I'm sure there's other anons out there that experience

>>17675574
nigga what

>>17675574

I do. I did for the first time just last week and life shattered and I saw everything.

>>17675685
But then you can't explain it right. Not using language, even if you could remember.

Or perhaps it was that there was nothing to remember in the first place.

I've felt it. I think it's a brain glitch the way Deja Vu is.

>>17675709
Deja vu is a very different experience, it doesn't bring the same, how can I say, wow factor.

With deja vu, its kind of like "I remember this"

With this other experience, its exactly what I would get on dmt, but it comes in waking life.

I haven't done psychedelics in a few years but back when I did (2009-2013) I felt that from time to time.

>>17675574
i had a dream i ate a peach strawberry hybrid. when i put it in my mouth i could see it and knew it had a pit and could see these plant veins going from the pit to the seeds on the outside

the fruit flesh stripped away without chewing

>>17675574
I've had that, but it was a long time ago. I don't remember exactly when. I think I was dreaming at the time.

>>17675723
I've had many similar experiences where it seems I'm looking at something, but from what seems to be an infinite number of angles simultaneously

That's also a strange experience, maybe similar to what you described.

>>17675730
It does tend to come in dreams quite often, very strange when you get the same feeling here.

>>17675574
I've never done any drug besides weed, so I can't really understand your comparison, but I think I've had something similar happen quite a few times. It's a spontaneous feeling of understanding like I just solved a problem I had been working on for a while.
If i had to guess, I'd say it's some sort of misfire in the brain somewhere like when you feel like something is behind you but there's nothing there.

>>17675736
>like I just solved a problem I had been working on for a while

Good way of explaining it, its something along those lines. However I think its a little more complicated than brain misfiring.

Sure we could say its that. But saying its that doesn't really compare or match up to the experience, for what it is.

>>17675743
What do you think it is? I don't mean to question you like that, but I'd like to see where you're coming from.

mercury bro, melts at room temp

>>17675752
Anonymous 05/10/16(Tue)13:05:24 No.17675769▶
>>17675752 #
Well I think it's something along the lines of there is only one thing.

Like there is all this stuff, that we look, when you get this experience it tends to dissolve the feeling of duality.

Which is a very uncomfortable feeling. And I think all the people who say everything is one without actually experiencing it, don't really know what it feels like.

Like you get all these pictures with you are the Universe ect.

But I think in reality it's much stranger, like actually feeling it as an emotion.

However like I said, I can't actually recall what it was that I was remembering.

It's exactly like when I would take Dmt,and come back knowing something, but what I experienced can't be brought back here as something you can share with someone

>>17675779
Hm. That's a pretty interesting take on it. It's amazing how differently two people can interpret the same feeling. I tend to lean more toward the biological and psychological processes rather than the more mystical explanation, but it's nice to see the other side of things. Thanks for your perspective; It's a very interesting thought.

>>17675779
Great post. This is notoriously hard to put into words and I think you did a relatively good job there with your point about truly experiencing the dissolution of duality

>>17675574
I do sometimes, is really weird but cool. I don't do drugs.

>>17675794
Np, That's the thing anyway, I don't think either of our explanations would describe what it is.

I don't think anyone could pin it down and say there it is. That's what explains it.

>>17675714
Yes, but I still think it's a processing glitch and nothing more.

>>17675829
All I know is its something that I can experience, the experience being real in itself. Doesn't really matter what caused it.

I mean, our whole lives could be processing glitches. You may be looking at things from a scientific point of view, me a mystical one.

I'm not saying you're wrong and I'm right. I'm just saying its something.

>>17675851
I agree, it is definitely something. I prefer the scientific route because I think it has the best chance of being "true", in the sense of this reality, at least. But I know my faith in science is equally misplaced as mystical theories. I don't think we can really trust any explanation for things that happen to us subjectively.

It's weird being alive, isn't it?

>>17675906
>It's weird being alive, isn't it?

Indeed. Lucky we can distract ourselves with various things.

> But I know my faith in science is equally misplaced as mystical theories.

Brave man, not many people will admit this. But its true

This sounds like it might be a form of epilepsy OP. Go to a neurologist.

