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>>3424773

Stop.

I'm running through as many DQ games as possible in order, about to start 3.

NES, SNES, or GBC version?

>>3424779
SNES is you like the graphics
GBC if you want the extra dungeon + Pachisi board

>>3424779
SNES version. GBC version only if you want more bonus content with overall graphics and music quality sacrificed.

But thou must!

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>>3424776
>Here kids, try some of this!

>>3424839
>>3424842
NES version is most difficult right? I prefer harder to easier.

>>3424859
Yep. Each remake makes the game a little easier over the previous version.

What's up with the font and UI for the mobile releases?

Such a small thing that bugs me to no end.

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>>3424878
Ugly text and poor UI isn't just a problem with the Dragon Quest releases. Just don't buy shitty mobile ports made by developers who don't care, moral of the story.

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>>3424887
Also here's final fantasy too because Square Enix don't give a fuck.

>>3424887
>>3424893
MY EYES
THEY BURN

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>>3424893
"Hey lets make shitty mobile games and than put those on PC!"

>>3424905
Reminder that 20 people on a development team all sit down and think this is a good idea.

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>>3424912
How can anyone see this and go "yeah looks good to me!"?

>>3424914
all these screenshots look completely terrible. how out of touch do you have to be to think a shitty cut&paste job is good enough?

figaro castle looks completely retarded in that other screenshot.

I guess staying true to the originals is way too much to ask.

>>3424923
These games have been ported to hell and back a million times and sqenis knows that their drooling base will eat it up anyway so they hand it off to an amateur team with a super tight deadline

>>3424905
>>3424914
no! stop! I can't take it anymore!

>>3424925
that makes sense.

square was good, enix was good, but square-enix, not so much.

I understand how industries work, how they just churn things out and rehash them like memes, but still. you'd think someone at these companies would have artistic integrity and respect for these games. instead, they fuck em up every single time.

I hate DQ1's battle theme.

Give me something to replace it with.

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>>3424927
DQ1 looks better but the ratio is FUCKED. So everything looks squished. DQ2 I think suffers the same problem. Guess we can be happy DQ3 is fixed of that issue but as been said before the lack of the gameboard that is in the SNES is awful.

>>3424940
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsaHCXNbYPI
At least give it a listen

>>3424948
The reason 1 and 2 are like that is because they're just lazily stretched to a higher resolution. They were originally flip-phone games or something and ported to smart phones later.
3 was also on flip-phones but it wasn't another remake like 1 and 2 but rather a port, so I guess it didn't have that issue? I don't even know.

>>3424952
All good, found a replacement.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZHrceDusOc

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>>3424964
I'm being baited, right?

>>3424954
Oh I know why they are fucked. Just annoying how they don't care to try to fix it. Still wondering why DQ1-4 NES and the FF games aren't on Nintendo's VC.

Has anyone here successfully played DQ7 on a PSP GO?

I've been battling it for about 2 hours, can't really seem to get past the blue screen issue. Seems to be a pretty common issue, judging by forum postings.

/vr/. I think Alena is starting to grow on me.

>>3425087
You didn't like Alena before? She's great, especially in battle. Her crits are amazing, and you don't need to buy her any weapons after chapter 2.

>>3425095
I did, I'm just liking her even more.

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>>3425087
She's perfect.

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>>3424859
Play the NES version, it's much better and doesn't ruin the game with a stupid personality system or overpowered items. The female merchant is literally Bulma in the NES version, while the remakes make her hair pink. She's really cute.

>>3424914
>every sprite is the same guy wearing a different wig

>>3424887
>>3424893
>>3424905
>>3424914
>>3424948

The problem is that people buy it, literally. If fans of FF wouldn't buy literally every FF remake then this wouldn't be a problem, but FF fans are shitters that want everything remade instead of new games, DQ fans are like this too but not nearly as bad, just buying everything DQ.

>>3425107

I would play the NES version but I just don't know if I could take the graphics, I'm enjoying the beauty of the SNES version too much, but at the same time, it feels way, way too easy.

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>>3425087
She always makes my party. Its not even a question.

Delicious tomboy princess whats not to like?

>>3425107
Bulma is shit. She is literal garbage. Fucking trash. The phrase "your waifu a shit" has never been more true. She is a fucking worthless character that Toriyama drew just so he could use her as a cumrag and then immediately forget about her just like Launch. To cement just how worthless she is, she dates Yamcha and then fucks and marries Vegeta right after he becomes irrelevant to the story. Not by any stretch of the imagination was Bulma ever endearing, complex, tolerable, or worth posting in every single one of these threads. I gave up my female merchant in order to build the pioneer town just so she could rot in jail. Fuck that bitch.

>>3425109
Have you played it, though? It's really easy and most dungeons become forgettable as a result, but maybe you like that sort of difficulty. If you are sure you don't like that, play the NES version.

I don't see what's the problem with the graphics. I played the remake first (didn't really like it) and then played the original. I still like it a lot more. Once you get used to the graphics, they grow on you and you end up liking them. Their simplicity is really charming.

>>3425120
>I gave up my female merchant in order to build the pioneer town just so she could rot in jail. Fuck that bitch.
You know that she becomes a MAN if you do that in the NES version, right? She's not a bitch anymore, she's a fat hairy dude.

I would never give her up, though. I made another merchant, named him Mario and let him rot in jail. Bulma is basically a mediocre soldier with worse equips, but she still has a lot of HP and is really cute and slutty. There is literally no reason to choose the female warrior over her.

>>3425120
wasn't Bulma useful on Namek? I remember her piloting a sub to fetch a dragonball from a lake. Besides, her pussy was good enough to keep the prince of Saiyajins around, AND she popped out Trunks. I think you're being way too critical.

>>3425123

ughhhhhhhhhh fine, I'll restart for the second time, first I started with GBC, too easy looked terrible, then SFC, now NES.

>>3425120
I hated how Vegeta took her virginity (I doubt she ever let Yamcha fuck her). That edgy asshole didn't deserve to fuck Bulma.

On the other hand, she is just like a real life girl. She totally cucked Yamcha. That's kind of hot.

>>3425130
I recommend choosing a female fighter. Cutest girl in the game and also the strongest character.

>>3425127
>You know that she becomes a MAN if you do that in the NES version, right? She's not a bitch anymore, she's a fat hairy dude.
Of course I do. That's why it's an even better fate.

>>3425127
>you can never save Mario
>he will die in jail
Why live?

>>3425132
that's the thing. she's cute, and if you can get past her temperamental brattiness she's nice to have around, and she cucked the nice guy (Yamcha) in favor of the bro (Vegeta). she's a very believable female character.

>>3425148
Mario could easily escape prison through the pipes.

>>3425149
more like in favor of the asshole

>>3425107
>every toriyama girl with blue hair is bulma

Stop.

>>3425158
Vegeta might be an asshole, but he's a cool asshole.

>>3425149
>Yamcha
>not a bro

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>>3425112
Alena is alright, but she's going nothing on my delicious brown waifu twin princesses :3

>>3425162
I'm not saying he wasn't, he's a bro in the positive sense. you know what I mean.

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>>3425163
They're pretty good too. I roll with an all girl party, it just feels right.

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>>3425153
Not true. I bet you haven't even been spending the required 16 hours a day researching Mario lore. What a fag!

>>3425159
>he never read the early chapters of Dragon Ball
The merchant in DQ3 looks exactly the same as Bulma and wears exactly the same clothes. Her hairstyle is the same too. The only difference is that her hair is pink in the artwork, but it was blue in the actual game.

She is literally Bulma. Have you even seen her artwork? Marle's clothes were slightly different, but the merchant's clothes are the same as Bulma's.

