Why did Egg Man not use Metal Sonic to just destroy Sonic from

Because it's a video game.
Also, that's mecha sonic, ackchuyally.

Why didn't Willy just pit all 8 robot masters at once against Megaman.

You just don't get it, Scott.
https://youtu.be/aMYLJ9NlP1Y

>>4039953
I could marathon through all Austin Power movies anyday.

>>4039947
Collecting data on Sonic.

>>4039947
Asking the important questions again I see

>>4039947
Because Robotnik wanted Sonic to liberate all the cute little animals.

Robotnik is actually the good guy.

>>4039947
You're working under the assumption that Mecha Sonic was ready for deployment from the start.

>>4039947
>Was he unsure of his capabilities?

pretty much, if you want to get all lore-faggy about it. not like the developers thought about this at all, but comparing that robot to the two other Sonic robots that came after in CD and 3K makes it look pretty prototype-y.

>>4039947
>Was he unsure of his capabilities?
Given how piss-easy that fight was I don't blame him.

Why didn't he just build like 50,000 Metal Sonics?

>>4039953
kek

Sonic games make no sense, they never have and never will

>>4039950
Why didn't Bowser that hold a knife to Peach's throat and force Mario and Luigi to fight each other to the death?

>>4039967
>I could marathon through all Austin Power movies anyday.

I think that would leave someone with permanent brain damage.

Also, Austin Powers is the one movie I can't watch ever since HDTVs became a thing. It looks way too disgusting.

why didn't Dracula just revive when Belmont was a baby?

>>4039947
That robot sonic was slow, clunky, it does not display any ability to react quickly or change directions fast, and it needs to charge up a spin dash to do a jump.

Note that you fight it on a room with completely flat ground, in a small arena. It might not even be able to hold its ground on actual landscape. Hell it might fumble, make a wrong turn, and charge headlong onto the lava on Hill Top zone.

All the other later units displayed a lot better motion control than that.

Why didn't K. Rool just grow his own Banana orchard.

>>4041665

Because Belmont has a Dad who is also a Belmont.

>>4041665
For the same reason he blocks up freshly cooked meat in walls and crams huge sacks of gold in tiny candle fixtures.

>>4041662
Try watching some upscaled TV shows - The first few seasons of 24 are on Amazon Prime and are almost sega-cd grainy lol

I was always under the impression that Robotnik was just barely scraping shit together while Sonic was pretty much chasing him from area to area.

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>>4041665
Because Shanoa would kick the shit out of him

>>4041707

This. Robotnik is basically a metaphor for Nazi Germany in the wake of the Soviet blitzkrieg following German defeat at Stalingrad. They kept inventing and employing all kinds of new inventions that were theoretically way better than anything the Russians had, but it didn't always work well in practice and since the Russians kept rushing they didn't have a lot of time to mass produce their most cutting-edge stuff.

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>>4041747
Stalin really was the most evil and fascist dictator in history, never got why people like Hitler or Mussolini are considered more evil.

>>4041758
>most evil
>couldn't beat Chairman Mao's high score

>>4039949
>Also, that's mecha sonic, ackchuyally
It's ackchuyally Silver Sonic tbqh.

>>4041758
Chairman mao 75

>>4041769
Axe-shoe-lee Silver Sonic is the one from the Master System game, that is indeed Mecha Sonic.

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>>4042024
Nah nah nigga, you are sorely mistaken, pic related is Mecha Sonic, from Sonic and Knuckles.
The robot in Sonic 2 is indeed, Silver Sonic.

>>4039947
The easiest answer is that he wasn't prepared, and was working on several things to beat Sonic.
...but Sonic just caught him while he was in the middle of his plans. He's fast -- once he hears word that Eggman's doing shit, he's on the scene.
That's about it, really.

Like shit, while you're in Launch Base in Sonic 3, you literally see him in the middle of working on things at one point.

>>4041667
I like how this sounds.
honestly, the damn thing really looks a bit cobbled together, and the only remote reason it's difficult is because there's no rings

This brings up another stupid point -- why the hell Eggman doesn't fucking pick up all of the rings floating around so Sonic can't get to them?

