nerd did hardcore hallucinogenic drugs to get all up in little girls' mental minds
Not true. Hallucinogenic drugs were not common in his time. and Psychedelic drugs were not discovered, or made public until the early sixties
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>>17711805
Thanks anon!
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>>17692558
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anJgF3cVB04

Back To The Future.
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young Sherlock holmes is awesome!
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cult classic
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>>17703744
how the fuck does the make the movie occult. she died after it was made obviously. Do you guys seriously sit down and freak the fuck out over Land Before Time because of that
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>>17711994
I think the morbidity of it struck the anons nerve.
It didn't hurt anything for him to post that.

come on anon post a good occult film as you see it?
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>>17712008
haxan is amazing! i love that fucking film.
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underrated
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>>17692558
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>>17712047
so glad some one else knows it
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>>17712057
looks cool whats it about??
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>>17700073
>hello
>yes, this is dog
but who was phone?
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>>17712008
this one is pretty good
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>>17710113
everything bowie was in was probably occult in some way
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>>17712096
Who indeed!
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>>17692558
but isn't listing some putting our finger on it?
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>>17712077
It's a documentary about weird rituals and etc from around the world. Here's a link with English subtitles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj5U8UbWqsk
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>>17712124
yes indeed bowie and the occult is a massive
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>>17712137
yes but I enjoy seeing which films we all can agree on its interesting

like the super obscure Idaho transfer
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>>17712186
Black Star is pointing to the new messiah, Sophia, incarnated in flesh as per VALIS. She is the solitary candle in the villa of Ormurin, the serpent, she will destroy the veil of maya and free us from death and insanity.

Sophia is a child born in 2004. Sophia is known to 4chan.
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>>17692558
well if its not from the bible it must be occult
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Another great obscure gem

The Devils Hand
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>>17712234
the villa of ormen was also a spooky tumblr page created before black star was made

http://thevillaoformen.tumblr.com/
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>>17697241
>>christian
>>pagan roots
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methinks yu do naught know what 0ccult means m'laddy
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>>17703673
This movie sucked.
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>>17712282
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I walked with a zombie: Also the scene in Alice with the Cheshire cat was beyond amazing. Everything in the human condition in one scene.
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>>17712300
really????????

I got to check that out right now!
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>>17712375
you all have great taste thanks for the leads
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whats the point of this thread.
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>>17692572
It's actually an allegory for the 7 deadly sins.
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>>17712446
Occult bizarre subversive evil cinema
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>>17712466
>5 families
>3 of them represent gluttony
Doesn't work
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>>17712476
Wonka - Wrath
Charlie - Lust
Gramps - Envy
Violet - Pride
Veruca - Greed
Mike - Sloth
Augustus - Gluttony

Thanks for being a faggot.
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>>17712486
interesting but too much of a stretch...
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>>17692825
Duh. The evil queen is a fucking witch, it is obvious there are symbols around. This doesn't make it occult, btw.
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>>17712568
if you think it is a stretch you should read the many papers that have been written on it.
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>>17712630
hey brother I come in peace. I would gladly read those if you have links?
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>>17697224
I always heard those "Golden Compass" books were satanic and supposed to be the counter to Narnia
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>>17712735
Golden compass trilogy is a cool mix of steampunk, fantasy and sci-fi but I wouldn't say it's occult or satanist. For sure it's against church and religion, but it feels just like narrative for entertainment purpose.
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>>17703972
He got cucked by chad? hes the original robot
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>>17712784
hahaa epic r9k reference dude. good meme. I like it. lookin 4ward 2 more
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>>17692558
This is all very reminiscent of MK Ultra and Project Monarch... Not trying to be a shill or whatever, I don't really know much about the subject...

But...

Cathy O'brien (claims to be / had been, a mind controlled CIA sex slaved under MK Ultra / Project Monarch) was made to watch films such as these when she was young to make her "disassociate." With her making multiple references to The Wizard of Oz.
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>>17692638
Wasn't Lewis Carrol a pedophile who was obsessed with his niece?
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>>17703744
Shot in the head or something wasn't she?

