Anyone know anything or have any thoughts/memories of Atlantis

>>17651935
>seems pretty believable to me
Why? There are solid hints Atlantis is just a made up story and not actual history. What makes you think otherwise?

There's hints that go both ways, many nazis who despite everything where somewhat clever believed in it and also given the nature of many people it seems there should be or has been somewhere nicer and more organised then most places today

>>17651935
>seems pretty believable to me
You seem predisposed to believing in Atlantis, and by extension less responsive to logical arguments against it

Kind of like I was with Mothman when I was 11.

>>17652002
"Smart people believed it" isn't actually a valuable hint. Maybe you can tell why they believed it, that might be a hint.
Also "There are kind people around" doesn't really imply anything.

>>17651935
They existed where helped along by very benevolent entities technologically also see lumerians but as usual were corrupted by power n greed.

you don't think there should be somewhere better run and managed then anywhere today?

>>17652055
Why should we?

the people who are in charge of things these days don't seem to me like the people who are the best suited for it

>>17652094
So what

>>17652053
>>17652053
something like this. Were given knowledge that was used for selfish means instead of healing and such. Their goals were to seek power. This back then was quite literal as apposed to today where seeking power means seeking wealth. The "power" basically had many capabilities including modifying the body, offensive destructive capabilities, (like death rays) traveling in outer space, and many others. The abuse of the power lead to its destruction. After 40 percent of the entire planet were wiped out from disintregration from warfare, The destruction was triggered and most of the rest of them were wiped out. Earthquakes, volcanoes, tsunamis, and finally plagues that easily effected them due to many modifications to the genetic pool.

>>17651955
well there is the Piris Reis map which was made long before the new world was discovered as well as the stories of native Americans interacting with white people long before columbus landed in that area. Part of the reason the conquistadors had such an advantage when they did was because the natives thought that they were gods (they had been there before and demonstrated great power and attempted to civilize them). Also, there is the sphinx...It has weathering on it from rainfall. The last time there was significant amounts of rain in that area was over 12000 years ago.

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It's a generalized legend about the pre-flood world.

>>17652200
>stories of native Americans interacting with white people long before columbus landed in that area
vikings

>>17652230
This, the theory runs deeper into mankind being a slaverace created by ancient aliens to build their ideal global civilization.

But an uprising came, they abandoned ship, flooded the place and left.

>>17652241
When i say native Americans, i mean south and central Americans as well. Vikings may have seen north america, sure, but these stories come from all of the Americas' people. All their stories correlate to each other.

>>17652315
>but these stories come from all of the Americas' people
Sauce now.

>>17651955
>There are solid hints Atlantis is just a made up story and not actual history
OK, what are the "solid hints?"

>>17652392
At Plato's time, many recognized Atlantis for what it is: a metaphor. Only centuries later people started thinking it was real stuff.

>>17652320
Urban legends, nothing more.

Santorini was a minoan resort built on a volcano that later erupted and led to the demise of minoan civilization. The legend would have been passed down orally through the Mycenaeans and the greek dark ages before being recorded properly by Homer in the 9th century BC. The shape of the island resembles atlantis, though it isn't "beyond the pillars of hercules" or continental in scale.

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>>17652472
>posting images with 0 context is fun

>>17652559
I actually don't know the context of those pictures, but they seem atlantis related (from my knowledge)
Some anon posted them a long time ago without any context whatsoever

>>17651935
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timaeus_(dialogue)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critias_(dialogue)

Here's Atlantis for you. Guess what, its an allegory and it never existed.

But yeah water magic people do seem pretty cool.

Not real at all, because you can pin their existence to a book, but cool. And the argument against this pure logic is the same as those fucking flat earth morons. "U aint seent it so u aint know"

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>>17651935
Its obvious that the origins of humankind is not what we are being told. Its also obvious that there have been civilisations on earth before recorded history. Just look at Göbeklitepe, it dates back to the ice age so there was obviously advanced civilisations back then. And what happened at the end of the ice age? The sea level rose 120 meters.

And then there is the sphinx, all the megaliths all over the world, the numerology (google 432 000 for example) and myths that is shared between different cultures.

If you want to go further down this rabbit whole i recommend checking some Graham Hancock on youtube. Michael Tellinger also has some interesting ideas.

