Let's try this again: This thread is for YU-NO, EVE burst

I have nothing against the thread, I mean the older threads were pretty fun, but there's oh so much we can talk about Yu-No before this inevitably turns in a Katawa Shojo circlejerk general.

What am I trying to say is, don't force it, we had our fun with the other threads, no need to start beating a dead horse.

Btw, has that retarded remake been released yet?

>>3510197
It comes out in two months.
The best Yu-no threads are normally when somebody finished playing and brings fresh blood to the discussion.

>>3510197
>>3510214
Honestly I made this thread hoping to talk about about more of the writer's games than just YU-NO.

>>3510226
Yeah but english ports of Desire and EVE Burst Error are kinda crummy looking so I doubt much people played it. Gotta have that dithering magic man

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>>3510231
What Japanese version would you recommend?
I have the Towns/9821 but you have to choose between text and speech and I prefer to have both.

>>3510272
I wouldn't recommend any, I haven't played them as I don't know runes, so really I can't know. I haven't played the games specifically because I just want to play the dithered versions. But then again, choosing to opt out of the great Jap voice acting is also a dire choice. Any of the choices just seems to bring compromises.

Honestly it's a miracle we get to enjoy Yu-No's fan patch, it's a fucking miracle that adds everything that's great from all the different versions with no compromises. The only real criticism anyone can slap on the fan patch is the full screen mode which isn't that great (bilinear scale and letterboxed).

I guess I'm holding on to the remote chance that they might get a similar treatment someday, but honestly I doubt it.

>>3510231
Honestly I find Desire's PC-98 art to be pretty atrocious. Almost every female character has a manface and some of the backgrounds look so dull and lifeless even for PC-98 standards

>live in a house on the edge of the world
>there's this young girl who lives in the house next to me
>every single day, 4 AM sharp, she wakes up and walks to the cliff edge
>starts chanting "LOVE! LOVE! LOVE!" as loud as she can
>invariably wakes me and everyone else in the neighborhood up
>sometimes I'll scream for her to shut up, but nothing can stop her from chanting "LOOOOOVVVEEE!"
>maybe she wants a boyfriend? the boys won't go near her because they think she's crazy

This is how YU-NO goes, right?

>>3510321
In fact the last part about the backgrounds seems to apply to C's ware games in general.

>>3510329
Nah
The game's title should have been "the girl who fucked her father to the beginning of space time

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>>3510330
Well it isn't Yu-No tier that's for sure

>>3510342
>dat mcdonald's sign
>you're essentially taking Mio and Kanna out to Mcdicks
This is funnier than it should be

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>>3510347
Haha oh wow I did not notice that

>>3510353
By the way, Kanna was just taking the piss when she was acting like cafe evening was Takuya's house, right?

>>3510471
I don't remember that, but Kanna seems to be kind of on the spectrum, so probably not.

>>3510226
>Honestly I made this thread hoping to talk about about more of the writer's games than just YU-NO
>>3510231
>so I doubt much people played it.
I played them a long time ago.

Not really sure what to say about them though - 40% of Desire is really shit while the other half is OK while Eve... is a detective mystery? That's all I got.

>>3510173
Wish the other Eve Burst Error games were translated, only the first two are.

>>3510575
Speaking of Desire. Did Kyle let Gustav modify his DNA? Found it kinda weird how when Al punches him again he doesn't move an inch

what do i need to play this? looks like something i'd enjoy

>>3510659
Windows is probably what you need, particularly if you want to play in English.
The games were originally for the PC-9801 series and ported to the Saturn and potentially other systems.
Asenheim Project has Eve and Desire if that works for you.
http://tss.asenheim.org/

Yu-no is the most complicated, you need the Elf Classic compilation, the voice files, the sound files and the patches to added everything together.
https://tlwiki.org/?title=YU-NO_-_The_Girl_that_Chants_Love_at_the_Edge_of_the_World

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>>3510659
For Yu-No:
https://mega.nz/#!j8QgCZ6b!msIPwTMBZl049x7Ms3y8dfgAv-z1TU1qJ7B-R2opv3s

English Language patch:
http://tlwiki.org/index.php?title=YU-NO_-_The_Girl_that_Chants_Love_at_the_Edge_of_the_World#Releases

Be sure to install the voice and music patch as well.

