Why does the X68000 rock so hard? >has everything consoles

Those are floppys?

>>4159483
5.25 inch yes.

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>>4159483

>>4159478
>countless memorable shmups
>countless arcade ports
Aren't those less than 100?

>>4159501
No, theres more then that.

>>4159495
without zooming in the box looks like its full of CDs
Kill yourself

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>Dat Galaga 88 and Bosconian port

>>4159506
No it doesn't, that's asinine

>>4159562
Yes they do, I mean the CDs with paper cover
I dont really care about old PC retro other than the atari stuff I have
Sorry I didn't know about this jap PC

>>4159547
>Bosconian
YES

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCnaRFMoFLA

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>>4159478
>>4159683
I love sick x68 FM synth jams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R8lIOxxNpY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNnnwkH0KWI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgFk11w1e8E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_gL4nvoBbw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTYD7PKN5M8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz1TgAEhY9Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDDDPel3UnE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TqBiAXFZ4U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmbmI3mVRgs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11gJyOA3SyI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhZu47CwAo0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51FAKd5nrOg

Shit platform that was practically DOA. Amiga was better

>>4159478
>using your mom's shoe box to put your toys in

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>>4159483
>thinking an X68000 uses CDs

Kids these days. Lemme guess next he's gonna ask what iphone people used in the 80's right?

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>>4159947
>>4159947
FM Towns Marty >>>>>>>>>>>> x68shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTuHuUl75gc

>>4159919
No, it sold 16 million units during it's life, it was not DOA.

>>4159974
Despacito was streamed 450 million times, so it must be a good song

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>>4159947
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k53n_gLeXQ4
>>4159968
Debunked as seen here.

>>4159478
that looks real nice
what games on the screen?

>>4159478
>Is a PC
It sucks. Consoles are better & more convenient.

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>>4160045
>>4160045
Detana Twinbee

Eh, not better than consoles simply due to catalogue (ports are nice, but exclusives is what counts the most), but better than western PCs for sure.

>>4159947
>I'm a kid because I'm not a weeabo like you
Amiga is better

>>4160095
>Amiga better than X68000
And then amigafags ask why people make fun of them.

>>4159478

What are your most played games on this thing? I've been really interested in purchasing one for a while but I'm not seeing too much available for it as far as exclusives go. Cho Ren Sha is fucking awesome though.

>>4159981
>Comparing the success of a Japan-only computer priced at $3000 yet still managed to sell 16 million units
>To a song people don't have to pay anything to listen to

It's just an arcade port machine, good at that but consoles also had tons of solid arcade ports at a fraction the price.

>>4159478
Because it cost 5x as much as a neo geo

>>4160095
Nah, you're a kid because of your age and because you mistake 5 1/4s for CDs. And because you think the Amiga is better which means you're too young to have ever had one, and youropoor on top of that.

>>4160257
>Nah, you're a kid because of your age and because you mistake 5 1/4s for CDs.
Considering I used the word floppy from the start, I just thought they were CD because the paper on the left side of the picture looks like the ones used to store CDs
And I never said I owned an Amiga so you are making up stuff, I had an Atari

>>4159919
>>4159974
>>4160095
>>4160102
>>4160257
>>4160274
Why the fuck do you guys even respond to obvious Amiga bait made by some butthurt faggot who doesn't know shit of neither machines?

You guys like WANT and WAIT for shit like that to pop up to ruin a thread.

>>4159578
>Yes they do

No, they really don't.

>>4159578
You are literary underage.
What the fuck do you even know about Atari?

>pls be good bait response

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>>4160302
Fuck off

>>4160312
nope, can't see it, ones a half sleeve with a plastic disc popping out the other's a paper envelope
srsly underage if someone thinks 5.25" floppies are CDs

>>4160321
The paper in OP pic looks like the ones I posted
They look very similar
One is a piece of paper the other is a piece of paper with the same shape

>>4160274
I never said you said you had one. Reading comprehension kiddo. What Atari did you have? Flashback?

>>4160356
In the first place I didn't mistake a floppy with a CD
I thought the paper in the photo were CD holders similar to the ones here >>4160312
Are you gonna tell me they dont look the same too?

>>4159503
Can you give any more specific information to back that up?
https://refuge.tokyo/x68k/en/Shooting.html
https://refuge.tokyo/x68k/en/Arcade.html

>>4160368
Incomplete.

