Why is Mortal Kombat II so much better than III and I? It's

Part 2 is usually the best across the board. The creators have the budget to do all the things they wanted to do and fix any problems that may have materialized and they aren't starting to run out of good ideas yet.

UMK3 is the GOAT, sorry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkdqUjlehaY

MKII did have the better art style though.

Play a real competitive fighter, you scrubs.

>>3962370

personally i like the aesthetic of MK1 more but in terms of gameplay yeah its pretty much perfect

if only it had sonya and kano it would be the GOAT mk game

>>3962394
Wow that is actually pretty cool how competitive they get

>>3962412
Yeah they're fucking great and it's so fun to watch. Some really cool competitive UMK3 vids on youtube. Here's another one from the same two in the finals:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tinitviQ7iM

I love how MK has always put the focus on the offensive.

>>3962394

MK9 will always be the GOAT competitive MK but UMK3 is damn close

>>3962424
Why's MK9 better than MKX for competitive?

>>3962370
aesthetics = mk2 is best
gameplay = umk3 is actually legit

MKII felt like fun game, fun ideas, laser focused intent, refinement of the first game which it should be.

MK3 was when they started getting too arrogant, world, atmosphere and theme going to places where it shouldn't go. Game speed getting faster for the sake of competition when it felt like the foundation of the game isn't meant to go that fast.

Same reason why MK9 was comfy but MKX forgot its identity, busy being tryhard with the theme and direction.

Also the same reason why the first MK movie was comfy and fun as fuck, while the sequel is a cluster fuck of random shit. First movie is laser focused and everything was guided. Each Earthrealm warrior had their motivation to participate on an island tournament, it wasn't some weird thing where they hop from place to place with literal whos, that only fans know, inserted in like the second movie. First movie is small scoped and concentrated, much like MKII the game.

>>3962370
UMK3 was the best of the classic games.

>>3962461

less 50/50s, less setplay, better neutral game. and better characters that make for more interesting matchups

>>3962370
Because of the deepest lore

comfy is just a code word for boring desu

>>3962403
They're in that stage there tied up.

>>3962615
i disagree but it seems to be used like that a lot

>>3962370
Because 2 was just a really good refinement of everything that made 1 good aside from maybe the aesthetics which is pretty debatable. MK3 was the start of when Midway had no clue what the hell to do with the franchise anymore and just threw whatever they came up with at the wall and hoped it would stick.

>>3962912
Yep, my prob with MK 3 is it's a bit needlessly convoluted

>>3962394
Can a UMK3fag explain to me why Human Smoke is top tier and Scorpion is middling when they seem to have more or less the same moves?

>>3963024
They have the same special moves but their basic combos are different, which leads to vastly different combat possibilities.

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>>3962394
>>3962415
Jesus Christ I thought the CPU was fast.
People who git that gud at vidya always impress me. Takes a lot of practice and patience to get to that level.

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>>3963205
The MKT shit is even crazier (faster + 3v3)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q4HSovuy84

>>3962396
You mean like Super Smash Bros.?

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>>3962370
I constantly see people bragging that the 32X is the superior version, even compared to the arcade one.
Is there any truth on this?

>>3963689

No, 32X is a terrible port. Probe had 32M but couldn't even fit in the ending pictures.

I honestly think that MKT for the PS1 is the best MK because it has that good blend of original MK mechanics and a fuckton of characters.

>>3962370
>>3962370
Because it is the most realistic.

>>3963205
>that good
the shit in the video is like the baseline skill you're supposed to reach to even play fighting games
what happened to you /vr/

>>3962394
MK1 far and away had the best art style and soundtrack

>>3966040
That's debatable.

>>3966027

>baseline skill
>2 of the best players in the whole world

you do not know what you're talking about

>>3967569
lol have you seen this vid of LIJoe bumping into LowTierGod online? It's hilarious, they both happened to be streaming, LTG losing his shit while LIJoe is just having fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYn-HuvuOgw

>>3967704

LOW

>>3962370
looks like MK2 and MK3 were missing some fighters. MK1 and UMK3 are the best. MK2 really was amazing as a sequel in the arcade though. It was spooky.

