ITT you post your current systems and others suggest your next

Windows 2000 with Pentium 4
Windows XP with Core2Quad

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Here's what I got. I don't want anything else.

I have a lot (10-15 depending on what you count, some have been cannibalized) of old PCs in the Pentium Pro/Pentium II generations. Most originally had windows 95 or 98 but many have been overwritten in the intervening decades during my early experiments with linux, BSD, etc.

A handful of older or newer ones too. An HP desktop with an early pentium 4 that I still use for web browsing and file hosting occasionally, some 486 towers and assorted ancient laptops.

I collected them mostly in the early 2000s when many people were upgrading to windows XP machines and throwing out their old ones. As a kid I learned a lot about computers from messing with them. I used to try to keep all of them set up at once in a "computer lab" in my parent's basement. Now they have all been disconnected and stacked in a corner somewhere. Honestly I'd like to give them away if I knew I could get them to someone who would actually use them. I know some of the higher end 90s video cards I have may actually be of use to people interested in certain retro PC games.

>>3746954

Why would you give them away? There aren't any youngsters who give a crap about old computers and the people who actually do care about old computers are willing to pay their fair market price which is actually pretty good right now.

>>3747048
It seems like a lot of hassle to try to send them in the mail, and the shipping cost would probably be more than what the machines/parts are even worth.

I'm also under the impression that retro PC gamers are interested mostly in machines much older than mine, like in the OP pic. If that's not true, where would I even find someone to sell them to? If I don't get rid of them, my parents will throw them away someday, since I still don't have anywhere to keep them other than their basement. If that's going to be their fate anyway, I'd rather they at least go to someone who can still use them. If I posted them on craigslist I'm 90% sure they'd be picked up by scrappers who are just going to strip them for precious metals.

>>3746841
You might want something like XP with a little more modern hardware. There's plenty of stuff that works better with modern hardware that doesn't work well on 95. Lots of driver issues.

>>3746928
That's some serious autism you've got there.

>>3746841
OS/2 or eComStation

>>3747063

You might be right, they are taking up a bunch of space. Just pains me to think that someday they will be rare as fuck, especially like as you said, they are being processed for metals eventually they will be near extinct.

>>3746928
>>3746915
You don't want anything other than Windows systems? There's a lot to learn in exploring something more obscure, although it's true that the game selection doesn't exactly get any bigger. It does enable you to compare the same game across releases, if that's what you're into.

>>3746928
wow, I can't even imagine using windows for more than 15 minutes, much less having 30-40 machines dedicated to windows.

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Is this the retro computers thread? Because it didn't seem like it from the topic. I do have a retro PC it's just a P3 with some appropriate Radeon and a Voodoo (and real Sound Blaster). I feel like it plays all the games my i7 primary rig doesn't.

I have a lot of laptops and more Windows tablets/slates than most people

If I were actually going to invest money in a computer it would be in a retro Japanese one probably an MSX2 with an FDE, like a HitBit.

OP would most likely get more out of a PC-98 though. It's even a DOS machine so fully within his comfort zone, and adds thousands of games to his available library.

If I was still at a phase in my life where I was trying to waste time I'd get my A500 working but I feel like my wife and kid would have to be dead for me to get around to that.

>>3747624
TempleOS

>>3746954
If you ship internationally I'd be interested

>>3747825
There's no way that would cost less than thousands of dollars, unfortunately.

>>3748030
I was talking about one, not your whole collection but yeah maybe. Don't they have one of those flat rate boxes?

>>3748176
>>3747825
Do you even know where he lives? Maybe it's your neighbour!

>>3746841
>that Sharp MZ
Noice.
>>3747739
>It's even a DOS machine
Most PC DOS games wont run on it cause it's not a PC-compatible machine and it doesn't have the same video modes as VGA cards.