>>4160545
Then provide a more complete one.

>>4160552
Kinda hard finding english information for a Japanese machine that never was popular in the West.

>>4160102
A lot more better. On Amiga there was tons of good projects, not only primitive shmups and platformers like on chink computers

>>4160545
I'm fine with Japanese.
Op must have had some kind of data to make such claims.

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>>4160976
>Op must have had some kind of data to make such claims.
Not talking especially about you, but this is the level that /vr/ has fallen to, people here don't know shit about the things they talk, it's not that "oh, we used to play this or this" or "oh, I been playing with this again" like everyone interested in a topic should be.
It's people who never had contact with it who go on about "Hurr where is your proofs? I don't care you actually owned and played with it, I want proofs, I don't give a fuck but you said it so proooooofs!".
This isn't a sales site for old games where people try to sell youngsters and kids old games.

>>4160986
No, the problem are people sprouting bullshit and parroting false facts.
If you actually play x68000 you'll see it doesn't have as many games as people claim and most titles are lazy ports.
This isn't the nostalgia board and I don't expect anybody on this board to have nostalgia for a rare Japanese computer.

>>4160995
>This isn't the nostalgia board and I don't expect anybody on this board to have nostalgia for a rare Japanese computer.
Then why are you in a thread for one? Do you also go on PornHub into the gay category and start shitting in the comments when you're not gay? Do you go to ornithology forums and start shitting there when you don't care about birds?

>>4160995
>This isn't the nostalgia board
>old video games
>not nostalgia
sure as fuck it isn't a board for shilling old shit either

>>4160969
Amiga sucks, it failed for a reason.

>>4161008
>it failed for a reason
It failed because Commodores stupidity, it didn't suck.

>>4161001
Because I'm interested in Japanese computers for reasons completely unrelated to nostalgia.
Why are you here?

>>4161013
If it was didn't suck it would have succeeded in spite of commodore being useless.

>>4161021
Not how marketing works. But whatever.
3/10 (way too overused)

>>4161020
Great, I didn't say you shouldn't be.
Just don't expect people to sell you shit and acting like they should.

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>>4161008
>>4161021
Remember, the X68k failed too and I don't really see much of a difference between the Amiga and X68k on a year-to-year model comparison basic

>>4161026
I'm not asking to be sold. I'm asking that claims are backed up by facts or left out.
Sharpies completely misrepresent the x68000. If you want to play arcade games you should get arcade boards or MAME.
It's an interesting system with interesting independent games but it had its shortcomings.

>>4161029
but but you're doing it wrong!
you should only compare things to the amiga 500, specially when talking about a high end costly system like the x68000

>>4161029
x68000 did more colors at a higher resolution (65,536@512x512).

>>4161029
16 million units for a PC is not a failure, this is not the Wii U.

>>4161115
It didn't sell 16 million. That's a gross translation error. It sold 160,000.

>>4159483
Disquetes*

>>4161059
See, that's it.

Amiga did 32 colors out of 4069 at 320x512 in '85.

X68k then did 256 colors out of 65536 at 512x512 in '87.

Amiga then did 256 colors out of 16777216 at 640x512 in '92

The 65,536 color mode for the X68k was only for 1 plane at once on the screen. Amiga had something similar with HAM at 4096 colors at once.

>>4161115
Well, it's a dead platform just like the Amiga, isn't it? I thought that's your definition of failure if you described the Amiga, because it's sales where great.
The Amiga actually sold several millions of units. Also see >>4161119

>>4161119
No, it sold 16 million.

>>4161124
>Amiga had something similar with HAM at 4096 colors at once.
16,777,216 colours at once on the screen for AGA at 640x1024 actually

>>4161124
X68K lifted the 256 color cap by 1988 however.

>>4161137
yes, for 1 plane graphics

>>4161130
Check your sources.
All Japanese ones list it between 10 and 20万台.
The 16 million number comes from an extremely shitty machine translation. Even common sense should tell you that the number can't be right.

>>4161120
Is that how you spell "Diskette"?

>>4161130
It didn't sell more than MSX, that sold 9 million units
so no, it can't be 16 million

>>4161143
in japan*

>>4161115
>>4161130
Topkek, that would mean literally every 9th person in Japan had a very expensive home computer at the time, obviously bullshit

>>4161145
Are you sure about those numbers? I see it listed as 4 million worldwide.

