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>mysterious mass-shooting of 3 armed men in California ri

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>mysterious mass-shooting of 3 armed men in California right now
>at least 12 dead, many wounded
>they show exactly one guy in the interview
>his hat

Ok.

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/12/02/us/san-bernardino-shooting/index.html
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There are still people who think freemasons are more than just a bunch of old fat guys' in a secret clubhouse?
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>>17035535
You realize thats a perfect disguise?
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>>17035535
Shills get the fuck out
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>>17035526
Why arent they searching that tunnel/channel across the street? There's a water reservoir is whatever there.
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FALSE FLAG FALSE FLAG FALSE FLAG FALSE FLAG FALSE FLAG FALSE FLAG FALSE FLAG FALSE FLAG FALSE FLAG FALSE FLAG FALSE FLAG FALSE FLAG FALSE FLAG FALSE FLAG FALSE FLAG
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no tunnels, no shills, and thats a 49rs hat.
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You guys think the government is going to ban having guns?
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>>17035526
they showed multiple interviews on cnn you lying faggot.
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>>17035564
This was the first
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>>17035549
So, why is this a false flag operation, then?
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Watch these shooters get away from this without a chance of them being found. Any evidence who could of done it yet? Sucks for the 20 or so dead people.
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Ordo ab Chao?
>Brevikface.fmj
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>>17035586
It's to promote their ban against guns agenda. Also that OP makes it even more plus i search the meaning of San Bernardino and i got "bold as a bear" and "highlander" as to say the elites are getting very bold in their actions.
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Shep smith has said multiple times "there was police training going on nearby so they were able to respond quickly" lmfao. It's always that. Such a fucking setup.
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>>17035526
IF IT AINT A SNAPBACK TAKE THE HAT BACK
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>>17035560
No, the NRA has basically everyone on their payroll.
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>>17035535
The vaaast majority of blue lodge dudes are just fat dudes in a secretive clubhouse; they think this or are simply content with this. The steps aren't really secret to any of them, everyone has some understanding of the general, overall body of the syndicated associations. Those with interest, knock- and the way is opened, those seen to have potential are asked- and the way is opened. Next person that utters the word shill with their stupid fucking mouth should be dragged into the street.
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>>17035526

Where can i buy this guys hat
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>>17035624
You're an idiot if you believe that Masonry still isn't relevant. It helped start the country and has deep roots. They've stated they aren't the ones operating in the background running the country but they do have very deep secrets.
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>>17035636
Read the post again. Breath this time before responding. Better yet, just don't respond at all.
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>>17035636
source on this "statement?"
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Yelling shill is like screaming wolf. You're to ignorant to critically perceive the real danger so sound off at everything, too stupid to tell one way or the other so sound off anyway, or actually do know and aren't any better than the mystical shill and sound off for spite.
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>>17035526
>Cali has one of the highest populations of Masons
>The highest population of young Masons (<30)
>Among the highest for advertising and PR because of it
Hardly surprising.
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>>17035657
yeah I'd like to know too

>>17035636
If not this guy is just pulling shit out of thin air as-per-fucking-usual on /x/

God this had better not resurface everyday like Elisa Lam threads, So much shitposting is beyond Australian levels.
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Is there anything suspicious yet? This has very little interviews and footage compared to what they've been showing us. This is ~30 min from where I live so Im super curious. I haven't seen anything really fishy yet. Only thing is an alleged tweet from isis reguarding this. If this is "isis" then we will potentially be in another war. Sure hope it's not.
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Meh. I see that freemason symbol all over. It's just the boy scouts for old men.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBfE_Nqr9Bg

News reporter calls them actors, twice.
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>>17036588
and?
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>>17035564
You get your news from the infamous liars at cnn?

