Former F.B.I chief on the connection between the C.I.A. and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EBowBPwNW4

(properly linked)

no difference between republicans and democrats high up according to the former FBI chief

who is Bernie sanders
who is Donald trump

what flavor of totalitarianism is being offered to us? communism or facism?

>>17111148
Protip: This guy was head of the FBI in California for just a few years. He didn't run the whole FBI. He was basically the town sheriff

Multiple investigations into the (now debunked) "Satanic Panic" have found they were hoaxes, and Gunderson was desperately trying to peddle his shit to whoever he could because he was out of a job.

But hey, you seem like the type to just believe whatever you're told at face value, so who cares.

>>(now debunked) "Satanic Panic" have found they were hoaxes

evidence, please if you are not a shill

>>17111215
How fucking new are you? Do you live under a rock? How do you not know about this?

>>17111230
OP here, I do not really think that the people who are doing such things to be deserving of positions in government. I tend to have a more optimistic and forgiving mindset, even for people in positions of power over their fellow men and women

>>17111236
>I do not really think that the people who are doing such things to be deserving of positions in government

You're still operating on the assumption that all of Gunderson's claims are true.

See? You just believe whatever you're told.

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>>17111239
idk it's a pretty strong case, as former FBI chief with a lot of time into all of his research

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Gunderson
http://www.csicop.org/si/show/conspiracy_theories_and_paranoia_notes_from_a_mind-control_conference/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR6KVYJ73AU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRaezLTU2a0

>>17111251
>as former FBI chief

No, he was head of the FBI IN CALIFORNIA. He was also only there for like 2 years. He FAILED to become the FBI director as well.

So what'd he do afterward? Tried to peddle conspiracy shit because he was out of a job using his FBI background as cheap cred.

Why he was also talking shit about the CIA when he was in the public outer layer of the FBI should be a red flag for bullshit.

>>17111270
shill pls try harder, your jewish nose is showing

>>17111283
Sorry you can't deal with reality.

I have a question though. Let's say all this shit is true and there's a vast worldwide network of devil worshiping (kek) pedos who rape kids and they're in deep with a shadow government who's controlling the world.

What in the fuck are YOU gonna do about it? Shitpost on /x/ some more?

>>17111270
>>17111288
if you could demonstrate THESE claims to be true (lol) then i have no problem believing them of course

wikipedia, at least, for one source, does not say about this man what you're saying

>>What in the fuck are YOU gonna do about it?
participate in democracy?

lol when ted gunderson shows pictures that children drew and says "by looking at based on my experience these children were exposed to satanic activity"

having said that the pictures are pretty creepy looking. definitely /x/ material

"children who have not been sexually molested will not draw the genitals. children who have been sexually molested and sexually ritualistically molested will draw the genitals"

>>17111297
>if you could demonstrate THESE claims to be true

What claims? His FBI career? It's public record.

>participate in democracy?

Because the devil worshiping conspiracy group that controls the world you're proposing gives a fuck about democracy.

You wouldn't do shit about it even if it was true. Which it isn't, because multiple investigations were already done and 99% of the claims were made up by evangelical Christians. Innocent people were actually beaten, killed, or had their lives/careers ruined BECAUSE of the rabid witch hunt that the Satanic Panic caused.

Want an example? Look up a little book called Michelle Remembers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Remembers#Criticism_and_debunking

>>17111330
>>It's public record.
demonstrate it here to us then, please

>>You wouldn't do shit about it even if it was true.
I disagree.

>>BECAUSE of the rabid witch hunt that the Satanic Panic caused.
demonstrate this to us here in this thread, please

>>17111330
if you are the rationalism hero warrior that you are acting like then surely, i have faith that you will demonstrate these things you are saying to us here in the thread, pl0x

>>17111230
So, literally no evidence then. Nice to know.

>>17111338
>demonstrate it here to us then, please

Demonstrate what? You can look up his public record and it directly says it on Wiki.

>I disagree.

Doesn't change reality. What would you do? Write a fuckin' letter to congress asking them to please stop the devil worshiping shadow government from raping infants on evil altars?

>demonstrate this to us here in this thread, please

There is no "us" and there is no demonstration when it's common knowledge. You being ignorant of it isn't my problem. Feel free to research the Satanic Panic of the 80s and 90s.

