What is your opinion on the list of retro zones they went with

I'd call out spoilers, but I'm pretty sure the original manuals had a list of levels.

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>>4190102
> Green Hill
> Chemical Plant
> Hydrocity
> Flying Battery

That list aligns disturbingly with what I would have asked for; I guess I'm a pleb

>>4190102
Oil Ocean is an odd choice, but eh.

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I'd prefer all new zones with 0 remakes.

And did they really have to "remix" GHZ for the 9999th time?

>>4190102

Should have put in Sandopolis, but all the cerebral palsy retards would complain that it's """too hard""".

Everything except Oil Ocean I'd consider classic stuff, so it's all good with me.

>>4190151

I would too but it's probably a Sonic Team mandate to 'sell more copies' or something, doesn't seem like something Taxman came up with on his own. Hopefully the (presumably) positive response the original zones get will lead to a second game with nothing recycled.

>>4190145
i hate that freaking level

>>4190102
>Green Hill Zone
Generic choice, but decent zone.

>Chemical Plant Zone
Good zone.

>Flying Battery Zone
Great zone.

>Stardust Speedway Zone
Shit zone.

>Hydrocity Zone
Shit zone.

>Oil Ocean Zone
Really shit zone.

>Lava Reef Zone
Good zone.

>Metallic Madness Zone
Shit zone.

I'm not too impressed; could've picked better stages like Spring Yard, Casino Night, Wacky Workbench, Ice Cap, or Death Egg. They also didn't pick enough Sonic 3 levels, though granted most are shit like Carnival and Marble Garden.

>>4190102
Honestly with how different they are the new versions of these stages have only the aesthetic in common with the originals. All the people complaining haven't ever played the stages in question, just the originals, and so judging them on gameplay that you haven't seen yet is pointless.

>>4190102
NO
METROPOLIS
ZONE

LITERALLY FOR WHAT PURPOSE

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WHY did they bring back the worst part of Sonic 2???

>>4190151
Maybe if mania is successful enough, a sequel with 100% original levels will get made. Though I doubt they'd be able to make it have as many levels as mania, unless they reuse assets.

>>4190316
>hydrocity
>shit

Maybe if your tastes are shit

>>4190340
Aquatic Ruin is the superior water stage, since you can avoid the water by being good at platforming. Whereas with Hydro City, you HAVE to go through the shitty water sections.

>>4190353
But you speed through the water sections in Hydrocity to the point that they might aswell not be water sections.

>>4190102
Disapointed with the choices.
They had the chance of remaking the "bad" zones into good ones, but instead went with the popular choice.
Only one zone from Sonic 1. wtf?
At least they got Oil Ocean.

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>>4190316

>Hydrocity and Stardust
>Shit

I can't even fathom how you can have taste so bad.

>all these Hydrofags

Seriously? It's not even that aesthetically pleasing of a level.

>>4190431
Look, we get it. You have shit taste.

>>4190334
>What is Metropolis Zone

>>4190434
It's ok, not everyone can have taste as good as mine. You go like your rubbish water levels, lad.

I rather love Oil Ocean, dunno why everyone's called it shit.

>>4190353
Aquatic ruin is boring as shit.

>>4190431
>hydrofags
do we really need to add a -fag suffix to everything?

>>4190431
>hydrocity
>not aesthetically pleasing
What?

>>4190545
Just a bunch of brown tiles, what is this, Rondo of Blood?

>>4190353
Only noobs avoid the water
https://youtu.be/k0Z9_27VWlo

>>4190640
Sorry, I don't watch autism.

>>4190431
what a terrible opinion.

you probably think it's pronounced 'hydro-city' instead of 'high-dross-ity' lmao

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>this is what /VR/ considers to be good level design

TOP. KEK.

>>4190353
>superior water stage, since you can avoid the water

Would that mean Green Hill the best water stage because theres no water to be found except in the background?

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>>4190353
>Aquatic Ruin is the superior water stage
Best water stage from best Sonic game coming through.

>>4190687
>hold right to win
>Sonic is all about speed
The level is majestic. Get over it.

>>4190102
why the fuck are there more old stages than new?

and before the fanboys say something, remember all Act 1's are the same

Reminder that Sonic & Knuckles is the only good classic Sonic game because it features no water levels.

>>4190772
But it has Sandopolis which is horrid despite banging music

>>4190771
>all Act 1's are the same
They only start off the same by the end of the act its been different

Kek, they added 8-bit Sonic 2 bubbles to Hydro City.