>>3425172
>two girls that look the same are the same person

Chalk it up to a coincidence.

>>3425170
I'm familiar with Mario lore, but I lack in-depth expertise desu.

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>>3425167
The only correct choice.

>>3425173
You were implying that they were just "Toriyama girls with blue hair". You must be blind. The merchant is a Bulma clone.

>>3425087
>that one doujin by Shuten Douji where she is mind controlled and forced to degrade herself for an audience
>that part where they call her "smegma princess" and ridicule her dirty places
>that ending where she is a mindbroken shell of her former self, has hairy armpits and Cristo sees her like that
>Cristo's face
Best girl.

>>3425148
You can in the SNES and GBC versions.

>>3425176
I consider it an easter egg.

>>3425184
I know this is 4chan, but wtf?

>>3425187
I don't really like how the remakes always give you a way to "fix" things. You can revive Rosa, prevent Saro from turning into a mindless monster, revive Ortega, save Mario from his prison sentence... I heard you can get Kiefer back in DQ7, too. I think that stuff cheapens the plot.

>>3425195
Well, except for Mario, that stuff is usually delegated to the post-game, which is usually seen as not canon. I don't have too much of a problem with it in those cases.

>>3425195
I bet if it was the other way around you'd dislike the remakes for taking away the solutions to these problems.

>>3424776
>someone else using FE4 names

Neat

and they're even supposed to be siblings too.

Coulda named yourself Vylon for the full combo.

>>3425202
But it's not the other way around. The games did something good and then the remakes made it worse.

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So... Where can I find that interview where Horii complains about Jami the rapehorse?

>>3425130
go back

SNES has a fun board game minigame, an extra class, and amazing music.

NES isn't even that much harder because of there being bugs that help the player, like the Parrying bug.

Its up to you in the end though

>>3425205
My point is that I perceive your distaste for the changes as less because of the impact of the original was superior and more because they changed something.

>>3425206
Nowhere because it doesn't exist

Is Dragon Quest 7 really that long? I've heard people say it's like 150 hours. Also is it good because I've heard mixed opinions but it still looks cool

>>3425208
A fun board game that gives you broken items, an extra class that is boring to use and looks like crap and super slow versions of every song. You can't say Zoma's theme is better in the remake with a straight face.

I knew about the bug and never took advantage of it. It's not that hard to ignore. I only used it if I was completely fucked and needed to get to a safe place before losing my money. Using it in every turn of every battle isn't realistic because you'll eventually get tired of doing it.

>>3425210
I'm going to keep saying this to everybody, but if this is going to be one of your first Dragon Quest games, stay away. Yes, it really is as long as everyone says, and it is a good game but you should play other entries in the series before VII.

>>3425217
It's not my first, I've played through Dragon Quest III and I've gotten pretty far in VIII.

>>3425220
I think you know what you're in for then. Just be aware that VII is even longer than VIII, and you should be fine.

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>>3425210
If you are the type of player that likes to talk to everyone every time something happens to see if their dialogue changed... yeah, it's long as fuck. I'm 120 hours in and I'm not even done with disc 1. It's really fucking good, though. Every single hour is pure gameplay. It's a DQ game that never seems to end, so play it with a lot of free time, after taking a long break from the series.

If you don't talk to people or explore much, you can beat it in like 80 hours. Most of the dialogue is optional. But playing like that makes the game a lot less enjoyable because you don't become emotionally involved with the stories and the NPCs of each island.

Some people complain about missing shards to advance the plot, but I don't see how the hell anyone could possibly miss a shard. They are really easy to find if you explore the most obvious places in every new town. If you like to throughly explore everything, there is no way you could miss any of the shards.

There is also the rumor that Maribel can run off with a shard and prevent you from advancing the plot, but it's complete bullshit. She gives you every non-equipped item when she temporarily leaves the party.

Why do people who supposedly played the game keep repeating this rumor even though it's clearly false?

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>>3425236
I can't wait to play it....in the remake in about a month.

I really only play mobile games. Know I could play it now on the PSP but I've heard bad things about the PS1 version...

>>3425305
I don't think the remake will be nearly as good as the original. They have removed a lot of stuff from the beginning of the game because impatient people thought it was too long. The translation is clearly going to be shit, but I guess some people like the new style.

Removing the first dungeon is a terrible thing, though. It's an incomprehensible decision. It had a great atmosphere and made the beginning of the game feel truly epic. You are really missing out if you play it for the first time as a watered down remake. You can play the original in the future, but you will already know everything that happens and you won't be able to take the important NPCs seriously because you'll remember the goofy accents they had in the remake.

I wonder how Plus Alpha is going to ruin Pepe. Will he become a Russian, maybe?

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>>3425172
The problem is DB was such a hit that they only paid him to draw the same way forever. Look at stuff like Dr. Slumps and his other earlier work and he got a nice bit of range. Especially with machines. But DB pretty much typecast him with the same art. Well not now since it all goes to a stunt artist to mimic him.

>>3425149
No she's a negative female stereotype byan author with issues with women.

And how dare you compare Yamcha to nice guy scum. Honestly you're probably one yourself

This is a Dragon Quest thread, not a Dragon Ball thread.

>>3425208

yeah don't worry I went back, I tried, I really did, but the game always feels like it's chugging along, like it's a pain in the ass to even move my character, I can't stand the visuals, I actually like the artwork of DQ and don't want a theatre of the mind for it, it's not a roguelike, the music is actually damn good in its original form, but the slowness of it, in every way, lack of battle animations, and lack of a fucking Itadaki Street minigame, I just can't dude.

Here's hoping Dragon Quest XI offers options for players who want a more difficult experience

>>3425525
I was just making a point, I wasn't trying to imply that Yamcha is beta at all, just that Bulma choosing Vegeta over him fits the stereotype.

>>3425612
>Here's hoping Dragon Quest XI offers options for players who want a more difficult experience
Sorry, but Dragon Quest isn't a difficult game franchise. Some games have difficult segments, but only II is considered hard, and for all the wrong reasons. If you want difficulty in a Dragon Quest game, that's what the final boss and post-game are for.

Also, how the fuck did you even find your way to /vr/ in the first place if you can't handle the visuals in an NES game? I went from the DS Dragon Quest IV to the NES Dragon Quest IV just fine. You should keep playing the SNES version of Dragon Quest III though, just because of all the quality of life improvements it makes.

>>3425783
>but only II is considered hard
1 is considered hard

>>3425792
I's just grindy.

>>3425792
I is the epitome of "grind until you win". It's not a hard game. If you're playing the NES version, you just have to have a lot of patience.

Speaking of which, playing through I on the SNES right now. Man, this game is slow. Those music pauses before every single battle are completely unnecessary. Makes me feel like I'm playing a CDi game just waiting for the battle music to load in. Even the original had a transition from the overworld music to the battle music!

How much grinding should I typically expect to be doing in DQ games?

I'm playing DQ1 NES, just got to Rimuldar. I was going to enter the graveyard dungeon in Garinham, but a guide (and I do feel bad about using a guide, but I just wanted to make sure I wasn't completely fucked) recommended I be level 12 while I'm currently only level 7.

I could probably get up a few levels quickly by grinding enemies near Rimuldar, but is that normal? I've not really played older RPGs before so this is all new to me.

>>3425821
Modern Dragon Quest games? None. I swear you will never have to grind unless it's for the final boss or post-game.
Most NES Dragon Quest games? Strap in and hope you're got a lot of free time. Grab some podcasts to make it easier.

Rimuldar is a good place to grind at your level if you can survive the enemies there. Good luck.

