Can we get military webms? Movies, games, real wars, anything military related.
>>879850
Love that A10 Warthog in the background
https://youtu.be/LOQGUETQK1g
>>879850
>>879916
What's point? It just makes people fear war comming which is very big posibility
>>879862
>MI gets deployed via ships and not via pods
What a shit movie.
>>880013
some of us enjoy looking at these for various reasons.
>>879892
Made a WebM
>>879917
What were they shooting at? and why?
>>880511
South African police shooting at unarmed striking miners.
>>880521
Why were they charging the police?
>>879917
Oh shit, i think i remember this, anyone got details?
>>880521
>Unarmed
Machetes and knives and axes oh my.
The police were greatly outnumbered as well.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
>>880533
The hint is in South African and miners
>>880016
>deploy regular infantry in an asset you have to recover instead of in a drop ship than can make multiple runs and evac soldiers if required
It was a shit movie and completely strayed from the books meaning, but god damn it was so bad it was good.
>>880650
>that sound
Holy shit
>>879866
>being shot at with high power rifles
>still laughing and joking carefreely
what the fuck
>>880521
They were armed with many melee weapons and had killed someone earlier. Good thing they were wasted.
>>881377
YOLO
>>880561
It was a miner strike in South Africa I believe.
The miners charged police, some armed with knives/sticks, others not, and the police opened fire to protect themselves.
>>881580
this is really well made
>>880521
>>880561
Marikana massacre.
Miners were protesting, company didn't like that, call in corrupted police to make sure the miners are scattered and end the protest. They're still investigating the thing, and a lot of powerful people are connected so it's problably going to take a few more years.
Just another fucking day in Africa.
>>881587
>charged police
They never did.
One policeman opened fire and everyone was running away. Some miners had killed a security guard or two a few days before the massacre though, so they're not entirely guilt-free.
It was a fucking mess.
>>881739
> Running away
All those people are clearly running directly at the police, holding up weapons. Just stop.
>>881729
>defending yourself against a mob armed with numerous melee weapons that actually murdered someone earlier
>massacre
>>880496
How majestic is BRRRRRT in real life?
>>881593
I never understood this scene.
Why the fuck did they march in the broad daylight while the allies had total air sovereignty over germany?
Oh and to top it all they're just singing a song so that everyone in the perimeter can hear them
Fuck that movie
>>881871
>Thats the least of the movie's problems
>every fifth or so soldier has AT weapon
>they do not use it once
>>881881
that is actually somewhat accurate, various pieces of AT equipment were terribly underused in WW2 because soldiers were not instructed on how to use them.
>>881871
you could also ask why they didn't surround the tank instead of fucking advancing towards it from just one side
>>881884
they are ss senpai
>>880485
Higby? Where?
>>881914
You don't see it too well in that segment, but the guy's face looks like it's modelled after Higby, and Higby played NC himself.
>>879917
What was this?
>>881923
Read the thread.
>>881925
Found it
>>879850
>>881977
>>881846
they dindu nuffin! Dey was gud boys!
>>879866
>Oh shovel, you betrayed me
>>879866
>hey lets show the enemy where we are, it will be hilarious!
Complete fucking morons.
>>882033
>let's put out a decoy rather than step out ourselves and get shot!
>morons
Anon, go home
>>880496
Fuckin' A. Thanks mate!
>>882033
Stop playing COD mate.
>>881583
Pretty accurate
Fuck Hohols
>>881914
wat
>>881729
They shoted first mate.
>>882033
>>882148
I'm not sure about these combat video
Not sure if they're the Syrian army or the Yemen army.
Cпacибo Пyтин
Cпacибo Acaд
t. Meкcикaнcкий
C-RAM Time
Have some Combat Mission
>>882181
>>881608
what is even happening in this
>>882187
A Zombie movie
Zombie eating a soilder, not much.
>>882185
Not sure if GAU-8 or C-RAM
>>882195
C-RAM
>>882194
> That filename
Perfectly accurate
>>882197
Thanks
>>882194
>>882223
>>881881
Yeah, that shit was proper retarded and makes the director look like a fucking amateur
>Show many scenes of SS troops carrying AT
>All these guys suddenly vanish in the ambush scene
>That scene where 'oh shit we better get out AT out of the boxes'
>>882127
kek filename
>>882228
>>882242
>>880582
What's this from?