>>4042058
man, Mecha Sonic is so damn cool
Like, Metal's design is slicker, but Mecha Sonic was much better as a boss, and he looks more menacing.

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>>4042058
Wish they would bring back mecha-sonic. His design was badass. maybe in sonic mania.

>>4041758
But he saved glorious motherland

>>4042090
>why the hell Eggman doesn't fucking pick up all of the rings floating around so Sonic can't get to them?
they are onion rings and eggman can't have any with his diabetes or else he will die

>>4042092
that sprite shook my world off it's axis when I was a kid. still looks badass

why didn't Zeon mass produce the Big Zam

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Why didn't Robotnik just tag team with Metallix throughout every level instead of trying to solo Sonic with different Eggmobiles at the end of each stage?

>>4041661
Why didn't Ganon just take the items from the dungeons before he sent his bosses in?

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>>4042267
mecha designs were so much better in the 80/90s when they still had shading.
>>4042240
this boss fight blew my mind as a kid. The lore and characters were so mysterious to me back then because my family could not afford Sonic CD or Chaotix but I always so the ads and wanted to play them. I never even knew about Sonic Fighters back then but it captures the perfect sonic aesthetic.

>>4042058
That anon was actually right

>This robot was not named in the English-language manuals accompanying Sonic the Hedgehog 2, but in the Japanese materials he was called "Mecha Sonic" (as were the other early Sonic robots).

>Because of his similarity to Silver Sonic from the Master System and Game Gear versions of Sonic the Hedgehog 2, Archie Comics used the name "Silver Sonic" for the version of the character in the Sonic Quest miniseries.

>Many fans adopted this name for the game character, particularly to differentiate it from the radically different design of Mecha Sonic seen in Sonic & Knuckles.

>"Mecha Sonic" was used as the official English-language name in the backstory for Sonic the Hedgehog 4: Episode I, released in the Story section of the official English website.

Sorry for the wall of text

>>4043570
Yeah, but now he's officially called Robo Sonic too, I think it'd just be safest to keep calling him Silver Sonic.

Do you guys think there was any communication between between the team that did Sonic 2 and the team that did Sonic CD? Or maybe they both came up with the idea of a robotic Sonic separately as a coincidence?
That said, Metal sonic is the best design, Mecha Sonic in Sonic 2 looks pretty badass too. I always found Mecha in S&K kind of weird.
As a kid I thought it was Metal sonic because he was blue.

>>4039950
There's a fangame where that's literally what happens. You just walk into a room and fight every single 2 robot master all at once.

>>4041665
Does he even have any control over when he's allowed to come back? I always figured unless somebody drags him back into the mortal realm he needs time to "heal" before resurrecting.

>>4043584
He pretty much has to be resurrected by external forces

>>4041665
Because if there isn't any Belmont around, someone will take the responsability to use the Vampire Killer, even if that means getting cursed.

>>4043551
You can't look at Mecha Sonic and NOT TELL ME THAT LOOKS LIKE IT COULD BE A DBZ VILLAIN

>>4043587
True. That's exactly what happened in Bloodlines, wasn't it?

>tfw you realize eggman just wanted sonic to be his friend

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>>4043579
Sonic 2 was originally going to have Time Travel just like Sonic CD. Sonic 2 was going to have 2x as many levels and was planned to be released on sega cd. Some of the level concepts got moved to S3&K. I do think they shared concepts but the teams went different ways.

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>>4043616
>time zones would be accessed in a more linear way, and rather than appear as re-skinned and slightly tweaked versions of the same levels, each time period would have an entirely new set of stages

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>>4043628

>all of the robotic sonics have different names

I always thought they were just different art styles or something.

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>>4043630

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>>4043637

>>4043579
The abridged version is that two very different concepts for a Sonic 2 came to be, and instead of shelving one they agreed to just make both.

Sonic 2 was meant to appeal mainly to the US (it was even developed by a SEGA branch in the States!) while CD was more for the Japanese market. In the end we got two good games out of the agreement so I suppose it worked out for the best.

