What's /be opinion about this game? Should I play Dreamcast

>>3760768
Sorry about the typo, I meant /VR opinion

>>3760768
Gamecube

It's... Okay. I went into it expecting something like Shining force but you only ever control four team-mates max. Ship-battles were a major let-down for me since I thought you'd be able to assign crew members to do this or that but it's not really that deep.

Either version's fine but if you decide to play the gamecube button do take note that you can press the start button at the beginning of certain attack animations to skip them. Also the gamecube version's just more refined in general.

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>>3760768
Never played the Gamecube version but a neat feature of the Dreamcast version is that the system speeds up the disc and you can hear this from the system, which lets you heal up right before a random encounter. Also the audio is better on the Dreamcast version. Another difference I heard is that the Dreamcast version has more random encounters with less exp vs the Gamecube version which has less random encounters that reward more exp.

>>3760781
how is it more refined? Just from adding more sidequests and such?

Dreamcast because a VGA box is cheaper than Gamecube component cables. The DC version also has better audio, as the GCN audio is more compressed. If you have your console hooked up to a surround sound system you'll notice it.

GC version has more content. Most people claim that it has worse audio, but I couldn't tell the difference. Also, the DC version has DLC that's a pain to get working again. I'd say go for the GC version.

>>3760807
If you used your tv speakers and don't have an ear for sound you won't notice it. I have a surround sound system for my Dreamcast and the audio is far superior. That's what happens when you have to compress an 8gb disc onto a 2gb disc.

>>3760813
I have a surround sound system, but I've never bothered to compare them side by side. All I know is that that both sound fine to me.

Also, what are you talking about disc size wise? GD-ROMs have a 1 GB capacity. GC disks have 1.5 GB capacity. Where is 8 GB coming from?

>>3760813
>far superior
Let's not exaggerate here. Besides, it's a JRPG, not a rhythm game - audio quality isn't that important.

>>3760818
Why are you still using GD-ROMs?

>>3760768
GameCube. The Dreamcast version really has nothing over it apart from audio quality, but Dreamcast fanboys will do everything in their power to convince you otherwise.

>>3760768
Its okay, I dont have really patience for jrpgs anymore but its a good game.

When they reached their peak for me with something like Chrono Ttigger and Panzer Dragoon Saga they felt boring after a while. Tactics games are another story.

Shining Force is still a great game to play to this day.

>>3760821
Dreamcast disks are GD-ROMs.

>>3760819
Do you have component cables for the Gamecube? They're expensive now, while a VGA box for the Dreamcast is cheap.

>>3760826
You're aware that the Wii is perfectly backwards compatible with GameCube games, right?

>>3760825
You mean disc, and you don't have to use GD-ROMs, you can burn games onto CD-ROMs.

>>3760827
Why would you own a Wii?

>>3760828
I was talking about the retail version.

>>3760819
>Let's not exaggerate here
He's not. The Gamecube version has really out-of-key music if you aren't tone deaf. It's also missing certain instruments in tracks and DSP effects.

>>3760831
Too expensive. Always was. Everyone pirated DC games.

>>3760829
Ask the 100 million people who bought one.

>>3760839
Old people and children?

>>3760840
Make up about 20 million sales. Double what the Dreamcast sold.

>>3760841
So you're trying to say that 18-30 year olds also bought the Wii? Fuck off.

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>>3760846
Almost two decades later and Dreamcucks are still the largest salt mines on earth.

>>3760846
My friend had a hacked Wii and only played smash bros

>anons not noticing the difference between DC and GC soundtrack
>thinking the soundtrack isn't that important on jrpg when is one of the best things of the freaking game

>>3760781
>expecting Shining Force

What the flying fuck?

>>3760768
You should play the GC version for more content, download the original soundtrack and listen to it later.
But this sure needs some HD remake with content of the GC version and DC's quality soundtrack, or some hack for the wii/dolphin.

>>3760953
>What the flying fuck?
I really liked Shining Force. I thought since it was an RPG by Sega, well... The game's still good. I just expected more.

It's a JRPG, but with the plot is a lot less idiotic, not pretending to be deep, just a fun story about some pirates fighting the tyrannical navy with their mysterious new friend.

And it's super easy to headcanon that Vyse gets both girls.

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>>3760953
>You should play the GC version for more content, download the original soundtrack and listen to it later.
But this sure needs some HD remake with content of the GC version and DC's quality soundtrack, or some hack for the wii/dolphin.

This anon is right. This game would be amazing as an HD release, or a 3DS port that combines the DC and GC version.

>>3760979
>Sega
And so is Phantasy Star. Pirates with airships vs some warriors with kingdoms in medieval era? RPG vs TRPG? You made a very big mistake that made you not loving this game for its unique adventure. Also, Overworks.

>>3760990
>And it's super easy to headcanon that Vyse gets both girls.
And both Aika and Fina seemed to be fine with that.

>>3761025
What? The 3DS is a horrible choice for a rerelease. Both audio and visual quality would suffer IMMENSELY.

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>>3761043
I'd take any re-release at this point dude, honestly

>>3761043
3DS is more powerful than Dreamcast

>>3760829
It's quick, easy, and comfy to emulate on for parties.

>>3761049
>re-release

Why bother? Just play one of the versions that already exist.

>>3761183
Y-you have parties where you play video games? If there's a better indicator that suicide is your best option in life I haven't discovered it.

>>3760829
If you're on /vr/ and don't have a backup Wii for emulation purposes you're doing something wrong. I got mine for $10 at a thrift store
>>3761416
normies love nostalgia, who doesn't want to play some NBA Jam?

>>3760846
>being this utterly delusional

This thread turned cancerous real fast.

>>3761445
Why would I use a Wii for emulation?

