CYBERBULLY

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=== NEWS ===

[Til 4-1] QUMP is still going!
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Zlfb2U2VCeS70uS6Klc2ZEOC9KtnYyCyBXEmeetjh0c/edit

[Til 3-15] Dropbox will be dropping support of public folders in mid-March; now is a good time to mirror any Doom-relevant files available through this

[Til 1-16] Highway to Hell still in progress; submission cutoff (not deadline) in a few days
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/3708114/#3713252

[1-11] sock releases a new map for Arcane Dimensions
http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61398

[1-11] GZDoom 2.3.2 released
http://forum.drdteam.org/viewtopic.php?t=7482

[1-10] NoClip (Doom 4 Documentary) to do an interview series, starting with John Romero
https://twitter.com/dannyodwyer/status/818531973815791622

[1-10] New bug tracker for the ZDoom family
http://mantis.zdoom.org/view_all_bug_page.php?project_id=0

[1-10] Speedrunner Cyberdemon531 banned from AGDQ
https://www.reddit.com/r/speedrun/comments/5mt6z7/cyberdemon531_is_also_banned_from_agdq/

[1-9] Water Spirit beta released, a three-level WAD made by JPCP's Burabojunior/Manbou
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/92390-water-spirit-wad/

[1-7] Randi discontinues ZDoom development (GZDoom and QZDoom are fine)
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=54883

[1-6] /newstuff Chronicles 524 is posted.
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/doomworld-news/92342-the-newstuff-chronicles-524/

[1-6] D4D has changed hands, now on github
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=54843
https://github.com/MajorCooke/Doom4Doom

[1-2] PowerslaveEX Source code released
https://github.com/svkaiser/PowerslaveEX

[1-1] RetroJam 6 for Quake has been released. 16 maps in total!
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61391

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PROTIP: If you would like to submit any news or your personal map or mod releases here, please reply/backlink to this post and make OP's job easier.

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There's something kind of refreshing about mapsets where the author uses mostly just DeHacked to do very simple but effective things.

I wish more people would mimic Alpha Incident and Nihility in that sense.

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Also not enough people are using the Alpha and Beta resources, despite them being easy to find and fit Doom's aesthetic style very well.

>>3735338
>>3735339
DeHacked work is always pretty charming cause it was the original DECORATE basically.

Someone mentioned a modern UT99 renderer a few threads ago? Where's it at?

>>3735339
I still don't understand why this pile of bodies or that hellish landscape wall texture were never used in the retail, they look great, especially when used episodically.

I always appreciate it when mapsets are able to pull of high quality visuals while staying within the original engine's limits. Gives me the impression that the authors pay attention to what they're doing, and make use of sector detail more intelligently. Visuals that take advantage of the removed/raised limits of source ports can be good, but theres also more room for potential goofiness.

>>3735339
doomguy leaves the bodies

>>3735381
Sort of, but the charm is in someone working within particular limitations and making something pretty good with what little is available.

Decorate basically became Dehacked without the static limits, and went far beyond whatever anyone could imagine Dehacked could do, and that's amazing in it's own right, but I like seeing content creators challenge themselves.

>>3735339
looks like an incoherent mess 2bh

>>3735440
You can always use DeHacked to give your wad a 90s flavor.

>>3735257
sure, I'd pick shit over UDV any day.

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>>3735443
>dead bodies piled on top of each other looks like an incoherent mess
Gee, you think so?

Would you rather look at a more tidy locker room?

this is looking neat.

http://www.moddb.com/mods/zbloody-hell

>>3735079
>Not sure about calling it Doom Builder 3, since it'll still technically be based on Doom Builder 2's codebase (Doom Builder 2 was called that because it was a complete rewrite from the original Doom Builder, with no code in common).
who gives a shit?

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Platform puzzles are basically white noise of map design.

>>3735567
add too many and ye gonna have to prepare for bitching as some people have little patience for them.
I for instance dont like them but I will put up with them if they are rare and not too challenging.

>>3735310
The news haven't been updated in quite a while....

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woah so pretty

>>3735595
Is that a town saw in the distance or...?

>DBT quit D4D just to make a D4D clone for his fucking phone

>>3735601
>MaxEd quit GZDB just to feel better about his UI

>>3735595
who dis

>>3735595
what wad?

>>3735618
it's yo boi soufsider, who dis is

>>3734592
>>3735162
>>3734879
>>3734890

Why not Collab for our first map? I have a poor attention span, but i'm sure multiple people hacking away at a single "first map" could work.

My premise:
This map shall be using liberal use of "gimmicks" and DoomRL Arsenal+Monster to make it fresh/new/interesting. It could use the "tricks and traps" thematic; making the environment just as dangerous as the enemies.

The idea would be to slowly introducing new weapons and enemies; and also building up onto the detail every time the player returns to the central hub, which is where the exit is.

Map-theme wise, I was thinking infested techbase with a sprig of Ancient Aliens

The player's first encounter would be with standard imps; but one could see the first Cyber-Imp in the middle of the room. You cannot kill or damage this until you have killed all the other imps; much like would be with the other new threats.

Each one would have an interesting arena to work with; and slowly mix in more types of the same monster until culminating in the final battle which mixes in every new threat.

Sneaky use of monsters would be grand; I can see a lot of potential with making sniping platforms for Mechstrocities which slowly lower as you're dealing with the other pinkie variants. When those are cleared out, then you have to deal with them charging at you.

The hellstorm elemental would likely need to be introduced with an infight and a lot of terrain.

>>3735623
ninja dis is anon here
who wad dis is

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Does anyone have that infographic guide about making 3D models and porting them to sprites?
I keep running into sprite issues and I'm at the point where I'm going to take matters into my own hands and do my own thing.

I am desperately trying to ignore the fact that I'm going to need to spend at least a year getting acquainted with the program and another year learning how to make models worth a damn.

>>3735308

Hey does anybody know how to do this:

I wanna set my resolution in q/zdoom to 320x200 but I want to scale it all by 2x. (and played in a window)

That is to say I want it to render the scenery as if it was 320x200 but im not interested in actually running it as 320x200 fullscreen.

I asked a while ago about some sort of abstract wad; but somebody said it was Equinox which I know for a fact it wasn't.