>>882245
Why are there no shadows? It makes the game look pretty trash desu
>>882259
There are. Look at the hedge as the guy crosses (slides) over it.
Also its overcast so they're not a prominent.
>>882259
What game is this?
>>882263
Well the crouched guy for instance has no shadow or dark area around him or where his feet meet the ground. Theres no ambient shadows or anything
>>882277
There is a faint shadow under him, and you notice it if you turn the shadows on and off with the hotkey
The game isn't meant to be a graphic powerhous anyways. Its a niche game made and developed on its own engine by a small company.
>>882266
Combat Mission: Battle for Normandy
There's a bunch of them. Italian front, late eastern front, hypothetical 2017 war between Russia and USA/Ukraine. Battle of the Bulge is coming out in about a month.
>>879866
God my sides
>>882324
Why can't someone make a WWII anime that's actually serious. Like Jin roh but a war movie on the eastern front or something.
No little girls. No paranormal/unusual shit. Just a normal war movie.
>>882336
Pay for it then.
>>882336
Because the JPs got wrecked in real war.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoAdIau8S2M
>>882218
Anyone know the song in this?
>>882336
Anime died years ago when they found out they can make the most money from appealing to autists who spend their NEET bux on shitty merchandise from shallow fan-service-based shows.
I was actually pretty surprised at the new Gundam actually being decent in that respect, though the character design is stupid as shit, aesthetically.
>>882357
the birth of darth tanker
>>882357
Guess he could read the darker version of cute girls doing cute tank things.
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/883224/813c49309a/
>>882361
I dunno anon. They plugged him a few times after he rolled out of the tank. I don't think the suit covers that.
I would kill for a modern, serious military drama anime. Gundam: I.B.O. is alright, but it's just not the same as stuff like LOGH or Area 88.
>>882369
I guess. But I mean, all the lesbo shit is so cheesy and you just can't take it seriously at that point. The theme is just unsalvageable. Why would schools be hosting tank battles? Why would it be a bunch of girls, of all people? Why would everyone be okay with sending their kids off to die in a fake war? Why does everyone have German or Russian pride when they are all Japanese? The whole thing is just silly as shit and in the anime the tank combat isn't even 'decent', it's cartoony as hell. The entire selling point is the girl's bodies and cheesy anime personalities, with or without actual violence.
>>882108
hahaha what the fuck
>>882124
This is testing footage. You can't just put bombs in a case and it work. These kinds of tests are done on every kind of bomb, and the majority of shapes actually fail this way. Best to test with duds.
>>882430
Series is wings over vietnam
>>882431
>>882431
>>882430
>>881821
Right.
They charged at a force with automatic weapons. Right. I when you charge people you're supposed to cower like they were obviously doing too right?
No, what happened was that a police officer disobeyed orders and fired onto the crowd. The people reasonably began to panic. The officers in the video that started shooting were spooked by the gunfire and sudden movement from the crowd and fired on them. The crowd wasn't charging the police, but they were fleeing from gunfire to begin with.
>>882433
>>882431
>>882430
>>882435
>>882433
>>882431
>>882430
>>879916
source on song, the edit not the original
>>882502
Dang. I want the source to that song.
>>882503
No problem.
Koutev Bulgarian National Ensemble Bre, Petrunko (Ho! Dear Petroona) (HD)
>>882504
Thanks, anon.
>>882513
>Get shelled all the time during my deployment.
>No one reacts remotely like that.
>Half the time we have to be yelled at to actually bother getting in concrete shelters if we're even on a FOB with shelters to begin with.
>Usually just broke out smokes and just waited for counter battery to slap Mahdi shit.
Damn, Marines. Army is going to have to pull your man-card for this one. It only sounds like a single fucking mortar too. Maybe they were POG's or something. Hell, even POGs don't act like that if they are on a FOB that gets shelled regularly like Warhorse or Balad(Which even had the nickname 'Mortarita-ville').
I have a feeling the one sitting there crying and blubbering got stuck on permanent TOC duty the rest of the deployment. Even one of the guys there told him to shut the fuck up unless he's actually hit.