>>3962415
This vid is hype af.

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>>3967768

Yeah MKII had an enormous hype going on for it and was mentioned in magazines for months before it was even released.
which makes it so much more sad that Midway/NRS never really talk about it, always seems like they were proudest of MK3.

If it weren't for Daniel Pesina we would have hardly had any material of that time.

And while I agree that UMK3 has the best gameplay it just sports some ridiculous aesthetics.

Shame that that source code proved unusable, I would have given my left nut for a proper MK1/2 combination with UMK3 gameplay.

>>3962551
>MK9 was good
>The movie was good
>MKX is shit
Jesus christ what colossally shit taste

>>3969103
>Yeah MKII had an enormous hype going on for it and was mentioned in magazines for months before it was even released.
Crazy hype. I'm normally a one home console per gen kinda guy (not that I can't afford it, I'd just feel like a fag buying multiple consoles in one gen, honestly no offense to anyone, just a personal idiosyncrasy of mine) but the MKII hype made me buy a Sega Genesis (or as my parents to buy me one). MK1 didn't have blood on the SNES version and I assumed the same would be true of MKII, but then the SNES version not only had blood as well, but it turned out to be the better port. Oh well, at least I got to play some Sanic and all the other good shit. I really love the MKII Genesis music, too. Hell I liked the Genesis music for MKII more than the arcade's soundtrack.

>>3969595
He sound casual af too.

>>3969595
Looks like someone didn't have a loving dad and mom in their childhood

>less than 10 votes for MKX to return to evo
Feels good to be right

>>3969920
>Evo determines if a game is good
really activated my almonds

>>3969950
10 people global want to come out and play MKX competitively is enough of an explanation, thanks

>>3969950

Street Fighter fans complain every MK character has the same moves. But every Street Fighter fan picks Ryu or Ken....

>>3969980
>Le popularity equals good meme

>>3970074

>all the people who are the most skilled and have the most thorough possible understanding of every aspect of the game don't like it

it's not really about popularity, it's about the game not being that good

>>3970297
>You must only like games if a professional likes them
Imagine being this delusional

>>3970396

you're missing the point....again

>>3970423
Not an argument
You literally said you can't like anything unless a professional says so

>>3970428
lol he didn't say anything like that. learn to read.

>>3970493
Read his post again

>>3970497
I did. If you read what he wrote and think what he was saying meant "you can't like anything unless a professional says so" you have terrible reading comprehension, possible retardation.

>>3970506
>Doesn't want to be wrong
>calls other people retarded
hmmm

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>>3970513
I think you'll find this helpful.

>>3970536
">all the people who are the most skilled and have the most thorough possible understanding of every aspect of the game don't like it

it's not really about popularity, it's about the game not being that good"

Literally means "If professionals don't like it it isn't a good game and you can't like it either"

>>3970546
>Literally means
lol you really are retarded.

>>3970556
Not an argument

Its only fun to play with friends. The AI is completly broken and openly cheats to the point the game is unplayable unless you enjoy it

>>3970614
Beat MKII when I was eight years old, something you can't do now even as an adult :^)

>>3963689
Nobody says this.

The best version is the PS360 version.

>>3962370
Hard as fuck better graphics better game play AI WAS impossible..never could get past the stupid annoying 4 arm cunt even to this day any tips?

>>3970617
correct i Cant and ive tried since i kept getting up to the 2nd last boss and its like the ai knew every one of my moves to the point where id get it down round 1 then round 2 it knew everything and cheated.

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>>3971127
*blocks your path*

>>3962370
3 is best because I'd always imagine myself sniffing Sheeva's feet. Who do you think had stinky feet and butts in 2?