>stupidity intensifies
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>>17036626
they were airing actual interviews with witnesses/law enforcement. so unless you're an idiot who believes in crisis actors, there's nothing to argue with and you're just being an asshole.
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>>17036588
actors, the people commiting an action, dont tip your tin foil fedora too hard now pal, the NWO might be watching you!
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I don't know if anyone remembers me.
I knew SoCal would be hit after what happened in Paris, I said it would happen on Black Friday, I don't know why it took them so long.
I'm currently on travel right now and my ability to do research is limited, but this is my take on things:
The Muslim was supported by Mexicans. I have a hunch that the two with him intentionally let him get killed. I think these two are going to surrender soon and claim gang affiliation. Their going to sing about how they've been working with Isis and are going to be let go early as part of a 'deal.'
I think these two were in some way supported (trained, funded, encouraged, etc...) by CIA. I think the CIA was told to do this by people connected to Trump. I no longer believe that Trump is sponsoring terrorist activity because honestly he just doesn't seem that smart.
Again, I could be wrong as I have been many times before, but I think Canada is next for an assault. I think Toronto seems like a good target, but will most likely be an area the new Syrian refugees have access to.
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>>17035526
Just another shooting that either didn't happen or is a push for gun control
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>>17036636
>>2015 and not believing in them
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>>17036636
You are making some wild assumptions. If you knew how many times cnn has been caught lying you would not be in support of them.
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>>17036734
all news outlets lie. it's not the only place i get news.
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>>17036636
Crisis actors are an actual occupation.

The fact you do not know this is proof you should not be posting on the subject.
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>>17036738
cnn are notorious liars.

As long as you know they have an extreme bias for the state and major industries, and check your facts you should be fine.

>I do not support them out of principal.
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>>17036748
>Crisis actors are an actual occupation.
please enlighten me. i will require a source that is not totally batshit, but i'm open to hearing what you have to say.
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>>17036759
how do you feel about fox news or even msnbc, which have had their own lapses of truth? where do you get your own news?
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>>17036748
Just dropping into thread. Crisis actors? Of course! A guy could literally make up a title for any role an actor could attempt.. actor actor, british accent actor actor, fatguy freemason hat actor actor, wow...
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>>17036770
actor is a funny word. really. read it few times. look at it. it's like spider. here, say tor ac over and over until youre saying actor. there, you got the news in a nutshell
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I was surprised at how few interviews I saw, but your link doesn't lead to the interview in your photo anymore.
>>17035589
I totally thought this was how it was going to go. So glad I was wrong.
>>17035603
I'm totally willing to believe in false flag operations, but this was was too expansive. normally either the gunman shoots himself, or they apprehend him quickly. Suck a large area was shut down for this operation. I have two family members who work at the Amazon warehouse in San Bernardino and they were put on lockdown. A few employees were actually allowed to go to their cars to get their phones and heard and witnessed gunfire in front of the complex there. There's probably at the very least 500 people working there AT A TiMe. Shit was for real going down. But there hasn't been anything about Amazon in the media yet, but I was hearing it over and over again on the scanner.
>>17036529
The names of the dead suspects sound middle eastern, but that was about it. There's also evidence it was workplace vengeance. I think the reason there's so little civilian sources is because everyone immediately in the area was afraid for their lives and the cops got the area very quickly blocked off.
>>17036588
This has got to be fake. This guy has a detectable southern accent. No local news anchor in fucking L.A. sounds like that. FAKE.
>>17036702
Woah, are you me?/ I was waiting for it to happen on Black Friday, and had a feeling for the past few days it would hit near here. As soon as I saw the "Breaking News" graphic I knew what was going on. All the other stuff you're talking about... meh. Trump isn't sponsoring violence, he's just paying attention and exploiting it. Something like 355 "mass shootings" this year alone. Not hard to predict there will be another, and another.