>>3425830
Alright, thanks! I'm not too opposed to grinding in this surprisingly. For a 1986 game the battles are really streamlined, if a little boring.

>>3425846
Considering that it's basically the first JRPG ever made, it's very impressive. Don't worry, battles become much more complex in II with multiple monsters and party members. Clearly you'll definitely enjoy it more!

:^)

>>3425857
Enemies running away from you when you're too strong is something that should be in way more games. I can only thing of Earthbound and a few Megaten games that still do it.

The dragon quest series has some of the best doujins I ever busted a nut to.

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>>3425783

I can take the visuals of an NES game, but I've been given a choice, with most games I don't care, but honestly I started with DQVIII years ago and now I'm a bit spoiled, the remake has an atmosphere much closer to what I'm used to for the series.

Also, I know it's not difficult, but it doesn't have to be piss easy either.

Speaking of which, I'm expecting DQXI to be closer to DQVIII from what we've seen, what do you guys think?

>>3425934
Considering that it's going to be developed by Level 5 and that the series is heading in the general direction of VIII, I'd say so. That's not a bad thing since VIII is my favorite. I've been wanting a game like VIII since Dragon Quest IX was announced.

>>3425934
I really want to hear more about this game, will it be at the TGS?

>>3425128
he is being autistic. bulma is the only reason goku decided explored the world. she also helped the team constantly with her inventions.

>>3425434

i checked out dr slumo a while age after reading a lot of db and it blew my mind how much better the artwork and writing was. it's almost as if toriyama never took db seriously which makes it even funnier since it ended up becoming his most recognized work.

>>3425809

>I is the epitome of "grind until you win"

you could say that about any DQ. what makes I so good is the one on one battle system. it gives the enemies enough turns to show off their full potential whilst also make the players turns more important since you only get one. the following games make random encounters boring and irrelevant since each party member is designed to do one only one thing removing any sense of strategy and since monsters come in group they become mere punching bags.

>>3425821

i usually grind until i can afford the latest armor and weapons. never got stuck that way.

>>3425934

xi is shaping up to be the best one in the series. i didn't started with viii but i agree that the atmosphere accomplished changed the way i look at the series. i enjoyed the older games fer being practical and to the point but we already have 7 games like that. i hope xi has voice acting.

>>3425792
NPC tells you literally where to find everything. Where to find the flute, armor, sword, ect. If you mean hard as in the map it's not really that difficult to learn the layout. DQ2 is hard because everything is hidden from you and NPC gives the most vague info like "the crest is in the fire tower!" and it's up to you to just hit Search in every tile. DQ2 and Castlevania 2 are in the same category "We will be like Zelda in let the player figure everything out!" Where you had to do shit like burn every bush to see if there's anything underneath.

I'm ready to fight the Dragonlord. But what about the princess? If I know exactly where Loto's seal is, should I:

>1: Rescue the princess and bring her to the castle as usual
>2: Forget about her and fight the Dragonlord without ever rescuing her.
>3: Carry her with me all the way until the Dragonlord

>>3426030
>xi is shaping up to be the best one in the series.
>we know literally nothing about it

>>3425206
It exists, but I can't find it anywhere. I swear I read it once.

>>3426305
3. Be a maximum coolguy

whats the best dragon quest for someone has never played a JRPG?

>>3427313
Dragon Quest 1
It was literally the first JRPG
If Japanese kids in the 80s could beat it so can you
Dragon Quest 3 or 8 if ur a wimp

>>3427313
IV or V or VIII

>>3427313

Non /dq/ guy here -

1 is dogshit, at least on NES. You literally have to open the menu any time you want to open a door or go down stairs.

There's a GBC version of DQ1 that might be better.

Dragon Warrior Monsters (GBC) is awesome, but it's more of a pokemon-like game than a JRPG.

https://hitomi.la/reader/942325.html#29

>5 years has passed since the first Dragon Quest
What the fuck is this guy talking about? I thought japs were huge DQ fans.

>>3427328
It's obvious that you have never played the game if you think the menu takes away from the experience. Stop spreading misinformation.

>>3427350

>opening the menu every 10 seconds

it's all part of the glorious superior nippon gaming experience, I wouldn't expect filthy uncultured swine like you to understand

>>3426350
we know that the ps4 version is the best looking DQ to date. we know the 3ds version allows you play in both 3d models or 2d sprites the latter switches back to random encounters. add to this the class system, alchemy, skill trees, maybe even monster recruiting.

>>3427347
japanese years go by different. kind of like the chinese calendar.

>>3427352
just like the developers intended :^) same goes for DQ II

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>>3424893
ios ports mostly look bad, but man did they really nail it with the monsters in FF

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>>3427367

>>3426030
that's another good point, she invented the dragon ball radar device. he was either autistic or had a massive chip on his shoulder.

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Which class did you guys play in DQIX? Back when the game was just out and popular, I was the Paladin and did all the tanking nobody else wanted to do. All the other dudes played Gladiator or Sage, partially because both of those classes were broken.

If that game gets a remake with full online that fixes the grinding issues (along with the obvious engine limitations the DS had) I'd be super happy. While its easy to not care about IX now considering how the servers are died for quests and nobody plays it at all anymore, I had a shitton of fun exploring and exhanging maps with people.

Of course, Square Enix would have no reason to remake that game when they can get all those subscription bucks from DQX. Its a shame people won't even get to experience the frustration of splitting up to explore a grotto, having a guy get ambushed, and then getting into a batte yourself while attempting to save them.

>>3427428
For every console Enix has remade DQ games, they've been released in triplets. SNES/GBC had 1, 2, and 3. DS had 4, 5, and 6. 3DS has 7, 8 and, if they follow the pattern, hopefully 9.

>>3427428
is that game ok to play single player?

>>3427442
Oh shit, you're right.

I think the 3DS is kinda on its way out though, and the focus is on DQXI 3DS. That, and I, II, and III were a trilogy, just like IV, V, and VI. Still would like to see IX remade eventually.

>>3427445
Its not bad, but a lot of the fun for me was in the multiplayer. It was a fantastic game, but I can't say that it'd be nearly as fun to play now with the dead servers and lack of players.

Might as well just wait if there's a remake.

>>3427442
What about IV on Playstation? It didn't have two other remakes to go with it.
V on PS2 also did not have two other remakes to go with it.
1 and 2 were remade again for mobile phones, but 3 was just ported from SFC. That's not a triplet release either.

>>3427927
Shhh, you're crushing his dreams

>>3427359
They said XI will have a class system?

>>3427936
Remaking old games has always been easy money for Enix, no reason to believe they'll ever stop.

>>3428079
Dragon Quest IX is still only 7 years old though. If they did a remake now, it would probably just be a lazy upscaling. Give it some time. They're probably going to remake Caravan Heart next anyway.

Speaking of which, anyone here play Caravan Heart before?

>>3428096
Dragon Quest was only seven years old when it was remade for SNES. Dragon Quest II was only six. I&II was also seven when it was remade for GBC.
III was eight when it was remade for SNES, and that was four when it was remade for GBC.

>>3428114
Dragon Quest IX doesn't need the QOL improvements that those games needed. Dragon Quest IV was 11 when it was first remade and Dragon Quest V was 12. I'm just saying they have other things that they can remake before they get to Dragon Quest IX, since that game is pretty big.

>>3428096
I actually don't want them to remake IX, the game was mediocre and forgettable and I don't want to play it again.
I'd prefer if they went back to IV or III, if the first two are too obsolete and short for the modern market.

>>3428394
>i don't like the game so it shouldn't be remade

But if its remade, they can fix the problems and make it so that you enjoy the game. That's the point of remakes.