One example of a "satanic ritual abuse" fraud: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurel_Rose_Willson

Sticking your hand out and demanding shit isn't how it works.

>>17111344
>I'm too simple minded to do google searches
>THERE4 U HAV NO EVIDENCE LUL
>nevermind the crackpot in OP's vid providing 0%

If you're dumb then you're dumb. No other way to put it.

>4 posters itt

OP is samefagging like a motherfucker.

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>>17111148
Keep fighting the good fight OP.

God bless.

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>>17111491
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Gosch

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>>17111494
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Dutroux

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>>17111501
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_child_prostitution_ring_allegations

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>>17111505
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/details-on-bill-clintons-ride-on-pedophiles-lolita-express-sought/article/2566852

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>>17111508
http://vigilantcitizen.com/vigilantreport/the-world-of-mind-control-through-the-eyes-of-an-artist-with-13-alter-personas/

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>>17111512
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Camelot

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>>17111516
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMpguv7st7s

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>>17111522
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_EjM6WSg4U

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>>17111525
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4vRVbw-z2g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gge0rt94wM8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Gu8CoNGoYY

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>>17111531
;^)
(^;

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damn thank you, /x/ sure knows how to deliver

>>17111616
That's Pet3r, a common conspiracy nutjob who doesn't know what nuance is and is one of the most insane people on here. He's been banned multiple times for spamming.

But, yet again, you just believe whatever you're told at face value.

>>17111525
>>17111531
>>17111547
after Britney spears alter-ego i lost ya

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>>17111634
Would you please enlighten us as to the "nuance" of institutionalized pedophilia?

Muh former FBI '"Leaks'"

This Mason was in league for at least thirty (30) years with the masons he allegedly accuses.

He knows kids are kidnapped because he was into the rings that kidnap kids without being caught.

>Muh '"Leaks'"

>>17111650
lolwut. are you saying ted Gunderson was a mason?

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>>17111642
Before having her mental breakdown, Britney gave an interview about her song "Mona Lisa" in which she talks about being "cloned."

Teen IDOLS are finely tuned machines designed to model behavior for impressionable young minds.

Our pop culture is designed to dehumanize.

REPENT AND BE BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST.

>>17111661
in what way is it designed to dehumanize?

i would definitely consider this claim

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>>17111676
Boys are taught to destroy and girls are taught to consume.

It's pretty simple.

>>17111684
that sounds pretty far fetched

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>>17111696
haha

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>>17111643
Because I know you're the most dishonest son of a bitch on here.

Daily reminder about Pet3r, everyone.

>>17111715
i would hear this man's defense. i believe the devil often turns the forces of the world against the believers in Christ.

>>17111715

It's always a pleasure to bump into you. Since we both know the drill by now, I figure it would be instructive to explain each move. For example, we should all note how you are trying to steer this thread away from the OP topic and turn it into an argument about me. As I mentioned, I'm happy to oblige you because it will be educational and will keep this thread alive for the time being.

I'm still praying for you.

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>>17111726
>dat denial
>literally defending a scumbag

>>17111731
lol what is this shite m8

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>>17111735
delicious jelly

>>17111729
>For example, we should all note how you are trying to steer this thread away from the OP topic and turn it into an argument about me

That was after you mass spammed as usual and made it about you. As you always do. In every fucking thread you shitpost in.

I have no interest in defending the government. I just call out bullshit when I see it. Not to mention discredited fucks like Gunderson hurt legitimate people who DO blow the whistle for real.

But I know how you really are. You don't care about any of that.

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>>17111739
we are all adults here, and all capable of mutual respect. speak openly and plainly. i suspect this is the BABYLON

>>17111740
>> Not to mention discredited fucks like Gunderson hurt legitimate people who DO blow the whistle for real.

i would like to hear more about this, pl0x

>>17111739
nay, are we not both countrymen? do we not share the same desires, do we not have the same needs and wants?

>>17111740
I was happy to post anonymously before you named me so you're actually the one who opened this can of worms. In fact, this is a classic example of one of your favorite maneuvers; projecting your own motivations on other people's actions.

Let's brake it down so when you try and weasel your way out of it, it will be especially amusing.