>>3510621
Huh, I can't even remember most of the character names any more.

Anyways - never really got that impression. Just seemed like a regular super alpha NTR powers guy to me.

>>3511730
Maybe but that still doesn't explain how he floored him at the cafeteria even if he was caught by surprise.

Why is Desire's Saturn soundtrack so good?
https://a.pomf.cat/ahlhvu.ogg

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>>3510173
I wish I could forget everything about YU-NO so I could go through it again with a fresh start.

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So what the fuck was her problem?
Was she being a bitch to Al because his GF was working on Desire

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Can a nip speaker give me the gist of http://www.comic-clear.jp/article.aspx?a=58 ?

>>3512357
The description of the event or the comic?

>>3512367
Info about the comic. Not what happens in it, just info about its release.

>>3512663
Only that it starts this fall.

>>3512669
Wonder how close they'll stick to the source material. IIRC, the manga based on the original game took quite a few liberties with the story.

>>3512672
The artist (石田総司) seems like an odd choice with mainly all ages BL fanzines to the name.

>>3512679
Yeah, it does seem pretty weird. Funnily enough, though, I think I like the way she (it's a she, right?) draws new Ayumi more than Nagi Ryou's

>>3511009
>>3511131
thanks!

>>3510280
I'm exactly on the same predicament.
I wish my knowledge of computers was greater, I'd really like to get the dithered art back in the remake of eve burst error.

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>>3510280
Like I said earlier, I personally find Desire's PC-98 art to be ass compared to the art in the Saturn/PC ports(some CGs do have better framing in the PC-98 version, though), but if you wanna play with it so bad. then may I suggest playing the game on asenheim project? They let you play with the voices and the PC-98 art at the same time.

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>>3514448
Yeah that line-art looks definitely better.

What really bothers me about asenheim is no fullscreen, that white background, the distracting audio bar showing up and the persistent sidebar. I tried doing a userstyles for it once but I still can't manage to stretch the <canvas> to the screen size without fucking something up. I'm also not sure I can force nearest neighbor on the <canvas> tag.

I love ansenheim but really it kind of defeats its own purpose by not giving a proper presentation. It's kind of annoying playing a game in this sort of environment.

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>>3514883
Well I tried it again and I kind of got scaling the canvas to work and nearest neighbor, but I don't think it's even possible to find a solution to scale the text area since it's not actually just pixels but a html div with different properties and layouts.

I guess it's better to just rely on browser zoom. I'll just work on a script that relies on browser zoom and focus on just cleaning the environment around it, the sidebar, the background and the audiobar.

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>>3514958
Haha oh fuck it's as easy as adding "zoom: 200%;"
Goddamn these obscure non-standardized css tags

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>>3514978
Well these are my efforts so far
https://userstyles.org/styles/132998/asenheim-dark-theme

>Features:
>- Dark Background
>- Forces Nearest Neighbor scaling with Browser Zoom (read: no smoothing)
>- Scanlines
>- Screen Noise
>- Hides The Side and the Music Menus, and will show up when hovering

I know there's a way to add options to userstyles so people can turn off/on parameters, that way if you don't like the scanlines or the noise or whatever you can opt out. I'll check it out later.

I'll probably forward this to asenheim's webmaster when I'm done with it, maybe he'll want to implement it in the site.

>>3515243
>scanlines
You're taking your autism too far, anon. I also seriously doubt monitors from that era had scanlines that looked that strong to the naked eye.

>>3515297
It's all about personal preference. When I get this customize shit up and running you're free to turn it off

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>the yuno remake artist drew this
What went wrong?

>>3515521
she has no nipples

>>3515528
You know what I meant, anon

>>3515534
Fine, she has no feminine penis

Just started playing YU NO yesterday. Honestly I did not expect it to be this good. Its really scratching the point and click adventure itch I've had for a while.

>>3515560
It's definitely in my all time top 10

>>3514883
>>3514448
I'm always afraid I'll lose my save or things get fucked up in some other way.
Is there no offline engine for those games?

>>3515565
Asenheim lets you back up and restore your saves

>>3515565
Pretty sure the saving mechanism is offline
>All game saves and settings will be stored in your browser (DOM storage).

>>3515565
Download the PC versions of them then?

