SEGA Saturn Emulation

>>3414859
>Will we now finally get out of the SSF closed source dark days and the underwhelming Yabause compatibility?
No.

>>3414912
Not for a long while, anyway

>>3414859
Saturn emulation will remain shit until Steve Snake releases a Saturn emulator.

>>3415414
He doesnt even have the best Genesis emulator though

>>3415438
Yeah, but it took others 10 years to make a better one.

How good is it compared to SSF right now?
Is it based on something?

>>3415583
It's literally 4 days old
What do you think

>>3415583
It's open source and doesn't use hardware acceleration, so I'm going to guess that they just used the MESS code.

>>3415571
Fair enough.

>>3415604
4 days old and still impressive. If more time is put into it, this could be the definitive SS emulator

>>3415849
Of course, but the point is this emulator shows promise, but obviously in such little time it's not going to compete with SSF. Probably not even as good as Yabause either.

>>3416604
From what I've heard it is already feature complete, only needs improvement in timing and some unknown edge cases. Which is more than what Yabause ever will have.

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>>3416727
Too bad I can't get it to work. Mednafen always was such a chore even with MedGui

I'll just wait until it gets to more stable builds or gets a libretro port or something

>>3414859
I thought everyone liked SSF?

>>3416784
The log file clearly states that you are missing your entire damn cd image and the bios file.

>>3418048
No, everyone hates it because it doesn't run on Android.

>>3418081
Just the BIOS, I think. SBI files are for subchannel data.

>>3418081
Nope I have both. And I don't know why it's shitting out that .sbi error since the .cue file never points to it.
I really don't care, just going to wait this get more stable anyway.

>>3414912
Eventually.

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It plays Sonic-R.

>>3422335
This is what happens when you make a Sonic racing game and not give him a car. And people ask "he he why does Sonic need a car?"

>>3418460
That log is a red herring. I had the same problem, it was a BIOS issue. I got them from the emugen wiki and put them in the firmware folder and now it just works.

>>3415438
He does have the best pre-5th gen SEGA-anything emulator. Genesis Plus GX has still a long way to go before supporting everything a Genesis could do. Like 32X games, let alone CD+32X.

And as far as accuracy goes I say it's pretty solid, I can't think of any games that run better on GX. Also has the model 1 filter (but no ladder effect, sadly).

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>>3423327

>>3415438
But fusion is still the best

>>3418048
Its a good emu that plays about 90% of the saturn catalog without issue. But it lacks features, it still needs deamon tools to mount cd images, which is bundled with spyware. And its prone to crashing randomly

>>3423335
>>3418048

No one likes SSF. People tolerate SSF.

It's standard Win32 closed source Japware.

>terrible interface
>crashes randomly
>all documentation in Moon Runes
>closed source
>filled with hacks to make games work
>updates inconsistant
>Does not load isos
>Windows only
>requires external cd mounting programs

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>>3423324
So they nailed this fucking thing on the first try?
I'm not seeing any graphical glitches or anything
Even the transparency is working as it should (not rendering the sprites in the back)

>>3423351

Yabause is open source, so you can learn from it. And there's still Saturn documentns out there. Then past that, the devs could do some legitimate reverse engineering.

Saturn emulation stagnates due to lack of interest, more than anything else.

>>3423351
>So they nailed this fucking thing on the first try?

Recaptcha is just that good. ;)

>>3423351
That thing isn't hard to get right. Even MAME could do it last time I checked.

>>3423340
>terrible interface
Standard windows interface, nothing terrible about it.

>crashes randomly
Works on my machine.

>all documentation in Moon Runes
Why are you even bothering with Saturn games if you don't know Japanese?

>closed source
lel

>filled with hacks to make games work
Nope, the compatibility options there are optional only because of their speed impact. There is no downside to just setting it to max compatibility and leaving it like that, provided your CPU can handle it.

>updates inconsistent
It updates whenever the author works on it, which is the same update cycle that every other emulator has.

>Does not load isos
>requires external cd mounting programs
What's the problem, the extra two clicks are too difficult for you?

>Windows only
What the fuck else would you want to run it on anyway? Android is not fast enough, Linux is a server OS not a gaming one, and if you can afford a Mac you can afford a real Saturn.

Someone check Assault Suits Lyvenos 2. Great Saturn exclusive. All the Youtube vids are shit quality.

>Medanfen N64
>Mednafen dreamcast

One can hope

>>3423593
>What's the problem, the extra two clicks are too difficult for you?
Most if not all the cd mounting programs that support SSF are adware or worse

>>3415414
>>3422541
How long have you been a Steve Snake fanboy, kingofchaos?

>>3415414

Steve Snake doesn't even do anything anymore.

Also Steve Snake sounds like a male pornstar.

>>3414859
Is it in Retroarch? Because ain't nobody gonna use command line emus

>>3424373
Look, I agree he should've just released the source years ago. But Fusion is still the most competent piece of software as of now. Why would I shill a dead emulator? If anything you sound mad that people consider it a valid alternative.

>>3423329
To this day I still don't understand how people consider Guardian Heroes a good game or even a good Beat em up.