>I anonymously post images and links that directly pertain to the OP

>Someone thanks me for it (>>17111616)

>You show up complaining and make direct reference to my nick ( >>17111634)

Of course none of this will prevent you from reflexively contradicting me anyway but it's always fun to watch you try.

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>>17111759
The Kingdom of Heaven is my country; is it yours?

>>17111752
>i would like to hear more about this, pl0x

Just check out, for example, a few of the 9/11 whistleblowers. Most of whom were either killed or imprisoned.

Did Gunderson get blackbagged or killed? Nope.

>>17111762
>I was happy to post anonymously before you named me

Because you're easy to spot. You post the same shit 24/7.

>this is a classic example of one of your favorite maneuvers; projecting your own motivations on other people's actions.

Nope. Just pointing out why Gunderson is discredited and showing what a dishonest and evil piece of shit you are.

>>You show up complaining and make direct reference to my nick

Yep. Because you don't know what nuance is and your entire agenda is not to actually fight against said corrupt regime, but to get morons to join your cult:
>>17111661
>REPENT AND BE BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST.

You're a huckster.

>>17111780
The only way to actively resist the social conditioning of the world is through the power of the Holy Spirit.

Nothing less than complete spiritual transformation is required to escape the tiny boxes they will put us in.

We were made for bigger boxes.

>>17111777
checked; also bless you brother

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>>17111797
Likewise.

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>>17111777
God be with you.

>>17111794
Why do you think that one should do this?

What if Jesus, whoever that is, is actually part of the NWO system too?

>>17111794
>muh wholly spiwit

See? You're a fucking con man, a used car salesman selling a fake product.

Once again making the thread all about you and your bullshit cult. You've proved me right.

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>>17111811
and with thy spirit.

>>17111813
I trust Jesus because of what He did for me; He's a friend.

>>17111816
This is the classic combination of arrogance and vitriol that we've all come to expect from you.

>>17111825
It is very hard to believe this, especially after I found out the truth. I can't go back to being ignorant anymore. It's just too much of a life changing experience. How do you plan to convince anyone that this is true?

>>17111816
He doesn't know the truth about all religion, but especially about Christianity and the Bible. I mean, a lot of people don't, but he's one of them.

>>17111816
it's spiritual things anon, different from things of this world. the Lord says...

"This is the bread that came down from heaven, not like the bread the fathers ate, and died. Whoever feeds on this bread will live forever.”

'Jesus said these things in the synagogue, as he taught at Capernaum.
When many of his disciples heard it, they said, “This is a hard saying; who can listen to it?”"

>>17111825
Now you're reduced to empty words because you have nothing left after you proved me correct about you.

>>17111829
Trust me. See:
>>17111715

>>17111829
I can't convince anybody anything, all I can do is tell them my story.

The Word of God is like a sower's seeds; some fall on bad soil and does not take root while others fall on good soil and bear much fruit.

>>17111839
You are an expert on empty words.

>>17111850
See? Now you're, once again, reduced to meaningless "NO U" posts.

Pathetic.

Oh, and I forgot to mention that Pet3r here REALLY likes passive aggressiveness. He's the kind of faggot that says "I'll PRAY for you" with a look of utter spite and contempt in his eyes, with a fake smile.

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>>17111844
You can't really convert someone who has re-contextualized their previous beliefs, especially when those were Christianity. I know the shit you're going to use on me and I know how to refute every point. I'm not an atheist, but I do hold to vastly different beliefs than you or the atheists. I've come to the point in my life where I've found a veritable sanctuary of truth, within the A.'. A.'. and have no need for faith. Faith is a joke. It is the enemy and I call my "Satan" by it's true name - Iman. Faith is evil.

>>17111850

As long as God is enemy of Cartoons, I, as a manlet, will remain an enemy of God, only Satan can give you Imagination and "talent".

On his 60th birthday, Mussolini received a gift from Hitler of a complete twenty-four volume set of the works of Nietzsche.[170]

>>17111844
>all I can do is tell them my story.

Which you've done numerous times in a hilariously narcissistic way. As if anyone gives a shit.

Pet3r has admitted a few times that he lives in a half lit place, has no TV, and is on /x/ and other boards almost 24/7. Check the archives, he's here every single day for literally hours.

