DOOM THREAD

===NEWS===

[09-14] Mutiny community project final version released
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1668971

[09-13] Angst Rahz Revenge Doom TC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BE8DAj-rX0Y

[09-13] GZDoom Autobuilder currently down
http://forum.drdteam.org/viewtopic.php?t=7146

[09-12] Unconstrained Aspect Ratio for ZDoom
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=939096

[09-12] What should the name of the Booty project be?
http://notepoll.com/p/what-should-the-name-of-the-booty-project-be

[09-11] Anon map release: exit.wad (boom compatible, requires cc4-tex)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4mwJRa7e5VpMEgzT2wyOXQ3Z2M/view?usp=sharing

[09-10] Vinesauce mapping contest: 150 submissions were made
https://twitter.com/joel_vinesauce/status/774307787643969536

[09-09] Proper HUD Scaling
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=53440

[09-09] Interloper by Notlea
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/g-i/intrlpr

[09-09] Anon's first map for vinesauce contest
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/veq59tsw8t74a/Vinesauce%20Doom%20Wad%20Contest%202016

[09-08] Anon's map after staying home sick one day, unfinished
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bxqvxak6WzStTjVjTjQ0RXlxSHM

[09-08] You are at a bar and an archvile slaps your girlfriends ass
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bxqvxak6WzStUnk2WmxwS21UalE

[09-06] Anon mapset testbuild
>>3477687

[09-06] Eternal's new mapset, Endpoint
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/d-f/endpoint

[09-05] Weird Disc with random Doom maps found on a flea market
>>3476172

[09-03] Shadow Warrior now free on GOG, with all the expansions and shit
https://www.gog.com/game/shadow_warrior_complete

[09-02] Lights & Brightmaps for Freedoom
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/freedoom/90527-lights-brightmaps/

[08-29] Vinesauce Mapping Contest Rules
https://vinesauce.com/vinetalk/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=118438

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TO SUBMIT NEWS REPLY/BACKLINK TO THIS POST.

I should make my own sick latex models of dildoes and then put them in the game.

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Where were you when Best Ever died?

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Tiny statue, tiny bust.

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See anything you like anon?

>>3496837
what is that supposed to be

>>3496837

Just the shotguns.

>>3496820
Not forcing shitty photoshops.

>>3496820
fuck off with your shitty shoops

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I find it very amusing that it's gone from photos of toys, to 3d models of guns, to 3d models of toys.

Say, what happened to those witty titles in the OP?

>>3496886
Orig OP threw a fit and left, like IMX

>>3496886
wenna didda dried out on a man lake fulla trout boat fulla shoes

https://youtu.be/vhRDWS8gdfA

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Anyone understand moon here?

>>3496928
Let the butthurt begin!

Yes, looking at you, "m-muh ephebs!!" guy

>>3496940
>Thinking that was nothing more than a one-off troll

Now it's gonna be back now that you acknowledged it in anyway.

>>3496920
That was really nice listening anon, thanks.

When is the vinesauce contest thing gonna be revealed or whatever?

>>3497000
when you lose your virginity.

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i got a seperate dummy item test to work by walking up to it, pressing use and it gave a tommy

problem here is when i go back to the nade, i even made it a a_firecustommissle now to see if it made any difference
i feel like as soon as the nade is flying through the air, its in the death state and i cant do anything to do it anymore

i just want to activate the goddamn nade

>>3497006
So never?

>>3496837
Fuck Archie, let me guess, your waifu?

Does anyone know how to make Armageddon Invasion 2 work without it crashing or messing up all the time?

Some of the problems I'm getting are the inability to switch to a shotgun, some maps crashing when a certain wave is reached ( Due to a problem with enemy spawns and/or missing sphere powerups), enemies that don't even spawn at all and fatal crashes when a bot grabs a SS.

Any suggestions on how to fix this? It's one of my favourite wads to play a while back and it's quite disappointing that I can't get it to work properly. I'm currently using Zandronum.

>>3497105
try loading it with skulltag's pk3s.

>>3496820
The original was fine as it is

>>3497112
I have the skulltag pk3 files loaded, but unfortunately I'm still getting these crashes and oddities.

>>3496837

>Archie is back

FUCK YES

>>3496885

I can guess that gun without even opening the thumbnail

it's that damn Nerf gun that everyone modifies for their cosplays, isn't it?

a wad where doomguy has wicked brown sugar farts

I wish GZDoom had a wireframe mode.

>>3497441
go make it
i'll pay you $0.00 to do it

>>3496798
>[09-12] Unconstrained Aspect Ratio for ZDoom
>http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=939096

I have a triple monitor setup and I eagerly await being able to use gzdoom using the hardware renderer at 16:3.

>>3497482
Did they also uncap FOV? Last I checked you couldn't push it above 180.

> made it to SLAYER in plutonia
Dis shit is ez

http://kinsie.tumblr.com/post/150415693677/metadoom

>Recently, Flat Sprites were outright removed from GZDoom pending a complete rewrite that has no timeframe. This sucks for several reasons. First, it sucks because many of the most prominent effects in MetaDoom were done with Flat Sprites in ways that cannot be imitated using a flat billboard model as a substitute. Second, it sucks because it was only ever posted about on a forum all of three people read that should have been merged into the ZDoom forums at least five years ago, meaning I was caught off guard several days after it happened! And finally, it sucks because I’m really close to a v1.0 stable release and was looking forwards to getting it out in the next week or two.