>>3515575
Those tend to have their own problems and shortcomings.

>>3515592
It's better for me since then I can play them in fullscreen mode on my PC CRT, which Asenheim lacks.

>>3515631
You can use the browser zoom

>>3515640
The point of using the PC CRT is to not have to use upscaling, and play the games at their native resolution, so I rather not do that.

>>3515645
Look I'm not saying you shouldn't use the PC ports, it's your preference and your choice. But you can just set the OS resolution to whatever resolution you want to match the native resolution of the game and then just go fullscreen in the browser.

Since we're on the subject: How do I get the best possible sound out of Neko Project 2 fmgen? Are there any other versions I should try?

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>>3515243
There, I added custom options to it. Not sure there's much I can add to it, unless anyone has any ideas.

This should make playing on asenheim much more pleasant

>>3515560
It's really good, even if really goofy at times.
And I fucking hate moe, harem and that kind of shit anime.
Somehow I can forgive yu-no for that. The atmosphere is just too god.
Also on my top 10 of all time, solely for the atmosphere.

>>3515939
Thanks a lot anon! Now I only need to stop being a lazy brat and find a way to change the whole GUI to be the pc-98 one in eve burst error and this will be the best version of that game around.
Too bad that you have to wait for bgm to load, though. Even if it's a little bit that kind of bothers me.

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>>3516379
No problem, I'll probably add some presets later for fast configs.

>Now I only need to stop being a lazy brat and find a way to change the whole GUI to be the pc-98 one in eve burst error
You mean turn it into something like this?
How would you even do that?

>>3516368
Pretty much how I feel towards it. It's bizarre how much I love the game considering there's a ton of aspects in it that by default should turn me off completely.

>>3517081
I don't know, but it shouldn't be impossible really, you just have to superimpose the image or something even with css alone.
It's too bad I can't seem to find anything about the lisence of the project or anything, reading the javascript would be a lot better desu.

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>>3517276
Well I can tell you where the thing is located at least, weirdly enough it's not being preloaded as an image like most cached objects are, but instead drawn on a <canvas>. Besides, even if you actually managed to get down to the nitty gritty and replace the image, there's the less technical but more obvious aspect that both UIs are not the same size, shit wouldn't fit. The PC-98 draw area is not as tall.

>>3517316
Thanks. I still think it shouldn't be so hard though. Will look at it in a few days.

>>3515521
This looks like some Persona shit

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SAY MY NAME

>>3517636
TEASEMASTER SPACE COP PhD

>>3515553
>>3515528
>>3515521
>She

He's cis-fluid and a SJW faggot.

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>>3517685

>>3517336
Still better than the yu-no remake designs. I mean, if this guy is capable of drawing thicker women then why is everyone in the remake a fucking skeleton? I just don't fucking get it.

>>3511131
Do i need to install that music patch for the game to have music? I installed the voice one and there's no voices. No music as well.

>>3518284
You're doing something wrong. The music patch is only for better quality music.

>>3518326
Can you help me? I did everything like the txt said. Maybe i got something wrong in the installation? It was in japanese after all...

>>3518326
Nvm, i reinstalled and it worked this time.

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Shhh... Tina is sleeping...

For those who like the music, there's a decent sound emulator for the PC98 called Hoot. You can download the music for PC98 games from the Hoot Archive:

http://snesmusic.org/hoot/v2/?system=PC-98&order=ppl&page=46

That page has the files for YU-NO, Desire and EVE. Takes a little bit to get working, but you can play comfy PC98 music on repeat once you do.

>>3519040
Or you can just emulate it with foobar2000. There's a ton of plugins for game music. The PC-98 plugin is called S98 input. Although I think the general music plugin "Game Emu Player" which plays a lot of system also supports PC-98 now, not sure.

If you like the Saturn OST there's also a plugin for it called SSF/DSF Decoder.

Man, Desire's OST is turning out not to be even remotely as good as Yu-No's. He really did evolve as a musician.

>ゲーム内容は現在の倫理基準に基づき一部修正を入れたものになります。
That fucking remake is the worst idea anyone could have.
I hope it doesn't sell.

>>3519124
Does that mean no putting your daughter to the test

>>3519185
Which is completely retarded since they need to rewrite the whole game then.
You can't do the Kanna route without incest.
The whole remake idea was retarded to begin with.