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>>4043634
dont forget Rocket Metal Sonic from Fighters

>>4043649
>Sonic 2 was meant to appeal mainly to the US
Same with Sonic 1 though. Sonic was never that popular in Japan anyway, did Sonic CD sell more than other Sonics in Japan?
And yeah Sonic 2 was developed in Sega of America studios, but with Yuji Naka and other guys from the original Sonic Team, all japanese.
Only thing americans helped with was pitching ideas for zones (conceptually, not design-wise), and some codemonkey work, but the control of the overall game development was japanese.

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>>4043649
I still remember these bullshots in ads at the time. Lack of internet created a lot of gossip about secrets.

>>4043658
This is all correct, yes. I do not know how well Sonic CD did compared to the others. Considering you had to purchase the CD addon I presume that put a dent in the sales, but who knows.

I probably should have mentioned that the staff from Sonic 1 was still developing the game despite the shift to a US branch. My mistake.

>>4043640
I hate hearing stuff about this. WHY RUIN MY FAVOURITE GAME

>>4043668
What? How is it being ruined? I do not follow.

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>>4043658
>Mark Cerny with MJ at STI

>>4043668
SONIC'S ARMS ARE BLUE GET OVER IT

>>4042090
>This brings up another stupid point -- why the hell Eggman doesn't fucking pick up all of the rings floating around so Sonic can't get to them?

Maybe he can't, and the only reason you have none on Death Egg is because they are naturally occurring and Death Egg was in low earth orbit.

The Death Egg in Sonic & Knuckles only just launched, so it still had rings.

But, uh, Doomsday had rings and it was also in low earth orbit. Hell the last stage of Sonic Advance was on the damn Moon and it had rings.

So maybe he DID remove the rings in Death Egg.

>>4043551
Mecha Sonic going Super blew my mind way more. The one in Chaotix was relatively crap, it was a basic H. R. Giger ripoff done in poor CGI.

>>4043675
That's Cerny on the left? Damn he aged like shit. Looked decent back then.

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>pepe was originally going to be in Sonic 2

>>4043658
>>4043665
There was a lot of internal conflict, Yuji Naka wanted to leave because he thought he did not get enough cocksucking from SOJ, and the temporary solution was for him to work at SOA. Because it meant having him still work at Sega but not work at Sega at the same time.

The people who worked with them at SOA later became Sega Technical Institute (with the addition of a few more people). They did Sonic Spinball, and later on Comix Zone, The Ooze, and a shit load of internal projects / demos / proof-of-concepts. Helped localize Die Hard Arcade iirc. Afterwards they worked on improving the dev kits for Saturn and Dreamcast. There was a bump mapping demo on Saturn they did.

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>>4043652
>>4043634
And Metal Sonic's phase 2, Neo Metal Sonic.

>>4043737
not retro deviant art shit

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>>4043749
There isn't a lot of art of him that doesn't look fuckin retarded.

>>4041657
it would have tanked the budget of the Eggman Empire.

>>4043756
was he designed by squareenix?

>>4043794
When you put it that way, I'm imagining Metal Sonic as having his head completely up his ass and wanting his new form to look as cool as possible, so he tried way too fucking hard and that's why Neo Metal Sonic looks the way he does.

I remember we had a Sega Classic Hits CD or whatever for the PS2 when I was just a kid, I loved sonic. When I got Sonic Heros I actually couldnt figure out how to move sonic for a while because I was using the d-pad not the joystick.

why didn't robotnik just turn all the koops into robots?

>>4043806
>I actually couldnt figure out how to move sonic for a while because I was using the d-pad not the joystick.
It was not just me then.

>>4043806
>PS2 when I was just a kid
Shit.

>>4039947
Why millenial gamers still call Evo Robotnik as Eggman?