>>17111874
>Faith is a joke. It is the enemy and I call my "Satan" by it's true name - Iman. Faith is evil.

I like you.

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>>17111873
So now we've reached the point in our dance where you colorfully insult me with a tone of righteous indignation.

As much as I would love to continue playing, I have to go Christmas shopping and get some lunch. So until next time, God bless you and I will pray for you.

I will also pray for my fellow /x/-tians who make this community so amazing!

>>17111616
>>17111797
>>17111811
<3

>>17111874
I am curious. Who is Iman?

>>17111911
>So now we've reached the point in our dance where you colorfully insult me with a tone of righteous indignation.

You were doing that long before me in this conversation. Albeit more weasel like. Which you do every time. And when you're called out on it, you say you're justified because muh jeezus.

>So until next time, God bless you and I will pray for you.

Thanks for proving me right yet again.

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>>17111777
Holiest of all trips checked

>>17111911
>I have to go Christmas shopping and get some lunch

That means go to another thread or board. You never leave your house.

>>17111916
Iman is Arabic for faith. In abstract it is more like a concept opposed by Aqidah, which is a worldview. The rejection of faith is essential to moving forward spiritually, in both religion and the more practical side of the occult.

>>17111874
Could you explain the AA a bit?

>>17111930
It is akin to a brotherhood, with each of it's members being loosely structured. One does most of the work in isolation, with some minor interaction with a superior to confirm attainment. It's methods are to obtain an understanding of the nature and powers of one's being. The next step is to invoke what is commonly called the Holy Guardian Angel, which is an intellegence higher than one's own. It's almost akin to a perfect version of "you" from the future. Making contact is what pushes one further along, but all of the advancement comes with hard work. There is no simple path in this Brotherhood. Even as a simple Probationer one is sorely tested to the limits of one's ability. Google up the names Astrum Argentum, Astron Argon, and Thelema to find good resources for this. A good site is http://www.ordoaa.org/ since it does a decent job explaining things. I'm a rouge member, not recognized by the official one. If you can do it and make it in to the "real" one then good luck.

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>>17111288
holy fuck, do you actually get paid for this? I would love to score a job shitposting in a canadian maple syrup forum

>>17111874
93 brother.

>>17112436
>93
Tell me a little bit about yourself. I'm curious to meet a fellow brother of the Order here. I hardly thought there were three of us, so I might be among friends and many. Agape is sorely needed.

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>>17111350
Jesus Christ, you BTFO'd him so hard that you killed him.

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>>17111919
Ah yes your old stand-by: "I know you are but what am I?"

No encounter would be complete without you employing that one.

>>17112998
Agreed. I pop in and out of here occasionally. I'm also from a "claimant" lineage. Are you OTO as well?

>>17113061
I am not with the Ordo Templi Orientis, but I do follow Thelema through the A.'. A.'. Order. I consider the Liber AL vel Legis to be a profound work, which has had an impact on my life. I really have a lot to thank the occult for a great many things, so I tend to get into these kinds of threads. I want to make sure that people don't think we are all child molesters and killers. We're good people.

>>17111148
Every time you use your autistic brain drags us all down.

>>17111344
>"b-b-but muh youtube video!"

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>>17113081
Define good.

>>17113090
Trustworthy and above suspicion.

>>17111148
>another Satanic Panic fag
We should have filters for these retards. If they refuse to let in any modicum of rationality to their thought process, the least they could do is not bother everyone else with their bullshit.

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>>17113095
So talented actors basically.

>>17111955
Is it an intelligence higher than your own, or is it you from the future?

If it's you, how does it make any sense that you can train yourself into something higher? Isn't that like the metaphysical equivalent of perpetual motion? Or eating your own flesh? The kind of thing that might seem like it works for a while, but actually makes you weaker and will kill you if you keep doing it?

It's a very popular idea, I'll give you that. Dying is also really popular, apparently.

If it's really a higher intelligence, and it's not you, then perhaps it is worth finding something out about higher intelligences, what they are, where they come from, what their goals are, whether you can trust them, and so forth. Humanity actually has an enormous collective experience about these things. The truth might be harder to find, though.