>>4190715

I thought I was the only one!

>>4190102
I don't see Marble Zone so we're all good!

>tfw no wacky workbench

I'm tired of playing the same zones for the last 20+ years.
I'm not interested in Mania. Yeah, it does look good while modern Sonic is pure shit, some of the level and enemy design is amazing like the battle against Metal Sonic, but it brings nothing new. It's a 20 year old rehash done by developers that can do nothing but rehash an old game.

>>4191260

Except it's not.

>>4191287
Then what it is?

>>4191294
The old levels are only "old" in name only. They are like totally new levels with new shit that was never in any of the games before.

>>4191479
And how this makes the game not a rehash? It's just new levels for an old game, a glorified romhack. A really good one.
Even the sprites were drawn over 20 year old ones.

I want a real sequel. Give me better graphics, with animation, at least, on SFIII level (it's also 20 year old game), add something interesting, maybe branching paths leading to different stages in each playthrough, maybe even a new playable character like Amy.

>>4190102
>GHZ
needs to stop getting its dick sucked so hard by Sega, fuck
>CPZ
good shit, but we already had it represented in Generations
>FBZ
pretty cool
>SSZ
stage is pretty naff in CD, the Mania layout looks much less retarded, loads of changes
>HCZ
I'm glad it's in, but from what I've seen of the layout, it doesn't look as enjoyable. Less of an even wet/dry mix, takes design cues from fucking Labyrinth for some reason.
also, this stage brings to mind the fact that Mania doesn't have enough water (GHZ2 has water, CPZ has a tiny bit of water, and then there's Hydrocity, and that's it)
>OOZ
no one asked for this, but it doesn't look too bad in Mania
act 2 takes some design cues from Sandopolis 2
>LRZ
good shit
>MMZ
see, I've always liked Metallic Madness, and the Mania layout looks great.

dumb shit: I wish all of the returning stages had updates as drastic as the Sonic CD stages. Completely new music, new gimmick in both acts, stage design that feels like it's actually different.
OOZ 1 is really similar as it was in Sonic 2 -- layout has clear changes, but it's still a very similar layout overall. FBZ 1 feels pretty similar. FBZ 2 takes a bunch of Wing Fortress design cues that I'm not sure I'm happy about.
GHZ 1 changes a bit, but half the act is literally taken directly from original GHZ.

Oil Ocean really should have been replaced with Mystic Cave.

>>4190687
>complaining about platforming in a platformer
wew

>>4190334
it's iconic as fuck
but really, fuck Sky Chase, it's so boring
seriously, Knuckles gets his own stage with 10/10 music for MSZ act 1, I'm kind of mad about this shit

>>4190332
the game already has too many city/industrial themed levels

>>4191479
Not really, it takes old level designs and expands on them. Like the last part of HCZ act 2 is pretty much the same as on Megadrive.

>>4190771

All Act 1's aren't the same but it is disappointing, I was hoping it would be an even split of old/new. They already did this 'old but different' shit with Generations and as well done as they are it feels like a cop-out at times.

>>4192253
Well, originally it was just going to be Sonic 1&2 mobile ports to PC, plus a small 4-5 level game that consists of new zones. I kinda like it the way we got better, though.

>>4190471
It's confusing and you progress by running left at a few points, and if you get confused and jump down or just fall you have to retrace your steps, so people might have bad memories of it and it makes them continue disliking it. I personally think it's great but I like Metropolis Zone too

>>4190471
Oil Ocean is one of my favorite tracks from Sonic 2

i hope Chemical Plant Zone will be somewhat fun, it totally sucked in S2

>>4192370
The boss fight is Puyo Puyo

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>>4191887
Naw, even if they did all that you'd still find some nitpicky flaw to whine about. You big babby.

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>>4191887
This is why you shouldn't listen to old fans. Insufferable cunts.

>>4192373
that would make me happy

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>>4191887
>>4192394
better gif

>>4191887
dude, in a perfect world SEGA japan would be closely monitoring the s mania sales, and who knows maybe they even ask yuji naka to create a true sonic 4 in glorious hand drawn 2d, who knows, never say neverrrrr....

>>4192404
>yujew naka
The guy responsible for Sonic Adventure 2 and Shadow the Hedgehog? No, thanks.

>>4192408
Iizuka is responsible for that shit, not Naka.