For further detail; there was a set of floating "rib-like" transparent green tentacles for a hallway somewhere; and the maps were generally very claustrophobic. This tentacle-pipe precluded a bossfight that probably involved a couple of cyberdemons

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>>3735632
Why not use Chocolate or Crispy? Anyway, try this https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=53250
It's a shader, but it's pretty faithful.

>>3735643
Zdoom mods

I have openGL 1.4 which means my graphical architecture does not recognize shaders.

>>3735670
https://zdoom.org/wiki/Command_line_parameters

Configuration options

-2
Forces all video modes to use pixel doubling, resulting in the final video mode being two times larger than specified.

-4
Forces all video modes to use pixel quadrupling, resulting in the final video mode being four times larger than specified.

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Trying to fiddle with mapping; think i got the hang of it in some form.

Problem being; this. How to fix?

There should not be visible door textures in the middle; there should not be a random floor patch that is a differing texture; the modes and controls seem to randomly change in how they function; and I don't know how to place custom things.

What it SHOULD look like (the walls aren't textured yet) is a star/pentagram shaped room, with a teleport pad in the middle, with the Unmaker ontop of the middle platform.

>>3735631
hi term

>>3735673

thanks man!

Also is there any way to keep it from scaling the normal graphics? I really hate that but even setting QZdoom to 320x200 its still scaling the weapons despite not needing to.

> QZ is supposed to be an extension or fork of Zdoom but my 2.8.1 Zdoom doesnt have this particular problem.

>>3735690

'Sup.

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>>3735631
ganbatte

>>3735695

Good shit, thanks.

>>3735621
>>3735618
>>3735598
e2m4 redux .pk3

Is it better to create the skeleton of a level first with no detail and basic sectors or detail each room at a time? I can't seem to work on a single level for more than a few days without scraping it.

>>3735682
anyone?

>>3735592
Unless you're reading the dates back to front, it's as up to date as it can be for now.

>Remember - it's the developer who spends hours upon hours toiling and sweating over this work that has the power to completely stop development. Your little "issues" mean absolutely nothing compared to that.
>this is what the zdoom devs actually believe

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>White Imps on Colourful Hell

>>3735763
oh shit so that's what I'm doing wrong. I'm sorry

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>>3735779
sorry for what

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>>3735780

>>3735627
right so you cant map for shit but you wanna put shitload of features in.
just because you put sprinkles on a turd that doesnt mean its gonna be tasty
learn to make a generic techbase with decent layout and encounters, THEN think of collabing on big ideas.

>>3735682
See that brick shit in the sky? Raise the ceiling of that sectors(s) to match the ceiling height of beams. Set the ceiling of teleport pad sector to match the nearest sector. Set the floor of teleport pad sector just 8 units higher or whatever value you want to raise teleporter platform over the floor than floor of neighbouring sector. Then just rightclick sector with mismatched brick -floor- flat (texture) to similar to the ones you want to do. Remove any upper and middle textures from lines that make teleport pad sector. This is just a blind guess as I have no idea what the hell is going on on your map.

Anybody got a list of DRLA assemblies for a coward like me?

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>>3735863

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Send help.

>>3735382
http://www.cwdohnal.com/utglr/

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>>3735798
pic related

>>3735859
Mostly scrapped it and started a new map.

Didn't figure it was related to the ceiling height.

Give me a direction. I'm learning the thing and have several ideas; but not the skill to make them yet.

Give me goals to work towards for early maps.

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>>3735907

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>>3735798
>implying a collab map wouldn't be better and easier period as it would allow two or more people to discuss and work on a single map.

even fucking id did it this way.

>>3735907
have you considered that highway to hell thing?

could be good for a couple short, quick maps.

>>3735921
I heard about it, but know nothing about it.

There is likely DUMP, but that's even above my skill level; and not what i'm looking for. This is less of a "theme" problem and more of a "how the hell do i do this?"

Figured out basic crusher, teleporter, doors.

>>3735907
Try recreating your favourite doom map, it can put you against mechanics you want to learn and some mechanics you might've not even considered

>>3735934
If you get stuck you can consult youtube, chubzdoomer has an excellent few videos that he explains very well

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>>3735310
https://github.com/kduske/TrenchBroom/releases/tag/v2.0.0-RC1

>This is the first release candidate for TrenchBroom 2.0.0. We expect a stable build to be released in approximately four weeks.

>>3735961
Oh shit

>>3735961
damn that looks sex

>>3735907
make something thats fun to play. add a bunch of rooms, playtest and keep adding stuff until its a lot of fun and a challenge to play through.

Having one area able to see another area that you can't access yet is always cool.

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>>3735961
Man Tranchbroom is fun, but I don't think I could ever actually use it to make anything substantial. I barely have enough creativity to make interesting Doom maps as is.

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oh boy here we go

>>3736039
>https://github.com/kduske/TrenchBroom/releases/tag/v2.0.0-RC1

I'd honestly like to work with doombuilder more in first-person. Feels more natural to be able to adjust the heights and things.

>>3735308
I love barrel.

>>3735961
How good is this compared to other map editors for Quake

>>3736091
Probably the most user friendly map editor for Quake you can get from what I hear.

>>3736043
>doombuilder more in first person
What if there was an editor like in Cube/Cube 2, where you spawn in a map like you're actually playing it but you can edit it too?

>>3736080
Do you really mean that anon?

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Soon I am done with most of the misc.-area shit. I need to figure out how finale will be ( well, it can be tackled from get-go, but the sort of invasion-style encounter perhaps? )

I guess I'll release next version of my mapset afterwards, with the new map added and some Boom-related issues fixed, plus some balance-fixes ( defang map02 a bit ).

>>3736039
I'd recommend moving off to GZDoom Builder. It's better overall, even if you aren't going to use fancy GZDoom features.

>>3735961
What is the difference between Standard and Valve map format?

>>3736123
>GZdoombuilder

well fuck where has that been.

>>3736138
"Well, let's see-
holy fuck anon

got anything less overwhelming to use for mapping?

>>3735904
not baiting, just saying that if you are shit at mapping, pairing up without being able to contribute will make you an ideas guy.
aka shit noone needs

Huh, I never knew Trenchbroom had a grid view similar to GZDoom Builder. That makes things a whole lot easier.

>>3736145
its hardly overwhelming, chill out & watch some youtube tutorials if you are confused. nothing is going to hold your hand through map making.

