Do you think it's right for people who have access to unreleased

>>3771235
Do you think it's right for people who have access to anything they personally own and to be able to hold it back from us until they get something in return?

>>3771235
Personally, I think it's greedy as fuck, but it is his property.
He bought it.

Kinda like how scalping is perfectly fine under the way capitalism works, but I think it's the scummiest legal way of making money imaginable.

>>3771247
The few that'll just dump the game out of knowing that it would preserve the game forever are few and far between DESU

The last one I recall was Happily Ever After for the NES right?

They own it. They can do whatever they want with it.

It's unreleased for a reason. Nobody wants it dumped other than to preserve it.

>>3771235
Absolutely, they have a right to their property and can do with it what they please.

Do we have to like it? no.

It's the difference between those who care and donate something to a museum, and those who happen upon something and know they can make some money from it.

This can be done tastefully, like an auction, or distastefully, like holding it for ransom at a certain dollar amount.

>>3771235
Absolutely, jelly poorfag.

>>3771235
It's wrong. I found a parcel of roms a while ago and I dumped everything immediately. No hostages.

Socks probably blows anyway. 1 level only, I'd bet.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/socksthecat/socks-the-cat-the-video-game-based-on-the-clintons

The kickstarter was funded, so it will be released finally.

if the game is vertex or rayman SNES: no
if the game is this generic furshit: I couldn't care less about the hoarding

The trick is not to care about this shit. I mean, why would you anyway? To get some buggy unreleased piece of shit? Or a version of a game with some different sprites or whatever? If you all just stopped caring they'd be worthless and end up being released anway. But the retro community is full of dumb faggots like Frank Cifaldi who call themselves "games archivists" and think a beta rom of MC Kids is some kind of valuable holy grail.

>>3772103

Frank's a good guy. He doesn't horde shit.

And if we are talking about monetary value, prototypes are the closest things there are to holy grails.

>>3772103
Do not rip on Frank. Frank is more awesome than you will ever be. By far.

>>3771235
in fairness it's completely in their right to since they own it regardless of whether you think it's right or not.

>>3772062
i have a feeling that this game never really existed and the guy "holding it hostage" is really an amature game dev who is using the hype of "i have an unreleased and you don't na na na na na na!" as a means of marketing his indie game

I don't see why you wouldn't want to dump and preserve a one-of-a-kind item like that. Like what if there was some natural disaster that ruins it? What if it decays on its own time? Then it's lost forever.

>>3771247
this exactly

>>3772463
Are you retarded? Of course it's been dumped. The dump just hasn't been made available to you free of charge like most.

>>3771235
I think ROM dumps help keep games alive through accessibility and redundancy. therefore, anyone who does this is being selfish and acting against the hobby as a whole.

>>3771235
I guess. I don't really want to play Socks the Cat Rocks the Hill, so I don't really care.

>>3771956
Pretty sure OP is just talking on principle, nobody would actually be jealous over Socks The Cat

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>>3771235
Well if they bought or inherited the intellectual property it's up to them to do what they want with it.

>>3771247
Scalping is pretty scummy. Some places have consumer advocacy laws that make ticket resale at a higher price illegal.

>>3771235
I think he has the legal right, but it would briefly amuse me if someone stole it and dumped it, and greatly amuse me if someone stole and broke it.
Honestly the whole invoking of a legal right is an irritating side-step of the real question. Yes, it's legal, but that wasn't the question - the question of rights and wrongs is irrelevant to the question of legality. You can say "It's wrong, but a law would be unwieldy", "It's wrong, but stealing it would be more wrong", and so on.

Bill Clinton was a neoliberal sell out who got rid of the cat anyway.

>>3772741
I've seen raging assmad rants about it in other threads so yes, they actually would.

Morally right? Fuck no, but legally they're just an asshole.

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>>3773224
Funny how quick people are to spurt bullshit just for the sake of defending a non-existent right. Is it the ghost "better dead than red"? Do you think you feel like an ebil socialist if you say otherwise.

Even worse some of you faggots go as far to claim someone is legally entitled to such faggotry. LOL. No, they aren't, you dumb fucks. A prototype cart is for internal use, its transfer, exchange or sale without consent of the IP holder is illegal. Needless to say, nearly every prototype out there is in illegal possession.

Someone gave it to you. Or you bought it. k. Legally it's 0% yours.

>>3773287
Mad and retarded and underage. Always a winning combination. Many prototypes are given to someone by the IP holder. If they want to sell them on after that that's their business. Others are bought when assets are liquidated. Both are 100% legit. You really are dumb as fuck.

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>>3773287
Fuck off.

>>3773287
Fuck off, Exy.

>>3771235
They can do whatever they want with their property, if they want to charge people to dump it they can.