>>3746841
Got quite a few computers, both not PC-compatibles and compatibles -- I've got everything from early 90s 486 DOS machines to late 90s Pentium III stuff + a late 80s laptop when it comes to PC compatibles, as well as an Amiga 500, a To7/70, an Amstrad CPC, an Atari ST and a (non-working) PC-9801N. My next purchases? Maybe a Sun UltraSPARC worsktation or an MSX computer (a low-profile desktop case Sony or Philips MSX2 would be the best).

>>3748242
>Most PC DOS games wont run on it cause it's not a PC-compatible machine and it doesn't have the same video modes as VGA cards.
Yeah, I know but you already have plenty of machines to run those games on.

MacOS9, OSX and MorphOS:
Mac G4 mdd dual 1.25Ghz with (just bought it, will upgrade next week to sata raid0 ssd, radeon 9250, sound blaster live!, max ram)

Win 98:
Pentium e6500k, 4CoreDual-SATA2, geforce 7900 GS / Voodoo 4 4500, yamaha labway xwave 6000 / Aureal vortex 2, Raid0 on SSD

WinXP (for EAX), WinXP64(for mame with crtemudriver)/Win7 (for modern games and lurk) :
i7 920, geforce GTX460 / Radeon HD 4300 (for crtemudriver/mame), 6xSSD raid0,creative x-fi elite pro

>>3748193
Dude, it's not like he can actually ship his imaginary collection so if you're going to let him pretend he has it let him pretend it costs thousands to ship a PC.
Because when you buy a PC online for $500 they loose thousands on it because of shipping. lol.

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>>3748556
Since this guy is bullying me I took some pictures.

There are 11 "towers" in these two pics, although they are hard to see since all the stuff is just haphazardly piled up with other junk. There are a few more PCs and a bunch of other assorted hardware scattered around in other places that I didn't photograph. As you can see it's almost all "PC beige" pentium and pentium II era stuff.

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I also found some older pics I took last year before my parents had their basement painted.

This is mostly video cards and sound cards. I don't know where these ended up since the drawers they are in are gone now, but they're probably buried in plastic bins like the ones you see in the other pic.

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More towers (all of these are in the first picture I believe).

I wish I could find a photo from back when they were all set up. I had like a bunch of long, low tables arranged in a U shape with PCs all over the place. Everything was messy and close to the ground because it was set up by a kid!

>>3748593
>bullying
Top kek kid

>>3748608
oh look a voodooo

>>3748608
Why is that Voodoo 2 in a pile of shit?

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>>3746841
Recently sold the XT clone to a museum.

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>>3748608
>dat Voodoo 2
I was thinking of putting a second one into this old sucker.

>>3749832
SLI is double the fun!

>>3749880
literary

>>3749880
>>3749886
Actually it's not double, its around 80% more fun. It won't scale that perfectly.

>>3749880
while you can get 1024x768 with SLI, not every game supports this resolution. but if you use the metabyte driver you can force games to run at it.

>>3748608
>junk1.jpg
I agree to disagree

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Specs:
Windows 98 SE
Pentium III Coppermine 1000MHz
Nvidia Geforce4 Ti4200
2x 12MB Voodoo2 in SLI
Aureal Vortex sound card

Playing through Deus Ex on glide mode right now. I've actually shitposted from here on multiple occasions with Opera and KernelEx

>>3746954
Shit, where do you live? Where I am most of the old machines have been scrapped, we have a huge recycling operation in my city as well as for-profit scrappers. So finding anything pre-Core2Duo locally is very difficult. Yes, even Pentium 4s are rare.
Most of my stuff I get from eBay and you know how prices are like on there. I tend to get okay deals from junk lots sold by scrappers who don't know/care what they have. Always untested and sometimes shipped like absolute garbage, but still works most of the time.

>>3750283
Sorry, I didn't mean to imply.

>>3750339
The stuff I posted lives in northern virginia.

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>>3746841
NeXTcube or NeXTstation

>>3751395
...Do you have game recommendations for the Nextstep OS? Games which I can't play to the fullest extent on my current systems?