>Making people suffer through a version of the mod with half the effects removed is crap. Forcing people to use a VERY SPECIFIC devbuild instead of the latest one is a shitty, lazy copout. As such, unlike certain mods I could name, I’ve opted to remove the download link and replace the OP of the MetaDoom thread with a copy of this message. You can still download and play the mod if you go digging through all the posts for the latest release, it’s just going to be missing a whole ton of nice visuals that add to the experience, and it’s also much older than the version that’s almost ready for release.

>I’m very sorry about this, and will have the mod back up and ready once the new Flat Sprites implementation is complete. Or a week afterwards, if the GZDoom devs’ messaging continues to be as brilliant as it has been.

Ladies and gentlemen, modern GZDoom modding.

Man, I'm glad I'm sticking with WhackEd 4 for my mod.

>>3497591
>modding for devbuilds
c'mon son

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>>3497591
Ouch. Now that's gotta sting.

>>3497614
only dev builds have A_Overlay and anonymous functions

they're pretty game-changing let me tell you hwat

>>3497662
oh they're game changing, but then graf zahl comes over to shit in your cornflakes.

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>>3497667
:(

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Alright. That's that, thanks to shivers i have something good.

Now to actually start on the attack.

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>>3497749
Good.

>>3497749
Looking sweeeet.

>>3497749
Pretty neat

>>3497749
Is there a ice sword ? If so can you make the ice death more satisfying than in hexen

>>3497835

Good question. Right now there's a sword tech to reflect each subweapon

dagger = rapid cuts (not sure on element, could be ice or water here)

lance = thunder stinger

torch = firebrand

axe = crescent slash (lunar energy, so like, a lightsaber swing)

shield = gale force (wind)

hammer = hammer (hammer)

>>3497857
Nice.

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>>3496798
>[09-14] Mutiny community project final version released
>https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1668971
holy shit this is hard

>>3497857
but what is hammer

>>3497878

hammer

>>3497882
but *why* is hammer

>>3497878
>>3497895

Hammer

>>>/wsg/1298820

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>>3497878

>>3496928
Alice is into /ss/?
that would explain why she was into Term at some point
Hot.

>>3496890
still here, just not spending half my life compiling news posts any more! life is good. thanks to the people who took over, you're doing a fine job.

>>3496928
Shotagun

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Can anyone recommend any urban mapsets with good detail and medium challenge?

>>3498101
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/3471059/#3473940

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Master Levels
master2.zip (50 KB, 2005-01-20) - William "the kid" Cochran
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=13170

not the actual master levels, a somewhat unfortunate title but as was pointed out on /idgames this was made years before final doom appeared. although the name is hardly deserved as these two maps (replacing the start of E2) are clearly someone's first attempts at using an editor.

the first: default textures, pitch dark rooms with massive caches of ammunition, and very few monsters. light goggles in a secret area behind a fake wall, and an inescapable nukage pool, with both a BFG, and the key you're probably looking for, in it. there's another key somewhere else. don't do it! take the erroneously-placed second exit linedef that allows exiting the map in a few seconds instead.

the second is much better than the first, but still is a basic maze of rooms to explore. still tons of ammo, but in many secret areas (23 in total, 22 accessible). the larger rooms are more fun. two cyberdemon encounters, the first has you chased around a couple of central rooms connected by multiple side tunnels by a lot of monsters, the second an arena with two of the things. however, you are provided with more than enough invulnerabilities. i did enjoy the second map enough to play it two or three times although the slower parts running through chains of small rooms and 64-thick doors let it down.

So how long does take to learn how to make maps in Doom (and then TF2) if I don't know how to code?

>>3498190
Doom: Can you draw a box on a piece of paper?
TF2/Source: Listed in the dictionary under "WORLD OF HURT"

>>3498190
Some basic coding is required to make switches and platforms work correctly. Some not-so-basic coding is required to make anything above a simple switch.

TF2 is completely different

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>>3497614
I knew things would be a little fucky with devving for devbuilds, but a.) I wanted to play with the new toys after a good while of having to stick with Zandro3 compat with nuSamsara and b.) I don't think new features have ever been outright **removed** after the fact before.

Ah, well. I guess I'll just have to move to EDGE.

>>3498205
Now that's how you do an HD sprite

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>>3498205
>Ah, well. I guess I'll just have to move to EDGE.

Let's not do anything rash now.

Kinda hit and miss but it got a chuckle out of me.

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=53410

>>3498205
>I don't think new features have ever been outright **removed** after the fact before.
really, never? wow it must have been very badly written

i wonder if there are any other mods in the same position. who else is known for depending on unstable features as soon as they land? hideous destructor?

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http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=53219

>plutonia simulator

>>3498230
this has been posted already.

>>3498230
So it replaces monsters and tacks on some extra features for no apparent reason?

>>3498230
>>3498232
>>3498245
some doom memes will never die it seems

>>3498205
Polymost, light size, light intensity, torque simulation, hqnx (might have come back, don't know because it's a filter), opengl 2.0 support, not spamming the console when a script tries to use an item that doesn't exist.

There has to be more but I can't think of any or find any.

Anyone remember Polymost? Man, there were no rules back then.

>>3498254
I don't remember poly let getting anywhere beyond wireframes

>>3498257
A lawless land of heathens and barbarians.