>>3427352
>every ten seconds
Not really, they knew the menus were a hassle so they didn't have doors and stairs super often in the dungeons. Yuji Horii is a game design genius, like literal obsessively plays his own games before release and complains about door animations taking too long levels of dedication.

>>3428441
Unless they completely change the story and progression to make it less formulaic and boring, make the main game much longer and harder to give the jobs system and skills a purpose, redesign the sidequests to not make them "kill X monster with Y move" shit, completely change the post game to not be repetitive, grindy beyond common sense and infested by horrible RNG, I have no interest in replaying it.

>>3427428
i tried to re-play it but its not fun alone and most of the good stuff is post game content.

>>3428075
it would be strange if they dropped it but who knows

>>3428124
re-making ix makes no sense since x is basically the same game. speaking of x when does it launch in china?

>>3428590
>re-making ix makes no sense since x is basically the same game.
They're going to do it anyway, it's just a matter of when.

>>3428595
I'm actually shocked they just didn't make a 3DS port because of Streetpass. Hell Streetpass was most likely made because of how popular the idea of passing people with DQ9 was.

>>3428602
That actually is the reason. Nintendo talked about it in an interview and cited how much they liked the idea.

>>3428590
If the game is be more character driven and with a small party like VIII, it could only have skill trees.
We'll see when they actually show something.

How would you rank the regular battle music of Dragon Quest I through IX? Not including boss themes.

If IX's battle music isn't near the bottom of your list, you're wrong

What happened with those questions made to the developers on Miiverse?
Did they answer?

>>3429593
Gamescom isn't until the 19th.

>>3428698
i'd say they all fit the particular tone of each game so it wouldn't make sense to rank them.

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>>3427428
I played it this year and planned to be a paladin from the start. I liked being the literal white knight for the girls.
It was way too late for online play, of course.

>>3427445
I think it was fun. Grindier than other DQ games, though.

>>3428096
I'm going to play Caravan Heart after Monsters 2.

>>3428096
>anyone here play Caravan Heart before?
I just finished a playthrough of it a few weeks back.

>>3424776
Didn't know other people used Fire Emblem names!
In my DQIII playthrough I named my party Anna (Merchant), Lissa (Cleric), and Lyn (Fighter)
Named the hero after myself.

>>3429931
>Named the hero after myself
Autism Speaks ladies and gentlemen.

>>3429942
Who doesn't name the hero in RPGs after themselves?

>>3429945
default name always, unless there is no default.

>>3429945
People above the age of 12?

>>3424776
>Fire Emblem names
>776
meme magic

>>3429942
>>3429949
>>3429951
they're called role-playing games.
you're supposed to immerse yourself in the world and feel like you're there.

>>3429949
Dragon Quest heroes never have a default, numbskull, especially in III and IX.

>>3429954
I guess the default in III could be Loto/Roto/Erdrick
But I don't see what's wrong with naming the hero after yourself.

>>3429953
>muh immersion
I don't need to name the character after myself to immerse myself in the game. If anything, naming my character after myself actually takes me out of the game because it reminds me I'm still playing a game.

>>3429962
Loto/Roto/Erdrick is a title, not a name.

>>3429979
oh yeah

>>3429795
Nice team

>>3429931
I did the same for DQIII a few threads back.

>>3429952
didn't even notice

>>3425120
Nigga, you mad as hell.

And also correct.

>>3429953
>immerse yourself in the world and feel like you're there
Just like the Wii motion controls, right? That stuff is the opposite of immersive. Having to move your body reminds you of the fact that you are playing a game.

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>>3429942
Silent protagonist I always name them after myself.

>>3424773
I'm pretty sure that forcing your daughter to rape her brother is a crime.

>>3430403
Not in Japan.

>>3430403
Those kisses are from Deborah, notice the lipstick.

Never played a DQ game. Is the Android remakes any good?

>>3430547
They're extremely solid/well made remakes, with a nice art style. The massive downside with them is that they decided to stretch the graphics to fill the screen, rather than expanding your view distance. This wrecks an otherwise nice art style by making it look janky af.

They also only work in vertical mode, but it's pretty decent to play one-handed. Despite the gross graphical issue I think they're a hundred times better than the mobile Final Fantasy remakes.

As for if you should play a phone one first idk, because I'm pretty new to the series. If you have an Android phone you might be better off emulating a well regarded game in the series such as IV.

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>>3425326
I'm in the camp where I don't mind the accents, to be honest.
Important people can be from a place thats not local and sound different but still BE serious, even if they sound a little funny.

Then again growing up I legit had a Russian friend and a French friend with English as their second language, so I'm biased.

>Hero doesn't have a default/canon/manga name

>>3429795

>Sizzling bikini bottoms

its always the quiet ones

>>3429945
i always name myself master. it makes it all the more fun when an npc or boss tries to talk shit.

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>finally completed a "Debra" run in DQV, thus securing a file for all the wives
>replayed through 6 and unlocked all the extra characters and upgraded everyone's jobs to MAX
>replayed 4
>got a rough half way into DQ7 before I had to start working

Fuck, I love this series.
I need the 3DS port of DQ7 to come out soon.

>>3425326
>They have removed a lot of stuff from the beginning of the game because impatient people thought it was too long.

The opening crawl of that game has no real right to be that long, you can attempt to speed through it, but it'll still take the better part of a hour to try and rush it, even with a guide.

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>>3424773
>best girl

Of fucking course!

I love how her apparently verbal abuses, are twisted jokes. But you can only discover that, if you talk with her a lot of times.

She's strong, really loves, and I'm pretty sure that she's a real slut in bed.

does six have the most unforgiving starting area? i had to run from most battles and always carry a bunch medicinal herbs just to reach castle. and buying the boomerang is a must since every random encounter has at least 5 monsters that need 2 hits each and take 4 health every attack. a bit of an overkill imo.

>>3430810
Why so impatient? That part of the game is just as enjoyable as the rest. Why not enjoy it while it lasts instead of rushing through it to get to the "good" part?

>>3431274
What version are you playing?

Started playing GBC version of DW1 today, finished it a few minutes ago. That was short. Fun game. I wonder how the series will evolve as I progress through the games.

>>3431872
Dragon Quest basically becomes a whole new series once you get to IV. It also gets much much longer.

>>3431597
>Why so impatient?

Every single game in the entire franchise, prior and since, have always started quick. Always a quick piece of set up and off you go. Dragon Quest 7 has a fetch quest and a puzzle dungeon before you get to your first battle.

I get what it is and how much it sets up that game in general, but to deny it's a slog and a shock compared to the rest is naive.

>>3432009
>before you get to your first battle
And it takes 45 hours to unlock Dharma. What's your point? I see the battles as just another thing to be enjoyed, not the most important part of the game.

The dialogue and exploration are there from the beginning. I don't consider the first battle "the true start of the game" or "the end of the prologue" or anything like that. The game is fine without battles and is also fine without access to the class system.

I really don't miss the battles when I play through the beginning of the game. It usually takes me around 4-5 hours to fight the first slime and I enjoy every minute of it.

I swear that the SNES version of Dragon Quest II is nearly as difficult as the NES version. I'm at the Cave of Rhone and the enemies give around 200-400 exp when I need 8k to level up. Did they even try to balance this game?

>>3431603
original version. once you get the boomerang its normal but by then you already traveled to the festival town and visited the parallel world. all of that with just a club. if you buy anything besides the boomerang with the money you get from selling the village goods grinding becomes 10 times slower.

>>3432180
>>3431872

reminder that you should drop ii right after getting the boat since the developers admitted in an interview nobody had bothered finishing the game at the time of release so that becomes the unofficial ending.