I'm about 20 minutes away, but I have noticed that the flight path of Ontario International Airport has been altered all day.
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[Note to Grand Lodge] Advise members not to wear hats like this, ever.
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>>17035535
THEY GOOD BOYS THEY DINDU NUFFIN
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http://www.vvng.com/vvc-alerts-public-to-upcoming-active-shooter-training/
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>>17036763

If you can't find the info yourself you won't be able to understand it

Just Google crisis actors and look at the companies providing this service
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>>17036763
Oooohh actually Google only produces bullshit on the first few pages, if I can remember the company that provides them. It's easy enough to find just gotta have a butchers and I'll post it
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>>17038268

WHY ARE THERE ALWAYS DRILLS?!
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>>17035603
You don't know much about San Bernardino then...
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>>17036588
>Actor
>a participant in an action or process.
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>>17036702
>, I said it would happen on Black Friday, I don't know why it took them so long
>I don't know why it took them so long
Because you were wrong. Stop trying to twist things so you can say you were right, you were plain wrong.
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can you join the freemasons if you're black?
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>>17038277
>It's totally a real thing
>Hurrr find it yourself!!!!
And this is why no one takes you tinfoils seriously.
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>>17038340
join prince hall masonry like trayvon's daddy
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>>17038345
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>>17038342

No one needs to hold your pleb hand pleb...
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>>17035589
>could of

For future reference, it's "could HAVE".
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Interestingly all my links are now 404ing

Amutees in action was one and crisis actors.org the other

You can still find pictures and things regarding good old Jeff from the Boston bombings, maybe I'll try the way back machine to see if there's anything can be gleaned
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>>17038366
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>>17035535
My uncle is a Freemason. It is basically just what you said.
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>>17038359
>Make a claim
>Can't back it up
>THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE YOU JUST CAN'T UNDERSTAND IT!!!!
Keep telling yourself you are a special snowflake who has discovered the truth.
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>>17038366
>It's totally true guys
>Lol suddenly none of my links work
Nice try faggot.
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>>17038350
He's also a Crip gang member.
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>>17038280
>>17038268

I DEMAND AN ANSWER
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>>17038383
did the crips make him sacrifice his son?
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>>17038366

http://evrn.net/magazine/crisisactors-org-another-planted-clue-to-the-sandy-hook-conspiracy/

http://memoryholeblog.com/2013/04/11/crisis-actors-at-sandy-hook/
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>>17038366
"The actors can play the part of the shooters, mall employees, shoppers in the mall, shoppers who continue to arrive at the mall, media reporters and others rushing to the mall, and persons in motor vehicles around the mall."

These are actors for training and drills.
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>>17038387
I don't think so, but the Crips use a six pointed star in some parts of the US.

I don't think the Masons did either, but I probably won't change your mind.
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>>17038390
Haha this shit is hilarious. None of those actors look even remotely like the people in the Sandy Hook event.

>White girl with dark hair
>Yep must be same person
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>>17035671
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>>17038340
Yes, but most join Prince Hall Masonry because most join Prince Hall Masonry. Tautologies are fun.
The regalia for PHM is also way more pimped out and purple.
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>>17035526
That guy looks like a patrician ruling class bad ass. And that hat, he's flaunting it in our face
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>>17038380
https://web.archive.org/web/20150221114406/http://www.amputeesinaction.co.uk/

happy now faggot?
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>>17038380
https://web.archive.org/web/20140214032239/http://crisisactors.org/

and one more

both these sites are no longer online
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>>17038382

https://web.archive.org/web/20150221114406/http://www.amputeesinaction.co.uk/

https://web.archive.org/web/20140214032239/http://crisisactors.org/

what now fass?
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>>17038391

you aren't even trying are you?
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Is /x/ actually afraid of the Freemasons? I have a Masonic Hall right down the street from my house, they're just a bunch of old dudes who drink beer and hang out. Stop being a bunch of pussies. I'd join the fuck out of their club if I could, it looks pretty chill.
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>>17038528
>>17038527
#Rekt
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>>17038538
nobody is scared of cowards who hide behind closed doors and have to rely on deception
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>>17038547

As far as I know anyone can join. Why don't you visit one of your local halls and check it out? You could probably have a beer with some old dudes. Your grandpa was probably a member. Fucking neck-beards man.
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>>17038538
>/x/ actually afraid of the Freemasons?
Your autism is showing.
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>>17038527
>Helping schools and first responders create realistic drills, full-scale exercises, high-fidelity simulations, and interactive 3D films.