>>3736145
literally the only worthwile tool out there
you dont need most of the buttons you see on screenshots

>>3736137
Valve map format is for Valve games, obviously. GoldSrc's maps are Quake maps with extra shit, but they're still Quake maps at heart.

Assuming you're mapping for Quake and not Half-Life, use Standard format.

Just realised that vanilla doesn't have a linedef trigger for stair building on hitscan attack. Does this sort of trigger exist in a source port?

>>3736138
>>3736145
>>3736167
Shame it's completely dead now.

>>3736220
Maybe someday we'll get a competent enough developer to pick up the slack who has a skin thicker than wet line paper.

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>>3736226
>>3736160
whats with the salty shitposts?

>>3736209
Oh, that's pretty cool. If I'm understanding right, does that mean I could use TB instead of something like Hammer to make a Half-Life map, or does it just add the GoldSrc features for use in the Quake games?

>>3736230
IIRC you can use TB instead of Hammer, yeah. After all Hammer is just the old Quake editor Worldcraft with a different name.

A number of GoldSrc/id tech 2 features have been implemented in Quake by various custom compilers and sourceports already (colored lighting, breakable objects, func_detail for props that don't impact vis time, etc).

>>3736235
So would it technically be possible to create a source port of Quake that was advanced enough to play Half-Life?

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>oblige map generator
>start is outdoor area with 30 cacodemons and 5 archvilles in the distance.

>>3736240
Quake will already play Half-Life maps, kind of. Remove anything in the HL map that would make Quake outright crash and it'll load it.

>>3736265
Go a bit more nuts and you get shit like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA9km4aHjzI

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>>3736268
>Twenty seconds in
>This seems alright so far
>Suddenly HUUUUH

>>3736268
That's impressive, I guess.

>>3736268
>5:02
Why is that SMG made of jello?

>>3736284
Poor interpolation between animation done frame by frame, the exact same thing that happens in Quake itself if you're playing a port with model interpolation enabled.

What if I make a game with GPLGZDoom, but bother to make appropriate replacement assets for Doom's textures, objects and monsters (kinda like freedoom, but more coherent), then try to sell it, advertising backwards compatibility with Doom maps as one of its features?

>>3735961
I noticed this kind of BSP isn't done often with the Unreal engine, is Quake just a lot better at handling complex BSP without errors?

>>3735961
There is a thing about TB I don't like: I can't see how the light works. What editor/tool can do this? It's a basic feature for me

Should I play with keyboard only or mouse+keyboard?

>>3736305
Whatever is comfier for you.

>>3736305
doesn't matter, play however you like
i constantly switch between them
that said, certain weapon mods don't have autoaim

>>3736258
did you enable safe start?

>>3736292
Quake was designed around the binary space partitioning system from the ground up, and everything in the engine is based around that including the usage of brush-based entities rather than separate models and entities for doors, platforms, what have you.

Unreal can do more crazy shit (portals, anyone?) but Quake is like a calculator- it's exact, it's simple, but you can do impressive stuff with some tweaking.

>>3736304
None of them. Quake engine lighting works completely differently than Doom's per-sector brightness- Quake's lighting is all figured out when you compile the map (from the aptly-named 'light' executable), it isn't computed at runtime.

>>3735532
I'm sure CodeImp would.

>>3736365

And you responded half a day later.

>>3736383
>(portals, anyone?)
Only game I know that did that was Serious Sam.

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Hey, after playing the new Duke episode on the World Tour release, I went and played my first mod... DNF 2013. It was fantastic, I had a blast. Whats your personal Duke mod? Im looking for something similar to DNF 2013 in terms of revamped weapons and new or remixed enemies, hopefully not just cosmetic.

>>3736397
Unfortunately Duke doesn't have that much high quality mods/level packs. DNF 2013 might be the best you're going to get.

>>3736397
Duke Nukem isn't really about level packs per say and more just about large single levels.
Use this site for Duke 3D level reviews, you can search them by score: http://www.scent-88.com.

>>3736425
>more just about large single levels
>http://www.scent-88.com

Thats a great tip, thanks. I didnt know it was that way. This is my first time looking for FPS mods, (and my first time comming to this thread maybe)

With this site, the mods on the 'So you want to play' picture, and the addonds pack from Duke4, I guess I have more in my hands than Ill ever play, so thanks.

Still, if someone has a personal favorite that would like to recommend, I'll surely check it out first

>>3736397
Personally I absolutely loved Metropolitan Mayhem. There's a few individual maps that are well worth your time.

>>3736304
None, I'm afraid. Lighting doesn't exist until you compile your map with light.exe.

>>3736162
That's new in TB2, actually. The first release of TrenchBroom only had a single 3D view.

>>3736091
It's very good, very robust and very easy to use. Slapping brushes together is far easier than in any other editor and it has a few quality of life things with complex geometry (such as face-splitting with concave brushes for example).

Quick, give me some map parameters

>>3736448

You must include at least 8 toilets, but no more than 12.

>>3736448
Every room has a crusher

>>3736448
It must have both freelook and software mode enabled, also max autoaim

>>3736468
Alright. I'll go with roughly 8-4 more of them before i feel confident enough to tackle.

>>3731586

operation na'pali

>>3736292

if you have a cylinder with smooth surfaces and you are looking at it, the backside of it is still rendered because the smoothing, that's why unreal doesn't support it

Does anyone else have problems with is2.4chan.org domain? I can't view any doomy pics which uses that domain. :(

>>3736541

Seems to be working to me. I recall having a problem a while ago where my script blocker was blocking that domain, if you use such an extension you may want to check that out.

also >:(

>>3736552
Okay. Thanks for heads up.

It does work for me now. Needed to relaunch my web browser to get it to work.

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>>3736541
Try using the archives instead, or the image database.

>>3736579
That kind of shit sometimes happens to me while I use Firefox. For some reason if I do whatever wasn't working in Chrome, then go back to Firefox, it works again.

>>3736397
war of attrition is pretty great, its a collection of duke maps with some RPG stuff added

>>3736627
Wish there was some way to cheat XP so you could get super powerful weapons instantly. By the time you almost have really good weapons the episodes are over.

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What are the best gameplay mod and megawad combinations?

>>3736284
>>3736286

Isn't it because of floating point vertices? The animation tries to translate the object's movement but the renderer can't do floating point calculations so the vertices of the object only appear on integer coordinates?