>>4161138
No, by X68000 ACE the color cap was lifted.
>>4161139
That was debunked years ago.
It's 16 million.
>>4161147
It's true due to the bubble economy.

>>4161150
Makes sense, 5 million in Japan, the worldwide of 4 million doesn't include Japan then.
I'm getting confused here myself already, but those numbers add up fine then.

>>4161153
Thats 9 million in total.

>>4161152
>No, by X68000 ACE the color cap was lifted.
Yes, for 1 plane graphics on the screen at once. Didn't we already have this discussion? Amiga also had a multi million color mode for one plane of graphics at once.

>>4161153
Where do you get those 5 million from?

>>4161156
No for all it's layers, the 1 plane thing was only for the 1987 original model.

>>4161154
See >>4161143
That's what I said.

>>4161157
Google is your friend.
Found several sources, some say 9 million total, some say 4 million worldwide and 5 million in Japan alone. Makes sense it's 9 million total then with the 4 million being worldwide plus 5 million Japan.

>>4161160
You don't understand.
The original '87 model only could do 256 colors on 1 plane, the updated one was the 65536 colors on 1 plane.

It might help if you instead of reading wikipedia articles would actually be interested in the system outside of just posting about it on /vr/.

>>4161164
Dude we debunked that years ago.

>>4161161
The 5 million in Japan figure only leads me to English Wikipedia and sites that copypasted it from there.
There's no source given so it's probably bullshit.
The 4 million comes from 1990 so it's plausible that it broke 5 but much more than that seems unrealistic since it was completely outdated by then.

>>4161167
>dude stop, stop dude it's not true, trust me
Stop bullshiting people, I've used several models in person, played around with emulators for it for almost two decades.
Even though I don't have one in my possession, I've pretty familiar with it

>>4161172
Not really.
It doesn't make sense.

MSX machines are fairly easy to acquire in the west even today, they where really popular here too, specially in Europe.
There where several big name companies producing them. There where several revisions of the standard, like MSX 2.

So no, 5 million units in Japan alone? Where would all the western units be?
The 5 million in Japan is a solid figure.

>>4161179
If it sold 2 million in Japan and 2 million in the rest of the world it would still be easy to acquire.
That's still the same level as the Amiga

>>4161172
so msx had only 5 million units total and it's easy as fuck to buy on ebay or even in japan while the 68000 had 16 million units and it's even rare to see on a japanese auction?

kek

>>4161185
>That's still the same level as the Amiga
amiga is relevant how? we were talking about the x68k

also no, 4 million? bitch please, the amiga 500 alone sold 1 million units in germany in one year ('90 or '91 IIRC)

>>4161189
Yes, those numbers don't add up.
So should we dismiss the source of the 4 million as untrustworthy compared to the completely unsourced 16 million?

>>4161191
Total worldwide was around 6 million.
Germany did sell like 2 million total. Those numbers are available in old Commodore documents if anyone wants to go reading through that shit.

>>4161198
I agree, looking more and more into it, both look like bullshit

>>4161203
It's not BS.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/UsefulNotes/SharpX68000

>>4161221
??

>>4161221
I don't see any talk about numbers, also I don't see any sourcers for any of the other information or claims made.
This is not how it works, anon.

>>4161232
>>4161228
Check the history.
>It sold 16 million units, making it the third best-selling ''Pre-Windows 95'' computer of all time, right behind the PC-98 (18 million units) and the UsefulNotes/{{Commodore 64}} (17 million units).
>The "units sold" was very wrong, a common translation error, I can't find a exact number so I won't update it.

>>4161203
If anyone still cares, Wikipedia Japan list the sales figures for the x68000 at about 130.000 units sold as of september '91. There appears to be a source (ASCII Magazine / Kadokawa). Those figures look like they are for the original model.

What's the best place to download X68000 games?

>>4161239
>Check the history.
I guess it was changed for a reason then.

Where is the source? Anyone can edit an article, it's as credible as saying it in a 4chan post and hoping for blind belief from others.

Wikipedia has references and sources for a reason you know, that page doesn't even have that.

>>4161243
Thanks.That gives a little better idea of it.
So it was around 200,000 MAX with the last model coming out in '93.

>>4161221
>>4161239
>Check the history.