Not really relevant to this discussion.
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>>17038558

Your neck-beard has tangled itself into your brain. You're afraid of a bunch of old men like they're hiding away performing human sacrifices or something. What is actually wrong with you?
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>>17038559

keep telling yourself that
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>>17038530
Are you? These are not actors that they bring out for interviews on the news, or to fake mass shootings.

These actors take part in drills and simulations. Or in the case of the amuptee website, they take roles in films or tv that need an amputee.
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>>17038565

Nigga you fuckin 9th level cray.
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>>17038565

you aren't convincing anyone
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>>17038565

did you really think they would advertise that they are used to fake real events?

is that what you people meant when you said provide links? that it would be there along with all the drills they perform? holy shit

how fucking dense are you?
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>>17038580
>>17038572
>>17038567
^ The same person shilling. Look at how ALL the posts have a paragraph under the post-quote.
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>>17038586

these are me and i never made any secret of it, there is no way i know of to edit my post
>>17038580 (You)
>>17038572 (You)

this is not me, though i agree with him entirely
>>17038565
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>>17038586

I love when neck-beards incorrectly call out shit like this. One of those are mine nigga. Go back to post detective school.
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>>17038580

and i posted this as well, am i only allowed to post once? you punks is crazy
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HURGLDERGDOOG ILUMENDADY BE LEAVING CLUES TO TORMENT US

Get a fucking grip.
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>>17038572
>Hey these crisis actors take part in drills
>This obviously means they are being used to stage shootings and false flag attacks!
You're an idiot.
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>>17038596

such amateur hour bullshit isn't it?
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>>17038601
you know these things will keep happening until they get what they want?
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There were drills on 9/11 and london bus and metro bombings, which both were trying to prevent such happenings, on the exact same day. Quite a coincidence dont you think?
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>>17038603

you are blind
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>>17038608
What's that, exactly?
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>>17038608

What do they want anon? Tell me what you think. I need a good fucking laugh.
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>>17038580
So you provided links that don't back up the claim at all.

And yet you are saying it backs it up by not backing it up?

Go ahead and post some evidence that they fake real events with these crisis actors.
Saying
>Crisis actors are real
>Therefore it proves false flag attacks
Is the stupidest logic I have ever seen.
How fucking dense are you?
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>>17038611
Actually, during every mass shooting, bombing, disaster, etc. There has been either military or a police drill taking place.

In Charleston, they were having a "domestic terrorist" drill the day before that Roof kid shot up the church.

There is actually a few compiled lists of all training exercises held by the government over the past few years, and upcoming ones.

I think the only exception has been Ferguson, they did not have a training course or drill near there. But everywhere else that comes to mind, they did. I'll see if I can find one of the lists.
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>>17038611
Are these drills announced before hand? and how long before?

It's possible those days are chosen because a sudden call about an actual attack might be seen as part of the drill which makes response times slower while everyone tries to work out what is going on and inform everyone taking part in the drill that this new information is not part of hte drill.
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>>17038627
>>Crisis actors are real
>>Therefore it proves false flag attacks

that's what you think is being said?

it is simply one bit of info that relates to how it can be done
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>>17038613
>>17038615
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4scF1ogXcB4
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>>17038664
Yeah.

If you can't explain it yourself, I'm discarding your opinion.
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>>17035626
It comes with the "4chan man" costume on eBay
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>>17038256
Wrong meme sorry guy.
Do not pass go, do not collect $200
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>>17038648
No. You are using this as evidence that the government use these actors to stage false flag events.
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>>17038701

evidence? you are crazy bro
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One World Under Lucifer
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>>17038725
Still aren't really explaining it.
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>>17038712
In the context of this discussion and thread topic "Crisis Actors" refers to actors used to pull of false flag events.