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demon milking game when

get my mits on some fat mancubus tits

>>3736725
by default quake doesn't even have true animations, every model has all its animations baked in and played frame by frame, at a very low framerate at that (Ranger's running animation is what, four or five frames?)

>>3736643
Sunlust + Accessories to Murder

It's a great way to feel bad about yourself.

>>3736729
what if this was an HDoom minigame

friends how do i hard reset my fetishes

>>3736737
jack off to them until even the most awful, obscene and illegal stuff makes you fall asleep while fapping

i'm not sure what happens afterwards but that's where i'm at so far

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I want to know who the fuck came up with the shotgun soldiers in doom 3 thinking 'yeah this is good hitscan enemy design'

>>3736737
You can't "reset" your fetishes. They've been hard wired into your brain ever since puberty.

>>3736737
why are you asking this in a doom thread?

>>3736737
kill yourself

how do change the pick up sound for invisibility?

>>3736776
nevermind

>>3736737
1. Don't ask /vr/.
2. Don't watch porn. At all. Ever.
3. Fail at number 2, give up and just try to keep them to yourself you sick fuck.

>>3736643
Demonsteele + JPCP

Metroid Dreadnought + BTSX 1/2

>>3735310
D4T Released https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=54750

>>3736840
So it's like diet D4D with scaled back visuals and tweaked gameplay? That's actually pretty fucking neato

>>3736850
It's also compatible with older source ports like GZ 1.8, Zandro 3 etc. for potato computers and Android phones.

I honestly feel it's probably a little better than D4D, in that you don't have to mess around in menus regularly, but I'll have to play it more...

>>3736850
Not only that, it actually supports multiplayer.

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>>3736390
Serious Sam's portals are a bit more crude than Unreal's.

Unreal could do stanley-parable style non-euclidean geometry way back in '98

Unreal basically took Build engine portalling, got rid of the limits and took it to eleven. The only thing it was limited by is you can not have portals that loop on itself (aka. ones that allow you to see back of your head and infinite portals) because that would create infinite rendering loop and crash the engine, since there were no shaders to create a substitute texture on the fly like Source engine does.

Examples of Unreal's portals are picrelated and first UT duel map.

Well, technically linguortals could be implemented in vanilla doom via bsptree hacking but nobody knew about that back then.


In the end, early games with clear portal fuckery that is obvious and presented to the player (that I know of):

Duke (720 loop secret level)
Unreal Tournament
Undying
Wheel of Time (picrelated)
Serious Sam
Narbacular Drop (proto-portal)

>>3736884
I did a fake "walking on walls" portal in a DM match in unreal once...


>linguortals
They're so cool...

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>playing wad
>its secrets are mostly esoteric random wall secrets that dont have any indication so you have to spam e on all the walls like your playing doom 1 or 2

>>3736884
I wish more games used portals.

Also, is Wheel of Time a good game? Looks interesting

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>>3736390
>>3736884
Original Unreal did this in the DmRadikus map, however it doesn't show off that portals can be angled to make walking on walls/ceilings effects, like >>3736885 said.

>>3736913
It's same to Unreal as Heretic is to Doom, but with a bit more "magical" magic. Still uses ammo.

Also has some minor puzzles like using Fire Shield to get throguh flaming zone, or Water Shield to swim underwater, Walk Through Walls to get through a grate, Levitation to platforms etc.

Has some creepy moments as well, like dark wisps in the Ways or creeping fog enemy that strangles you - scared the shit out of my 13 year old self.

>>3736884
holy shit that's cool

>>3736915
I played a UT version of that map. Really fun.

>>3736884
The Descent/Descent 2 engine was a primitive portal engine that could do non-euclidean geometry in 1994. I recall playing at least one level that had multiple "versions" of it occupying the same space, and you could choose which version to play by just flying down the appropriate corridor. I don't remember if it could do self-referencing portals, though. Probably not, considering how the underlying cube structure worked.

Descent 3 is a portal engine too, but I have no idea if it can do non-euclidean spaces. I never bothered to lean Descent 3 mapping.

>>3736884
>Duke (720 loop secret level)

I noticed that in the DC expansion in the FBI HQ level, there's a hallway with an air duct that goes across it but they never intersect. Now you're thinking with portals.

Wait a minute. I just realized... the Build Engine isn't supposed to be able to render two accessible spaces on top of one another at the same time, but there's a bridge in an open space in the very first level. You can walk under the bridge and on top of it. What's going on?

>>3736975
Bridges are a feature of the Build engine.

>>3736973
>non-euclidean geometry

Non-euclidean geometry means parabolic, elliptic and hyperbolic geometry. It hardly has anything to do with portals. The only connection I can recognize is how on the surface of a sphere you only need to take three 90° turns to return where you started. On a plane that requires 4 turns or the use of a portal.

>>3736984 (Me)
>take three 90° turns to return where you started. On a plane that requires 4 turns or the use of a portal.

I meant to say 2 turns and 3 turns, not 3 and 4.

>>3736975
That bridge - and basically every other bridge in the game - is made out of flattened sprites.

>>3736987
>>3736984
Got it. Yeah, "non-euclidean" might not be the correct word to use.

>>3737001
Aahaa. Of course. It's not a 3-dimensional object at all. The height is 0 so it's just a 2d plane.

>non-euclidean
Lovecraft pls go

>>3737020
HUUH

>>3736973
I played through Descent 1/2 fairly recently and I don't remember seeing anything like that at all.

>>3736984
Euclidean geometry is an axiomatic view of space that postulates that throguh 2 points of 3d space one and only one straight line could be drawn.

Any geometry where that is not true, and more than 1 straight nonintersecting line can be drawn through 2 points in space (like you can do with portals) is non-euclidean.

In game case that means - if portal is physical object with clear border, and transition can be noticed, then line drawn from A to B through that portal is not a line, but two separate lines - one goes from A to entry portal, and other goes from exit portal to B.

If the transition is seamless then even if in script terms there are two lines, in perception, there is one line. Therefore you can draw more than one line from A to B - one straight, and whatever other ammount you want by using multitude of portals, which makes geometry of said scenario non-euclidean by definition.

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>>3737021
Spooky

>>3737031
>I played through Descent 1/2 fairly recently and I don't remember seeing anything like that at all.
It was a fan-made level. Whatever its name was, it's probably archived at http://www.pooterman.com/. Sadly most Descent level archives have 404'd these days.