>>3761464
It outputs 240p natively and can be backed in about 5 minutes. Pretty much any other emulation solution doesn't support 240p, or takes old GPUs and custom drivers to get it going on a PC. Also a used Wii is cheaper than a Raspberry Pi, or a miniPC of some kind. It's a really great emulation box for the price to performance ratio. Not to mention you can run GCN and Wii games from an HDD, without emulation, which is nice.

>>3761479
I can run everything better and easier on my PC and I don't need to bother with hooking up a fucking wii in my house.

>>3761483
If you don't care about 240p then you have no business being on /vr/.

>>3761484
If I want to I can hook any of my consoles up to a PVM with RGB. I bet you don't even SCART, plen.

>>3761491
You're clearly lying since you don't know what 240p is but claim to know how to RGB. Back to /r/retrogaming pleb.

>>3761496
>don't know what 240p is
Yes, anon. It is a big /vr/ secret that only you and some other club members know of. Give me a break. Go back to your waggle console, kid, and stop spouting things you know nothing of. I bet you use composite like the faggot you are. You dumb, fat yanks have never understood RGB.

Whatever version you can play is fine. The game's a great RPG with a lot of content as it is.
There's ways to get the DLC for the DC version, but the GC version comes with the DLC as well as more additional content, so that's the definitive version of the game.

>>3761504
>yuropoor
>50hz
>yank

top fucking kek

>>3761516
>amerifat
>never the same colour
>yuropoor

top fucking kek

>>3761519
>composite over SCART
>50hz
>US GOLD
wew

>>3761521
>thinking SCART is a signal
>never the same colour
>acclaim

>>3760850

We can harvest their tears and create the largest canyon on earth for no reason.

>>3761416

>implying you can't invite a girl over for wii tennis and then fuck her

Or

>implying you can't invite a guy over for wii tennis and then fuck him

You're not doing it right

>>3761556
Keep rationalising your waggle box, virgin.

>>3761554
We're already doing that with President Trump.

>>3761559

Stinky hat

>>3761560

Haha cheers

>>3761416
Someone on /vr/ telling people to kill themselves because they're autistically triggered by others owning an incredibly convenient /vr/ machine is a pretty big indicator imo

>>3760828
CD-ROMs have less space than GD-ROMS...

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>>3761456
its a shame too, as I tried to coax people to post more Skies of Arcadia art but they are too busy argueing over my re-release comment.

>>3760807
>I couldn't tell the difference.
You must be deaf.

>>3760781
>gamecube button do take note that you can press the start button at the beginning of certain attack animations to skip them
This works on Dreamcast.

>>3760813
DC discs are only 1GB.

>>3760768
I thought Dreamcast and Gamecube was not retro, aka not /vr/ related?

>>3762552
Dreamcast is honorary /vr/

>>3760768
Dreamcast version isn't censored the GameCube is

>>3762597
How so?

>>3762605
The dancer in the sand nigger world is covered up on the Cube.

>>3762552
Did you just scroll past the sticky while wanking it to kiddie porn or did you just ignore it on purpose to start a fight?

all these comments comparing the music and nobody's mentioned the best version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YToVOv-99S8

>>3762617
why make assumptions like that about a person?

it could have been doing both.

>>3760768
Dreamcast

If you're emulating on PC, you may run into problems with the GC version. The DC one runs perfectly, though you need to look at a guide for the Chams because there's no VMU.

>>3762665
awesome

Literally the only advantage to the Cube version is less grinding and a new mission where you have to fight OC donut steal versions of Vyse and co.

>>3760768
So let's run down the assets here:

Gamecube:
>lowered encounter rate
>increased exp/gold yield to compensate
>more discoveries
>moonfish to find
>more ship battles
>Piastol battles
>bounty hunter battles
>bonus plot exposition

Dreamcast:
>Pinta's Quest on VMU
>better audio quality

And depending on your sound system, the difference varies. I'm a bit of an audiophile, and even I think the GC version is the way to go. The bounty hunter battles alone are worth it, they are extremely challenging, and since they scale with your level, there's no cheesing it. Some of the most satisfying JRPG battles I've ever had.

>>3762681
It's like you never even played it. See: the rest of my post.

>>3762749
You forgot less censorship under the Dreamcast pros, Nintendildo.

>>3762767
>giving a shit about outfit alterations over literal HOURS of extra content
Faggot.

>>3762772
>trying to justify censorship

>>3762772
>muh extra content
Nobody cares about your pointless filler shit.

>>3762772
The Dreamcast version is the definitive, better version.
The GameCube one tacked on a bunch of excess needless bullshit.

>>3762749
>lower encounter rate

So the GameCube version is for babbies who can't handle random battles. Gotcha.

>>3760768
gc version has a lot of extras and faster loading
dc version has higher quality music

if you only play the dc version, you're missing out on the piastol storyline (reoccurring fight) and bounties. (8 boss fights)
also an extra endgame boss that has a boner.
vyse also gets a new final weapon and theres that 1st person moonfish shooting minigame throughout the game.

theres probably some more minor stuff i don't remember. like i think the final cupil gets nerfed

>>3763265
>I don't know the difference between challenge and frustration abloobloobloo

>>3763404
t. casual

>>3763404
>finding fucking Skies of Arcadia frustrating

Holy Nintoddler, Batman!

>>3763265
>t. never played either version

The encounters aren't even slightly difficult. Just annoying. Entering random battles quite literally every 1-14 seconds is not fun or challenging. It's just tedious, annoying filler.

How about playing the game before forming an opinion, you shit-smeared retard?

>>3763463
>i play video games for the story, fuck gameplay, that's goddamn filler

>>3762774
>boss battles are pointless filler shit
What a fag.

This thread is why I hate 4chan

>>3764947
Gaycube fag detected.

>>3764947

Everyone's a faggot, including you