>>882133
Is taking the muzzle device off really necessary?
>>882177
>suppressed PKM
Hello boner, my old friend
>>880485
Planetside 2 was a fucking betrayal of the original concept and FPS mechanics in general.
>>882742
Sony told SOE to get the game out one year too early, nothing much they could do other than damage control at that point.
The new producer seems to know what he's doing though, but it might be too little too late to save it.
everytime we have these threads there is always so russiaboo loser who spams his fucking propaganda
>>882436
>Footage from several different angles shows that the police were pushing the strikers into a small area. Groups of strikers began singing struggle songs, and marched along police lines. The police fired teargas and rubber bullets into these groups. At least one person in one group shot a handgun at the police. Members of this group either panicked or deliberately charged at a police line which sparked off the shooting.
Is what Wikipedia says. I'm assuming it's this incident:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marikana_killings
>>882251
Ukraine
>>882462
Le Gang des ours - you don't know
>>882728
Not at all.
Sometimes helps to get the cleaning rod out.
>>880582
who vs who ?
>>881582
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39SWZntAA9k&feature=youtu.be
>>881617
No way this guy still have functional ears if this was real. Plus the barrel and frame becomes extremely hot.
>>883441
This was a legit improvised way of using the MG42, obviously you wouldn't do it for long.
>>883441
As long as you keep you face downward it's fine. The helmet at that angle deflects the noise somewhat. I've had people's muzzles close to my head myself, if you angle your head the right way a helmet deflects the noise.
>>882504
Oh man I did this during a training demo in front of senior instructors. I thought I was doing so well until I face planted.
>>882119
fckin pikeys man
>>883485
Now that's just rediculous
>>883574
t. small dick American
>>882513
That's embarrassing
>>882154
>misses
>>883485
I love everything about it
>>882173
pretty sure that's artillery, breh
>>883555
God I can't wait for that DCS module. Leatherneck needs to hurry up and take my money. Sexiest fucking plane the US ever made.
>>882033
Its a prank on their comrades bro
>>882513
>Obama's Military
>>883775
This is old as fuck. It's from Bush era.
>>880650
Requesting the WebM where there is terrorist stuff at first but then it switches to terrorists getting blown up while sabaton is playing
>>883447
Depends on the suppressor, some are built well enough to function while red hot.
>>879916
any youtube link?
>>881377
war gives you either ptsd or insanity
>>882911
thank fucking god i've been looking for this
>>879916
i think it's one of the most beautiful video about war
>>883584
The burgerstanis aren't really the ones treating this thread like a dick measuring contest anon.
>>882110
Kek
>>883792
but y tho
>>882504
>Airsoft
>>882355
a bit late, but I think it's this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncckxAjp8uY
>>884041
what game?
>>884185
squad
>>880475
Listened to it twice to make sure, but the timing is a little off on that gun. Shooting just a tad bit too fast.
>>882189
what movie is this?
>>884239
It's not a movie
It's the real call from Chernobyl nuclear plant to the firefighters station.
>>882911
Thank you happy new years
>>882181
fallschirmjäger so based
>>884203
Timing is off?
Do mounted machine guns have timing belts like car engines now?
>>884041
phly posted this vid yesterday
Actually, yes. Not belts, mind you, but part of setting up an M2 to operate requires you to insert the barrel within a specific amount of 'clicks', and then take a special tool called a 'head space and timing key' at two points of the bolt assembly to, well, do exactly what the tool name suggests: Ensure the head space of the assembly is at a very specific width with one thick key, and then a second, much thinner one is inserted at a separate point as you pull the trigger to make sure the timining is set right(I might have the trigger part mixed up between the two, I got out years ago.)
The more you know.™
>>884813
>>884203
With so many M2s in use, and the amount of time that has passed since they were introduced, the fire rates on them can vary like crazy. It isn't a big deal as long as the gun doesn't explode.
The new M2A1 that they're upgrading to has fixed headspace and timing, so you never have to go through it after a barrel change.
>>880496
I also, made a webm
>>884826
Neat. Yeah, they're all old as fucking dirt. You can easily find some in the service that were in use as far back as 1920. As old as they are, the design hasn't really been touched the entire time with the exception of the ammunition, and the weapon itself is perhaps the sturdiest piece of military equipment I've ever seen(As in, it will fire, but not always the most reliably.).