>>3519048
Best way to listen to it is to extract the high quality music from the MUSIC.ARC archive using https://tlwiki.org/images/archive/2/28/20100112055657%21Yuno_arctools.zip, rename the .wav files to .wavloop and use this foobar component http://www.slemanique.com/software/foo_input_wave_loop.html

Hoot is garbage and so are most if not all s98 players. Only acceptables methods I've found are the one I listed and .vgm rips

>>3519050
The saturn version's is (mostly) better

I am playing through Desire in Asenheim. I'm playing as PC98 as possible, because I am a sucker for old, dithered art, but I'd like to find the hdi image because some menus still show PC images. Does anyone know where to find the image for Desire?

>5pb does YU-NO stream
>ends with sony reps shilling fucking walkmans
You can't make this shit up.
Also
>get to finally hear the rearrange of Ayumi's theme
>it's playing through fucking headphones so I can barely hear it
Fuck this company.

>>3520525
At least they played the rearrange for GAG during one of the intermissions, but it was short as fuck (only about 16 seconds)
https://u.pomf.is/lxcety.wav

>>3519875
http://www.mediafire.com/download/vs64ys6q518j695/

>>3519392
Disregard this, I suck cocks. Either extract the .wavs from the high quality music patch, or use the .s98 rip http://www.zophar.net/music/s98/konoyo-no-hate-de-koi-wo-utau-shoujo-yu-no-pc-98-.html with s98 input and the rhythm tone samples http://snesmusic.org/hoot/drum_samples.zip

>>3520632

Thank you very much! trying to configure the emulator now.

>>3519124
Where did you get this from?

I don't think they'll change kanna's route as it's very mild incest IIRC.
The fucking yuno part was pretty tacked on though and easily removable, though.

Still the art is shit and the music will probably be shit so I don't give a fuck.
I wish japan got somewhat on this indie wave of pixel art games and showed everyone how quality pixel art is done.

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Got Desire running. I don't even have my Noken 4 yet. Wish me luck anons.

>>3521219
The samples they've put on their site sound really good and they've even got Ryu Takami, one of the original composers back.

>>3521219
It's blood related father and daughter but neither knows that at that point so it might be acceptable.
Kanna's prostitution might be a bigger obstacle.

>>3521373
>Kanna's prostitution might be a bigger obstacle.

Welp, that would be stupid as fuck but I honestly don't think they are so prudish.

Getting Takuya not to act like a complete retard speaking to every girl like he was some sort of construction worker would certainly be a plus though.

>>3521597
That's part of his charm, though. It also makes the exchanges between him and Mio all the better.

Best Desire girl: Sylvia Reiko is a close second though
Best YU-NO girl: Eriko
You can't prove me wrong

>>3522884
>Eriko
>Best girl
I bet you're a person with great tastes in all areas of life

>>3522884
>spoiler
Did you just like banging her or something cuz I don't remember her doing anything admirable.

>>3523190
She's chill enough to let you off the hook after she catches you snooping around in Martina's office, despite being very loyal to her, plus she's really cute when she starts pouting at you and telling you she'll smack you one.

>>3523225
Also, I just find the Saturn/PC version really attractive

>>3523225
To be fair I think her voice actress does the most heavy lifting when giving me a boner

>>3523281
That reminds me I liked her voice too. Especially when she's drunk

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>>3523328
I think you're confusing Eriko with Ayumi
But yes her VA is fucking diamonds as well

>>3523331
I thought we were talking about Reiko from Desire.
But since you mentioned Ayumi, I have to say she's probably my second favorite, because I guess I'm a sucker for milfs and megane. She's also got the best character theme in the game, and funnily enough, it's also one of the few tracks that weren't composed by Umemoto

>>3523356
Which one is Reiko? Just started the game

If by chance any of you pals have the Japanese version of Divi-dead, I would be happy if you could put it up on Mega.

>>3524941
The secretary with the glasses

And Slyvia's the engineer

>>3525050
That's Christie, anon. Reiko's Martina's blue-haired, right-hand woman

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>>3525269

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>>3525280
She's got red hair in the original, though

>download .s98 rip of yu-no
>sounds fairly close to the original soundtrack despite being recorded using neko project 2
>actually run yu-no on np2
>sounds like shit
Am I doing something wrong? I've got the sound device set to speak board and everything.