>>3424765
>Is it in Retroarch?

Yes.

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>>3415414
>>3424373
>>3424510
>>3424775
>Kega
>good
>accurate

>>3424858
Is that line the inaccuracy?

>>3424858
Never played that game on an actual console, but there are loads of games which display graphical glitches on the real hardware and none in any emulator but Exodus. And I'm not talking about the CRAM dots, that one's not a glitch.

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>>3424938
>there are loads of games which display graphical glitches on the real hardware and none in any emulator but Exodus.

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When I emulated Skyward Sword, it looked, just, like, this.

>>3424945
Try any game that does column scroll on the leftmost part of the screen. Gynoug comes to mind.

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>>3423593

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Meh, only really want to play Nights into Dreams for now, guess I'll just get the PC version if SS emulators aren't great still

>>3423593

On Linux: the superior configuration and integration options make it a awesome platform for emulation setups.

Being open source means others can easily integrate it as they need to in order to work with what they need. ( Ie configuring it from a launcher like RetroArch or Kodi/xbmc)

It also means that if the dev gets hit by a bus people aren't shit out of luck. There is no good reason to keep a emulator closed source unless you are using code you're not supposed to/don't own

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>>3424919
yes
>>3424938
>>3424945
best part is, back then on eidolonn's inn I mentionned that bug to steve snake, he was so fucking confident he went "if it happens on kega it happens on real hw lol"

>>3425343
Where did Steve Snake go?

>>3425070
Just grab the steam release, it has "saturn" mode that makes it basically identical.

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>>3425343
FYI latest GenesisPlusGX displays it fine
>>3425360
I have no idea

>>3425385
>>3425343
Are the buildings light blue or dark blue? :^)

>>3425402
dark blue. Taking accurate pics of CRTs is hard

This may be the most retarded question ever but is there a way to use Mednafen cores without using that shitty front end?

>>3422541
>I can't think of any games that run better on GX.
So, here is one
>>3425385
You can also add Pier Solar, SFT translated rps and a bunch of obscure chinese unlicensed games

>Genesis Plus GX has still a long way to go before supporting everything a Genesis could do. Like 32X games, let alone CD+32X

It's the only thing I could think of actually. Besides, Genesis Plus GX emulates weird controllers (like that Activator shit or this japanese analog controller supported by after burner) and rarely used stuff (like left/right overscan color, 9-bit DAC or S&K / Game Genie lock-on) so it seems to me more close to support "everything a genesis could do" than Kega Fusion. Not that it really matters btw.

>>3425462

Medafen cores are standalone emulators

>>3423593
>Linux is a server OS not a gaming one
>implying the two are mutually exclusive
You're showing your ignorance of how computers work there, little guy

>>3425547
I'm assuming its all ini editing to set settings if used stand alone?

>>3425576

yeah

It's a RetroArch core now as well.

>>3422347
This is what happens when you make a racing game and sonic doesn't race but jog

it has nothing to do with him being in a car or not. that pokemon "racing" game was shit too for the same reason, if you're going to make stuff race on foot or paw or whatever, make them quick at least.

>>3425385
IIRC, he still exists, he's just doing actual job work.

>>3425343
He is pretty over-confident -- there's been a bunch of behavior that's been documented to be different in Fusion than on real HW.

>>3422335
who is playing and why are they so bad

>>3423593
If you install actual Microsoft DLLs (so, go install directx with winetricks, you need XAudio2 in particular), you can get SSF to work smoothly under Wine
gcdemu does wonders as a disc mounter under Linux

and there's no reason on 2016 to not use max compatibility in SSF, it runs fine on a shitty laptop I got in 2010, let alone a remotely recent i3/i5 machine

>>3428739
SSF problem at launch was requiring SSE(2?), back then it was not that common.

>>3428739
>He is pretty over-confident -- there's been a bunch of behavior that's been documented to be different in Fusion than on real HW.

Yeah, but most of those have been found way later than Kega was out. Remember that Fusion is basically a 2004 emulator, with a bugfix in 2006 so it runs fine on DWM.

Of course you'll find more "accurate" emulators nowadays, but they all took 13 years more development to find and fix bugs that Kega did wrong.

>>3428909
the Batman & Robin one has been present and reported since 2004 (As I said, the Eidolon's Inn days).

New Saturn vids:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvlI1NZZtBQ [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6z1BvGoydQ [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTa5QfSZ6sc [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JodFY6rVVI [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X85nYUsV9wE [Embed]

>>3429564
>it can't do progressive display

fucking dropped.

>>3429564
But can it play Sonic Jam?

>>3430636
Yes. It runs very bad though because of my CPU

>>3430649
whats the cpu?

No but really in a non-shitposty way what games does the Saturn have?

I was never a big sega fan growing up so I honestly don't know, besides being semi-interested in Panzer Dragoon what else is there for the Saturn that hasn't got a port available elsewhere?