I don't know much about Crowley, but it seems to me that he never really figured out whether the Holy Guardian Angel was another being or an aspect of himself. Maybe I'm wrong about Crowley, but getting confused about the boundary between yourself and another person or entity has never been a sign of high functioning, or sanity, in my experience.

Of course insanity is also very popular, but if I'm going to do a lot of work I want to get super-sanity out of it. I can go insane any old way.

When I first became convinced that higher intelligences than human existed, my first thought was: "Who is at the top of the food chain? Who runs it? Who made it? Who is credible?"

OK, that was my second thought. My first thought was more like "WOW," or "Well, that changes everything." But not really "I wonder what future me is like."

Hey, I'm right here. I got me all the time. If I was God, that would be enough. But I'm not God.

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>>17113184
Crowley was the prototypical charming junkie who never ceases to captivate Bohemian types.

>>17113081
It's important that we work to continue to dispel those old ideas. It may have been fun and profitable for Crowley to play on his image in his time, but it certainly hasn't assisted promulgation of the Law much. I still see people online regurgitating the old "child sacrifice" bit when these people haven't even looked at the source material, where there's a footnote that makes plainly clear that it's metaphorical. It's always nice to connect with other Thelemites. I've also met many great, kind, insightful, intelligent people through association with both orders.

>>17113184
Quoting from IAO131:

"We have to unders tand that it may be more practical & effective to speak about the Holy Guardian Angel as either external or internal at various times and to different people. Crowley, when talking about whether angels & demons were truly external/separate from ourselves, remarked 'Our Canon of Truth is Maximum Convenience.'

If it makes communication clearer & more coherent to speak of a Being separate from myself, the Angel will be spoken of as external; if it makes communication clearer & more coherent to speak of the True Self or an aspect of oneself that is the Angel, then the Angel will be spoken of as internal. All this should be understood in the light that Godhead itself is beyond these divisions with which language inherently limits us."

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>>17113339
Footnotes are for nerds.

>>17111148
So why do they target children and teens?

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>>17113371
Softer flesh.

>>17113339
What's also nice is to have similar thoughts on a single subject, which is hard to find these days.

>>17113363
Accusations are always on the side of the accuser to prove, not the condemned to prove contrary. Child abuse goes contrary to the Law of Thelema as most understand it, which explains why such accusations of it are without merit. Bigotry among the Black Brotherhood is nothing new, but it is disheartening.

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>>17113499
Would you please explain how child abuse is contrary to "do what thou wilt?"

>>17113589
"Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law"...the eleven word formula made up by Crowley before he was 33 in the USA when he was living on a sandbar in a river. With a mohawk haircut too.
It doesn't mean "Do whatever you want no matter what"it means you submit to disciplines and exercises and study that reveal to you what your Will is. Your purpose in life. If your purpose in life is to be a mediocre accountant, you'll have a great life if you embrace that and get busy with it.
Look at all these people thinking they should be celebrities or millionaires or both, see how very happy they are. It's widespread, generalised misery designed to make them shoppers, not citizens of the world.
Crowley was even against abortion as contraception, for rice cakes, though he did enjoy his drugs.
He was an allergic reaction to Victorianism, like all allergic reactions, he was worse and more acute than what he was reacting against.
Crowley was trolling a century before there was an internet.

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>>17113671
So what if after submitting to exercises and study it is revealed to someone that their Will is to molest children?

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>>17113683
Please respond.

>>17113683
You go straight ahead and see what the world has in store for you, you try to be the very best and highest quality child molester there is. If that is your Will, then nothing can get in your way.
Of course, those really evil people that want to torture and hurt children are very rare and due to the nature of their activities they get caught, hard. Keep in mind that vulnerable children respond to the attention of adults, some are just evil themselves. Kids like that are unsatisfying to sadists.
The whole fantasy of secret world wide organised child destroyers only works when you think all children aren't into it and that secrets can be kept. These ideas require a lack of knowledge of human nature and how groups work. Secrets are corrosive and eat you hollow, they must erupt. A human is a crappy container for a secret to be kept in.

GUNDERSON IS AN AGENT OF DIS-INFORMATION!!!! IT IS FUCKING OBVIOUS.