I think at the very least that we had several advanced civilisations 12-15k years ago and that they traded globally with each other and had advanced knowledge about geography, building techniques and astronomy.

>>17652624

That all may be true, but none of them were Atlantis.

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>>17652634
And how would you know that?

>>17652200
>Piri Reis map
15th century Turk made it, after the New World had been discovered

>>17652644

See this post
>>17652606

>>17652644
>Mu
Shit's getting serious

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>>17652648
>15th century Turk made it
He copied it from several source maps that are now long gone.

>>17652649
And? I've heard about that all ready. Still doesn't prove if it didn't exist or not.

>>17652624
Or maybe the dating is wrong.

>>17652658
>He copied it from several source maps that are now long gone.
How convenient

>>17652658

>I've literally heard that it was made up in a book, but it could still be fucking real!

How, do you mean some similar place could have existed by coincidence. Let's call it Atlantis 2 or the real fucking Atlantis then.

>>17652664
Why not Neo Atlantis

>>17652677

How about we just get a Greek city, fill it with SJWs, and have them identify as Atlantis

>>17652663
How inconvenient maybe?

>>17652663
>How convenient
How is that convenient? It is what happened.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piri_Reis_map
> It was presented to Ottoman Sultan Selim I in 1517.[4][14] In the map's legend, Piri inscribed that the map was based on about twenty charts and mappae mundi.

>>17652664
So just because something was mentioned in a book it couldn't have existed?

>>17652694

>mentioned in a book.

Made up in a book, not mentioned.

It being made up means that it doesn't exist yes.

The existence of some other island civilization, possible, the existence that that city called itself Atlantis, the invention of some philosopher they could have never met or heard of? Unlikely.
The possibility that it's the Atlantis that plato wrote about in his books? Zero.

>>17652691
I find it really convenient to made shit up and claim it's from a lost source. How can people disprove you in that case. Just theyr word against yours.

>>17652710
>hurr it was mentioned in a book so it was made up and couldn't have existed at all.
What ever mate, stay ignorant. Pleb.

It's seems likely there were civilizations predating Sumer whose traces are yet to be found.

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>>17652711
>I find it really convenient to made shit up and claim it's from a lost source.
He got pretty close for just making shit up.

>>17652742
>it's only existence comes from the book and conspiracies on the internet but its real!

>>17652753
>conspiracies
I don't think you know what that word mean.

Typical pleb.

>ywn be 14yo and believe in atlantis again

>>17652759

>lying to idiots on the internet who will believe that Atlantis existed because "you can't prove it didn't' is not a harmful conspiracy for money

The same logic for why you are sucking twenty dicks for lunch everyday because you can't prove to me you aren't.

But you won't ever understand this.

>>17652768
>claiming that something _could_ have existed even though it was mentioned in a book
>lying

What ever mate. Stay pleb.

>>17652776

What ever mate. What ever mate

This is why that girl who you crushed on thought you were creepy

>>17652776
>>17652759
>>17652742
That's a very convincing argument you make, you have won me over.

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The lost continent of Atlantis is actually South America, and the story of the sinking of Atlantis related by Plato and re-told by Donnely and hundreds of paperback conspiracy theory books is the garbled account of the destruction of the Atlantean capital by the Venusians. The people of Venus eventually settled in Japan after their home planet became inhospitable. The Ainu are the descendants of escapees of the purge who interbred with the Venusians.

>>17652814
Ayyyy

>>17652776
Hey chump, Tokyo comes up on chinese cartoons, doesn't that proves it is ficticious?

>>17653031
Narnia and Hogwarts also appear in books, ipso facto they must be real

>>17652438
>many recognized Atlantis for what it is: a metaphor. Only centuries later people started thinking it was real stuff.

Such as? Plato himself said it existed 9000 years before his time.

>>17653128
everything plato said was in metaphor

>>17653137
[citation needed]

Still want some of those many people during Plato's time as well.

>>17653137
this assertion itself is in metaphor

>>17653119
And N.Y., it's featured on most action movies
See, i can act retarded too

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Antarctica is Atlantis.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh4b0UGNF5k

Atlantis got destroyed because the atlanteans were too greedy and thought they should rule everyone else.