>>3498257
polymost*

autocorrect, fucking *please*

>>3498205
>I guess I'll just have to move to EDGE
DON'T DO IT ANON!

>>3498254
Console spam has since been restricted to developer mode.

What are commonly needed props that don't have enough sprites?

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Added something that every Dark Souls homage needs. Complete with sound.

Also I cleaned up the debug information screen because a lot of variables were now unused. I added a display for i-frames too.

>>3497591
>Flat sprites

????

>>3498290
Good graphics of magazines for first person weapon sprites, very few are good at all, many times a magazine for an assault rifle is just based on that crude old Nam' graphic where it's a chunky box with no feed lips and a single row of cartridges. Or subgun mags with no feed lips and a single column of cartridges.

Otherwise, I guess army rations and shit could be cool, like various MRE packets or something, maybe just various doodads and items that you would find around a military base, or a space base.

Maybe treasure items, a little like in the vein of Wolf 3D.

>>3498346
Love it, darling.

Anybody wanna do a wad about MAIDAN?

>>3498346
I was honestly expecting a GiantDad joke.

>>3498205
>Ah, well. I guess I'll just have to move to EDGE.

Whoah now.

>>3498205
Don't throw away your mods over this! Persevere, be strong.

seriously what is the point of removing features for devs? is graf just on a power trip?

>>3498502
the legend isn't a joke

>>3498521
I think he doesn't want broken features released, as then the broken version has to be kept in the engine for backwards compatibility with mods that used it, and it clutters things up.

>>3498532
hi graf.

>>3498521
The feature didn't work as intended and the code was sloppy and implemented because it was really old and Graf forgot about the pull request, but now that it's in issues are coming up. Graf wants to redo it and make it better without keeping old stuff in to complicate the massive web of nonsense that is GZDoom.

>From Graf
The reason I ditched this is because I want to do it RIGHT!
But if a release gets out with this mess in a later fix is no longer doable. And I do not consider this critical enough to postpone the release until I have suffiently free time which may be a few weeks off.
The code as it was was unsalvageable, it had to go no matter what.

My main problem with reviewing this is that of course the demos I got were tailored to the implementation and looked ok. It was just after I was doing some more explicit tests to see how the rotations stack when I noticed that some things did not work as intended. I'm sorry this passed the review but the convoluted state of the code was a major contributor there.

What needs to be done is to do the initial coordinates already in flat space and then rotate from there, not as this did, by starting with a wall sprite and rotate it around until something useful-looking comes out - and then make sure that the rotations work as intended.

The good thing is, the wall sprites are fully working as intended, everything absolutely behaves in a sane fashion.

The new implementation should support rotation along all three axes. What I cannot guarantee is that you may have to make adjustments.

With one sprite I tested the z-position was all wrong and rotations did not end up where they should, that's what prompted me to remove the code.

>>3498535
>But if a release gets out with this mess in a later fix is no longer doable. And I do not consider this critical enough to postpone the release until I have suffiently free time which may be a few weeks off.
Translation: If this busted codes makes it into an official release, it has to stay in for backwards compatibility. It can no longer be changed and if Graf wants to add better code it'll have to be FLATSPRITE_EX or something because he can't replace it entirely without breaking mods that relied on an official release's functions. If it breaks a mod that relied on a devbuild, oh well it's a devbuild and it's to be expected.

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This run animation is goofy.

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>>3498346
Working on adding status effects. Currently Poison is in and working 100%. I've only laid the foundations for bleed. Not sure about toxic..

>>3498546
I'M JUST RUNNING IN THE NINETIES

COME ON BABY RUN TO ME

>>3498535
thats..fair i guess? still he could've just worked on the new code separately and then just removed the old shit and added it when it was finished rather than just removing it outright and making us wait however long for an alternative. better than just halting devs.

>>3498582
But if it's still in they'll just be developing mods that use a feature that's going to be removed later anyway. The new version isn't going to react the same to the old inputs, he's changing how it rotates and likely adding new options / changing old options to better control the rotation so it's less of a crapshoot with 3 dimensions.

>>3498535
>>3498541
>>3498582

There's a lot of perfectly valid reasons to shit on Graf, but this isn't one.
The dev-builds are in-development, not final. So anything in them is completely subject to remove stuff if it turns out to not be working.

It's like expecting mods in-development to stick with every feature they added and not remove any if they aren't working.
Only difference is that GZDoom publicizes its builds with every single goddamn push on the git, which are then automatically compiled and uploaded every couple of days.

>>3498592
he could just warn devs that he's working on a better alternative that you'll potentially have to work around. the point is i don't think it's a good idea to just spring this on to people
>>3498595
im not shitting on graf, i'm just saying there's more elegant ways to do something like this that wouldn't piss off devs as much

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>>3498558
I work quick when I want to, I suppose. Bleeding is now in, currently only executable from a script but it will be applied to monsters, dunno which yet. Perhaps I'll make variants of monsters which deal different damage types. Blood ettins anyone?