>>3432378
Yeah, the beginning of the game can be pretty harsh. But the difficulty becomes very rewarding later in the game, so you did well in choosing the original version.

>>3432384
>a game can't be good unless the final product is what the developers intended
Nope. They didn't want the game to be so hard, but that's actually one of its most enjoyable aspects.

>"Due to a lack of cartridge space, many ideas were abandoned during development, such as an alternate ending that the Lorasia Prince is killed by the Prince of Cannock's sister if he dies in the final battle."

that's hilarious

>>3432389
>Dragon Quest II
>good or enjoyable
The fuck are you smoking? The battle in the sea cave against the two Hell Messengers in the sea cave is a battle literally based on luck. There's no "strategy", you just have to hope they don't both use fire spells to wipe out your party before you get a chance to attack. There's a huge difference between hard and unfair. At the point where I am in the game, metal hunters and rotted corpses do 3-10 damage while killer tigers do 32-40. And the killer tigers usually come in threes. While my characters are around 80-100 hp. You would expect that they would change shit like this in a remake because it's obviously fucking broken, but nope. Looks like I'm just going to have to grind a ton if I even want a chance of surviving to Rhone.

>>3432681

I played DQ2 on iOS recently and didn't have any trouble like what you're describing. Maybe they've balanced it?

>>3432710
I got past the Cave of Rhone and now the enemies give 1000+ exp in Rhone. If you jump from 400 exp to 1000 after one area, there's a problem with your balancing. Haven't played the iOS version.

>>3432710
Heard the iOS did change a lot of the stats of the enemies plus up your party stats. Also having the sparkle on the ground is a godsend. It really is the best version to play DQ2.

>>3432438
Funny how people hate him because of how useless he is in the NES game. I wonder how much different people's opinion would change if that actually happened.

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Anyone else thinks that Dragon Quest Go would be a successful game, at least in Japan?

>>3433104
Go works only because it's Pokemon. The idea of going out in the world and catching those creatures has been built into the game since day one. Also Pokemon is a game about being social and going out which works in it's favor too. There is no other game series that I can think of that Go would work with.

>>3433108
What about a Dragon Quest Monsters Go

>>3433104
I hope not. Dragon Quest Builders is already pushing it for me.

>>3433109
Maybe but I still don't see it happening. Pokemon as a series is all about going out and being social in the real world. People seem to forget that about Pokemon. They just see it as the same type of yearly thing as CoD and sport series. But it's really is a game that does things on it's own. And Go just happen to work well with that. Most of the DQ games are games you play on your own. DQ9 and 10 are really the only major one that involve working with others. Even the Monster/Joker series doesn't involve being that social.

>>3433108
lol bullshit
Any rpg type game involving addicting stuff like leveling up, geting better equipment and making your bunch of pixels more powerful would be successful. Add a well known franchise to it and win.

>>3431274
Started playing through 6 SFC, and I can say while it's still not particularly easy, it's way better than II where you don't even get a healing spell until you get your second party member.

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>>3424893
G A Y B O I S

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Well guys, I don't know if it was already confirmed, but... Now it is.

We can enjoy, one more time, the GLORIOUS accents in Dragon Quest VII.

It's from a spanish website, so at least accents confirmed to spanish. But I don't think that this gonna be only in spanish...

I'm going to buy and enjoy it anyway, but... Fuck my life

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>>3431217
Nah, she's the one that refuses to sleep with you on your wedding night, and that dies a virgin if you don't marry her. Despite her appearence, she's shy and delicate.
The real slut is her sister.

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>>3435391
at least the accents match spanish locations instead of being american's idea of how russians sound translated into spanish like iv.

i wonder if this means 8 will receive spanish voice acting.

>yfw jessica in spanish

>>3424878
I never had a problem with the DQ IV-VI mobile releases, they're a hell of a lot better than the rest of Square's iffy shit.

>>3435391
>Orka is now "Pagafantarías"
I can't believe this shit. It's so fucking stupid and in-your-face, it makes everything feel like a joke. It's 10 times worse than in English. I feel sorry for all the cucks that will play this version without touching the original, especially the Spaniards that think they are getting an accurate translation because they don't know any better.

No wonder nobody likes this series in the west. Every localization is a fucking joke.

>>3435391
>I'm going to buy and enjoy it
Seriously? I wouldn't waste my time with this shit. It would only ruin DQ7 for me. I still can't stop thinking of Alena as a dumbass russian who speaks in broken English, even after playing the original a couple of times.

I don't really give a shit about most of these remakes. They cut too much stuff and ruin the pacing trying to appeal to casuals. I just feel sad because a lot of people will play this remake instead of the original and their experience will be tainted by all this crap. Even if they enjoy it, they will just remember it as a decent RPG that tries way too hard to be funny. This game was supposed to be a masterpiece, not some cheap comedy. They will never know what it feels like to play the real DQ7 for the first time.

>>3435440
I think I'd honestly rather have NoA Treehouse translate VII. Sure they like to cram some shitty meme jokes in here and there, but at least you're getting an accurate translation otherwise.

>>3435450
>I don't really give a shit about most of these remakes. They cut too much stuff

Like what? Usually I hear people complaining that they added too much, not that they removed anything.

>>3435451
I'm pretty sure Treehouse is doing it, aren't they?

>>3435391
http://www.elotrolado.net/hilo_ho-dragon-quest-vii-fragmentos-de-un-mundo-olvidado_1834823_s1120

>Parece que vuelven los dialectos en las distintas zonas del mundos, me parece bien porque ya ocurría en la versión japonesa
Fuck this rumor, seriously. The Japanese versions are not full of fucking accents, where did this shit even come from?

>>3435428
At least the Scottish kinda fit.

>>3435450
Dragon Quest remakes aren't really ones to remove things. Change them drastically sure, but not remove. They simplified the beginning and I think that was the only thing.

I'm still not sure about their take on the class system though.

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>>3435454
Don't fucking remind me that shit, seriously...

Awful translations due shitty accents, are bad. People beleving that the accents are canon in Japan, and defending that bullshit is worst.

I feel bad for the people that can't understand the game in english, and must swallow all that crappy jokes

>>3435440
>Orka is now "Pagafantarías"
Seriously... Someone must die for that abomination.

>>3435452
They removed monster taming from DQVI and an entire dungeon from DQVII.

The ruins in Estard are now small and pathetic. They don't feel grand or mysterious anymore. It's just a little puzzle and that's it. They completely ruined the sense of discovery and the mysterious atmosphere of that part of the game.

You were supposed to spend three hours getting to know everyone in Estard (I still remember every single person in the town), playing around with Maribel, exploring with Kiefer, solving the mystery of the ruins and doing a whole bunch of puzzles. It was great because it made you feel like you had really been living there forever, which made the appearance of new islands really exciting.

They added some fairy guy that acts as a tutorial in the ruins. This changes the mood too. In the original game, you felt like you were solving the mystery of a forgotten temple. And even after saving one of the islands, nobody explained to the characters or the player what happened or what exactly they had done, they had to figure it out on their own.

The new games sacrifice a lot of good things just to appeal to the casual audience. The first three hours of the game were one of the most enjoyable parts of the game, there was no need to cut most of that stuff. It's like skipping the first 50 pages of a book and just reading a summary on the internet. It feels rushed and doesn't have any impact. Disgusting.

They also removed party chat in battle. It's not that important, but it was insanely detailed, they reacted to absolutely everything. They even changed their reactions to some things as you advanced in the game. It helped develop Maribel's character.

I sure hope that Dragon Quest XI has a black party member. I think the localizations could definitely use some ebonics!