>>17675925
I have trouble distracting myself from the absolute freakishness of existence. I know that my death is inevitable, but I just can't stop myself from wondering what it will be like to not be like this anymore. I feel like, if I don't spend my time wondering about it, then I've wasted my time here.

>>17676022
How funny, because I look at it the other way, if I think to much about it I will waste all my time and not live life.

But I have spent my a long time delving into "It". Guess its just a part of human nature, well now anyway.

I think its the ego. Like most things.

>>17675574
geez they really need to stop giving me out to you guys.

>>17676286
?

>>17676305
i broke one of the gates m8 its fucking bad

>>17675937
I have epilepsy and it doesn't sound at all like it

>>17676320
Please go roleplay elsewhere

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>>17675574
I've always thought of this as nirvana, and I've experienced it frequently, correlating with psychedelic use. I had an acid trip that felt completely scripted, where I was with my girlfriend who was also tripping, and every time I would try to say something meta about the situation (which itself feels VERY meta, like breaking the fourth wall of reality) she would strangely completely forget what we were talking about. Also, any time I said something introspective and troubling, it would really seem like reality was about to crumble. I was at a concert, and I remember vividly asking her "What am I?", and her being extremely worried at that question while the music became immediately ominous, the lights all turning to a menacing deep red. The feeling as I've described it, is one of frightening synchronicity. It's been a spiritual experience for me every single time. Like God is looking at you, to quote American Beauty.

Anyway, now it happens to me whenever I smoke a lot of weed. It's better than sex. Like ego porn.

>>17676336
no rp here know the big one thats like pitch black with all the water/oil whatever it is its leaking waterfalls m8

>>17676339
First of all, thanks for that gif, really cool.

I can relate to your experiences,through my experiences and from what I've heard from you, and most of the people who do psychedelics, almost all with have a similar experience.

At the time it seems like nirvana, you're right, but when you're in a normal state of mind, to be honest, it scares me a little. For personal reasons.

>Anyway, now it happens to me whenever I smoke a lot of weed. It's better than sex. Like ego porn.

This happens to me 100% now when I smoke weed, I smoked weed as a youth, don't really anymore, maybe on the weekends because my wife likes to have a smoke.

But for me weed no sends me into what seems to be some sort of trip, where I see the connections to everything.

I would assume its from my experiences with Dmt, because it never happened when I use to smoke weed as a kid, or in my 20's.

Now it does.


Do you ever get scared that its all scripted? I mean sometimes it scares me, then other times I'm like fuck it everything will pan out how its meant to anyway!

>>17676343
We're talking about the dissolution of duality. What you're saying is further games, even if it were true, it would be an act of the divine.

>>17676339
I have asked similar questions or made statements while tripping, like I will look at someone and what they're doing looks so fake, or like you said scripted.

As if they're doing it only because you're looking at them, and when you do make a statement or ask a question, it's kind of like person you asked the question to can't lie.

They seem paper thin, if that makes sense.

>>17676352
but i am divine....

>>17676368
Not your ego. Perhaps consciousness, but that's not exactly yours.

I can see why you're confused

I like to toss and turn in bed mulling over the existence of god or lack thereof. I would approach the problem from many perspectives hoping that all at once, in a chain-lightning effect, I would correlate however many insights it took to realize the answer objectively. One time I was drifting very near sleep but still thinking the problem over and I remember reaching a conclusion that was so clear and obvious, so sensible that it gave me this immediate but fleeting feeling of power and content. I felt like I had attained the knowledge longed for by everyone and I felt like my search was over yaknow? Like I had completed man's work in that instance and I would change the world as soon as I woke and shared what I had found. Alas, whatever point I came to has escaped me and I haven't been able to achieve the same feeling of completeness or even a reasonable answer when I think the problem over to this day. I think it's like what you described OP

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>>17676349
I'm glad someone is feeling something similar to me. It's hard to find people who like to talk about phenomenology of fate, or whatever you want to call it.

I'd really like to try dmt, haven't had a chance as of yet, but I can only imagine I'd have a better grasp on these concepts. The hardest thing for me has been training myself to try and remember what concepts I do experience through simpler keywords or images.