>>3525424
Don't know if it makes any difference, but here have this vgz rip instead

http://pastebin.com/aSXAsQDY

>>3518798
rip Kawakami Tomoko

>>3526675
Read my post again. The .s98 rip is fine. It's just that Neko Project 2 sounds nothing like it despite it being what was used to make the rip in the first place.

>>3526979
Sorry my nigga

Man, I get the feeling a LOT of PC-98 assets are missing from asenheim's Desire "port" and they focused completely on the Windows version instead, with the option to change to PC-98 graphics and music just an afterthought.

I just googled the intro and not only did they not kept something as simple as the intro music but also a lot of animations are missing.

One has to be thankful for their efforts, but goddamn this is such a butchered port. The dialogue is pretty hysterical at times, but really makes me wonder if they're taking too much creative liberties (whoever translated it, aisenheim or the windows folks)

I mean, considering the fuckload amount of ports they have up there, one has to imagine they just broadbrushed through all of them. Really how can someone be that precise and that prolific at the same time, you can't shit out all those games without ignoring a ton of details.

Again I'm thankful for asenheim and their efforts, but I really wish someone told me beforehand these ports aren't that great.

I'm going to bite the bullet and learn moonrunes someday.

>>3527065
The game was translated by the US branch of Himeya, C's Ware's parent company.

Was it ever revealed who was making the phone calls in YU-NO?

>>3527721
Then who was phone???

There's speculation but no hard answers for that question AFAIK

>>3527721
Toyotomi, maybe? Also, speaking of theories.
I have a theory that the "she" in Ryuuzouji's memorandum is actually Kaytia, Kouda's wife, and that she was possessed by the being that later possessed Ryuuzouji.

Now the reason I think this is because first of all: Ryuuzouji mentioned in his memorandum that this "she" had a very vast knowledge of dimension travel and other such subjects. Now in the ending, Yuuno says that after she came into contact with Grantia's consciousness she was more or less bestowed with her wisdom. Therefore, it's safe to assume that all priestesses - including Kaytia - have an intimate knowledge of event science and dimension travel, as they all have to serve as a vessel for her consciousness..

As for the second reason, I need only quote her final words: "I am not myself. I must set off on a journey for the sake of the next in line... farewell." Now there's multiple ways to interpret this but my personal interpenetration is that this is Fake Ryuuzouji's way of saying that she has no use for Kaytia anymore and that he's ready to move on to his next target. Namely, Ryuuzouji.

What do you guys think?

Also, another thing.
Fake Ryuuzouji explicitly states that he has his host's memories in addition to his own. So possessing Kaitya grants him access to all of the knowledge given to her by Grantia.

>>3528384
Shit I don't remember any of those names

>>3528456
Koudai = Takuya (The Protagonist)'s dad
Kaytia= Koudai's wife and Takuya's biological mom. Koudai gave her the name "Keiko" and then married her.
Ryuuzouji= The school headmaster and the game's main villain.

>>3526979
Well there are a lot of different np2 versions.
Maybe try a different one.

>>3528652
I tried np2 64 and 21 fmgen
They sound about the same

I want to play Eve burst error for the first time ,I found a site that lets me play it in the browser ,should I play it with Windows sound/graphics or pc98 for maximum comfiness?

>>3529291
PC-98

If you're going with the Windows graphics you're better off downloading the windows port since the asenheim games aren't 100% accurate.

If you're talking about asenheim feel free to use this script I just made: >>3515243

>>3529742
That looks interesting il try it out

Are there any high quality recordings of the PC-98 ost of EBE?

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>>3532074
I was trying to get them on soulseek but somehow the user banned me, I think his configs considered all these requests at once spam


Other than that couldn't find them anywhere else

RIP

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>>3510173
May Kanno and Umemoto rest in peace. :(
I only played Yu-No, which is my favourite game and VN of all time. I've still yet to play their other projects which I really should.

I will probably have to make time to play them.

>>3528384
That's very interesting. I wish Kanno was still alive to answer some of these Q&A's. Hopefully some of the team behind the remake (which doesn't look as great as the dithered artstyle) know some of the answers.