It's the same thing with all games: the stock levels are often boring and rarely exploit every feature the engine can do. You have to play fan-made levels to really see what's possible. For example, almost any megawad beats stock Doom 2, hands down.

>>3737041
>almost any megawad beats stock Doom 2, hands down.
Almost any single map beats Doom 2 maps, desu.

Quick dumb question, what's the command line to skip a different map in single player campaign?

>>3737097

changemap map** at the console. You can also type IDCLEV (map#) into the console. map map** works too.

>>3735867
I still don't understand how anyone's supposed to guess these

>the part in Unreal Tournament's campaign where if you play at high difficulties, you're losing not because the bots are so outrageously difficult to fight but rather because they all run off to opposite ends of the map and rack up score killing eachother while you're still looking for a weapon that hasn't been hoovered up

>>3736840
so that's, what? 5 mods now that port doom 4 into old doom? Sweet desu

>>3737107
You have to find CAMs to fill it out. But yes it's not exactly intuitive.

>>3737110
Don't your AI partners also get dumber? At least their difficulty scale is always below the opposition.

>>3737107
you're not, either you go in blindly or you learn them with PDAs or use the cheat sheet

>>3736871

it means that we an finally give the finger to complex brutal doom shit, and start playing D4D on zand

last thing we need now is a working Doomslayer skin, but i think that complex power armor fits that with a few tweaks

>>3737157
>a working Doomslayer skin

How many sprites does the marine sheet have? 8 directions with movement and firing animations? If someone really did manage to rip the Doomslayer model, it shouldn't be too difficult to replicate the stances of the original animation frames and then render the frames in some sort of universal lighting from those 8 directions.

>>3737171
guys at facepunch ripped d44m armor model so it can be done

If the doomslayer sprite sheet ever ends up here I could try touching up the details. Small stuff can get lost when rendering in low resolution, and aliasing causes colors to blend. If I'm not mistaken the color depth of Doom is 255 plus alpha. That means you could have 8 hues, each one with 32 shades. Maybe more if some colors only use a portion of their allocated shades.

I could try animating and rendering it myself but I have been unable to completely eliminate antialiasing in Foundry Modo's renderer. Some part of the raytracing always bleeds past the aliased edges of things.

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>just now looked at the gzdoombuilder thread because it was locked and the last post was max3d
>going through a few pages for context
>notice the page count is suddenly a few pages short than it was
>realize what happened
MOM HOLY FUCK

>>3737210
AND NOW THE THREAD IS SPLIT AS OF THIS POSTING
oh my god it keeps getting better, this is some graf tier shit

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>>3737181

im still waiting for a Super Metroid/SA-X sprite patch for Dreadnought

but idk how to do front and back walking sprites

>>3737216
>Graf: "developers are a rare resource you do not waste"
This is the man running the biggest source port for Doom. No wonder 2.3.0 happened the way it did.

>>3737210
Link/context?

im kinda out of loop here and I dont like being out of loop.

>>3737242
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=54952

This is the thread that was split off from the GZdoombuilder thread.

>>3736884
I was going to ask what UT99 level you're talking about, but I think I've figured it out.
DM-Fractal, right?

>>3737287
Yes. I don't remember them by name, sue me.

>>3737289
I wasn't being snarky.
The use of portals back in the day was trippy to 11 year old me. Shit is neat.

>>3737295
To me it was not amazing at the time - I took things like that for granted back then, only much later realizing how great it was.

>>3737245
Really sad when developers of something you like lose ability to discern valid criticism, or start making changes that nobody ever wanted then snapping when people don't like those changes.

>>3737306
>Really sad when developers of something you like lose ability to discern valid criticism, or start making changes that nobody ever wanted then snapping when people don't like those changes.

It could always be worse. Look what happened with ZDoom and Randi.

>>3737479
>Look what happened with ZDoom and Randi.
? What happened with ZDoom and Randi?

>>3737483

randy gave the finger to zdoom, the project is now dead

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>>3737486
Soon I am done with this travesty.

>>3736884
While this was true, Serious Sam more than made up for it with it's gravity fuckery.

>>3737219
I am precisely awaiting a SA-X monster Doomguy for use in a wad.

>>3737553

then here's the sprites, use it and mod it

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Why won't this lanky fuck move with the scrolling floor? I've tried carry, scroll and wind. Am I missing something? zdoom udmf format

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>>3737563
>here's the sprites
>doesn't post the sprites

>>3737580
the sprites were inside of you all along

>>3737592
t. Ednerd

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>>3737574
Maybe you could tell me why this lift isn't working? If you can, I'll try and figure it out on your end too.

>>3737605
That's a large penis

>>3737616

for you

>>3737605
How are the heights? Lift goes current_floor_y -> lowest_nearby_floor_y -> wait -> old_floor_y.

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>>3737616
por jous

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>>3737618
In english?

>>3737623
Weird. Basically was asking how you had setup the sector heights.
Can't really say what's going wrong. The sector is tagged, the sidedef's sided right, tagged as well, current action ( at least looking at my Boom sidedef actions numbers )...
Although since you are using UDMF-format, I am not sure how the actions are setup in it. Perhaps check so you didn't accidentally set it as "walk over" or "shoot" action triggers?

>>3737628
It seems to be the same as the original E1M8 that I'm trying to emulate.

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>>3737638
>>3737628
ooops

>>3737171
>it shouldn't be too difficult

>>3737210
>>3737216
>>3737242
>>3737245
>>3737306

I'm really fucking sick of the whole "people should be grateful that the developers even work on things" idea.

Especially considering how goddamn soft the Doom community actually is, compared to other creative outlets and communities. Some people talk about how MEAN :( and RUDE :( the Doom community is, but they're fucking easy street compared to some of the other modding/dev communities out there. If you get upset at some of the nonsense going there, you have some seriously goddamn thin skin.

>>3737679
>when she kicks you in the nuts and they break into pieces

>>3737685
what wad is this?

>>3737667

its the Arthmoor disease

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>>3737574
http://puu dot sh/tmhRc/8c9525488d.wad
Here's how I did it. Made in ZDoom in UDMF format, though it's the way you'd do scrolling floors in Boom format. Works in ZDoom 2.8.1.

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This final area is shaping up nicely now.