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>>3971183
>3 is best because I'd always imagine myself sniffing Sheeva's feet
Sometimes I really wish I was a normie and didn't find these dumbass posts amusing. Something is clearly very wrong with me and I wish I could fix it.

>>3971195
Theres nothing wrong with it. Maybe normies are the ones with the issues. Anything you wanna share? Have you had these fantasies?

>>3971267
Smelling Sheeva's feet? Eh, not really m8, thought honestly never occurred to me. Idk, I like pretty standard things; tits, ass and legs, not into 2D. I don't really care for feet but because of /tv/ degeneracy I do actually notice a pair of pretty feet now -- not that I'd ever fap to them exclusively. I wish I was still the same as before and never noticed feet at all; it's so silly. I find foot porn really stupid desu, like when they start licking each others feet and pretend to be all horny etc shit's retarded. I mainly like lesbians and solo porn (inthecrack is p cool) although nothing too 'extreme' like that Evil Angel gaping nonsense. I like stockings, upskirts, oil massage. Only weird fetish I have is pee I guess, but we all have our kinks eh? One of my ex's was into it, too, and she used to pee on me in the bathtub sometimes while I'd jerk off. One time she peed on me, then I peed on her, then we fucked with the pee underneath us (then we took a shower). She was French and really hot, too, but was batshit crazy because she had OCD and it would manifest itself in weird ways.

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>>3962380
Nintendo get it just right on the 3rd try though (as evidenced by SMB3, ALttP, and Super Metroid).

>>3970614

As if Street Fighter 2 was any better with E. Honda "1,000% damage super hands" or "no charge Flashkick" Guile.

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>>3970536
That has to be the most pointless book since How To Speak French... was translated into French.

>>3971195
Yeah the bit you quoted wasn't even the wrongest bit of his post.

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>>3963689
best graphics of that gen, but sound was barely better than the genesis version and still not nearly as good as the snes

>>3969103
>always seems like they were proudest of MK3.
I figure it was because MK was at it's highest point at that time with the first movie out, the action figures, the comics, cartoon, etc.

MK also started to fade at least for me after 3/ultimate and never got into 4 or the PS2 games.

>>3972817
You know that's a really interesting observation about Nintendo. It's like they really made a, conscious effort to make their part 2s a huge departure from the original hit game and then they used that perspective to come back around and make truly great part 3s. That probably means something about Nintendo as a company back in the day.

inb4 somebody accuses me of implying SMB2USA is the true SMB2 and SMB2J and VSSMB are more like remixes

>>3962370
I understand if you like the simplicity of it, but i just fucking love trilogy for ps1
All the characters, crazy combos and finishers and it just being absolutely packed with content

>>3970428
>>3970560
Fuck off Stephen.

>>>/pol/

>>3971183
I want Sheeva to hold my upside down with one arm, slam my face into her vag with another, and then jerk me off while fisting me with her third and fourth arms.

>>3973957
Where did you find this? Any more of these? Just jerked to this.

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>>3973806
I just want to sniff her feet and ass

>>3973146
>inb4 somebody accuses me of implying SMB2USA is the true SMB2 and SMB2J and VSSMB are more like remixes

Well, aren't they? I mean, SMB2 is just a re-skinned Doki Doki Panic, but as far as the Mario series is concerned, it's different enough from the first game that it counts as a sequel than the glorified expansion packs that were Vs. and The Lost Levels.

>>3973126
Also subsitute Baraka with his (almost)namesake Obongo.

>>3962415
Seeing them blocking is so awkward.

>>3974286
I feel the same way and so does Miyamoto but it's the kind of thing that can derail a whole thread.

>>3973146
Yes, I made that observation quite some time ago - the pattern "1) prototype 2) experiment 3) refinement of prototype to serve as blueprint for the rest of the series" seems to apply at least to Mario and Zelda games. With Metroid it was a bit different, it was more of a steady improvement progression (Return of Samus wasn't as much of an "experiment" in being a departure from the original game as with Mario or Zelda, but it was restricted by the fact that it was a Game Boy title).