The atlanteans just change their name, they are still around today.

>>17653167
That's why the nazis went there.

>>17653128
>Such as?
Aristotle

>>17653213
And what did he say, metaphorically, about Atlantis?

That's only one other person besides Plato, not exactly many.

No mention of dwarka?

>>17653216
Pythagoras also traveled to Egypt, India, and China to learn not only mathematics, but to learn about Atlantis. When he returned to Greece, his teachings were kept private until the people outside of his school found out. They then burned down his school along with his books and journals that was accumulated throughout his journey.

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>>17653225
I've been trying to discover the day that humanity lost most hope, probably was when the library of alexandira was razed.

>>17653159
You've been "acting" retarded the whole thread.

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>>17653305
And you were only pretending, right?

>>17653235
Before the bronze age collapse slavery was rare, the Greeks considered it the age of heroes and distinguished it from the iron age of toil. It wasn't a utopia, but people focused on building pyramids, temples, sailing around the mediterranean collecting golden fleeces, wrestling giant boars and other random things rather than some kind of insane obsession with gaining power, ruthlessly exploiting everything outside their inner circle with full on edgy game theory sociopathy.

The burning of the library of Alexandria erased the last records of this era.

>>17653328
>It wasn't a utopia, but people focused on building pyramids, temples, sailing around the mediterranean collecting golden fleeces, wrestling giant boars and other random things rather than some kind of insane obsession with gaining power, ruthlessly exploiting everything outside their inner circle with full on edgy game theory sociopathy.

What are some good books on this?

>tfw will never sail around with your bros for laughs

>>17653335
>what are some good books on this
the odyssey, surely

>>17653339
Besides Homer, there's really not many people who talked about this era. It's pretty unsettling.

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The fact that there is no credible evidence beyond a handful of period stories leads me to believe Atlantis, most likely, did not exist.

A handful of insane people on youtube lead me to laugh uncontrollably whenever anyone mentions Atlantis, though.

>>17653345
somewhere in the chronicles of the kings of england it says homer was executed for making things up and heraclitus also mentioned that he should have been put to death or something else as well which makes me doubt even this limited source

>>17653361
Usually people who are put to death are the most credible.

>>17653368
if you take that point of view then the work would undoubtedly been altered so we're left in the same fog of uncertainty

>>17651955
>hints
It was from a fucking story written by Plato, with the message behind it pretty much being "absolute power corrupts absolutely." Watch the Atlantis episode of "Why do people laugh at Spirit Science?" for a more in-depth discussion.

>>17653375
You can't alter the essence of the Odyssey or Iliad unfortunately. You would have to completely remove it from memory.

>>17652230
>research papers produced
>Alaska's fucking massive

I mean I get it's part of the states, but what good has ever come out of there besides reality TV shows about ice, survival or gold...

>>17653388
the essence, most probably would not be changeable I grant you but striking any reference to key sections would be ruinous to greater learning about the period in question, assuming it was altered of course

>>17652315
Vikings could very possibly made their way down the Eastern coast. There's a distinct possibility that they could have made it all the way down to the southern tip of South America. Not saying the did, but it's possible

>>17653401
a goodly amount of oil is there

they let the ooga boogas in there and it went from atlantis to apelantis :D ooga booga :D lmao :D

Sundaland is the origin of the Atlantis myth.
It was a lowland that incorporated today's Borneo and Java. Now it's the Sunda shelf. During the last glacial maximum the sea levels were 100m lower than today. Enough to expose the shelf. It was a tropical paradise with excellent conditions for agriculture. Must have been somewhere in the terminus of great Himalayan rivers. Millet and one other cereal comes from there and also the current domestic chicken.
It probably ended with tsunamis caused by breaking of the ice sheets. Vulcanism is also active in that part of the world. Survivors migrated north to India, Pakistan, Mesopotamia and from there to the rest of the world.

It's the sinking part of the myth that remained closest to the facts.

Fuck Atlantis, Lemuria rules

>being over 12 years old
>still believing in atlantis

>>17653167
>>17652814
It was not a specific island or continent or city. It was a civilization.