In regards to the fear, I have a lot of it in my life. It being scripted isn't generally what scares me, because I trust that if there is a divine force (which I sometimes perceive), it can't be more chaotic and unjust than the reality we were born perceiving. I see our experience as a practical asset, maybe a sixth sense or a third eye, or whatever myth you want to believe, but a peek into the abyss that shows how thin the frame of perception (and belief) is.

I see myself as an artist as long as I am an agent, and so I value the experience because my ultimate goal is to play with those frames to my (and hopefully their) advantage.

But the truth isn't what scares me. I do get scared that my mind isn't meant to ponder these things. I use a lot of self-honesty to keep from going crazy. I try to remember that what feels true is all in your head. Belief is a commodity, like respect, and you should hold yourself to a standard with each. I'm sorry this pastable cringy text is so long. I have no other outlet.

>>17676381
Yeh, it seems to be exactly what I described. Thanks for the reply.

Just as it seems impossible to retain whatever it is or was, I think it would be impossible to describe here. But its nice to hear from other people experiencing the same thing

>>17676388
Not trying to stroke the ego, but you seem very switched on, keep up the good work

>>17676394
I am the poster you replied to here.
I also have another weird thought/feeling (I guess one incites the other) that there is an epiphany that as soon it is realized by myself reality as a whole will crumble and it will be like one of those viewmasters changing instantaneously from this reality to whatever is behind it all, like God or something -- whatever is wholly and objective 'truth'

>>17676420
Actualy once you reach it they will come to try to topple you down

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>>17676402
That seriously means a lot. Thank you.

Good thread, OP

was actually thinking about making a thread on this... the last few weeks this has been happening to me except its a very specific memory or vision and like you said it slips away quite quickly. I seem to have a strange geographical region in my head, i keep seeing or remembering a cove in some jungle (ive never been to any jungle) with wooden walkways, vines, animals, the works... sometimes it hits my head so vividly that i can "remember" (for lack of a better word) the entire surrounding area... it gives me a strange nostalgia feeling, almost as if its something i saw as a toddler or infant but i know that i didnt. For some reason this little jungle cove has some weird significance and lately i keep being reminded of it... any input at all on whether this is weird or not would be appreciated.

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>>17676358
I've made a pretty good habit of being around tripping people while tripping, and there are moments I had with a friend that I'm still questioning.

He had me pretty convinced he could read my mind. I embarrassed the hell out of myself, and almost let slip some sexual fetishes because I thought he already knew them.

I'm pretty sure he was just leading me on, because I was gullible and body language is your first language when you're tripping, so I was most likely an easy mark.

Drugs are fucking tricksters sometimes. Sometimes the only answers you get are questions.

I know exactly what you mean though. Sometimes I've asked someone a simple question and they gave me a emotional, truthful answer with no pretense or evocation. That time they weren't tripping, and it was like I saw into the pain in their eyes.

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Okay so i need any /x/perienced individuals tohelp me out here... the last few weeks this has been happening to me. I seem to have a strange geographical region in my head, i keep seeing or remembering a cove in a jungle (ive never been to any jungle) with wooden walkways, vines, animals, the works... very very detailed and specific... sometimes it hits my head so vividly that i can "remember" (for lack of a better word) the entire surrounding area... it gives me a strange nostalgic feeling, almost as if it was something i saw as a toddler or infant but i know that i never did. For some reason this jungle cove scene has some weird significance and lately i keep being reminded of it... it makes me feel like ive been in this place because of how familiar it is to me... strangely enough when i "recall" this place it strikes me the same way my childhood home does... my brain seems to "miss" this place... Ive thought a lot about it and i just cant figure out where the thoughts of this specific scene could have come from... Any input at all on whether this is weird or what it could mean would be appreciated.

>>17676464
>Drugs are fucking tricksters sometimes. Sometimes the only answers you get are questions.

Man, so fucking true anon

>>17676464
>almost let slip
Shows you how strong your mind is. Even tripping balls you still had a sense to doubt your interpretation of the world around you enough to avoid doing something objectively stupid.

I wish I could blame drugs for all the times I let my fetishes slip.

>>17675574

nitrous oxide does this sometimes.

>>17676454
It sounds as though you might be tapping into the collective unconscious, from one POV.