It's not better than 3. MK2 was a huge step up from MK1 in every way, whereas MK3 and UMK3 were just further refinements of 2.

>>3976657
I didn't like the atmosphere or mechanics of MK3 as much.

>>3969595
All three are good, and its undeniable that the first MK movie is leagues above the second.

>>3978715

I hear that, I wish Boon hadn't been so fucking full of himself and had just continued the MK1/2 storyline instead of going full sperg with that robotic soul indian horrorqueen invasion shit.

I bet there's another reality out there where the original actors didn't sue Midway and we got a proper MKIII with that six armed Tarkata boss.

>>3979198
is there a story that I can read? I never paid attention to the story in 2 so I didnt know 3 went in a different direction (other than artistically)

>>3978715
>>3979198
It's funny, I like the atmosphere and the story taking the fight from Outworld to Earth. It's the mechanics, dial combos and run button that didn't feel like they were thought out well enough.

>>3979208
>so I didnt know 3 went in a different direction

Meh not really a different direction, just a direction that wasn't as.. "creepy" as MK1 and MK2 were.
it went all techno in ways, I blame the MK techno song for that.

um

>>3963689
yes

>>3978715
>>3979198
>>3979258

storywise i thought MK3 was fine....a forced invasion of earth really was the next logical step forward for shao kahn. but it was just executed poorly. by that point they should have learned their lesson about removing fan favourite characters from the game. the lack of scorpion, raiden, classic ninjas and johnny cage was almost too much to forgive, a mistake that they hastily tried to correct with UMK3. aesthetically i think the game is pretty solid, the environments and music all work well together, but again its marred by poor choices in execution. the finishing moves had gotten way out of hand, and many of the fatalities and animalities were just plain dumb or silly. also, shao kahn was essentially identical to his bossfight in MK2, which was another letdown.

>>3980117
>by that point they should have learned their lesson about removing fan favourite characters from the game. the lack of scorpion, raiden, classic ninjas and johnny cage was almost too much to forgive
> also, shao kahn was essentially identical to his bossfight in MK2, which was another letdown.


That's a common problem with fighters. Players want a new game, and they want it different but they also want it the same. It's a balance they all struggle with.

>>3962370
I prefer 2 to 3, but 3/UMK3 are still really fucking good. MK1 was a real cool novelty at the time and set a good foundation to build off of but was more "neat" than good.

>>3970710
Isn't that impossible to download now if you didn't before a certain date? I thought they made it unavailable after Midway shut down.

>>3981028
I don't know, I might check this evening but I did have the 360 version and wasn't blown away by it.

>>3962380
Except this is almost never the case

>>3970710
>>3981038
It's the same one as the Steam one right? Mortal Kombat Arcade Kollection

>>3981023
>dose MK1 uppercuts tho

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MK1 by far had the best soundtrack + general aesthetic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omvdFcr0z08

tastelets will disagree

>>3962370
Because MK 2 is where the MK Outland aesthetic was basically invented and perfected. 1 is too derivative of kungfu movies, 3 is....too shitty 90s direct to video in its aesthetic.

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>>3982590
Best aesthetic if you mean the most goofy

>>3972817
Zelda 2 was the better game, anon. So was SM2 for that matter.

>>3979856
You're fucking stupid. It went hip hop because of the urban environment, not techno.

>tfw it's the 90s and you casually visit your local arcade, only to notice a crowd of people gathered around a machine
>tfw it's the new Mortal Kombat II

I miss those days

>>3985302
There's nothing hip hop about MK3 you dunce.

>>3985302

Fuck off tardboy, nothing about mk3 was urban.

>>3962370
it has baraka

>>3976657
MK1 had the best music, aesthetics and feel.

Arcade and snes anyway, the genesis mk1 port was cringy as fuck

>>3987986
Aside from being set in the goddamn city I guess, moron

>>3988203
baraka sux

>>3989361
lol ikr? dudes a fucking retard.

>>3989363
4u