Presenting evidence of crisis actors is essentially saying "See! they are real! therefore false flags are real!"
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>>17038538
They aren't even scary as a low level esoteric society. There are more secretive Sufi lodges. Especially if you buy the "Muslims as terrorists" myth, then every khanqah and mosque is a secret rebel base.
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>>17038746

They're just chill as fuck old guys. If you ask them for work they'll give it to you, or hook you up with somebody looking for workers. Shit's actually pretty rad. /x/ is a bunch of nerds, you think they'd be excited to find old guys who give out side-quests, instead they act like they're up to human sacrifices. Shit's sad, man.
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-27789110
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>>17038746
>There are more secretive Sufi lodges
They have to be. Other Muslims see them as heretics and take great pleasure in killing them.
At least most people aren't that batshit about Masons anymore.
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>>17038748
There is a lot of good stuff, some of which can be applied to everyday life and others to the esoteric. Masonry in some ways makes good men better. People shouldn't use it to get away with serious crimes or a traffic ticket, because that gives proof to the idiots who fear it. Good masons are good people usually. No need to fear the unknown.
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http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/12/3/gun-lobby-billions-political-influence.html

any restrictions on gunlaws is nonsense. all the anti-gunlaw rhetoric comes from the E.U.
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>>17038757
>Good masons are good people usually.
It makes good men better. It can't make a bad man good.
Which is why there's a perceived drop in numbers. Finally ditching the bad members.
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>>17038760
So you're of the opinion that there should be no suitability or competence checks?
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>>17038393
Autists can be face blind, so they fall for crisis actor bullshit.
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>>17038768
Owning a gun is a god given right. You europeans can fuck off trying to act all high and mighty telling us to give up our GOD GIVEN RIGHTS
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>>17038791
TOP JEJ

Keep letting mentally unstable people buy guns then.

Keep letting incompetent people own guns when they shouldn't be trusted with a fucking plastic spoon.
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>>17038791
You don't need to give up guns, or have reasonable restrictions and licensing on them, but what's the harm in mental health checks, police backgrounds, and safety courses prior to purchase?
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>>17038799

Murica in a nutshell. If anything, the guns are a secret government plot to let the retarded herd thin itself out.
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>>17038791
Shootings in America this year: 120,453

Shootings in Europe this year: 1
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>>17038802
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

THE PATH TO MY MALLNINJA AR-15 WAS BUILT ON THE BODIES OF SCHOOLCHILDREN

SEMPER FI YOU FUCKING COMMIE
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>>17038808
But that isn't infringing. Why are you pro-nigger?
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>>17038811
Just fucking with you.

That's pretty much the reaction I got for asking the same question on /k/, though.
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>>17038806
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>>17038812
Fair enough. Sorry for taking the bait.
The resilience to safety courses, if nothing else, I find most perplexing.
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>>17038816
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for responsible gun ownership, but the keyword is responsible.

The only person I would 100% trust with a gun is myself, because I have no idea if the next guy knows what the fuck he's doing. I don't see why it'd be a bad thing to have mandatory safety and operational classes as part of a licensing system, along with background and mental checks.
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>>17038768
oh nah, there should be that.
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>>17038799
>>17038791
>>17038802
>>17038804
>>17038806
>>17038808
>>17038811
all of these posts are crowd-control for this thread
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>>17038839
having said that fuck the E.U.
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>>17038839
I'm just some random guy who isn't even from the US.

How fucking tinfoil are you?
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>>17038824
I can sorta see the bitching about background and mental health checks, because of the "shall not be infringed" crowd, who would probably not pass them.
But yea, safety courses as a requirement are in no way infringing (since they're guaranteed pass), and are just a good idea.
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>>17038853
>>17038859
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>>17038859
Prove me wrong, hombre.
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>>17038862
do ever question current events and mainstream narrative? or do you just spend your time yelling "tinfoil!" at people that do?
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>>17038876
If by "question current events" you mean "Do I think there's a global overarching plot to take over the world and that every bad thing that happens ever, from my cat dying to mass shootings, is orchestrated as part of this plot that only I and my fellow internet autists are enlightened enough to see straight through"? then I guess I don't.