>>3435495
>They removed monster taming from DQVI
Replaced with the recruitable slimes characters...
But then you bash the removal of party chat in battle, after downplaying the addition of party chat in the remakes of IV, V and VI, so I guess there's no point in discussing with you.
You're dishonest and will always twist facts to corroborate your narrative.

>>3435391
http://www.3djuegos.com/juegos/avances/14999/4721/0/dragon-quest-vii-fragmentos-de-un-mundo-olvidado/

Maribel is now Mariel, even though Maribel (Maria Isabel) is a common Spanish name.

And Aira is now MOURA. What the fuck? At least they didn't go with the DQIX names (Kiefer as Cleómenes and Maribel as GORGO), but this is still pretty shitty.

I guess I'm not playing the remake after all. I'll just replay the original using only monster classes or something.

>>3435529
>Kiefer as Cleómenes and Maribel as GORGO
Ahahahah

>>3435518
How am I dishonest? I'm not "trying" to bash the remakes, I'm bashing them because they deserve it.

>you bash the removal of party chat in battle
They removed something from the original game for no reason. How can anyone be fine with that?

>after downplaying the addition of party chat in the remakes
It's a really nice addition, but if the rest of the game is piss easy, looks like crap compared to the original and the localization doesn't have any respect for the original script... I don't think it's worth playing just for party chat.

You make it sound like the ADDITION of a feature that the original games didn't even need is enough to make the remakes the definitive versions of those games, even though everything else about them is either worse or just plain bad. Of course I'm downplaying the addition of party chat. Stop recommending people to play the fucking Android port of DQ4 just because you can talk to your party members and read their stupid accents. It's not worth it if the controls damage the experience and the translation is garbage.

I don't see how I'm "twisting the facts". They removed a lot of shit in this remake. They added something nice in the others while fucking up everything else. How is any of that acceptable? At least be honest and let people decide by themselves, instead of acting like the remakes are always better.

>>3435550
But party chat isn't the only addition in the remakes, and you know it.
VI is mostly unchanged but IV and V have plenty of extra content and gameplay improvements.
But again, you'll say it's not worthy if the games have accents, or if you need to grind less, and you'll pretend that having a 3 men party or not being able to control your party members make the games better, so whatever.
Both the originals and the remakes have pros and cons, and you posting the same things in every thread and being overly aggressive won't change anyone's mind.

>>3435557
>extra content
>gameplay improvements
The main game is all that matters. Who cares about bonus dungeons or modern menus if the main adventure has been ruined?

>>3435574
You just keep proving my point.

Why is everyone upset about the accents? They don't bother me at all. How inaccurate is what they're saying regardless of the accent? Either way I'm going to buy the remake of VII and I will probably enjoy playing it. And fuck, I might even laugh at one of the dumb jokes. And no amount of autism will stop me.

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>>3435529
>Maribel is now Marie
>And Aira is now MOURA
>DQIX names (Kiefer as Cleómenes and Maribel as GORGO)

>>3435596
>And no amount of autism will stop me.
Actually, I think it's the amount of autism that's propelling you to play this shit.

>>3435596
One of the bad things about accents, is that you are not playing the game that the original dev team made.

You are playing a modified version, in one of the worst ways possible: "I can improve the original script, adding nice jokes, and some funny accents"

>>3435596
You probably want to play it so bad that you feel the need to defend all that crap. Give up and admit that the new translations are horrendous. And IV's isn't even the worst.

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>>3424773

>>3435624
>>3435615
>>3435609
>>3435574
>>3435550
>>3435495
>>3435450
I wish this faggot would leave.

>>3435881
he goes too far but i agree on him about the re-makes particularly the zenith trilogy. still theres no need to bring it up every thread.

>>3435881
Wish harder lmao.

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>>3435881
Sorry to break it to you, but the new translations are garbage and you should feel bad about defending them. There's more than one person who thinks this. I think the remake itself will be fine but the English script is sure to be fucking atrocious.

>>3435946
You can use photoshop, good for you.

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>>3435946
>>3435972

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that he's using photoshop. Like me.

Because EVERYONE loves the accents.

If you think that someone that hates the translations, must be the same guy that hates the remakes... Clearly, you are an idiot, like the remakes-hater.

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>>3435946
really makes (you) think

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>>3436016
>>3436014
>>3435972
>>3435946
I don't know what's real anymore

Christ, does every Dragon Quest thread have to devolve into complaining about accents and localization?

Yes a sizable sect of fans do not like the translations, but a good portion either don't care or enjoy the puns etc.

Don't play the remakes of you don't like them. Don't bust a vein in your forehead if someone else likes the remake.

Many changes can be argued as awful or nonsensical, but I swear many people are so autistic about it that they will fight endlessly over an enemy called "angry slug" being changed to "evil slug" just because it isn't the original translation.

I couldn't care less if a town was changed from Tomidak to Karsville.

Gameplay is the focus and it is still the same. Import the jap versions or stick with the original games of the remakes make you twitch so much

>>3436056
Three months or so ago the threads were fine.
Only recently did the start to devolve.

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Anti-remake fag is annoying but at least he's not as bad as that autist popping up on /v/ once in a while that calls DQV DS shit because its extra content it's "not canon".
I hope he doesn't find his way here.

>>3435495
I think you listed the only two cases of removal across all the remakes

>>3436083
Why can't I just have all three
fuck monogamy

>>3435615
Do you play the originals in Japanese? Any translation will be different regardless of accents. No ones answered my question. Besides the accenrs how accurate is the translation?

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boy what a fucking drag dqiv has been. you basically have to run from every random encounter if you want to have any mp left by the time you reach the boss and even when you choose to fight every battle takes at least 4 turns with no room for variation or strategy. to make matters worst the bosses themselves arent even strong. i haven't needed to upgrade my armor since muriel joined the party and only grinded a couple of levels so that she learned healmore. currently at the lava dungeon after you borrow the boat.

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>>3436574
IV = 4
VI = 6

Learn the difference, dear american.

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>>3436574
>that filter

>>3436280
Localization aside, the actual translation is totally fine.

>>3436596
my bad

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>>3436614
But Anon, that is totally how the game was meant to be seen, as intended by the developers!

>>3436643
>as intended by the developers!

is this the new meme?

>>3436653
It's fairly old at this point.

>>3435495
Horii okayed the ruin truncation. Are you saying you know better than Horii when it comes to the design of the games?

>>3436574
> you basically have to run from every random encounter if you want to have any mp left by the time you reach the boss and even when you choose to fight every battle takes at least 4 turns with no room for variation or strategy.

Congratulations, if you're complaining about this, this must be your first Dragon Quest game!

>>3436754
played them all except 7 and 8. last time i dropped 6 was right before recruiting terry. it precisely because i have played the others that i can see its short comings. any other dq aside from 2 has tight quick combat. 3 particular makes random encounters feel satisfying and engaging. but 6 just like 2 misses hard in the gameplay department which inevitably affects the over all pacing.

>>3436625
Well shit nigger I'm goig to enjoy the fuck out of it.

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>>3436189
As an actual polygmist, it is the shit. Someone like Debra wouldn't go for it though. Bianca would love you enough and is adventurous enough. Nera would need constant validation but a couple of nights with Hero and Bianca and she'd be unable to imagine her life without it.

>>3425996
>Level 5 make pretty decent RPGs
>Hear about them making DQIX
>Get mad hyped
>tfw it's mediocre as fuck

>>3436574
Why don't you use Higan instead of whatever shit emulator you are using now?

>>3436693
Horii is a great game designer, but he's also a bit of a jew.