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it's a trap of the format, honestly.

dev builds are supposed to be for testing, not serious development.
but because of all the cool features (and extremely protracted release schedule), people aim for serious development with them
this is great for bug fixing and figuring out stuff that's broken but not so good for making stable releases

moral of the story: stop fucking developing for dev-builds unless you're 100% sure you can make things work if they go tits-up

>>3498603
It's a lot to ask for Graf to make a blog post about every github commit when the people that are dead set on using unsupported developmental builds can look at the github themselves. If they don't understand what his commit summarizations mean, which are essentially warnings of every change made, maybe they should stick to an official build. https://github.com/coelckers/gzdoom/commit/30cb651d9241a54c3d808850a992866829e1ad60

Maybe Graf should point out the obvious on the devbuild page and say that it's "Developmental, unsupported, and nothing is guaranteed to work. If you don't want your mod to break a weak after releasing it, use the official build."

>>3498616

I'm not asking for a blog post, but I do wish the big official GZDoom discussion and notices therein wouldn't be on another fucking forum entirely.

>>3498618
this
drdteam's forums are awful
why isn't gzdoom discussion on the zdoom forums anyway

>>3498618
Yes. Fucking yes.

>>3498618

this, basically

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>>3498562

>>3498618
Yeah I totally agree with that. I know it makes sense to Graf because drdteam.org hosts all the GZDoom stuff and all the dev builds and used to be the main filehost for the forums and maybe he doesn't want to split off all the old posts from a forum change, but everyone's at ZDoom.org now. Have been for years.

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Is this Doom or Quake?

>>3498647
Yes.

>>3498647
No.

>>3498647

I dunno, maybe.

>>3498647
unreal

>>3498647
ultima underworld

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN1N05WmiqU

Literally who? Made something blatantly pandering to this thread

Shame on you, literally who?

>>3498647
i think it's Requiem map15

>>3498667
Gameplay looks tits, but I never liked early 3D modeling, I don't get why anyone would mimic that, sprites would have been better.

>>3498685
early 3d is comfy as heck

>>3498685
>Gameplay looks tits
sorry is that good or bad?

>>3498647
My guess would be Rise of the Triad.

>>3498685
aesthetic aside it's just easier to make a model and animate it instead of drawing a bunch of sprites

>>3498689
He means it looks like dog's bollocks

>>3498667
HD Texture Pack: The Game

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>>3498687
I kind of disagree, even back in the day I felt that Half-Life character and weapon models were ugly as sin, and I fucking love the game.

>>3498689
Titties are good, anon, any size of titties in fact.

>>3498691
True, though prerendering exists for a reason, and many games back in the day utilized it.

I understand it as a stylistic choice, and I guess it's kind of neat to see, but largely that stuff was too crude to actually look aesthetically pleasing, at least in my own opinion.

>>3498696
No I do not.

>>3498667
i'm usually pissed at the lack of FBA, but in that case YOU'RE JUST FLOATING WEAPONS, HOW IS THIS ALLOWED?
i hope it's just a prototype thing

>>3498705
you literally listed THE comfiest early 3d game

>>3498708
FBA?

>>3498715
Full Body Awareness
basically having a character that's more than a camera with hand(s)

>>3498667
>Made something blatantly pandering to this thread

You're fucking weird, dude.

>>3498712
that's not brave fencer musashi

>>3498708

I think the floating weapons thing is really cool.
Game looks neat, looking forward to it.

>>3498705
>Titties are good, anon, any size of titties in fact.
>No I do not.
Dog's bollocks means the same thing, I'm just trying to confuse the poor anon further

>>3498716
Oh. I fucking hate that. It's too uncanny and obviously not my body that it's more immersion breaking than not having an awkwardly angled low poly body in the first place.

Same with helmets. Fuck everyone who keeps pushing helmets over the camera.

>>3498718
It's a good kind of pander, one that should be practised more often

>>3498712
Half-Life is comfy because of it's levels, because of it's narrative, because of it's gameplay, because of it's atmosphere.

I always play it with at least the HD pack, because things actually look like things with it.

>>3498712
That would be thief or system shock 2. MOSTLY owing to their stellar sound design, while half life had stock sound effects throughout.

>If your graphics look like shit, at least make it sound great

>hd textures
>full body awareness
jeepers this thread took a turn o_O

>>3498716
>Full Body Awareness
2 games in history of the universe ever did that well. Dark messiah and mirror's edge. Then it was abandoned as a fad that it was.

>>3498731
thief & system shock are too tense to be comfy

halflife, deus ex and spyro do it for me

>>3498724
>Fuck everyone who keeps pushing helmets over the camera.
fuck you helmets are cool

they're really really easy to mess up and look hideous, though.
see: that abysmal shitty ultimate doom II visor thing

>>3498739
Yeah I see what you mean. Though being good at thief I'm never tense in it. Half life has this stop and go structure quake also had, makes you appreciate down time.

>>3498742
If the helmet is 3D, has refractions, self shadow and built in windshield wiper to clean off the blood (republic commando basically) then it's good

If it's a flat texture (doom, stalker) then it sucks

>>3498748
more like your face sucks

yeah

take that

>>3498748
>3D, has refractions, self shadow and built in windshield wiper to clean off the blood
these all sound terrible. except maybe the last one, which could be a humorous gimmick but would get old after a few minutes.

>>3498736
i'm pretty sure that a lot more games did it.
if i remember well, it was at least in montezuma's return, shadow warrior 2013 and it could really easily be modded in in fo3/NV and skyrim

and yeah, imo it really makes sense in terms of gameplay (bloody plateformer elements) and immersion
there's really no reasons not to do it, except laziness

>>3498647
I guess a weir amalgamation of various famous FPS games at the time, with Doom being it's biggest source of inspiration.