Barring that, a recollection of a dream seems to be making its way into your subconscious. You must meditate upon the image in order to bring illumination regarding your mental state. Its a piece of your inner child, beckoning a reevalution of your being. Neuroplasticity is wonderful for adapting to a new mindset.

>>17676487
>from one POV
It's like you haven't even read Jung enough to be using that term.

>>17676475
Sounds something similar like Jamais Vu (which translates in french to Never seen) but the word means you identify with something you feel is familiar but at the same time it's oddly unfamiliar as well to you.

>>17675574
To stay on topic though and seeing numerous posts of people recalling similar things, Collective Unconscious does come to mind a bit but not completely since most of it is theory and can't really fully be tested. No, i'm not discrediting the idea of it but with things regarding this topic (life) it really is a matter of opinion since everyone in some way experiences it differently.

But to put it short OP I would say you are not alone feeling it. I, too, have felt like this often.

The only real part I can give you any info regarding it is the part where you feel reality will "shatter" and I can tell you that from personal experience is anxiety taking over and while you may think you have found all the answers... Whenever a new answer arises, more questions do as well.

>>17676486
Yeh I know someone that had a similar experience on laughing gas. Something like what op was sayin

It's basically you starting to realize that you are dreaming and the dream starts to faded away but you get trapped by the dream

>>17676327
I do as well. There's many different forms of seizures, a friend of mine forgets whatever she is doing and just walks off or leaves it or doesn't come back to it when she has one. Other than that there is no physical sign. Chronic de'ja vu and lu'me vu are also forms.

Interesting

You can visualize better than you are able to explain things. A lot of people realize that, especially with psychedlics when their mind is overly active. I've noticed that it's better when I type things out. I wish we had brain to brain communication.

>>17679984
lu'me vu?

>>17675714
I've done dmt several times, so I know this feeling of being presented with "the secret." You're just like "of course! now i understand everything," but every time you come down you can't remember. It wouldn't be able to translated into words anyway, and I think it very well might be a sort of trick or delusion.

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>>17676420
This happens frequently with me in a way

My life is just a neverending spiral of heightened perception.

Once I reach an epiphany, life is good and I'm happy, something out of my control kool aid mans into my life with new problems. When I say out of my control, it's that I'm not directly able to perceive or comprehend any butterfly effect causes to things that crash their way into my life.

Totally random unwanted problems like hitting a nail on the highway, my tire blowing out and causing me to hit the car next to me. A random knifeman stabbing me on a train cause he felt like it that day. A meteor hitting my house.

Now I try to have a constant problem going on at all times so I don't get any suprises. Though bad things happen, I learn from them.

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>>17680664
Maybe we have the capacity for brain to brain communication already

>>17676339
Holy shit! I'm happy you described this! I've done drugs and this happens on all of them basically! Mostly stimulants but psychadelics as well. It can happen sober but rarely and only in certain conditions. I could talk about that all day but my stories wouldn't vary all that much from yours. It's the same thing, in fact you worded it much more eloquently than I could. Thanks so much for that anon.

>>17675574
op that pic looks like goatse

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The world beyond the veil is neat.

>>17676475
You've probably thought of this already, but what if it's an important place from a past life?

>>17681966
What's goatse

>>17681990
haha

>>17681990
google it, you'll find it was a good comparison

>>17681471
I honestly believe that general emotional content can be transferred brain to brain, but specific linguistic messages cannot.

eg. you think "I hate you" about someone they might feel worse, but they won't necessarily know why

>>17682077
True

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A little boy
went out to play.
When he opened his door...
...he saw...
the world.
As he passed through the doorway...
...he caused, a reflection.
Evil was born
Evil was born,
and followed the boy.
I'm sorry...
what is that?
An old tale.
And a variation:
A little girl...
...went out to play.
...lost in the marketplace...
...as if half born.
Then, not through the marketplace,
you see that, don't you?
But through the alley
behind the marketplace.
This is the way
to the Palace.
But it isn't something you remember.
Forgetfulness, it happens to us all.
And me?... why, I'm the worst one!
OH, where was I?

>>17682514
I read this twice and it doesn't seem to make sense to me, am I missing something

>>17682514
no wonder it feels so weird looking at a reflection of myself

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>>17675574
It doesn't shatter it just gets WEIRD!

>>17683891