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>>3437314
>Higan

>>3437323
it's objectively the best snes emulator no matter how much you hate byuu

>>3424773
>you will never be a cute shota with a hot titty mom that kisses you suggestively and adores you and a cute little sister that also adores you in a rad fantasy town where there's magic and shit

>>3437352
>being a shota
>wasting your time with old hags
You should be making out with your loli sister and her friends. If you waste your chance, you will regret it and become a pedo.

DQ4: Anyone agree that Marquis De Leon/Kingleo is complete bullshit? You literally have to grind until priest dude learns Kabuff, and if you choose not to use him, grind into the fucking 20s. "DQ has no grinding," indeed.

>>3437639
There are lots of other things you can do before fighting Keeleon. You are not supposed to fight him so early.

>>3437639
No? If I can beat him in the Famicom version with no control over my party members and stupid AI that keeps casting debuffs that never work with literally no grinding, you can too.
If you were talking about the second fight with Balzaak, I might agree with you

>>3437645
Like visiting everywhere else on the map? Did that, still can't touch him without Kabuffing constantly.

>>3437647
Sounds like Hell on Earth.

God 4 is terrible in the grinding department.

>>3437652
Are you playing the DS version? If so, that's pretty funny, considering that we have a few people here that love to complain that the DS remake is way too easy.

Anyone who would honestly tell you that Dragon Quest has no grinding at all is a fucking idiot, so I'm not sure where you heard that from. 4 is in the middle ground in terms of grinding where 1-3 are all about grinding while 5 through the rest basically just get rid of the grinding altogether. Trust me, grinding in 4 is like a dream compared to the earlier games. At least you're not grinding 10 levels in Dragon Quest III just so Baramos doesn't slaughter your entire party with his breath attacks. And you're not grinding in Rhone just so the enemies don't wipe out your entire party as soon as you step out of the shrine.

If you really feel like you need to grind for this, and you don't really have anything else to do, just grab a podcast or a good album, sit down for a while, and grind.

>>3437674
>If you really feel like you need to grind for this, and you don't really have anything else to do, just grab a podcast or a good album, sit down for a while, and grind.
That's what I have been doing. I just think it's stupid that you can't choose your party; you literally NEED to use Kiryl/Cristo for his Kabuff so that his physical attacks don't slaughter you. And even then, his ice breath attack can just push your shit in.

I don't know why this is so controversial. I just think it's a poorly balanced fight.

I never knew just how terrible the US localizations of Nintendo games were. I thought it was exclusive to the recent Fire Emblem games, but seems like the entire local team is a bunch of fuck ups.

How badly are Euro localizations affected? Cause I was planning to get the DS remakes one of these days.

>>3437708
The Euro localizations are based on the American ones. People here actually believe that the Japanese versions have accents and puns in every name, even though that's something Plus Alpha made up. It's awful.

>>3437686
If you were playing the original game, you wouldn't be such a pussy this far into the game. There are lots of things you can do to make the fight easier, not just buffing your defense.

>>3437724
Please explain how you can possibly survive without Kabuff, and without grinding. I'm endlessly curious.

>>3437708
>people still acting like FE games are having shit localizations

jesus i know this is dragon quest thread but so many people just parrot this shit

The localization isn't good, but its not completely terrible either. Most of the plot and dialogue issues weren't caused in translation and there's a few areas made better.

that being said it was bleh localization overall and took way too fucking long, although compared to DQVII 3DS, 8 months is nothing.

>>3437765
>Most of the plot and dialogue issues weren't caused in translation
You're right, because in some cases they just ignored the source material and wrote their own shit. Maybe you should consider that wanting an accurate translation that's not filled with pop culture memes isn't a fucking overreaction. You have lowered your standards so far that you can somehow justify having a game butchered by localizers as long as you can play it in English.

>>3437784
>pop culture memes

that was more awakening than fates

see this is what i'm talking about.

>>3437708
We had some kind of "golden age" of translations in Europe. A time where our games are translated directly from the japanese version...

That era was, from some random DS games (and no, Dragon Quest are not included), to the first 3 years of the 3DS.

Yes, only 4 years, more or less


About DQ accents, for me the worst thing are not the accents himself, nor the people can really like them (I don't care if someone has shitty taste from my point of view. At least, he's buying the game)...
when the people are TOTALLY SURE that are even in the japanese version, and when they play a fan-translated game, they say that "this didn't feel like Dragon Quest".

Thanks, fucking Plus Alpha morons. THANKS.

>>3436832

The fuck are you talking about? my hero and carve are ripping through random encounters like there's no tomorrow. I'm flying through this faster than any of the others so far.

I'm playing the iOS version so maybe they rebalanced for commuting plebs like me

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Making Hargon completely immune to magic in a game where 2 of your 3 party members are weak spellcasters is a really dickish thing to do.

I already grinded from level 20 to level 30 in Rhone today to get to this point, now I think I'm going to have to grind from level 30 to level 40 to beat Malroth. Fun!

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>>3437262
thats because ix basically just a prototype for x hell they even had real time combat for while but the backlash forced them to go back into turn based.

>>3437314
its not a screen shot. im playing the snes fan translation on a cfw 3ds

>>3437686
>I just think it's a poorly balanced fight.

just like the developers intended :^)

>>3438139
>blond

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>>3438236
Terra has blonde or green hair?

>>3437686
You're not forced to go right to him after getting the boat, you know?
You can explore the world, start some sidequests, gather info about the zenithian equipment etc.
That's what I did, and by the time I had enough and I went to kill him, I didn't have any problem.

Wasn't that Miiverse thing with the developers scheduled for today?

>>3438298
Found it.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D4wG8JliL-k
Too bad I can't watch it now. What did they ask?

>>3438361

q1- how did you decided what to change and what to keep from the original?

a1- encourage players to explore the different classes. a guide that lets you know what you were doing last time you saved so you dont forget since its a very long game.

q2- how long does it take to finish the main story?

a2- originally it took around 100 hours of gameplay but we added fragment detector to reduce unnecessary repetitive work. now its about 70 to 80 hours

q3- which class was the funniest to design and program?

a3- the shepherd

q4- whats your favorite vocation?

a3- shepherd

q5- favorite monster?

a3- some vegetable monster i cant make out what he said


and thats it. nothing ground breaking

>>3438523
So nothing about the OST or other games.
Pointless.

>>3438523
Disappointing.

>>3438523
Five softball questions about obvious things we already knew and two of them are almost the exact same question.

Hope you guys weren't getting your hopes up.

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so which DQ character do you identify with the most? pic related for me. made him the protagonist in ix too.

>>3438291
I already said that I've visited every part of the map. You can literally GET some of the Zenithian equips at this point, but that's moot. If you don't use Kabuff, you lose.

>>3438236
>just like the developers intended :^)
At least you're being honest.

>>3439328
Intelligent, nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humor?

>>3439339
Then why didn't I lose

are there any runes in dragon quest iv?

>>3439710
What do you mean by runes? Considering that I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and I've beaten the game three times, I'm going to say no.

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>>3439717
What, you don't know what runes are?
They're basically magic scribblings. Sometimes they're made to be translatable.
Basically the reason I'm asking is because a friend stumbled upon a certain post in the Magic the Gathering subreddit stating that a card uses the runic alphabet from Dragon Quest 4 and that the runes used translated to "Fuck you" and he has asked me if I could confirm or deny.

I don't know anything about Magic and I don't recall seeing runes in either version of DQ4, but I thought I'd ask here anyhow in case anyone more familiar with the games might know.

Pic related, thread related: https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/4yicpp/cards_with_text_in_the_art/d6o9cvm

>>3439710
The original only uses kana.

>>3439732
Of course I know what runes are! It's just that I can't think of a single place where runes come into play in Dragon Quest IV. I think that post might be total bullshit, but your friend might want to ask the guy on the subreddit about it.