That file name tho...

>>3498763
That is a baseless, not to mention rude, statement.

>>3498764
Well it does obscure your FoV, but done right it looks neat if a bit disctracting. If you ever played stalker with gas mask overlay mods then that's how you don't do helmets.

>>3498765
>i'm pretty sure that a lot more games did it.
They did it alright. But none did it well.

>>3498748
>If the helmet is 3D, has refractions, self shadow and built in windshield wiper

Why would you want any of that?

>>3498771
>That is a baseless, not to mention rude, statement.
AND SO'S YOUR MUM

>>3498771
more like your face is a rude statement

>>3498775
>>3498776

GOD DAAAAAAAAAMN ANON COMING OUT WITH THE HEAT TONIGHT

>>3498772
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChwU7o55rIc

I think it's kinda neat. The old spess mehrin fantasy. And that's what vidya games boil down to at the end of the day.

>>3498771
>If you ever played stalker with gas mask overlay mods then that's how you don't do helmets.

Honestly, what I get more from that is "don't have graphics that are in the way", which can be applied to HUDs that are or aren't helmets.

>>3498786
In a lot of games the protagonist is already wearing a motorcycle helmet for all intents and purposes. Lens flares (not how human eyes work), blood smears, etc.

/r/ing a mod where picking up an armor bonus gives you a helmet hud and it persists until your armor is 0

>>3498546
Can you add my ex?

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>>3497591
>yfw it takes five years for this to be implemented

>>3498826
what

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this tiny knocker...

>tiny knockers
lewd

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>>3498887
>>3498948

Big knockers are the best.

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>>3498948
delicious flat knockers

>>3498960
i bet the ceiling of that lab has "holding hands" written on it

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>>3498976
>h*** h******
Enjoy your v&

>>3498667
Level design looks Doom II-tier

>>3498667
Game looks fun as fuck. That mid-air combat looks incredible.
Graphics are still shit though. They're trying so hard to emulate the retro style that it's looking shittier than it should.
Quake didn't have people with fucking Dorito chip heads and texture-less skies.
They should've done something similar to what STRAFE is doing.
Make it look like "the game you remember playing".

>>3498667
eh.

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we mario now

>>3498667
I saw this at PAX. Didn't play it though. It looks kinda okay, but they missed the mark on a lot of the 3D. Unpanned textures and shit that wouldn't fly in any game past heretic. Certainly not quake.

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>attrition becomes nuclear throne by mission 8
Holy shit. I may have made a few mistakes.

>>3499290
>played like dozens of levels of attrition on the score attack mode to grind all my weapons to maximum
>mfw the enemy spawns

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>they removed the megaton edition of duke 3d off steam

>>3499316
They blatantly try to grab cash with an inferior re-release.

>>3498613
I didn't even play Dark Souls, but I want to try this out quite badly, it looks pretty sweet so far.

Guys are there any Skulltag/Zandro style Invasion maps for z/gzdoom singleplayer? I always loved invasion but want to use gzdoom weapon/monster mods with them, but had no luck finding anything that isn't a near full-modification (like Stronghold).

>>3497105
>>3497128
I managed to fix it with a combination of things.

I used the stable version of Zandronum, a merge patch for both skulltags pk3s (called skulltag_contant2.1a.pk3) and set the compatibility mode to "zdoom" in the options menu. I don't know which out of the 3 things managed to fix everything, but it managed to solve alot of the problems I have been having.

>>3499490

Armageddon Invasion 2 and Delta/Alpha Invasion are pretty awesome invasion maps to play by yourself or with bots. Complex doom is another good one and although it modifies alot of things, it sticks to the original invasion formula.

>>3499536
>Complex doom is another good one

>>3499092
>They should've done something similar to what STRAFE is doing.
Nooooooooooooooooooooo

>>3499536
Yeah I played Armageddon in Zandro (well it was still Skulltag back in the day) but I am specifically looking for gzdoom equivalents, some good arenas to play with custom weapons and whatnot.

I could perhaps make some with ACS and some custom spawner actors and shit, but I am a horrible mapper, I can only do the code part right.

>>3499549
>Nooooooooooooooooooooo
You okay there?
I don't entirely agree with what STRAFE is doing gameplay-wise, but honestly the game is great visually so far. Really dig that one outdoor area's aesthetics so far.

>>3499598
You talk exactly like one of the guys working on it.

>>3499605
Wow!

You are superfast at being mad!

>>3499615
Nah, it's just that I'm friends with one of the environment artists

>>3499092
>Quake didn't have people with fucking Dorito chip heads
i think the idea is that they have kkk-esque hoods

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ayyyyyyyyy

https://clyp.it/xl4oh134

Back at it again with Synth1

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>>3499864
Nice. Looking good.

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>>3496928
>shota class
>death(brutal
I don't like the sound of this.

You guys why does plutonia throw viles and skellies on the first mission

>>3499996
because you touch yourself at night

>>3499696
I think it's meant to be more of a Jason from Friday the 13th thing. He actually didn't even show up in the first movie, and in the second he wore a bag over his head. It was the third one that he had the hockey mask.

>>3500003
B-But I thought Jason always had a hockey mask! And a chainsaw!

>>3500010
Machete, not chainsaw

>>3500013
I thought it was obvious my post was a joke.