>>3751767
You won't be playing games on Arch eather.
Just another system to mess around with.

>>3751767
MazeWar

>>3751840
Kek, that would be awesome.

>>3751767
Doom supposedly runs a fuckton better on NeXTStations than on PCs of the era. No sound though.

>>3752265
Well, a Pentium with VGA is _probably_ still going to run it better than any NeXTStation, with sound.

>>3752270
Pentiums weren't around when Doom was released IIRC, or at least not very common.

>>3752276
Well, if you have a Pentium, you will still play Doom on it, instead of being period correct and use a 486, to be fair, most DX4's play Doom already perfectly, can't see the NeXT machine being any better experience if it's even without sound.

>>3752282
I haven't tried it personally, but it was something about higher resolution. And of course, if you're not trying to be period correct you could just use an i7-7700k with gzdoom and it's gonna be a lot better than a 486, a Pentium, or a NeXT.

>>3752286
There's a difference playing a source port or the original. At least use DOSBox if we are talking about the original Doom.

>>3746841
NEXT an arcade machine

>>3746841
How about a....EIGHT BINARY DIGIT MICROCOMPUTER!

>>3746928
>Professor
>Not Processor
Your autism is not powerful enough, I'm afraid.

>>3753823
Topkek

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If a game is listed as being operable on multiple OSs, is it really always better to go with the newest OS or sometimes is it better to stick with an older one? Most common example is something like "Windows 95/Windows 98"

Then I've got some games like Myst 2: Riven, which claim they are for either Win98 or Macintosh OS. How can you decide if it would be better played on Windows or Mac?

>>3753823
>i can't wun wiff on my profeffor
The guy who decided to put an s in lisp was a sick mean fucker.

>>3753885
>>3753890
Do you have to advertise on /vr/? Seriously?

>>3753856
You play even version and then decide.
Also read forums and look at footages from different versions.

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>>3746928
>Using windows 10
>Ever

>>3753993
>I'm on /vr/ so I can't play /v/ games
Windows 10 is still the best gayming OS.

>>3753890
>oldschool
>DDR1 & DDR2
WTF dude! I was sitting in my arm chair, smoking a pipe and sipping a nice single malt when your underage punk ass made me spit a mouthful on the screen. I'm not expecting you kids to thread core memory or something but can you please not call things made within your life time "old school"?
>mfw he's younger than a P5

>>3754008
Welcome to /vr/.
I have a box of dip memory if that will cheer you up.

>>3754019
This is /neov/
I've got a cabinet full of dip memory. It does cheer me up that you're not hoarding much.

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>>3754224
>using the term neo-/v/

>>3754224
Cabinet? Man, with my boxful I could already fit memory for half a thousand X64's or at least a few dozen IBM-PCs

>>3754632
C64*

>>3753856
For modern gaming Vista the latest you can go without having the microsoft botnet framework up your ass datamining you.
Linux should be strongly considered. It actually has better compatibility with older windows software using WINE than 7/8.1/10.

<going further back>

WinXP 32bit (not 64bit) is considered to have the best compatibility for late 90s early 2000s PC games. It is also easy to find drivers for.
I prefer Win2k over XP because it is very lightweight, snappy and needs no activation.

<going further back>

WinME is worthless as its DOS functionality was crippled in addition to adding extra bloat and instability.
Win98SE is reccomended to play late 90s PC games (many don't work on 2K/XP) and also natively play DOS games without having to use DOSbox.
Win95 has much less drivers, stability and no USB than 98; not reccomended.
Win3.1 is pointless since 3.1 games can be played on any 32 bit windows.

<going further back>

DOS 6.22 is perfect for a pure DOS machine like 486 or Pentium.
Older PCs like 286 and IBM 8086 will need an older, lighter version of DOS to run properly.
PCbooter games need no OS at all just insert the disk and turn on the PC.
As for Mac or PC the ports between them are nowhere near as bad as PC<--->console ports so either is fine.