>>17113750
IN ADDITION TO MY PREVIOUS POST the fantasy of global child trafficking and ritual sexual abuse, springing as it does from Victorian/Puritan repressed nonsense, is ill-dignified by the very real, very bland, very regular rape and murder of children to cure diseases, to empower spells, to release sexual tension. Across Africa nad the Middle East, children are used horribly and their screams go unheard because they are poor, they are not white and their plight doesn't fit into any real story of anything but a boring appetite for domination and horror out there.

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>>17113750
So child abuse isn't contrary to the "Law of Thelema" then.

>>17113787
It isn't mentioned. Liber Al vel Legis is a pamphlet, worth a look. Try to understand the atmosphere of global fascism it popped up in. The author was removed from Italy for being whacky.
The real obsession with child abuse seems to be amongst the generation of perpetually offended complainers who seek in vain for a truly horrible crime to rail against. Beyond certain limits the offender's sanity must be in question.
Here's the key, try to keep your mind off child abuse for just a moment and take this in: whenever you do something for it's own sake, first people will question your sanity, then they will question your morals. A great way to resist a tyranny is to do something without purpose, but to do it very, very well.

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>>17113808
The "Law of Thelema" does not prohibit child abuse and you said so yourself:

>>17113750
>you try to be the very best and highest quality child molester there is.

>>17113683
A person doing their True Will is in perfect harmony with their own nature as well as that of the rest of the universe. Someone infringing on another's ability to do their Will is out of alignment with their True Will, in the fulfilled Thelemic sense. It's radical freedom, but people neglect the radical responsibility that goes with it.

"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law" is a declaration of freedom. The phrase suggests that the purpose of incarnation is to do one's Will. Will, also called "True Will," is relative to the individual. This axiom declares that purpose itself is individual, that Will is the highest form of action, and that each individual should be free to do their Will.

"Will" is different from "want." Will implies will-power, conscious choice, and discipline. Crowley states in Liber II, "From these considerations it should be clear that 'Do what thou wilt' does not mean 'Do what you like.' It is the apotheosis of Freedom; but it is also the strictest possible bond." To do one's Will is to manifest one's potential to the fullest extent, with tireless energy, and without "lust of result."

"To seek to dominate or influence another is to seek to deform or destroy him; and he is a necessary part of one's own Universe, that is, of one's self." - Duty, AC.

Thelemites respect the freedom of all people. We recognize that others have opinions, enjoyments, or careers that we disagree with. These differences are respected unless they insult the freedom of another.

"My former work has been misunderstood, and its scope limited, by my use of technical terms. It has attracted only too many dilettanti and eccentrics, weaklings seeking in "Magic" an escape from reality. I myself was first consciously drawn to the subject in this way. And it has repelled only too many scientific and practical minds, such as I most designed to influence. But MAGICK is for ALL.

I have written this book to help the Banker, the Pugilist, the Biologist, the Poet, the Navvy, the Grocer, the Factory Girl, the Mathematician, the Stenographer, the Golfer, the Wife, the Consul–and all the rest–to fulfil themselves perfectly, each in his or her own proper function." - AC

>>17113787
Did the Mantis to get a smudge off the Fly's face?!

Duty is described as "A note on the chief rules of practical conduct to be observed by those who accept the Law of Thelema." There are four sections:

Duty to Self: essentially describes the self as the center of the universe, with a call to learn about one's inner nature. Further, every Thelemite is to develop every faculty in a balanced way, establish one's autonomy, and to learn and do one's True Will.
Duty to Others: A Thelemite is called to eliminate the illusion of separateness between oneself and all others, to fight when necessary, to avoid interfering with the Wills of others, to enlighten others when needed, and to recognize the divine nature of all other beings. Further, it is noble to relieve the suffering of others, but pity (seen as condescending) should be avoided.
Duty to Mankind: Thelemites should try to establish the Law of Thelema as the sole basis of conduct. Further, the laws of the land should have the aim of securing the greatest liberty for all individuals. Crime is viewed from the point of view of violating one's True Will ("Thus, murder restricts his right to live; robbery, his right to enjoy the fruits of his labour; coining, his right to the guarantee of the state that he shall barter in security; etc.").
Duty to All Other Beings and Things: Quite simply: "It is a violation of the Law of Thelema to abuse the natural qualities of any animal or object by diverting it from its proper function" and "The Law of Thelema is to be applied unflinchingly to decide every question of conduct."