>>3500015
I am not a smart man

>>3497345
Old pic, sorry anon

>>3498876
As a monster, like a dino.

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>>3498976
wow what sort of a pervert are you, anon

>>3499864
good shit anon

but where's my moist nugget

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>>3500324
its right here
i dont have a good firing sound for it so i put it on low priority

maybe you have a good one?

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funky lighting

(hr2 map24)

How well would Doom work for a game with some degree of stealth mechanics?

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>>3500735
As in turning Doom into a stealth game?

>>3500735
Brutal Doom and HD both have enemies that lose active status when left alone for awhile.

HD doesn't really have anything to take advantage of stealth and BD lets you punch/kick shit silently I guess.

It is kinda janky to try and take advantage of stealth.

D2 Reloaded had a stealth level where you can't shoot and enemies were set up in spots where you have to go around or time your advancement with stuff blocking their vision.

It's a bit janky no matter how you look at it, but it should be possible to do some very light stealth mechanics.

>>3500747
What is that white pillar?

>>3500754
Technician from DRLA has little beacons that display above pickups for easy rarity identification, likely since he can turn any non-white weapon into a modpack.

I'd say he's the most flexible class in the mod.

>>3500757
Wow nice, I haven't played DRLA in a while.

I usually played Marine when I did.

>>3500763
Technician is a nice middle ground considering you're not tactically pigeonholed into using certain types of weapons to make the most of your choice, but rather instead assemblies in general. You can also startscum for a random basic assembly at game start, this means you can start out with a sniper rifle that can one-shot Revenants.

Scout is also a fun one and is pretty much the only reason you'll bother with pistols.

Only class that didn't really click with me was Renegade, which was mostly just better shotguns and instant weapon switch.

>>3500786
instant weap switch is gold for heavy weaps (like RLs and BFGs)

imo, DRLA really shines in coop squads

>Vinesauce forums down for days due to MYSqL error
>no word from the Swede, instead streaming Dark Souls 3

Fucking hell.

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Implemented moss, now you can clear your bleed or poison buildup. Also there's enemy variants which deal certain status effects. Like the pictured 'blood ettin', who builds bleed with each hit (whoda thunked it)

Also, basic pickups are now in. Using placeholder graphics, that is.

>>3501007
Is this some kind of Souls-like Hexen RPG?

>>3501012
Yeah pretty much. I wanna take aspects of both games and make something decent of it.

I've been working on this for 2 and half years

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Straight out of Blender, no cleanup. It would look better if the normals weren't busted but that's beyond me.

>>3501017
That amount of time is really nothing compared to lots of other megawads ain't it? But still, good job on tinkering with it as a hobby for so long.

>>3501051
I suppose its a long time for a single person to work on something, with nothing to show but a few .webms and screenshots.

I actually realised that this dates back to October 2013, so it's coming up to three years old. woah.

>>3501064
You'll finish it at some point, but don't rush. Keep it as a hobby that you sometimes work on like what most Doom modders/mappers do.

>>3501067
I have no doubts that I will finish this.

It's just going to take a very, very long time

>>3501083
As long as you have a clear idea of what your actual goal is, never ever will become now at some point as long as you keep working diligently like a good autist. I wager people can live with a slow pour of content as long as they know that you're still working on whatever good shit you're making, especially if it's innovative and looks promising.

t. fellow vaporwad dev

Major Cooke is reportedly closing in on the finish line for the new FLATSPRITE code.

>>3501086
thanks anon, that's a real good motivational speech!

>>3501093
Don't mention it, I'm especially hyped for this because there's a draught of good Hexen and Heretic content, and I've been dying to play around with either one I made a primitive Undead Asylum map a while ago, but you probably know how it feels alternating between projects - things slow down a lot, which is bad, so.

If you haven't played Severance, I highly recommend giving it a playthrough if you want some extra inspiration for melee combat. I think Souls is the better series for RPG elements, but combat in the former is fucking metal.

Man, Plutonia is fucking awesome. Dat 31st level. That's how you do a town. I hope Plutonia 2 is as good.

>>3501104
>I made a primitive Undead Asylum map a while ago
post link

>>3501114
It's in some long lost development folder along with D1 Tristram and a few other testing maps, and wasn't particularly detailed - it was pretty much just a rough blueprint. I might find and polish it up later now that your project is a thing, but I don't want to get too distracted by dank Hexen magic just yet.

invasions when

Is it possible for the pain state to have more than one frame? Like, a two frame animation that loops briefly and then goes back to normal?

>>3501138
yeah just put that in the pain state in the decorate

>>3501146
Ah, I figured it out. I just need to have the frame letter sequence repeat themself.

>>3501041
try switching from world space to tangent space normals

>>3500641
Fancy. How do? bunch of small zones that are lit differently? How is it flush?

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>>3501167
>How is it flush?
it's not. up close, it's a bunch of tiny triangles.

What mods let you summon/revive enemies you killed to be on your side?

>>3501185
Oh those tricky fuckers. Pretty good though. Kinda bothers me that the bars aren't shadowed.

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What was that mod that let you use a book of brick sorcery?

>>3499223
That looks incredibly cute! But then again, I'm a huge sucker for other videogame cameos in Doom like games!

>>3501230
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=51066

>>3501230
Combined Arms

>>3501041
>>3501045

Looks good, just needs a little bit of polishing and it'd be good.
If I wanted to use this for a project, what name should I credit you with?