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is Alt Land Is :--D
not a place but an era ::--DD
when Piruet, head of the Aser ruled the Vaner from the Nord Bole :--D
When Alt Land was Is, there vas ice age everywhere exept Hel :--D Dis where the Bocks live ::--D
i asernas borg, cära dagen, ekens frös grund, hel, i jarlarnas karlarnas lag, månen nordstjärnan oden pålen qvadrat ra sol tor, ursprunger vaner, i - ASERNAS BORG ::--D

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>>17653936

The lost CIVILIZATION of Atlantis is actually South America, and the story of the sinking of Atlantis related by Plato and re-told by Donnely and hundreds of paperback conspiracy theory books is the garbled account of the destruction of the Atlantean capital by the Venusians. The people of Venus eventually settled in Japan after their home planet became inhospitable. The Ainu are the descendants of escapees of the purge who interbred with the Venusians.

>>17653563

Interesting theory.

The famous "Java Man" homo erectus is presumed to have reached there during another glaciation when the shelf was exposed.

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The blind leading the fucking blind

>>17651955
Never discredit tales, as exaggerated as they may be sometimes they're based on the very real past.

>>17654064
nobady knows what you're talking about.

>>17655091

Alot of people said Troy wasn't real until they found it.

Atlantis exists, much of it is simply resting in the Mariana Trench. Sadly, only recently have humans started to explore this part of the ocean.

Atlantis was the de facto capital of the world when it was one continent, Pangaea. It's citizens were responsible for the creation of many ancient "high-tech" devices like the Antikythera mechanism as well as structures such as the Pyramids. Obviously, the metropolis was lost when the continent split apart.

What happened between the time the ocean drank Atlantis and the rise of the sons of Aryas?

>>17655091
So what do you have to tell about all those rumours about you sucking dicks?

>>17655656
derp

>>17651935
there's plenty of proof that the red sea was smaller than it is today, way smaller.
i've read a few books and plenty of articles that posit that it is likely that there was a city in the marshlands, now at the bottom of that sea.

it makes sense to me that this could be the story biblical flood's origin as well as atlantis.
too bad everyone's in conflict over there for anyone to do any digging under the sea.

>>17655694
Atlantis survivors are making people make war around there so we can't dig their ruins.

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the law of one, Edgar Cayce, and Cassiopaea transcripts all describe the history of Atlantis. many that are alive today are reincarnations of people that lived in that time. These reincarnations will attempt to repeat events from the past -events that lead to cataclysm and utter destruction of a civilized world. This destruction had so much impact on the people at that time that the idea that their history even existed in the first place would come to much scrutiny today. Imagine a destruction so catastrophic that your primary focus is to only live to see the next day. Think about that as you observe the world today as it heats up... literally and figuratively.

>>17652624
>>17652624
>Göbeklitepe
>dates back to the ice age
It dates back to around 10,000 BCE, in the Neolithic period. The last glacial period of the last ice age was essentially over by then, although parts of the northern world were still glaciated for a couple thousand years. Turkey, where Göbekli Tepe is, had been warm for around two thousand years by the time the site was built.

In any case, what sort of evidence does this site provide toward a secret origin of mankind, or advanced early civilizations? It's a few rings of stone with animal images carved into them.

I think atlantis was antarctia there was a big event like a tsunami that covered the island them an ice age came and froze it over.They found palm trees and many tropical type of plants and just really weird shit in general and I guess they found weird artifacts

>>17655908
It isn't about the stones and the animals carved on them. It is about the space ship buried under them.

>>17652002
>there should be or has been somewhere nicer and more organised then most places today
This post illustrates perfectly how people will believe whatever they want. The only Atlantis story from antiquity is from Plato and he discribes Atlantis as an imperialistic and agressive civilization, and yet somehow you assume Atlantis was "nicer". It's obvious that's not Atlantis you're talking about but your own personal utopia, which of course you think there are "hints" that it existed/exists/may exist. This is the reasoning process underlying christianity, left liberalism and marxism as well, that of the coming utopia that will regenerate fallen man, be it the kingdom of god or the classless society, some place where it will be "nicer" and "more organized". Good thing you're just shitposting on 4chan and not organizing the masses to forcefully impose your "nicer and more organized" version of society upon recalcitrant reality and on unregenerated human beings. But I digress.