If i ever found or had an unreleased game/beta i would release the shit out of it for free

>>3771235
No, they didn't make it and don't need any compensation for something, but no they just wanna jerk their massive fucking ego because they're somehow entitled to compensation for just having something, sure it's technically ok because they own it, but it's a dickmove.

>>3774247
Post a list of what you own and I'll tell you which ones I'll take off your hands without compensation.

>>3775107
Sure. I will glad give you digital copies that I can make with minimum investment.

>>3775107
It's not like anyone has to give up their copy, it's just spreading a digital version, you fucking imbicile.

>>3775502
Great. Waiting on that list.

>>3775551
And what does spreading that digital version do to the value of their previously unspread prototype? Who's the fucking imbecile?

You know, even if it did nothing to the value I'm glad the guy hasn't released the dump just because it pisses of selfentitled little shits like you guys.

>>3775962
haha i love these right-wing economic hard liners living in their parents basements.

>>3775962
You're the one who cried when Nintendo re-released Mother 1 on Virtual Console and ragequit Twitter because people were mourning the victims of the Pulse shooting.

Call me when you finally take a picture of yourself, where you don't look like a date rapist, Exy.

Would the value of the rom gone up if Hillary Clinton won?

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>>3776013
Projecting this hard. Stay assmad poorbaby.

>>3772431
>i have a feeling that this game never really existed and the guy "holding it hostage" is really an amature game dev who is using the hype of "i have an unreleased and you don't na na na na na na!" as a means of marketing his indie game
https://www.unseen64.net/2008/04/14/socks-the-cat-rocks-the-hill-unreleased/
Posted in 2008, so it's a super fucking long con if your theory is correct.

>>3773287
Calm down, it's just a stupid game about an ex-president's cat. It's not like they're sitting on the cure for cancer or something.

>>3771235
Normally games are unreleased for a reason -- they suck. Trust me, you're not missing out on anything.

>>3776150
It's actually a decent game. And although it's far from complete I'm sure the angry little child would enjoy playing it. It pleases me to know he will never get the chance.

>>3776814
It's shit no doubt, even in this silly age where games like Hagane are 'hidden gems' rather than 'shit'. Revisionist losers

>>3776831
>w
Must have been exceptionally bad when shit like Bubsy was actually released and this wasn't.

>>3776831
>no doubt
You haven't seen it? There's a video. Don't watch it though. Best not to taste sour grapes.

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>>3771235
I'm disappointed they don't release the only copy ever known to exist to the public however I also recognize that it's their property and they can do whatever the heck they want with it.

>>3777509
Best to keep a game unreleased and have people suspect its shit rather than release it and remove all doubt. Next!

>>3777551
>being too young to google for a youtube video

>>3776814
I'm sure it's fun to play, but my point is it's a mascot platformer. It's a dime-a-dozen genre, so it's not a huge loss if we never get to play it.

I wish that dude who had the crazy story about infiltrating his wealthy druggie friend's mansion to steal the mother 64 proto came back.

It was incredibly far-fetched anyway, but he kept it going a good bit.

>>3771235
You talking about that Russian who had Lord of the Clans for years, made a youtube LP of it, and refused to upload the game files anywhere for years and years until like a few months, maybe a year ago, after people stopped caring and he could no longer enjoy low-level fame as the only one to play, or have a video playthrough of, Lord of the Clans?

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>>3771235
Legal right vs Ethical right scenario.

classic bait

>>3778150
It's clearly about whether or not it's ethically right you fucking autist. Obviously the fags that do that have the legal "right" to do so. Any retard can easily see that that's not what the question is.

Maybe English just isn't your first language, but when someone asks whether or not something is "right," they're not asking whether it's "legal." Legality =/= ethics.

>>3778163
ethical right would be release
legal right would be to hold on
simple

>>3773429
No.

They were meant to be returned.

>>3778523
Top kek kid. How many prototypes have you been given? I've given and received and there has never been any doubt that it was never meant to be returned.
That's what the word give means sport. In the dictionary. In the real world. If not in your self entitled safe space.

Stay ass mad baby. Keep dreaming the self entitled dream. And by dream I mean psychotic fantasy.

>>3773287
most companies give prototypes to workers, kid. how do you think they end up at garage sales?

>>3778164
>ethical right would be release

Why would illegally dumping something that was never meant to see the day so a bunch of thieving freeloaders can steal it be the "ethical" move?

>>3779969
Because he wants free stuff?

>>3779969
I already answered this here >>3772576

I think ROM dumps help keep games alive through accessibility and redundancy. therefore, anyone who does this is being selfish and acting against the hobby as a whole.

>>3771235
I think its in their right not to release them and they are right for doing so.
They are true collectors and not listen to "community" feedback from resellers and youtube stars.

>>3771235
Yes i do. It is their stuff. I still count them as assholes though.

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>>3779969
>pirating other peoples' intellectual property is only ethical if I make money doing it

>>3780454
>count them as assholes
>i can only count to 1
Loved that movie