Does anyone perhaps still have the Bestever backup Jenova uploaded to best-ever, that is now unreachable?

>>3501191
Ooh I'd be interested in this as well. All I know Possess Me lets you take control of dead bodies.

>>3501191
town infection has a mace weapon that does exact that in one of its trillion iterations. I remember that came with its own mapsets though.

>>3501191
>>3501297
Aeons of Death has a spellbook that revives enemies and a monster summoner weapon dropped by one of the boss monsters, but I'm not sure that you'll really want to play THAT mod.

>>3501309
Why not?

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>>3501321

>>3501324
ooh burn

>>3501321
Textbook example of Quantity Over Quality, it just takes all kinds of things from 90's FPS games and just shoves it all in there with a bunch of randomizers and little thought, it's an inconsistent mess.

Did someone experience the release of Doom: Rampage Edition first hand?

>>3501309
>>3501321
>>3501324
It actually looks kind of awesome imo

>>3501381
try it then, just don't type any weapon cheats, only gives you like 7 out of the 100 or so and locks you from getting any more through normal means for some reason.

>>3499864
reminds me of STALKER a bit?

>>3500641
all that effort and it didnt even do sector lighting for the bars on the window.

>>3501382
tends to happen a lot with most mods that feature a ton of guns you carry all at the same time

>>3501384
Maybe there weren't enough visplanes left.

>>3501234
It's not really mario, but just cartoony styled. I think the doom engine could really pull a "retro" styled game off pretty well. Or at least minimalist. Adventures of square looks pretty nice, though overall is a little too MSPaint-ey for me.

>>3501424
I typed this without realizing doom IS retro. What I mean is like... low poly, different genre, different art style sort of thing...

https://youtu.be/bWvwXhMrgdM

>>3501191
one of the big weap ressource wads has a necromonicon that does that, i'm pretty sure
(i think it was the one with a lightsaber that lets you parry projectiles)

>>3501434
that plasma rifle is dead as fuck

>>3501447
Well... At least it's useful in the context of the game.

>>3501442
http://zdoom.org/wiki/Weapons_Resource_WAD#Power_Level_N
that's what it was, check it out.

basic weapons randomizers are really easy to make, so...

>>3498346
this looks pretty good any way to follow the development?

>Script error, "ketchupV5.pk3:decorate.blood.txt" line 545:
>Expected ',', got 'l'.

help

>>3501527
update gzdoom would be your first action

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>>3501531
>download latest

>'GL_ARB_sampler_objects' extension not found.
>Please update your graphics driver.

>driver is updated

>>3501531
heh not this time

>>3501527
the author typed l in place of 1 in a bunch of places. the engine used to ignore this (silently using 0 instead of the intended 0.1) but now it's an error.

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>>3501540
Do you think he will fix it soon Anon?
Ketchup makes a lot of meals better like mashed potatoes, hotdogs and pancakes to name a few

>>3501540
>find and replace
>I -> 1
>break everything else

>>3501540
Mark is kind of a dumbass like that.

>>3501546
>ketchup on pancakes
Literally subhuman.

>>3501546
Don't know.

>>3501485
I usually frequent these threads, but if you're asking about a blog or anything, then no - I don't.

I could always make a tumblr, would anyone else follow a development blog if I made one?

>>3501604
CHABAWA CHABAWA CHABAWA

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>>3501589
Okay dudes, I bit and made a tumblr. I'm not the best at these sorts of things (hell, I don't even use tumblr, I have no idea what I'm doing) but I've made a couple of posts and hopefully I'll keep it updated.

http://hexen-souls.tumblr.com/

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>>3501612
Player was raped by Zeus

>>3501309
> Aeons of Death
Can someone explain to me what the fuck that mod is about? I hate forum posts that act like everyone knows what the fuck something is, as if you where there for the very first release. Other mods do it, too.

>>3498653
this kid is the truth

>>3501740
you could at least read the replies.

>>3501740
Nigger, what is Google? What is youtube?

>>3496796
Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I'm looking for a Defrag movie that features the song "Blid & Theorized - Mindless thoughts" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc019IdGQlU). Can't seem to find it anywhere.

>>3501743
>>3501748
It looks like a clusterfuck. Is that it?

>>3501761
maybe.

>>3501761
That's it, you just described it. A clusterfuck.

I was thinking about a mod with loads of weapons, with some of them being direct upgrades of the others (4-5 weapons per type, first being direct upgrades, last 2 are sidegrades that compliment each other), and a way of weaponselection that does not limit the player's capability to carry guns, and don't turn into a clusterfuck at the same time.

So the idea is this: Have 4/5 slots, with any weapon being equipable into any slot. When player holds the key for 3 sec, a selection screen appears that allows him to assign a weapon to the selected key.

What do you think of this idea and how can I do it?

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>>3501740
Its a monster & weapon randomizer, taking weapons and monsters from different games and implementing into doom. It is a bit of a clusterfuck, but not as much as Hardcore Doom Wars (pic related). its playable and somewhat fun, but not everyone's cup of tea, as evidenced by it's worst wad cacoward.

>>3501743
>>3501748
>>3501763
>>3501767
See, it isn't that hard to answer someone's question in detail.

>>3497876
It's also really damn fun with RLA.

What would be a good way to speed up the Archvile attack sprites without making the attack itself faster?