The Land Before Time gives me such an uneasy feeling.
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>>17711883
Watched this whole thing. I know people say that they work Illuminati symbols into modern media like music videos and performances and such to be edgy / because it looks cool. But noticing how often they seem to appear in movies like Back to the Future / Roger Rabbit / etc in such subtle ways is just fucking weird. Emphasis on the word subtle, because had this guy not gone full blown autistic I never would have noticed anything occult related in any of the films covered. A good bit of what he says seems to be quite a stretch... don't even know what I'm trying to get at honestly. It's just so fucking strange, what could possibly be the point?
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>>17712795
thank you for shaming me with this shitpost. Now that i know my anonymous peers disapprove i will correct the behavior.
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>>17712862
yeah and so what really? I hate peoples silly notions that it is this ultimate sin, I hope he fucked her
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>>17712858
absolutely anon that's why I started with alice. that and wizard of oz come up so much
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might be stretching buy a little similar to the ever present eye of horus??
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>>17713097
Or a Super bowl or music awards stage?
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Bumpy
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Hellraiser
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Fucking bump
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>>17711812
The vikings were taking mushrooms you fucking nerd
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>>17715097
Too cool
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>>17712568
>>17712630
>>17712687
https://m.reddit.com/r/FanTheories/comments/19e7nq/willy_wonka_seven_deadly_sins/

I disagree with how they portray Charlie vs Gramps, seeing as Charlie is more in longing, gramps sings a whole song about how he has a golden ticket when Charlie won it.

I presented this in college to a priest instructing a religion class, and he said he was going to include it in future courses. If anyone is considered and expert, it's him.
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>>17712908
Just a vid to watch if your bored.
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>>17715389
Those symbols will be every where in Lucifers New World Order
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>>17715397
lol All the symbols in video?
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>>17715404
No different ones you dumb fucker
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>>17713077
fuck off edgelord
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There's probably heaps of symbolism hidden here
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>>17712486
>Charlie - Lust

Do go on.
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>>17717759
>walking on the opposite side of the floor
he is her mirror image
>except he chooses to be on her side
He loves her so much, as if your mirror image were to be on your side of the mirror to be with you. This could mean that his love for her is boundless and that he would break dimensions just to be with her.It could also be her opposite side coming out to reality.


It's only forever anon
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It is no big deal if Charles Dogson fucked Alice Liddell get over it
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>>17718185
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Wow
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>>17718036
jareth :'(
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>>17718409
don't feel bad anon, he is free now
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>>17718036
I thought Labyrinth was a metaphor for an adolescent girl's sexual awakening?
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What about cartoons though
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>>17719266
without a doubt Gravity Falls
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He-man
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WITCHFINDER GENERAL

BLOOD ON SATAN'S CLAW

CRY OF THE BANSHEE

CITY OF THE DEAD

CAPTAIN KRONOS

THE WICKER MAN

BURN, WITCH, BURN

STARRY EYES
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>>17692558

eyes wide shut maybe
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>>17720651
>maybe
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>>17717797
Lust not in the sexual sense, but in the sense of someone holding a great desire.
He is lustful towards material things because of his family's lack thereof.
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>>17703628
what was stupid about that movie was the "omg guize these piramidz have egypt and mexico shit and all different letters of diferent lngauage from world this is wher world started"
as if when these people left this area to start colinizing the rest of the world, entire groups decided to only use certain letters and certain architecture cues from their previous society.
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>>17720926
You just described avarice (greed). If you meant to describe ambition, that falls under pride. Lust is sensual (as in, a hunger for sensation), not acquisitive.
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>>17715389
Did you even read my post? That question I asked was referring to the symbols/story behind the story in the movies covered in that vid.

>>17715397
But why? What is the point in cramming this shit in inconspicuous places in the backgrounds of so many movies?
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>>17703661
how's this occult?

>>17712055
This wasn't good. Bless Rob Zombie, he tried and failed.
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>>17692590
that's because the real world is a horrible pile of shit
that doped up look is ennui slowly killing Alice's soul
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>>17717697
all the elves have fucked off, there's no reason to leave salt everywhere
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>>17721060
Go look at a dictionary.
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was Michael paranormal occult guize???
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No but Prophecy was
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Batman Returns
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>>17692558

>I bet you never knew Alice in Wonderland involved magic

Wew lad.
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>>17694614
I heard Jodorowsky got a million bucks from John Lenon to make a movie however he wants. That's what he came up with
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Great topic
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>>17712466
Allegories are tied to the occult, and the two almost always coexist.
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>>17720646
>>17722066
>>17713070
>>17712687
>>17712568
>>17712470
>>17712439
>>17718185

Good ones, guys. Well done.
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