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>>3737697
looks great dude

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YOU KNOW WHAT DAY IT IS

WHAT'RE YOU WORKING ON? POST YOUR SPRITES, YOUR MAPS, YOUR CODE, WHATEVER YOU GOT.
HEY, THAT HIGHWAY TO HELL THING IS JUST AROUND THE CORNER, YOU GOT ANYTHING FOR THAT?

>>3737667
>Some people talk about how MEAN :( and RUDE :( the Doom community is, but they're fucking easy street compared to some of the other modding/dev communities out there.
Just because a group of autismal manchildren is marginally less vitriolic than some other group doesn't make it OK, and it certainly doesn't mean a developer is obligated to put up with it instead of pursuing some other less emotionally draining hobby.

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So, is most of the issues figuring out wtf is going on with the linedefs?

This shit is why I want to collab; so that somebody with more knowledge can help when I run into issues.

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>>3737697
>that pentagram

also /r/ing a revenant version

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>>3737710
Well, as posted the .webm here >>3737697

I need to figure out how the encounter would work. Probably just massive flood of nasties. But I also gotta decide if you can go there before you collect BFG ( the progression is open. Technically you can open gates to main arena and use archvile jump to get BFG, but it is probably not recommended course of action ) - player could forget/not get the BFG.
Either I lock it before getting the BFG ( which feels bit unintuitive ), or scatter some very obvious warning signs ( ton of cell-ammo, rockets, etc. )

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>>3737717

No, but it does mean that someone throwing a fit and quitting over criticisms essentially amounting to "I don't like it" is what is what we in the sociological professions classify as "a bitch nigga".

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>>3737710
Working on a sewer/water treatment plant. The idea is that there will be 3 areas, one with clean water, one with dangerous sewage, and one where they purify the sewage with magma. So safe, dangerous and fuck-dangerous. Right now most work has been in the safe area.

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>>3737710
Trying to learn how to map. >>3737719


Mostly it's an issue of figuring out what the fuck is going on with the sectors. They're not doing what I want them to, and can't figure out why.

You can see I'm trying to remake E1M8

>>3737691
gameplay I'm assuming brutal doom

since i noticed the notification

and the update to hell on earth starter pack

>>3737763
Might be that the sector's facing is wrong, so it doesn't trigger. You could also try changing action to "floor lower to lowest floor".

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>>3737767
Tried both. Still nothing.

3d view, maybe it might give insight.

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Regarding the limits, what are Boom's limits regarding sidedefs? 2^15, or more?
I am cutting up unnecessary detail, now.

>>3737775
Oops, linedef's facing*

>>3737775
Well, I don't have much ideas.

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>>3737710
Working on my highway to hell map

I've gone for a sort of sunken fortress theme inspired by Call of Cthulu since I've only just got round to reading it recently

>>3737763
>>3737775

I'm not seeing what sector tag 4 is.
Also change to Lower By Value, Lower To Nearest is finnicky.

>>3737785
fuck me that's some pretty architecture

>>3737767
Know what? I'm stumped, and the solution is probably retard-tier simple.

I'm going to upload the unfinished map. Open it up and see if any of you can get it working, then show me how much of a mongoloid I am.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/seql9p9jviusc3g/MAP01.wad?dl=0

>>3737775
Are you sure the "floors" you're trying to lower are actually floors and not ceilings, i.e. did you raise them up?

Also looking at your earlier pics, I think you need to give the barons a floor to stand on (unless you've just turned the brightness right down) since it looks like they're just in a void at the moment

>>3737786
The baron doors are tagged 4

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>>3737793
It's just the brightness.

I don't know what determines this in terms of floor/ceiling. Here's the map from a distance.

>>3737798
Okay I downloaded your wad to have a look and you have used ceilings for the baron doors and you also need to set a sector tag (4) on the linedef like it was in this picture >>3737763

So just raise the doors back up to the ceiling then raise some new doors from the floor

hope this works anon

>>3737520

If it has archviles in it you lose
#YAvYL

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>>3737710
I still haven't added the textures so far as well as adding the secrets or something along those lines.
thinking of adding custom monsters into the maps.

I'll be posting a few more

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>>3737812
uh oh

'k so im thinking about replacing the SSG with another weapon that doesnt even use shells.

> point of fact the normal shotgun becomes an SSG
> but the SSG map item slot will be replaced by something else
> and I dont want an uber shotgun

problem is ammo balance and also sometimes there's monsters that need an SSG to the face but unless the replacement can do the damage (without much self damage) the map breaks


tips?

im thinking of making it spawn with a bunch of ammo since SSG spawns are kinda one-per-level rare

> this is a non-map wad, im not a mapper

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>>3737823

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>>3737806
Oh hey. Worked. Thanks anon.
Didn't figure it was like that. Huh...

Back to work.

>>3737737
>them pixels
Niiiice screenshots.

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>>3737829

>>3737829

But only 4 skeletons isnt enough to replace the arches you removed. You should set up a monster teleporter to pipe in another 8 of them in those spots (maybe a semi truck full of pinkies after that to limit the player's options).

> trade 4 arches for 12 skeletons, trust me in open air its about as dangerous

>>3737831
see now thats what im trying to make my Zdoom do and its just not doing it.

>>3737837
How do I do monster teleporter?

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>>3737834

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>>3737850

>>3737842
In a remote edge of the map you create some narrow rooms that link by a very small pipe/line to the rest of the map (such as a water area) so they can hear shooting in that room... think of pez dispensers here.

Make them invisible on the map

There is a monster teleporter (only teleports monsters) at the end of each narrow room closest to the direction they will be teleporting into (so that they seek the player and in doing so move into that square).

Teleport destination is wherever you would like the monsters to be jumping in at, this is standard fare teleporting monster ambush.

The way you keep them from just teleporting in is by putting a small wall or post between the monsters and the teleporter square they step on.

When the player does the naughty thing that brings hell's wraith down on him, you instantly lower that post or wall so that the monsters gain access to the teleporter square.

> for meanness and a little bit of extra effort, make a separate chamber for each monster and have them each teleport so that they all teleport into the killzone about the same time

> which is what I was thinking for these 4 skeletons, the place they're standing can be a teleport destination and as soon as they are revealed after getting the blue key - you lower the posts in those monster teleporter rooms

> and . . . as a result 4 skeletons come out of the pillars but then several more come out of each pillar along with pink demons too.

Alright, The pre-alpha of the E1m8 remake is nearly done.

Flag 666 is usually used to con notate a floor lowering on E1M8 via killing the 2 barons. How would I replicate this for Map01?

