So did any one actually play SMT 1 or 2? Because I did and want

>>4000171
Yes.

yeah i beat them
well, i got fucked on the last boss of 2 and gave up.

No but i plan to. How long did they take you to complete?

>>4000186
HLTB says 30 hours
Took me around 20 hours or so to beat SMT2?
A lot of that is just getting prepared in the early stages of the game. Grinding money and Energy for your demons.
There's a huge difficulty curve though, the beginning is piss easy then there is a spike then it's easy again mainly because Magic is terrible yet some enemies are only able to take damage from it.
Seriously, I didn't use any offense magic after using it twice and seeing it's awful
Overall, very easy in the early-mid game due to nerve bullets and easy in the end if you use your head. I even had a bug where if you buff your atk over a set amount, It wraps around to do single digit damage on the final boss and still beat him
>>4000181
How? YHVH is easy compared to Satan
Chaos path here by the way, not sure if you fight Satan on Law

>>4000214
YHVH is nothing like Satan.

>Good people go to heaven
>Bad people stay on Earth

The Japanese who made this game apparently thought "Well who is this guy to decide who deserves it?"

My response. HE'S FUCKING GOD AND IT'S HIS HOUSE

Is there an Orden's patch for SMT2, or is the Aeon Genesis translation fine on its own?

>>4000251
Nope, No Orden.
AG patch is okay. I played on a PS Vita through Henkaku and there was a fuckton of bugs along with spell names being pretty hard to understand.
For example, I would stay buffed even if the enemy used Dekaja which is supposed to debuff you and the descriptive text even says this but I would get debuffed only when an enemy used the skill which says "Returned Demons to Original power"
Not sure if a bug or not or if the names were switched but there is a few problems
Nothing game breaking through, Just be careful in the end game of the bug in >>4000214
where the damage rounds over

>>4000214
I went Neutral.

>>4000251
>>4000284
There's an incomplete Orden patch, but all it does is fix demon types, I think. Go get it in smtg. He's never finishing it because his computer got fucked and he lost all his work.

If you know Spanish, play his version of that. Apparently it's the best version. The weird demon conversation is fixed, despite Gideon saying OMG IT KAN NEVAH BE DUN??//

>>4000351
Interesting

I'm still stuck on Arachne in SMT1. She keeps one shotting my MC. I feel like I should grind some levels or something, but I can't really work up the spirit to it.

>>4000725
Find someone who can stun her or put her to sleep.

I want to play SMT1 because it has a really unique setting and atmosphere but the combat is just not interesting enough for how frequent random encounters are of. The second game seems to have both better gameplay and a more sensible encounter rate.

>>4000171
i can't play smt 1, but i played through 2 on neutral and got to satan, who was insanely difficult fo rme because i'd spent the whole game using a gun with panic bullets to auto win, and just couldn't survive the damage / heal through his damage

i like smt 2 a lot.

>>4000854
I used the nerve/sleep bullets but I made sure my gear was always up to date, MC was a strength/Stamina build and he was hitting 184 DMGx3-5 every turn when buffed twice

>>4000226
>HE'S FUCKING GOD AND IT'S HIS HOUSE
Yes, and?

>>4000226
>God makes you
>doesn't let you leave the house
God's basically kidnapping humanity

>>4001520
SMT is going from gnostic concepts, so technically it's the Demiurge (a material 'creator', and not a spiritual being) that's keeping people captive and not the one true God.

>>4000171

I played SMT for snes. It was awful. I don't want to talk about it.

>>4001532
The old Testament is fucking weird

>>4002069

gnosticism has nothing to do with the OT, but it predates the NT.

>>4000348
>Neutral
Wow.

>>4000772
>liking backtracking

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>>4002258
I did it for Hero.

I actually just beat II on neutral. On most of the bosses late game I just used a combination of Divine Retribution and Deathbound. I was surprised by how quickly YHVH went down. I had a harder time with Lucifer honestly.

>>4001520
Nobody would want to leave paradise. Don't know where you get the idea that they "can't"
>>4001456
>insert comment about illegal immigration

>>4002361
>Nobody would want to leave paradise.

Tell that to all those dudes I unplugged

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>unironic christian namefag
So not even /vr/ can escape from this evil.
>>4002409
>Tell that to all those dudes I unplugged
Eh...

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So, am I supposed to grind from the very first floor?
I can barely win a single battle without dying.

>>4002530
Git gud

>>4002530
Yes. Dying and losing money is cheaper than paying for res.

>>4002530
MG1 sucks. Play smt 2

>>4006583
Thanks for keeping this thread up, I love SMT

>tfw still waiting for IF.
I put too much faith in gideon.
If I knew it would take this long I would have taken my jap more seriously

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>>4007707
>tfw I'll be waiting just as long on Devil Summoner
...At least there's the excuse of no real group being attached to Devil Summoner.

Ah yes I was hoping for a classic SMT thread here. The SMT thread on /vg/ is awful.

Anyway I'm playing SMT1 now and it's pretty solid so far. Don't really see why people shit it on so much. I've heard SMT2 is better in every way possible so that should be fun.

>>4008094
The Megaten threads on /vg/ are Nocturne vs SJ 24/7 and the ones on /v/ vary wildly but are mostly a Persona 5 circlejerk, which stands to reason as it just came out.

Both SMT1 and 2 are plenty fun games, although a warning with SMT2 that there's annoying backtracking.

>>4008094
>thinking smtg is bad

do u even pg

>>4008672
Every thread on /vg/ is bad, and smtg is no exception.

>>4007717
It's not fucking fair

>>4008672
They have some helpful pastebin links, but that's about it.

Aleph is a pretty shitty protag and the backtracking is kinda meh

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>>4011590
ONLY "kinda"?

>>4012007
Not him but the backtracking wasn't even bad, there's teleportation and usually the backtracked to area is different than when you first went

>>4007717
>translation is done
>but no one knows how to hack it in

>>4013513
v w f

>>4000171

SMT1 was great. It was super broken and easy to cheese, but it was sick as fuck. The first few hours are so great and atmospheric.

>>4002530
what game?

>>4013678
how do you break it. im really early in the game right now, just got the chaos hero he looks so badass

>>4013729
the bullets that cause confuse or charm and zio spells

>>4013746
got it

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>>4013729

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>>4013729
>>4013749

>>4013729
Spam Marin Karin

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>>4013751
>>4013729
spoiler-ish if you dont know what happens to the heros

>>4013678
> The first few hours are so great and atmospheric.
This so much. I'll never stop loving the atmosphere of subtle terror and paranoia that fills pre-nuclear strike Tokyo. Roppongi is also great.

>>4013868
IMO both Super Famicom SMTs have wonderful atmosphere. Being shunted into the Underground for the first time in SMT II is wonderful too

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>>4013729
the chaos hero looks like he's ready to shoot up a high school

So what's the point of bars in SMT1? Do they do anything that I'm not noticing?

>>4015438
There's two plot points that involve the bars but otherwise they're just a place with no encounter rates and temp stat boosts