>>4043591
>super saiyan
>super sanic

>emeralds
>dragon balls

>namek
>echidna

>>4042058
That's the same robot, they're both called Mecha Sonic. In Sonic & Knuckles he is heavily upgraded

Silver Sonic is from the Sega Master System game, but in some comic there was a character based on Mecha Sonic from Sonic 2, called Silver Sonic. That's probably where all the confusion comes from.

>>4044151
His name is Dr Kintobor

>>4044151
calling Eggman Robotnik is like calling FFVI FFIII

>>4044151
All the latest games and materials translate it as "Eggman". Someone new wouldn't know his real name is Robotnik

The order makes no difference as long as they get their chance to destroy sonic

>>4044179

If you're a limey. Otherwise that's the name of his good otherworld self.

>>4044162
People take way too much comic stuff as if it actually means something. See: the planet's name is Mobius. It was never Mobius. Not at any point in history on any side of any ocean was Sonic's world called that, except is some daft spinoff furry romance comic.

>>4043616
>just like Sonic CD
Itm is very misleading to say this. Time travel was going to be a plot point, nothing more. Not at all like CD.

>>4044934
What's the comic called? I need it for research purposes

>>4039947
Somebody might've already answered you but I can't be arsed to read 87 replies.

See, if Robotnik had used the Sonic Robot/Death Egg Robot combo from the start, if and when Sonic defeated him, he'd have nothing better to fall back on, allowing Sonic to breeze right through the rest of his plot. Saving the better for later is actually a good idea.

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>>4045179
Sonic The Comic?

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>>4039947
>unironically calling him eggman
Jump off a cliff, faggot.

>>4045249
thanks sanic

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>>4045256
>calling him by his actual name he's always had is bad

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>>4045523
>unironically calling him by a translation of his japanese name when the original western name is way cooler

>>4041495

The music was dope tho.

>>4045552
>Death threats over an opinion

>>4043492
Ganon in Zelda 1 does not have any minions in the labyrinths. Those are all there by King Hyrule to protect the Triforce pieces.

>>4043591
I showed my girlfriend DBZ, while she had grown up with the Sonic games. When Goku finally went super Saiyan she laughed out loud because "he turned yellow like Super Sonic!!"

Then she realized Sonic 2 came out later than DBZ.

>>4044934
Some Sonic 2 US stuff called it Möbius dude

>>4039947
Why does death egg look like a recolored chemical plant?

>>4048035
They ran out of time.

>>4047954

This, Sonic didn't live on "earth" until the Adventure games came along and internationalized everything.

Personally the idea of a unique world named Mobius is a lot more fucking appealing than him living on earth, or a vague "Sonic's World"

I don't get why Sega thought it would be a good idea to model the international version of the series after the Japanese canon anyway, Japan never gave a shit about Sonic, and he was made with Americans in mind anyway.

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Posting this robot cause no one has yet.
He wants a challenge of course, also if eggman pit them all against Sonic, he would just fucking bounce off of all of them and scrap them easily.

>>4048316
Japs are stupidly xenophobic, they think they can do everything better than America.

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>>4048351
I have extreme nostalgia weakness for the 8-bit GG Sonic games. They are underrated and are better on SMS.
Dat Yuzo Koshiro & Naofumi Hataya music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMrOZ6Hk4yc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoQnT-1ijPg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWRjopGL1Qg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfBnigniPxI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4t5t4v4Knk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kJNCnjJnEQ

>>4048368
Eh, didn't know Sunset Park's boss theme was a unused track in Sonic Chaos.

>>4048368

I think Sonic 2 is a little too unforgiving, waaay too many spikes, the bosses are just sort of standing there, so you can easily run into them by accident, no checkpoints, and that tube maze can go fuck itself.

But Sonic 1 on Master System is the most underrated classic Sonic game. It's the only Sonic game that actually presents a decent challenge since the platforming is strong and you can't just pick rings up after getting hit.

>>4043616
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>>4043640
>tfw you will never play Sonic 2 as it was originally imagined
This is the worst timeline.

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>>4048373
Sonic Chaos was by Nagao N.Gee Masayuki. He also composed Hydrocity Zone the best music in sonic 3.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz8p2PT4wNo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9En9Cr984w