Thing is riddled with all sorts of stupid 'quality of life' problems, though. The biggest being head space and timing, and the second biggest being the bolt assembly when it comes to breaking it down and putting it back together. There is a specific piece that, for some reason unknown to me, can be configured in an alternate setup(Possibly for feeding from the right instead of the left, such as in AA mounts) that apparently the Army doesn't really deem fit to properly explain to junior enlisted, leading to the occasional accidental assembly in the wrong configuration that prevents proper loading.
While watching yesterdays fireworks i remembered how boring they are compared to a night training shooting
>>884044
How you will colect this oil?
Not sure, but I think it's mixed with something, and it makes it bad, so firing it up is only solution
>>881377
Russians
>>885040
Those are Syrians.
>>882127
Shit they have tanks now
>>879866
Kekd so fucking hard, thank you anon, and thank god for wars
>>883806
i got your back bro
>>885006
Sounds like that fucker needs some freedom bombs.
>>884041
Eyyy, DDG
>>882170
They heated the plate from inside to show just how hot it can get in Africa for the homefront.
>>885006
Only thing worse than culturally ignorant Amerifats prattling on about hypocritical values of "freedom," is Russaboos going full edgemode to justify their collective cucky Stockholm Syndrome for retarded tyrants.
>>882251
>>884822
I think the guy is playing the OpFor during a russian blank fire training exercise
if you pause at 17 seconds you can clearly see a blank fire adaptor on the cameraman's rifle (russian BFAs are unpainted metal unlike NATO ones which are painted bright colours)
that might also explain why he is wearing british DPM camouflage
>>881582
At .14 you can see a guy trying to fire a mortar by putting the charge/missle/whatever wrong way in.
>>882176
>GET SOME FUCKING EGGS HERE NOW
>>884044
it seals the oil well somehow
>>885040
SAA m8
>>885097
t. Amerishit
>>884842
HOLY FUCK
>>885153
The best part is that is a russian plane
>>885039
>Not sure, but I think it's mixed with something, and it makes it bad, so firing it up is only solution
If it's sour oil/gas it will contain lots of toxic gasses like hydrogen sulfide which can collect in low spots and kills you dead before you know your in trouble.
Flaring the gas/oil burns the toxic gasses it and makes everything safer.
When they want to cap the well putting the fire out is not much of an extra expense.
>>885006
what is this retarded shit?
>>885489
No, it's not.
>>882462
Thanks anon.
>>885530
Yes, check the source.
>>885521
Ayyy The Gringo is triggered by the truth
>>885580
did you even watch it?
>>885521
Russian propaganda that /pol/tards gobble up like the retarded middleschoolers that they are.
>>885583
I have that video in 1080p in my computer, you burger.
Stay mad.
>>885584
> Russian propaganda
t. Ameriburger
>>885591
Haha wrong filename.
>>885585
>i am russia "occupant"
>i dont like your "western value"
cool story bro
what facts? it's shit.
>>885521
>>885097
>>885150
>>885584
Enjoy, Amerishits.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHfBIO-alTI
>>885593
>what facts?
Let me ask you.
Do you even watched it entirely?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7PpdYil-7Y
Have some more brrrt.
>>885599
it says nothing about "the truth"
all it says ti "i dont liek your western values i have other interests.
COOL STORY
somehow that equates to the truth in your little mind
>>885022
Night battles are pretty.
>>885591
nice try but I'm not an American, I'm just not an edgy teenager anymore :^)
>>885609
>COOL STORY
Stay mad.
>>885615
> I'm not an American
Yes you are.
If not in nationality, in IQ status.
>>885376
That's germans for ya...
>>885625
> This triggers /pol/
>>885627
> bait
Yes, keep telling this, but this don't change the facts. Stay mad.
>>885616
>wwII
>AK47s on display
>clearly cold war propaganda
Yeah, no.
>>885636
It's a sovietic movie about WW2
Why does this trigger you so much?
>le ebin trole
Pls.
>>885096
You've done a good thing anon
>>885720
>2ch
Jesus, you can smell the slavshits in this thread.