>Motorola 68300 running at 25MHz

>was one the most powerful and expensive 16-bit home video game systems
>16-bit

>considerably superior to the Sega Genesis and Amiga
>(comment for the fix: There's no reason to mention Amiga when the system never exceeded it with a consumer unit that had more processing power. )

>It sold 16 million units, making it the third best-selling ''Pre-Windows 95'' computer of all time, right behind the PC-98 (18 million units) and the Commodore 64 (17 million units).

AHAHAHA. Seriously, who wrote that article? Also not a single source on the 16 million.
Thanks for the fixes though. The original was cringeworthy.

>>4161265
>if I repeat it long enough, others will start to believe it too
that's some proper weeb autism
I love the X68k though, sad to see it being shit on like that because autistic fucks

>>4161251
In a somewhat similiar fashion to the amiga, some other other companies continued to produce upgraded variants of the x68k. Last one released in '94/'95 with a x68030 cpu, 8 mb ram and up to 500 harddisk

>>4161278
Interesting.

>x68030 cpu
There's no CPU like that, it's the 68030.

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>>4161167
>Dude we debunked that years ago.
not
>Dude I know the system pretty well

you're like some small fry who likes a football team from another, far, far away country, just because the colors of their shirts and for the fact that nobody else in your home town likes them so you can feel special, but except for the name of the team you don't know nothing else of them but you still like to make up shit because you want your special snowflake team to be better than the local one so you can feel special too

>>4161281
Crap. Shit happens if you just take text from wikipedia without thinking. My bad

>>4160979
Normie with "fanni shmups)))" can't into awesome Amiga library.

>>4161281
You're in vr. Here are absolutely tech iliterate imbeciles who never written line of code in life.

>>4161446
It's true, but try saying that without a shitstorm

x68k destroys western computers

>>4161443
stop being a little fanboi

>>4161458
not really, it wasn't anything special like people make it seem, it was just another system with it's own ups and downs

>>4161459
Okay. Tell me about projects like Fate Gates of Dawn, Midwinter, The hunter, Cannon Fodder for x68k. Tell about anything on that shit that isn't "fanni shmups))))" or "fanni platformers)))" or vn

>>4161464
It had it's own games that the Amiga never got.
You where the one who came into this thread and sperging out about the Amiga.

I have no idea why to even bother replaying anymore, obviously both this and the Amiga thread are planned bait threads and you successfully made this thread a shitfest.

>>4161473
>It's own games
2 "fanni shmups))))" and 3 "fanni platformers)))"?

>>4161459
at least x68k games use more than one fucking button

>>4161480
so do many Amiga games
both platforms also had plenty keyboard/mouse games

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>>4161464
Cyberblock Metal Orange EX
A Breakanoid with Gradius style upgrades.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAewG2Or5uQ

>>4161483
>"Fanni shmup)))"
It's really interesting project.

>>4161482
then why do the ports of mortal kombat and street fighter only use one button on amiga but 6 on x68k?

>>4161483
Very cool!

I like this Breakout clone on the Amiga
BabeAnoid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q56sjbq9qQE

>>4161494
Because both systems have their games that take advantage of their strong sides, they can't all be equally good nor do they both have all the same games

>>4161497
For some reason it reminds me of Oxyd.
Stage music is kind of lacking for Amiga.

>>4161503
lol dude we haven't even gotten to the fm towns or pc98 yet.

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Doki Doki Card League.
Another enhanced PC88 port. You play baseball with cards akin to the later Wrestle Angels series.

>>4161505
You're right, it does.
The stage music is different on every stage, but always very quiet.

I do like how they pulled of effects, voice and music without problems, even working on an older shittier Amiga.

I remember some nice page of RTS games for the x68k but can't find it anymore.

>>4161508
Those also have their own strong sides and games that play the best of just them.
Damn, I want a PC-98 laptop.

>>4161514
disgusting font

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>>4161514
Is that related to Doki Doki Pretty League?

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The purpose of the x68k is to play Etoile Princesse

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>>4159986
>Amiga community image contains IBM PC

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At least fm townes has best Ultima 1/2/3 versions

>>4165532
the whole picture is bait (or seriously delusional fanboism)

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>>4165569
No it doesn't.
The best is on an Apple II with an Authentic™ monochrome monitor.