>>3439734
Heh

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>>3435529
>GORGO
That name sounds familiar!

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>Command?

>>3438531

The OST, I think that is due some license issues.

Other games... Don't expect anything, when the 3DS has less than a year of "life".
Too much games pending, and not short games...

>>3439902
RUNNNN!

>>3439906
There's people saying that the OST was changed because the japanese weren't pleased with the orchestal tracks being ripped straight from the suite and not looping properly.

>>3439906
As for the games, considering that Federation Force (lol) was the last first party game scheduled for the 3DS, bringing them would be a good idea to keep it on life support some more. And Joker 3 isn't even 6 months old.

>>3439339
>You can literally GET some of the Zenithian equips at this point
Technically yes, but the cave with the armour is much much harder than the lion boss.
Are you telling me that you were able to do one but not the other?

>>3427367
>>3427374
Those are legit

>>3440143
I'd like to see him try to get the liquid metal sword and the Zenithian armor before he even gets Ragnar.

>>3438139
>I already grinded from level 20 to level 30 in Rhone today
>I'm going to have to grind from level 30 to level 40 to beat Malroth
You've got to be kidding. What version are you playing?

The original game was perfectly beatable around level 26. Hell, the princess could't even go past level 30. I assume you are playing a modern version that is even easier. How the fuck could you have problems with the final boss at level 30?

>>3440238
Yeah, funny thing about that. I assumed I'd have to grind more, but then I went back into the Cave of Rhone to get Loto's Armor and the Lightning Sword, and then I beat the final boss on my first try after that. So I did beat him at level 30 actually. Happened about an hour ago. Played through the SNES version.

>>3440170
Don't you need the third key for the liquid metal sword?

>>3440246
You didn't need to grind to level 30, though. I think that's overkill. If you have shields of strength for everyone and don't ignore status spells, the final boss isn't that hard.

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>>3439954
I'm only trying to use their logic, based on the relase dates of DQ VII and DQ VIII.

Of course, with some little effort, they can still translate all the fucking Dragon Quest games, make some marketing and win a lof of money.

Maybe, if DQ VII sells a lot, they can think to give us more games... But I preffer to asume, that Square-Enix are still a bunch of idiots that only want to block the western success of Dragon Quest.

>>3440413
>wanting DQ to continue in the west with those translations

>>3440449
>not just playing Dragon Quest in the original moonrunes

>>3440449
Kys

>>3440449
So if you know Japanese, what seems to be the issue?

>>3440469
Not him, but I actually do know enough Japanese to play DQ games and I still like to mock the localizations. I doubt there are many other people in this thread who even play Dragon Quest games in Japanese.

>>3440449
>wanting good localizations
>not having stockholm syndrome
How can you call yourself a DQ fan?! Shame on you!

>>3440449
>>3440516
Simmer doon an' listen noo.

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>>3440520
>The king wishes to speak with you all now
>Ai simmer doewn yoo lot ave had noone o thaa listen well nae eh? ahh.
How did Ragnar not burst out laughing?

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>>3440474
So you waste time ruining good discussion all because you think you're hot shit being able to read hiragana and katakana.

Why do you and the handful of others come to these threads on a daily basis to remind us of the obvious?
>Don't belive Enix's lies! DQ's recent translations had liberties taken on them!
>This isn't the tone my glorious Nippon director envisioned!
>How dare they change names and spells and remove Japanese onomatopoeias!

You all spend more time whining about how changes were made than you actually do playing the fucking games. It astounds me to no end that you seem aware of fan translations but insist on never touching titles as long as these localizations stay the course.

Guess what? You will never be Square Enix's target audience. Ever.

You aren't a Japanese citizen, so your input on the game itself will never be a factor. It doesn't matter if you buy the original version of the game, your two cents and overall experience means fuckall to those xenophobic people.

You don't like any deviation from the script or a little creative freedom, and most others here in America don't care or even know. You are just a single person and will never hurt their sales by protesting.

And the sad truth is that you'll still think you're in the right. You'll hate and hate and hate until you go ruining the discussion for everyone. This is one of the few places where you can even find people actively talking about some of their favorite vidya and you being the angry, shitpoting waste of space you are, will always find a way to make people irritated enough to leave and just play the game instead of enjoying it with everyone else here.

You hate the idea that people can like something you don't, so you sabotage everything to make yourself feel smug and superior.

It's not the localizations, or the changes to the soundtracks, or even script edits that are the worst part of Dragon Quest.

It's you being an insufferable fucking prick.

>>3440545
I stopped after reading the first sentence where you said I'm only able to read hiragana and katakana. You do realize that every Dragon Quest game after IV has kanji in it, right?

Anyway, the rest of your post seems like a whole bunch of butthurt, so my advice to you is to stay mad and enjoy eating your Plus Alpha shit.

>>3440545
Nice strawman.

>>3440545
>he wrote a fucking wall
LMAO. This is the reason we keep making fun of the localizations.

>>3439732
I don't think DQIV has runic text in it

>>3440545
>a little creative freedom
Comfirmed for not knowing what he's talking about. No wonder he defends the new translations.

>>3440553
>He wrote a fucking wall
Oh that's right, I forgot localization shitposters can't read English too well since they only know glorious Nipponese.

>>3440545
You tell em.

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>>3440545
Long-winded, but this guy has the right idea.
Why do we waste time arguing when we all love the series our own way?

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>this whole fucking thread right now

>>3440573
I've already got my popcorn ready for when VII comes out in a month. It only gets worse from here.

>>3440570
Because the localizations change the mood of the games so much that they can be considered a different series. It's annoying to discuss the games with fans of the modern western releases if you are a fan of the old translations. The new translations rewrite the entire script and make everything a stupid pun. That's not the true DQ experience.

>>3440584
You're exaggerating

>>3440575
At this point, I just want the localization to be as bad as possible. So bad that even the apologists can't help but groan.

>>3440589
I wish I was.

What if we have two different threads at the same time? One for the Plus Alpha translations and one for the Enix/fan translations.

I think most people would be smart enough to stay the fuck away from the other thread.

>>3440591
Can you give me an example of where the mood is changed that much?

>>3440598
>every NPC and town name is an obvious pun
Isn't that bad enough? It's a joke translation. How the hell is that acceptable?

>>3440609
This is an exaggeration. Where's the pun in Gotha? Pankraz? Aamon? Psaro? Kiryl? I'm just rattling off random names here. There are some that are pun based, but claiming every single town and npc is based on a pun is grossly incorrect.

>>3440617
>listing only important characters and places

>>3440618
That's not what was originally claimed, but I can list off unimportant characters and places too. Eliza. Laurel. Baron's Folly. Parthenia. Briny Lair.

So much for every name being an obvious pun. And none of the important names are pun based, like you pointed out. I'm still waiting for an example of the mood changing so drastically.

>>3440634
You are literally listing all the exceptions. 80% of the names are dumbass puns while the Japanese scripts only had a couple of them in the whole game. The mood changes drastically if the entire game feels like one big joke.

>>3440640
Even if we assume that to be true, you admit the important names are not pun based. Why does it matter if a minor town on the road has a pun based name if all the important stuff isn't?

>>3440661
>Even if we assume that to be true
Play the games again. It's totally true.

>Why does it matter if a minor town on the road has a pun based name
Because the "minor" towns and characters are ironically more important than the "main" ones. Especially in DQ7. If every single one of them is turned into some sort of dumb joke and everyone there as an accent, it alters the mood of the game. Stop defending this crap, it's disgusting.

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>This thread

All part of Nizmo's grand scheme.

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>>3440739
It has begun