>>885743
yep
>>882295
everyone loves whiskey pete
>>883775
Recorded during Bush's reign
>>881980
did he died?
>>885781
yep, blood clot formed, he ded nao
>>880475
What a waste
That's $1/round
>>885743
>>885746
>Amerihits jelous of the mater race
Haha!! Go away and eat a burger
>>885874
>Russia
>4 digit per capita GDP according to the IMF, less than some African nations
>50th in HDI
>master race
>>885874
>mater race
>>885874
i'll eat 2 bugers... just for you anon.
>>885929
Nice to know
>>885489
what song
>>886058
Зaщитники Дoнбacca - ''Moя лaдoнь пpeвpaтилacь в кyлaк''
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyCD3LqfbJ8
Canción: Кyкyшкa - Пoлинa Гaгapинa
>>886074
>Canción
Song*
>>886074
>posting the heavily edit propaganda version
it is cool but the real thing is cooler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuPX8mjeb-E
>>886294
with sub
>>885874
That's a British ship
>>885037
I know I have heard this song before. Can't place it. Anyone have sauce?
>>886342
The HMS Barham, right?
>>879866
>filename
Why noone real cheeki breeki sounds when they show it
>>885579
>B-52
>Russian
Choose one, you retard.
>>879917
It was when the miners at one of south Africa's biggest mines went on strike and stormed towards the police and they panicked an open fired on miners sticks.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marikana_killings
>>886490
Kavinsky- Rampage.
>>886493
yes
>>882176
>C-RAM
love those things. also, my fresh-encoded video to con3boot (requests to cut/encode accepted if worth encoding)
>>885580
You know not everyone injecting vodka up their ass like slavaboos doesn't make them burgerstanis right?
Amerifats and their shitty, hypocritical love of self-delusional freedom and mindless self-destructive indulgences is one thing. Russkifags going bootlicking and whining about the glory days in their vodka potato soup because they're literally too cucked or too retarded to function without a strongman calling the shots is another.
It's possible to call out both forms of faggotry ya dingus.
>>885598
American imperialism is bad and so is Russian imperialism. You're pushing this idea that people should be happy to jump into your borsht flavored pile of shit instead of the cheeseburger one when they're both piles of shit.
>>886781
not him, but its NOT a B-52
hope you get punched in the face
>>882213
W-whats the nasheed?
>>885679
Country? Because there's a million things that can go wrong with that auto loader. You just know someone's lost a sleeve or arm to that thing.
>>885667
That is spooky as hell to watch. Amazing how close we came to that.
>>885667
You're abusing that trigger word mate, putting AKs in a WW2 movie is shit for brains tier no matter who you are.
>>887159
Beats me. It's a soviet self-propelled artillery with a handful of current operators.
The kid is the spitting image of an ukrainian colleague I've once had though so I'll go with that.
>>887129
What is it then? Oh, you don't actually know. Eat your own ass.
>>881585
>CallofDuty3.webm
>>882152
Creating flood of refugees in Europe step: 1
>>887187
>refugees
Economic migrants you mean.
>>881583
Name of the song?
>>881881
On top of that, the moment they realized the tank was disabled, they would have simply bypassed it.
>>887129
Yeah but those are American munitions.....
>>887396
I take that back, it looks like a French or British equivalent of the mk82
but since the bombs don't have ring air foils, there is no chance of them being Russian
>>882213
You can see the editing for fucks sake
>>887167
>implying that the Russians didn't invent the first AKs
>being this assblasted
>>885781
he slipped on ice
>>887494
I like the teleporting explosions.
>>882423
That's not how you do R&D.
At the point where you have live tests you must already be at a very late stage and nearing the prototype.
You think they strap untested shit to airframes?
They do have wind tunnels for the early stuff. THOSE test usually go two ways: nothing happens or you have to shut down the tube for a week for repair.
In this case, most of those incidents are related to impeding airflow and turbulence caused by the airframes. Things which are really hard to test in a wind-tunnel.
And there you have it. Don't spew nonsense.
>>887448
>Getting flashbacks of Sadr
Feels bad, man.
>>887514
They invented the first ak's long after ww2 ended
You idiot
>>887514
I'm going to assume you mean 'assault rifle', and not 'first AKs' like a retard.