>>3754883
>I prefer Win2k over XP because it is very lightweight, snappy and needs no activation.
Windows 2000 is god-tier. You can throw it on almost anything and it will work like a charm. The only thing it is really lacking compared to XP is wifi handled by the OS, but even that can be rectified.

>Win95 has much less drivers, stability and no USB than 98; not reccomended.
Windows 95 can have USB support, although it is somewhat clunky compared to 98. In my experience 95 is more stable than most versions of 98 though.

>DOS 6.22 is perfect for a pure DOS machine like 486 or Pentium.
It has been a long time since I used DOS, but from what I remember that was a good one. Of course DOS clones like FreeDOS could also be a good choice.

Is Win98SE fine on a 166MHz Pentium with 128 megabytes of RAM, or should I hunt down Win95 OSR2 instead? The machine doesn't have USB so that's not an issue.

>>3748593
dust man dust

>>3754632
Well if that's all you work with then I suppose that's all you need. But I work with a lot of systems and need a lot of types of RAM. Just having the increments from 1-256 in SRAM and DRAM is already quite a few, not even counting access times. Then there's the few odd bits that are 4 or 16 bit and some PSRAM.
I also don't like pricking my fingers rummaging through a box of random shit so I store them in a component cabinet like everyone whos not retarded does. And with more than two dozen types of RAM I don't have the time to dig though a box like a jewish grandmother holding up the the checkout line digging through her coin purse trying to pay exact change.

>>3755334
>a box means they are loosely and randomly
Obviously they are on antistatic foam slabs sorted by type, timings and sizes in several pairs.
Even when keeping them in a cabinet you would push the legs into antistatic foam to avoid damage or are you too retarded to come up with that?

>>3754883
>Older PCs like 286 and IBM 8086 will need an older, lighter version of DOS to run properly.
>IBM 8086

IBM PC used 8088 you dip.

>>3754941
>Of course DOS clones like FreeDOS could also be a good choice.
For gaming? Nope.

>>3755351
Are there any DOS clones with good compatibility, then? What about the shell implemented by dosbox?

>>3755678
DOSBox is made to be compatible, the shell implement is exactly what it is, an implement, it's not a true DOS, it's hard coded together with DOSBox.

>>3755848
But there are no other free DOS clones that aim for good compatibility?

>>3755959
Google, I don't think so, FreeDOS is the best compatibility wise of free DOS clones and it's not perfect. If you want to DOS game go with 6.22, newest real DOS there was, it's not like your going to run into compatibility issues running it on right hardware.

Is MS-DOS software compatible with PC-DOS and DR-DOS?

>>3756315
Mostly.

>>3755347
I keep them in tubes sport. Takes less space and offers better protection. I guess me and the rest of the world are retarded. I guess that also explains why you need a box to store a few chips. The box is 80% full of foam. How do you store your SMD? Do you glue them to your foam. kek

>>3756376
Sorry, I don't use them for work and do it as a hobby, I'm not going to put up cabinets just for that.

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damn you people with your cabinets and boxes of junk reminds me exactly of those fat smug neckbeards with glasses that think they are so smart about old shit nobody gives a fuck about

>>3756461
I didn't mean to become this way anon, I just spent my childhood collecting as many slightly obsolete bits and pieces of technology as possible instead of doing normal childhood things.

Now I'm truly a neckbearded loser (not fat at least) with (uncorrected) bad eyesight from staring into flickery CRT monitors for my whole life.

>>3756461

Fuck off normie.

>>3746841
Amiga. Specially for gayming.

>>3746841
hmm i want a turbo express

>>3756438
Just because somethings a hobby doesn't mean you have to be a disorganized slob. Just because you're not a fashion model doesn't mean you should keep all your clothes in a box.