>>3501873
>>3501761
that said the sixth version allows you to theme the monster spawns, so that you only get ''sci fi-themed'' or ''medieval fantasy themed'' etc so that it stops being an inconsistent mess.

but I still prefer v5.

>>3501885
Smoothdoom?

>>3501885
Because I've been thinking of having the first frame last longer, and then having the rest played at increased speed.

>>3501898
oh
well that saves me some trouble

which duke expansion to play next?

evens for nuclear winter
odds for life's a beach

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>>3501946

>>3501946

you poor soul

>>3501653
Awesome, I'm very looking forward to play this!

>>3501986
You're not a smart man.

>>3501998
Fuck you deathwish is gr8

>>3501986
>Duke3d is literally the worst 2.5D out of the ones people still talk about

That's a strange way to spell "Strife".

>>3501653
Keep it up senpai, you're a fucking legend.

>>3501946
Only duke expansion worth playing is life's a beach. Nuclear Winter sucks for obvious reasons and Duke it out in DC is mediocre at best.

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>>3502023
>Strife has a lot going for it.

>>3502035
STOP
ENABLING
THE
SHITTER

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>not a single good synthwave or cyberpunk mod

>>3502063
Ancient Aliens is pretty a e s t h e t i c desu senpai

>>3502063

there was one
but it died a horrible death
it was nothing more than a flavor of the month
just like vaporwave

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>>3502063

>>3502085
>just like vaporwave
vaporwave is like the one meme genre that isn't a flavor of the month ffs

>>3502089
could an EYE wad work?

Is there a Hexen mapset that changes the gameplay to be less like a long puzzle maze and more like Doom?

>>3502063
Someone should make a Zdoom port of William Shatner's Tekwar.

Except, y'know, good.

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>>3502124
>meme genre

>>3502142
..ok pretend i used a different term. my point still stands

>>3502023
Duke is still good today, but it wasn't as consistently good as Doom (for comparison) in any area except for maybe sound. It was a lot more gimmicky and "fun for funs sake" though.

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I've seen a lot of people who say Shadow Warrior or Blood as the worst/hardest build engine game ever.

Have they not played Redneck Rampage?

>>3502126
I've been kicking around the idea of remaking dream sequence in idtech, but came to conclusion I'm a) too shit at mapping b) the tech is too primitive

>>3502178
>Have they not played Redneck Rampage?
Blood is definitely harder than rednecks, and rednecks are generally considered a shit game for twats

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Whatever happened to Lydia

He said he was gonna start updating again a while ago

>>3502178
Blood isn't necessarily a hard game once you start to get the hang of it, it's just that at the start you feel very weak and underpowered because most of your weapons either kinda suck or don't get much ammo. Once you start to get the hang of the game, it gets a lot easier and the later levels make ammo a lot less scarce.

Shadow Warrior is hard as fuck. Genuinely, sincerely hard as fuck. No question about it.

Redneck Rampage isn't a hard game, but it's also not a good one. It's playable and it has a few neat ideas (the sawblade thrower for example) but it's far from a good game.

>>3502178
>>3502197
>>3502209
You guys hate fun. Redneck Rampage is good.

>>3502212
It's the roughest around the edges compared to Duke 3D, Shadow Warrior and Blood. Also the levels go on too long, are too confusing and the gunplay feels shitty.

Plutonia Experiment - DONE

Man this campaign is fucking amazing. I only wish you could FUCKING TELL WHEN THE FLOOR HURTS AND WHEN IT DOESN'T CAUSE FUCK KNOWS IT'S 50/50 EVERY FUCKING TIME

>>3502178
ok am i just projecting or were the giant vixens totally just sneaky giantess porn

>>3502229

Considering it's very easy to guess the author's opinions on women with his other mods, it's very likely.

>>3502246
redneck rampage was made by one guy?

>>3502227
Going on to Evilution (what a retarded name)

>>3502290
It's not as good as PE. I advise skipping TNT and just playing Plutonia 2 instead.

>>3502327
I disagree and think it's totally worth playing.

>>3502142
south park reactions are so fucking cringy.

>>3502327
nope.

>>3502332
For what?

>>3502327
It's not as punishing as Plutonia, but it's superior in almost every other way.

>>3502356
Like what?

>>3502343
because it's ___

seriously methinks you might be looking way into this somehow

>>3502257

Oh, I was thinking of the giantess vixens from NeoDoom. My mistake.

>>3502343
For fun. I just wouldn't skip it entirely is all. You can always go back to it if you want to play Plutonia 2 first.

>>3502378
yeah i figured thats what you were referring to. what else has he made?

Any good megawads released recently? Looking for some Doom

>>3502461
No, but Plutonia 3 may come out soon. I hope it doesn't suck like the second, although it probably will.

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Compared to the various megawads released throughout the years, where does Plutonia fit on the difficulty scale?

>>3502471
Mid tier.

>>3502478
So likes of say TNT are babby tier?

If I beat Plutonia 2 on U-V does it count as beating Doom 1 and 2 on U-V? I like the original games, but don't wanna play them again unless maybe on nightmare, but...

>>3502471
>that image
What is the literally gayest Doom mod?

>>3502471
47

>>3502486
No. Only beating Doom 1 and Doom 2 counts as beating Doom 1 and 2. You have no obligation to beat them though. Just play what you want.