Germany invented the first 'assault rifle', which the AK-47 was largely based on. Hell, you could almost argue that the BAR was technically the first(The only reason it isn't is because of it's cartridge).
>>881593
Could we get a Erika edit?
>>882187
Stalker:Shadow of Chernobyl
>>882218
ride up against extremism my fellow anon, we must fight against all forms especially Islam
>>884171
u r god
>>882273
no not really, the kurds and Russians are who I work with ton on a daily basis, Im 1N2X1 in Signal Intel USAF here in Kandahar Afghanistan. We are here fighting so ISIS doesn't go there and wipe your ass off the planet for liking anime or trannies
>>882322
Show? looks cool as fuck
>>887572
Nigger, I'm not even him but you're acting like half of the Eastern countries didn't start making their own kinds of AKs with heavy or minimal modification after the initial designs were dispersed.
Bulgaria, China, Finland, Israel, more Finland, Czechs if you can pretend a vz58 is similar only using the shape of the rifle...
China, Egypt,
>>887693
Forgot to remove the China and Egypt at the bottom but you understand.
>>887646
>We are here fighting so ISIS
Nice meme
>>887678
> He doesn't think like me
> He's butthurt
Ok.
>>887715
He thinks like a sub-human russkiboo and lashes out at anyone laughing at his shitty propaganda thinking they're all amerifats because they've convinced themselves the only people who don't like Russian bullshit are yanks.
>>887514
WW2: September 1939 - August 1945
AK47: Avtomat Kalashnikova model of 1947
The rifle was still being designed when the second world war ended.
>>887693
>all post-war
You really didn't get what he was saying, did you.
>post-war design clearly seen, name your file WW2 anyway
baka desu senpai
>>882336
>Saw some Jin Roh webms on /pol/
>Torrent the shit out of it.
>Hyped for some Nazi Nippon action.
>It's a fucking political intrigue movie.
>tfw
>>887647
>He doesn't know Girls und Panzer.
OC
>>888035
>Nazi nippon action
Seems pretty redundant.
Regardless, the movie is pretty good. I'm honestly rather glad it didn't go all /pol/tard and suck the dick of fascism passive aggressively. If you want a war movie in anime, you're assed out. Japan is vehemently anti-war ever since the nukes dropped. You'll never get a war anime. Let alone one that isn't chock-full of childish preaching about pacifism.
The movie itself has some really good action anyway, so I don't see what you're complaining about.
>>887647
It's moe-shit with airsoft tanks as a tacked on gimmick. Don't bother.
>>888035
You're not implying that's a bad thing, are you?
>>888259
We've seen it.
>>888260
I know I was retartet everyone have a laugh please
>>885006
edgyyy
>>886058
it's a Kino song remixed.
Thats what I have here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bUYZFzRk-4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFD6Nuocf-4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJqCC8MBR9w
>>882225
checked
>>889195
Wow these are all shit.
Thanks for the contribution
>>883463
TR shitty spotted
>>888460
It' poland
LAST
Hi Archive people!!
>>887339
"Grün ist unser Fallschirm" (Our Parachute is Green), moto song of the German airborne forces.
>>890142
Not so soon.
>>889802
Not our uniforms, man at the start speaks russian btw
>>882195
The Iron Dome. Wicked shit
>>891540
Historical time scale is relative to how much happens that year, not actual time lapse, it may have only been 2 years but those were some pretty big years
>>880650
the old guy walking away from it doesn't even give a flinch for fuck
>>888460
In full metal jacket they sing the Micky Mouse song, what song would they sing if the movie was remade today?
>>882189
Could you the decipher the slav runes for us?
>>891840
Too much text m8, its the calls of the locals to the firefighters. From the various people.
When Chernobyl just started to melt.
>>888460
obviously they're being hazed
>>888077
Holy fuck, it's already 20 years..
Why society can't be without a single war atleast for 50 years
>>892358
because no one will make any money dude.
>>887563
Anyone got the Iraq war version of this? And is there an WWII version as well? I've never seen one but I would not be surprised if there were one.
>>883441
There are plenty of pictures of MG-42 gunners doing that, its kind of iconic.
>>882146
this music gives me boner because of miss alice
>>882146
Those are USN fighters, m8.