>>4192408

Haha fucking what, he literally LEFT SEGA during Shadow the Hedgehog. He wanted so little to do with it (and the ensuing direction) he got the fuck outta dodge. lizuka's the guy you're thinking of, Naka was special thanks-tier in the 3D era.

>>4192404
>>4192408
>>4192454
>>4192480
Does Naka even work for Sega anymore?

Knowing how fickle the games industry is, he probably got stuck working on mobile games or pachislot bullshit.

>>4192547
he has his own company that does freelance work, would be NP for SEGA to hire

>got collectors edition for physical copy
>no physical game, just a download code
SEEEEEGAAAAA

>>4192561
You got a physical game cart, though, anon.

Nobody said shit about it being usable

>>4192404
>Not Hirokazu Yasuhara
Do you even Sega.

>>4191887
And what would any sequel be if new maps, new content, improved sprites, new music and new story STILL mean it's a rehash or rom hack?
Get some perspective you pissant.

>>4192561
>No physical game
The statue and cart makes it worth owning. Besides, downloading the game is instantly tied to your account forever. Which is how I was able to re-download my TMNT Turtles In Time Re-Shelled game on my new PS3, even though it's no longer available to buy on PSN.

>>4190751
>Neither of those apply
Its about keeping momentum, not speed, anon. If you go too fast, you'll get wrecked pretty quick.

Honestly all the game needed was dropping the retro stages. That's what scream romhack the most.

>>4193940
>>4194010
the cart is cool, although mine was apart. i just like having discs

>>4194181

The Act 2's are fucking dope though, the same gimmicks could have been done in original stages but it's still pretty neat. Looking at the very positive response to the game I actually think including the old zones was a marketing tactic that's paid off big time. Gives lapsed fans of the 90s a valid reason to check it out AND invests them in an all-original sequel, if they choose to go that route.

Is there any news on this getting a physical release?

I keep seeing rumours popping up, but nothing concrete.

>>4194623
Mania has too much old stuff in my opinion. Shame, as most of the new levels are really good.

Some of the remixes are great like Stardust and Chemical Plant, but Hydrocity and Oil Ocean are pretty lazy

Standalone, it's the best Sonic game. But it feels lazy compared to the older games. Even Call of Duty isn't rehashed this bad

Hope for a sequel

Hydrocity is one of my favorite Zones would have preferred Tidal Tempest but thats ok.

The only stage I didn't like was Oil Ocean. Mystic Cave would have been much better.

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I'm just glad they finally brought back Egg Robo.

Wish it had some themes from the Advance series.
https://youtu.be/QA9VOuIhofs?t=14m13s

>>4190102
My gut reaction is to ask for Ice Cap zone, but it probably isn't the best level basis when you put aside the baller music. Angel Island would also be redundant; it's my favorite classic intro level by far but I'm a 3&Kfag and Green Hill zone is kinda mandatory anyway.

>>4190145
I initially thought so too, but if you're going for 2 levels each from 4 games it's the best non-Chemical Plant choice.

>Emerald Hill is even more redundant than Angel Island
>Aquatic Ruin is the water level in a Sonic game so nobody really likes it
>Casino Night kinda-sorta overlaps with Studiopolis
>I was leaning Hill Top but it doesn't really have a theme beyond being in the mountains
>Metropolis is dull as fuck, Wing Fortress only really works as a near-the-end thing, and Death Egg is just boss fights

>>4196154
I dumbed and forgot that Sonic 1 only has 1 zone here while 3&K has 3 so it's not an even split, but if you're trying to be evenish my point still stands.

I also want to add that they easily picked the 3 best 3&K zones, I'd also include Angel Island (as I said earlier), Sky Sanctuary, and Mushroom Hill but then I'd be destroying any pretense of even representation.

I would have rather had all original zones, but i dont get the hate towards oil ocean i always thought it was really cool. Mystic cave is another one that I liked (the layout, not the graphics) that you guys probably dont like.

Sonic was always bad

>>4196161
I think they did it that way because Sonic 1 only had 6 zones, where as Sonic 3k had 14

>>4196186
I'm with you bro. Oil ocean and Mystic Cave were two of my favourites as a kid.

>>4196186
Hill Top is the patrician Sonic 2 zone.

Post your favorite underrated 2D Sonic songs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z99fLBRH9j8

>>4192556
Sega has a stupid unofficial policy of not working with people who've left Sega in any way.
it's not an official mandate, but they avoid it like hell for whatever reason

>>4198006
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wrna1ioqlU0