>>17113683
>>17113698
>>17113750
>>17113787
>>17113821

See:

>>17113834
>>17113837
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>>17113834
Yes the freedom to molest children we get it.

>>17113839
A tasty meal.

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>>17113873

See

>>17113683
>>17113821

>>17113821
I can see that you are a very clever person and common sense is your forte.
I also said other things.
I fear i can't make them any simpler for you.

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>>17113915
oh, a narcissistic Christian trolling on /x/
Sorry, thought you were a person.
Not a hungry ghost.

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>>17113930
Clearly you lack discernment.

>>17113874
So you didn't read it at all then.

"To seek to dominate or influence another is to seek to deform or destroy him; and he is a necessary part of one's own Universe, that is, of one's self." - Duty, AC.

Thelemites respect the freedom of all people. We recognize that others have opinions, enjoyments, or careers that we disagree with. These differences are respected unless they insult the freedom of another.

Crime is viewed from the point of view of violating one's True Will ("Thus, murder restricts his right to live; robbery, his right to enjoy the fruits of his labour; coining, his right to the guarantee of the state that he shall barter in security; etc.").

Duty to All Other Beings and Things: Quite simply: "It is a violation of the Law of Thelema to abuse the natural qualities of any animal or object by diverting it from its proper function" and "The Law of Thelema is to be applied unflinchingly to decide every question of conduct."

>>17113885
That is out of line with what is compatible with True Will.

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>>17113947
People seek to deform and destroy themselves all the time; if someone's "Will" is to molest children then they are acting in accordance with the "Law of Thelema."

>>17113947
>>17113953
>>17113874
>>17113885

I missed this, also:

>Duty to Others: A Thelemite is called to eliminate the illusion of separateness between oneself and all others, to fight when necessary, to avoid interfering with the Wills of others, to enlighten others when needed, and to recognize the divine nature of all other beings. Further, it is noble to relieve the suffering of others, but pity (seen as condescending) should be avoided.

>>17113962

That's false. Even disregarding everything I've said here, if you read any of Crowley's work, that would be plainly obvious to you. Read Magick Without Tears.

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>>17113953
Whose to say someone's "True Will" isn't to kiddie diddle?

>>17113962
It's in direct conflict with interfering with the Wills of others. >>17113971

>>17113993
Oh my god. You people aren't reading. Go back up and re-read my posts.

>>17113993
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>>17113985
Who cares what Crowley thinks? The pupil often kills the sensei after all.

>>17114016
Because in the context of this discussion it's relevant?

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>>17113995
What if someone's "True Will" is to interfere with the Wills of others?

>>17114023
But it carries no authority.

>>17114011
see
>>17113885
>>17113683
>>17113821

>>17114042
That may be a "want" but that is out of alignment with True Will definition, as explained above, and in Crowley's works.

>>17114042
It's literally the source for all this.

>>17114058
The answer to what you keep repeating has been stated repeatedly.

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>>17114085
That's just Crowley's interpretation of the definition. What if a "Holy Guardian Angel" tells someone that the TRUE definition of the "Law of Thelema" is to abuse children.

>>17114098
If we were to entertain your poorly informed thought experiment, that would be some new law. Not a re-assignment of the Law of Thelema. Thelema is Greek for "will", by the way. "Love is the Law, love under Will" is the other half of the Law of Thelema. Love in Greek is "agape". Agape and thelema (love and will) both enumerate to 93.

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>>17114127
That's nice but what do you tell people who "identify as pedosexual" who just want to "love" children?

>>17114150

To seek therapy.

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>>17114156
To which the smart ones will reply, "Oh I do."

>>17111205
>people from /x/ not just being fed a story and running with it
>never looking into the actual background of individuals
>never actually verifying facts
Wat. /x/ browsers are the most logical thinkers of our time. Anyone who doesn't think so is immediately banned by magicfag mods - ameanwutttttttttt.

>>17111148
Evil!

>>17111148
That patch was photographed by the artist Trevor Paglan, some fucking cocksucker has put a watermark on it to pretend he has something to do with it.