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>>4165569
x68000 has the best Ultima 5 version and Ultima 5 is a better game than 1-3.

>>4165780
it doesn't even have Ultima 1-3

>Ultima 5 is a better game
>implying
butthurt your meme platform doesn't have 1-3?

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>>4165569
>>4165770
>>4165780
That would be the Amiga actually.
For all of the early Ultimas. I'm not even memeing.

It had better color, good music and mouse support. Not the best of each, but a good balance.

>>4165785
The mouse support in 3 is crap and might as well not exist.

>>4165824
>it's crap because I say so

>>4165832
You get a key input depending on where you click.
It's effectively a slower way to control the same than just using the keyboard.

>>4165840
that's literary how it always has worked with that type of games
Wasteland for example

nobody bitched about that, stop crying now because someone mentioned the Amiga

>>4165843
Wasteland has terrible controls in general. And it's on none of the mentioned systems. In fact, it wasn't released in Japan at all.

>>4165892
>Wasteland has terrible controls in general.
>ugh why doesn't this game control like Diablo DDDD:
see >>4165832

>And it's on none of the mentioned systems.
u wot m8? Wasteland was a Apple II original

>In fact, it wasn't released in Japan at all.
I thought we where talking about controls for several posts now not about the system/game

>>4165907
Wasteland should control similar to Ultima 5 but instead it controls like Bard's Tale which is completely unsuited for that type of combat.

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>>4159478
Why do you guys shill for it so hard when I know most of you haven't even seen one or played a single game on it.
Yet you go nuts if someone says something bad about it or doesn't agree with your view. Not to mention, lack of any credibility.

>>4165947
His dad works for Sharp.

>>4165981
don't we hate our dads?

>>4166758
b-but my dad won't let my pillow waifu to the dinner table

>>4165824
What, Ultima IV plays great with a mouse though.

>>4166768
h-he puts her on the dinner table while you're sleeping, p-pillow c-cucked f-faggot.

>>4167783
S-STOP IT A-ANON

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>>4159857
I recommend the 超連射68k オリジナルサウンドトラック -COMPLETE EDITION-
for cho ren sha 68k ost.

>>4161483
Fuck that game.
>unbreakable bricks up the ass
>can only do anything if you powerup
>oops! You will not have many powerups!

>>4165947
But I did

>>4168791
If anything it's too easy to keep all the powerups.

>>4168861
at the beginning maybe.
try when you unlock the second girl.

>>4168868
I've beaten the game several times.

I replay Star Trader every now and then just to listen to the music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNnnwkH0KWI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLLE83zbBDA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czbifleUDug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NxRpNPHrs8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jap0w52W0wE

Chorensha x68,Genocide and Phalanx are also some of my favourites

>>4165782
>Your meme platform
Are you role-playing like we're now in 1995, normie? Any of my devices have access to all of the fucking variants of any Ultima game.

Я тaм вooбщe вceх нaхyй cyкa пиздил вceх блядeй oтпиздил eбyчих пoгoлoвнo eбaть cyкa нaхyй бля

>>4170170
X68k does not have Ultima 1-3.

>>4170190
My fucking pc has all the Ultimas stored on nas

>>4170193
>I have no idea what people are discussing but I must post

>>4170198
>I'm role-playing like it's 1995.
Normie, pls

>>4170208
X68k does not have Ultima 1-3.
Any credible argument besides a shitpost?

>>4170213
I can play games from any platform on my devices, so it doesn't matter what it have

>>4170262
How is this relevant to the discussion at hand?
This is literary >>4170198

>>4170278
This discussion has no point because we're not in 1995 and you have access

>>4170349
X68k does not have Ultima 1-3.
We are talking about the X68k here, fuck off to /v/ emulatorfag.

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>>4160095
Where do you think you are?

>>4172419
People here generally like anime, only a fraction of them are actual weebs.

Where we are? A retro games board.
We had a nice discussion about text adventures on CP/M a while ago, nobody went autistic.

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>>4165151
this. Etoile Princesse is a legit cute em up
great music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YdBhvl7QTA

>>4172419
Just because you are a retard that call himself weeabo doesn't mean everyone else is one
Fuck off retard
You are cancer like the retards that use the word weeb

>>4173358
Weeb is an actual thing though. Weebs exist and it's autism. A weeb would defend Nintendo over everything just because it's Japanese.