I am fine with this.
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>>17038862
just sayin'
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>>17035603
How is this public shooting any different from the other ones that seem to happen on a weekly basis these days? Because some dude's square and compass hat? Is France moving to ban guns? Are they planning on disarming the police?

Also, Aurora means "luminous atmospheric phenomenon" and even spookier, "the dawn".

I'm sure other city names mean things as well.
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>>17038894
>everyone who disagrees with me is a government shill
>it is impossible for people on the internet to have an opinion different to mine
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>>17038839
Really? Awesome. There's me thinking I was contribootin, turns out I'm actually part of the ayylmaonati.
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Just a little background on my take on the situation, i do security and I also deliver newspapers in the early morning. Im kindof a nerd so i listen to NPR news radio while i throw the paper. I wont say exactly what paper i deliver for obvious reasons, but i also deliver WSJ, and the stories in the local paper and in WSJ didnt correlate. Local said 2 suspects.

Its weird cuz the radio says that there's only two suspects that were shot down, but today's WSJ says 2 killed 1 arrested.

I was watching a live interview with someone yesterday afternoon who saw the third person get taken down, she said "all you could really see was a bunch of police crowding on him and then all you could-" and they cut her off.

And on YouTube I saw a video of a bunch of unmarked suburbans getting directed into the situation by traffic cops.


Someone from the family named off the third person but it was some crazy ass Muslim name too..
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Bumping for a possible conspiracy
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Yes, it's definitely a conspiracy.

This definitely is not related to anything going on in the world today, and the numbers are definitely weird because the grand and powerful Illuminati is shit at doublechecking their misinfo before they propagate it, not because numbers are almost always inaccurate as soon as something happens.

Nope, just a conspiracy to take our guns, or whatever it is that they want to do.
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>>17038903
i think you and I both know that's not what's going on

step away from the keyboard, sir or mam
keep your hands where i can see them
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>>17038991
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B6lOPAvx1I
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>>17039009
>sir or mam

I'm a quadgendered biqueerious aquavulpineflower you shitlord, my pronouns are skwnk/szygzyg/AAAAUGH
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>>17039015
>and we're headed to San Bernardino
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i think we should do temporary gun control

we do gun control for like some number of months and see how it goes

but we revoke it afterwards even if it goes well, no funny stuff
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>>17039030
no i don't give a shit about you or what you feel your forced to see
>>
http://strawpoll.me/6168145/r
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Would you trust yourself with a gun?

I fucking wouldn't. I'd be shooting at random shit just for the fun of it.

>"put the kettle on dear"
Bang! Done.
>"jehovahs witness at the door"
Bang! Not any more.
>"can you open this jar"
Bang! What jar?
>"do we have to watch football?"
Bang! Stfu bitch I'm watching football.
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>>17039102
And that's just the little things. God forbid if an intuder broke into my home.

They would leave with a lead face.
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>>17039102
no reason to have one, unless I take up hunting. But I would just put it away some where.

shooting random shit is what bb guns/ect are for. shit that can't hurt you.
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>>17039015
>>17039026
San Bernardino is less than an hour away from LA, which is where the band is from.
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>>17035526
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_legislation_in_Germany
>>
It only makes me more suspicious when the thread becomes absolutely full of people saying variations of "fuckin' tinfoils man xD" and attempts to derail discussion.

Why can't you just let people talk about it? Does it hurt you to have tinfoil-tippers babbling on about it in their own thread?
>>
>>17039156
This is 4chan.

When are people ever allowed to just "talk about it" without le ebin trolers?
>>
>>17039156
Why should you be left to circle jerk your stupid conspiracies?

You are literally saying
>Either agree with what we say or gtfo
You don't want anyone to point out flaws in your arguments, or provide counter evidence. You just want people to confirm what you already believe.

Fuckin' tinfoils man xD
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