>>3758584
I don't actively use them, they are packed away on antistatic foam in little bags in boxes. Far more than your "hurr 80% is foam".

Stop being such a obvious faggot.

>>3758752
>i don't really have any
>but ill brag that they're 90% foam
WTF dude. Why even drag this gag out if there's no punch line?

>>3759213
Shit bait or difficulties understanding english.

>>3749806
Very cool anon

I want to transfer files from my Win7 rig to a Win98SE machine over LAN, what's the best method? The old machine doesn't have USB, so that's out of the question.

>>3759846
ftp

>>3759846
An FTP server on the Win7 rig. That's what I do with mine, and transfering files on other PCs is really, really easy thanks to that.

>>3759576
>BTFO
>b-b-but you don't understand english
lol

>>3759846
Just use a plain old windows share. You don't need an FTP server. Just share a folder on the windows 7 machine over the network and make sure file shares are turned on for the win98 machine.

>>3759856
>>3759859
Yeah, I was overthinking things as usual. I grabbed ftpdmin and it's absolutely perfect, thanks for hammering some sense into me.

>>3759934
An FTP server has the advantage that you can share files with non-windows machines too (DOS, OS/2, or even non-PC compatible hooked to the network).

>>3759951
True, especially for older systems, but a lot of non-windows platforms do have an implementation of samba.

I remember sharing files between machines in the windows 95 era with a direct parallel cable connection. Anything is better than that.

>>3760012
On Windows 2000 FTP servers can be accessed just like shared directories anyway thanks to the windows explorer, I don't know about 98/95 though.
>I remember sharing files between machines in the windows 95 era with a direct parallel cable connection. Anything is better than that.
The worst I've tried was transfering Doom 2 from one DOS machine to another through a null-modem serial cable at 9600 baud. Shit took so long holy shit. The worst is that I learned that I could have set a baudrate way higher, like 38400 baud or something.

The fuck is this arcane bullshit?
>install Win98SE on top of DOS 6.22
>both work fine, it's all happy fun times
>except 98's DOS mode makes jazz.exe immediately crash and reboot the machine
>booting into the previous version of DOS works fine, except it keeps adamantly refusing to load anything into the upper memory ever, no matter how many ways I try to type in DEVICEHIGH or LH

>>3760072
Run memmaker and don't forget to allocate enough memory for COMMAND.COM afterward. Check the HELP command for more informations on how to do so.

>>3746928
>gtx 480
It's a miracle your house hasn't burned down.

>>3760085
It just whines at me about a corrupt memmaker.sts (which didn't even exist when I began), 0 changes were made and "your computer's memory was already optimally configured :^)"

I wouldn't be as asshurt if I was having these problems all along, but the very same config.sys/autoexec.bat files were good for 600 odd kB of extended memory to begin with, the 98 install apparently has magic powers to prevent the CD drivers from loading into high memory. Something that worked just fine a couple days ago with the exact same files.

>>3759875
Obviously. Glad you got it.

>>3759951
>non-windows machines too (DOS, OS/2
You know there's a MS network client for DOS and OS/2 that works fine even with Win10 shares?

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>>3750339
Update. Got some Yamaha speakers from Goodwill. Now everything is beige and it makes me warm inside.

>>3760862
You need a retro lamp

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>>3760884
I have one of these things, would that work?

>>3760891
That would look really out of place on that dork desk with it's proudly displayed dell shite.

>>3760884
The lamp he already has quite much fits the bill.

>>3747146
>>3747063
I'm in the same boat, or was. The study in my house looked like a PC graveyard so I rounded up all the old cases I had, stripped any useful components or HDDs out of them and gave them to Goodwill. Kinda hurt to let them go, especially since I'm a packrat/borderline hoarder, but I just couldn't justify keeping any of them around any longer. They weren't THAT old, anyway.

Now shit like my old Commodore 64 that I've had since I was a kid, etc., I doubt I'll ever part with.

>>3746841
Something something something PC-98