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If you don't want to use noise ( ex. you want monsters to appear even if they are not awake ), you can use conveyors instead. It is bit tricky, since you have to be careful that they don't get locked in.

Above post is good stuff in general. One thing I'd add is that monsters cannot teleport into teleport-exits occupied by monsters.
One setup I use is that there are actually multiple teleport-lines in the monster-room, ex. 4, which take to different teleport-spots. Also, you should add teleport-lines behind the monsters too, so they don't waste time bouncing off the wall.


>>3737856
You don't need to make it a physical tunnel. You can join sectors to achieve same effect. You don't necessarily have to bother with "don't show on map" unless player can obtain map.

>>3737856
>In a remote edge of the map you create some narrow rooms that link by a very small pipe/line to the rest of the map (such as a water area) so they can hear shooting in that room... think of pez dispensers here.
This isn't necessary. You can join sectors and monsters will hear you fap in another galaxy.

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>>3737710

Guess I'll post twofold.
First, have some art by Arborix/Doommonsters. Been helping me out a lot with character design/art for Cosmic Tides, characters look good and fun and neat.

>>3737856
Seems interesting about the ambush thing, I like it, but first i have to make space for the the monsters to teleport as well as make a test map just to get a hang of things.

Anyway cool idea, because i have meaning to add a key by the fountain area giving the monsters to appear. usually i would add a cyberdemon but that would be for later if i added stronger weapons. I don't know but the revenants work like an turret to while the pinkies and the fatsos take care of the player first then when he grabs the key more enemies show up. he could defeat the monsters and move on or just open the door and move on since I also don't know how to make door move when you kills a certain amount of enemies just like killing the two barons from ep 1.

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>>3737886
>>3737710

Second, I've implemented a zoom scope/night vision for all the weapons. The cool thing here is that it's completely independent from the weapons. Normally A_ZoomFactor resets when swapped away from a weapon, and can't be done mid-firing/mid-swap/mid-whatever.
Fun stuff.

>>3737878
As far as I remember tags 666/667 are hardcoded in Vanilla Doom. Outside of Fragglescript\ACS scripting and screwing with Dehacked and assigning KeenDie codepointer to Barons of Hell, there's no way to replicate that behaviour for your regular map01 of Doom 2.

>>3737886
i'm gonna fuck that shark

>>3737907
Anon, no. Das gey.

>>3737737
>where they purify the sewage with magma
That would probably smell unbelievably foul.

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>>3737904
Oh...

Shit, so what do I do then? Can't quite keep going on this map until I can have the walls lower for the teleporter...

>>3737920
You could make switches in the things that house the barons, so player has to engage or dodge them to lower the doors.

You could make it timed via voodoo-fuckery or just making it a very tall wall ( ex. make the lowering sector really high, and when the doors to barons lower, the wall also lowers, but it is so high that it takes some good time. ) - but if you do that, you need to keep player occupied.

Then there's option of making it a switch-hunt, but personally I don't like that sort of solution.

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>>3737901
thats awesome as fuck
Hey guys ive got a problem thats been going on for awhile, Zdoom 2.8.1 here...

The noautoaim flag for weapons isnt working and I dont know why.

The default setting for zdoom seems to point to autoaiming being "default" and I want it turned off so its pesky to go in every time and turn it off (along with jumping:on).

So I decided to just make all the weapons not autoaim, but it noticeably still autoaims despite what the flag is supposed to do.

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>>3737912
It's a hard job, but someone has to do it.

>>3737831
I dunno if you're being sarcastic, or what.

>>3737839
If you're using GZDoom you can use the retro shader. It's not 100% perfect, but it's a pretty close simulation.

>>3737897

some mods have stuff teleport in that isnt obviously apparent, like you go grab a key and nothing happens but when you return to the common area you find out all hell has broke loose thus barring you from going to use the key on intended door until you sort out the mess

> also in plutonia2 map 6 - when you go get the orange key I think it lowers a barrier for the cyberdemon... but it isnt until you get all the way up to the common area that a final bar is also lowered thus allowing the Cyber to jump into the common area unexpectedly to give you a hard time

> my guess is that second barrier is normally down but when you go in the orange key room its raised, then when you go back to the door to the common room it lowers again thus letting the frothing cyber reach the teleporter

> but while this is a surprise factor its also a safety factor since cybers are the strongest melee critters in the game, if it teleported in sooner than that the cyber would be blocking the door and kill the player as soon as they opened it

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>>3737920
Dunno, E1M8 effect is reproducable but it depends on format you're mapping for. If it's Vanilla-ish (Doom, Doom 2, Boom) then some Dehacked fuckery would be required. If it's Doom Legacy format then Fragglescript could help. If it's UDMF\Doom in Hexen format you can make a script that executes when both Barons die, but I don't know much about setting up any of these way so I can't help you here, man. Alternatively you can pick something from >>3737927 Or you can just put some Commander Keens in that room somewhere and put tag 666 on sector that needs to be lowered, except you're gonna make them work like a door (i.e. lower the ceiling to the floor level).

>>3737956

Can GZ doom run without openGL?
if not then I cant use it.

>>3737963
>Can GZ doom run without openGL?
The shader can't. But the software renderer can, which is the same as ZDooms renderer anyway. Which is about as close as you're going to get in ZDoom variants, then...

>>3737963
Use console to set vid_renderer 0.
Outdated OpenGL either doesn't work or bugs out.

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>>3737967
I havent downloaded GZ yet but I expect it will bug out. Pic related. Until someone literally gives me a new comp thats not going to change, thats just how that is.

>any way to use 3dAnalyze to emulate it?

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>>3737920
What you can do instead is have a zombieman on an elevator trigger a door, so the fight is timed, instead of on boss death. But then you gotta crush the zombieman before the end of the level for 100% kills. Or allow him to teleport into the map somehow.

Not sure if dehacked can help you here either because "bossdeath" is already in the barons, but only functions on E1M8.

>>3737989
Actually I'm not sure if you can get him to shoot without seeing you. Some more trickery would be required...

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I like a good pump.

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>>3737969
>>3738006

>>3737989
>Not sure if dehacked can help you here either because "bossdeath" is already in the barons, but only functions on E1M8.
It's possible to transfer KeenDie codepointer to whatever monster though and that one works on any level.

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>when you accidentally open portals to the blood dimension

>>3738019
>It's possible to transfer KeenDie codepointer to whatever monster though and that one works on any level.
Ah. Didn't think of that, or notice it in your post.

Hey, mod, you forgot to ban him.

Is it possible use wads with original Doom?

>>3738046
Well... yeah? That's where all this modding stuff began, dude.

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Man, I like how the damn iron halo turned out.

>>3738046
Depends.
Maps? There are plenty, but some break map limits, so limit-breaking port is needed. Plus, if you are talking about specifically for Doom 1, the maps need to be intended for them ( scratch off revenants, mancubi ).
Mods? Depends, there is DeHackEd. Most of modern mods are intended for ZDoom/GZDoom/Zandronum.

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man, i hate how nobody ever talks about ketchup-lippeth. Its like like regular ketchup but doesn't crash in new versions of GZDoom and and has appropriate blood colors for the cacodemon/baron of hell

>>3737909
What if he meets the HDoom girls and they make him an adult, then?

>>3738095

...By teaching him about taxes and house payments?

>>3738095
>they make him an adult
that sounds like a surprise birthday party

kids love birthday parties

>>3735310

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONEy_ybKWsg

Turok: Dinosaur Hunter source found.

>>3738095
They'll adult him so much.
They're gonna put him through college and give him a good education.

>>3738095
>What if he meets the HDoom girls and they make him an adult

This is the most awkward euphemism, anon.
It sounds like you're suggesting they're going to introduce him to car mortgages and careers.

>>3738104
oh shit

I love Doom but I haven't played in forever and switched to Linux in the meantime.

Can anyone spoon-feed me a good Linux Doom port so I can avail myself on all the new .wads that have come out?

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Right. Alpha 0.0 of e1m8.

Give it a quick run, toss some suggestions together, whatever. I'm tired. Will have to work on it some more later. Obviously lots of work to do. Just have to flesh out the initial architecture first, then will shift things and secrets around, tag them as such, get basic gameplay up, get detail together (initial detailing done on the exit pedestal, take a gander)

Feel free to play around with it and/or use it to help you learn how 2 map. I'll credit anybody who plays around with it.

>>3738129
You forgot a link, m8.

>>3738104
SORCE PORT WHEN?
(if he releases it)

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>>3738129
Retardation strikes again.

Texture malignment, room scale and non-existant rooms are likely some of the largest issues thus far. Not going to plonk down the majority of items yet until i'm satisfied with the architecture. Most of what's there is for refrence's sake.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/44mrqimdhpf6nzz/MAP01.wad?dl=0

>>3738104
o fucc

>>3738097
>>3738098
>>3738107
>>3738112
WHAT IF THEY PUT HIM ON A BED AND PROCEEDED TO FUCK HIM RAW YOU DENSE MOTHERFUCKERS

>>3738137
Again, you'll likely need to toss yourself some items and whatnot as all I've tossed in there for the player so far is the shotgun and the soulsphere.

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>>3738148

That sounds pretty lewd, anon.

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By the by, here's that exit pedestal in progress.

>>3738137
Not bad for a first attempt

My only complaint would be that it feels too cramped: the pinkies are harmless and the secret kind of gives itself away as you try to squeeze past
The stealth baron fight was surprisingly intense but again would like a bit more room to maneuver
Liked the lighting effects although the first step was skipped
All in all it's clearly e1m8 so what more could you ask, welcome to the mapping scene anon!

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Almost all of layout done, finally. Just few areas need some touching up. I probably manage to sidedef count under 2^15.
Yiss.

After that it is time to shit up the place with monsters.

I'm finally becoming a true Doom-fag it seems; what are YOUR top 3 ChocDoom comparable WADs?

>>3738253
Hell Revealed

>>3738070
>>3738070
Can't leave you hanging senpai--thats by far the best ketchup. Works great with smooth Doom weapons only.

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>>3738230
The first step is part of the larger sector involving the soulsphere- so the whole hallway would likely glow.

More room is intended for later. Just looming about for proddings.

Other than that; thanks anon. Glad you like it.

>>3738124
I'm pretty sure every source port can be a Linux port. It's called the GPL.

>>3736737
HARD reset?
delete all fetish shit on your pc, replace with vanilla stuff, and nofap for a month

>>3738338
This doesn't work anon. I can confirm this.
>>3736759

Source: i like 'big' things.

I need help you guys. I tried uploading a wad onto idgames for the first time, but it got rejected because it has unmodified id software resources.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ghhm9nmu2l6077e/RunLate.wad?dl=0

I'm not sure what qualifies as "unmodified id resources". If it's the Doom 1 and TNT textures, then I have no idea how to include them otherwise.

>>3738342
The thing is that it's assumed that people downloading have DOOM2.wad lying around if they are downloading doom2-based maps.

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Burned through the game surprisingly quick -- not short, just because it was so damn addictive. I'm kicking myself for never playing this, because its absolutely one of the finest games of the era.

The real star is the phenomenal level design. The game is filled with tons of creative locales and situations, and every level is so damn detailed and filled to the brim with secrets and traps. Apart from a lackluster 3rd episode, the game stays pretty high quality and managed to keep surprising me throughout. I can't believe they pushed the old Build engine as far as they did in this game.

Anyways, thanks to those in the thread that gave me suggestions on how to get the game running the best.

>>3738341
>i like 'big' things.
go on

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Finally done with the damn map.

Now just monster placement and rooms...

>>3738342
Might have been because of SKYONE being an identical copy of doom 2's RSKY1. Otherwise, I'm not sure. It definitely doesn't have an entire iwad's worth of resources included. Might be worth discussing this with Bloodshedder and The Green Herring.

>>3738376
You ran it with bmouse, yeah? The actual mouselook in DOS Build games is awful.

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>>3738104

>>3736737
just play doom and you will be fine

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>>3738379
fat things, preggo things, things eating other things.

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>>3738415
excellent taste, anon

>>3738415
>"These are a few of anon's fav-or-ite thiiiiiiiiiiings~"

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>>3738419
>>3738418
>excellent taste
___HUUH____

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>>3738415
I only like one of those things and even then I have a limit. pic partially related

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>>3738419
AND THEN I DON'T FEEL
SOOOOOOOOOO HUUH HUUH HUUH

>>3738424
Don't hate, appreciate.

>>3738427
>blundertale poster judging others for their taste in wank material