>>3430652
Core 2 Quad (q9450), which is way below what Mednafen recommends for Saturn. Performance varies, some 2d games run full speed, some run half speed, some 2d games with 3d environments run fine, 3d games are massive trouble areas

SSF is my go to for Saturn emulation and I have no qualms with using it, I just wanted to test this for fun as all.

>>3431502

yo what game dat?

>>3432381
Theres a game no one else has played

>>3432381

Show's how crazy Saturn 2D could get. It looks like a modern indie game going for super smooth animation. Really makes me wonder what would have happened if they had made a Castelvania game for the Saturn.

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>>3432406
>Really makes me wonder what would have happened if they had made a Castelvania game for the Saturn.
ayy

>>3432381
>>3432402
Very cute game. Seems that when the internet figured out how few copies there were it quickly became the holy grail of Saturn games, goes for more or about the same as Panzer Dragon Saga.

Really wish I had known about Super Tempo before the jews swooped in, but eh

>>3432495
He obviously means a native game, not a port.

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>>3432363
Albert Odyssey Legend of Eldean

Why did the industry have to fall for the 3D meme?

>>3432717
Because normies will jump on the "new thing" bandwagon very easily, especially with the bullshots they were fed.

>>3432717
>Why did the industry have to fall for the CGA meme?
>Why did the industry have to fall for the GPU meme?
>Why did the industry have to fall for the video games meme?
>Why is /vr/ confusing retro with neo-ludism?

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>>3432783
2D is better than 3D though. Look at how beautiful >>3432697 looks compared to this.

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>>3432806
Don't start this discussion, it's so fucking tiring.
Even if I were to agree with you that 2D is inherently more beautiful, which I won't even concede one way or another, beauty isn't everything and 3D spaces allows for more gameplay possibilities.

Essentially you're saying you're a graphics whore and gameplay doesn't matter. There are pros and cons to using different things, doesn't mean they're not worth the sacrifice.

Nice cherrypicking by the way.

>>3432815
I like 2D gameplay a lot better than 3D gameplay though

Last week I wanted to use a saturn emulator to rip some sprites from a game

Nothing I tried worked. Couldn't even get the ISO to play on anything I tried.

>>3433032
What game and what emulator?

>>3433045
Megaman X4 (I wanted to get the backgrounds for some stream overlays because the Saturn has some effects the PS1 version didn't)

I tried Satourne, SSF, Yabause and Saturnin. SSF couldn't even load the ISO and nothing else I tried worked.

>>3433048
Did you try fiddling with it? You can run games with the bios and without. Also are you using Daemon Tools as a virtual drive?

and lastly where did you get the rip of the game?

>>3433053
Don't forget, always load the cue and not the ISO/BIN itself

>>3433053
I fiddled with it for about 2 hours before giving up and just making something out of what I already have.

I really don't know much about emulation. I do own the original game but it's in storage states away right now, so my only option was to find an ISO, which no I wasn't using tools because I don't know how, I assumed it'd be similar to Gens.

>>3433061
Read the emulation wiki.
http://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/SSF

>>3433061
Well if you do get Daemon Tools make sure to get an older version, I think it's bundled with malware now

Once you get it, you just drag your game cue on there and you're ready to go. Then you set SSF to the virtual drive it makes.

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Digital Pinball runs way better than it did with yabause, still not full speed though. Fucking excited to see where this goes though, I'd kill to have proper Saturn emulation outside of SSF.

What frontend do you guys use that supports Saturn ?

Mednafen .exe does nothing if I try to launch it by itself.

>>3433134
retroarch. inb4 hurr shilling.

>>3433138
Thank you.

So I have installed retroarch.
I have put the Saturn bios in the "system" folder
I got retroarch to download "mednafen_saturn_libretro.dll", which is in the core folder.
So that's when I figured mednafen has to be put in this same folder, right?

Then if I load an iso retroarch crashes.

Help a noob please? I can't find documentation on this since Saturn support is completely new.

>>3433162
The problem is that retroarch forces you to use bin/cue format, isos don't work. It's fucking dumb and I've said so from the start, but people keep telling me I'm wrong. No clue why.

>>3433190
Thanks for your answer, so I made a bin/cue of the image and I get the same result.

Am I right in assuming I should have put mednafen (the one downloaded from the link in the OP) in the "cores" folder? I'm thinking not, but I don't see any option that tells retroarch to use mednafen; outside of the "mednafen_saturn_libretro.dll" which I downloaded seperately through retroarch anyway. Is that even the right one?

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>>3433196
You also need sega saturn bios files, here are mine.
https://www.mediafire.com/?dn8kzdi4dafm0r0
You can tell retroarch where your bios files are in the options, but I'm pretty sure if you drop those in the system folder, it should work.

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>>3433202
Upon further testing, it seems while the Japanese bios file is good, the american bios file (mpr-17933.bin) I posted doesn't actually work. Use the one from here instead:
http://www.planetemu.net/rom/mame-roms/saturn-1

This emulator is spotty speedwise right now. Bulk Slash runs smooth as silk while Die Hard Arcade runs a bit slow much like Digital Pinball does. Resident Evil won't even boot yet. Still a ton of fun to be had with it right now.

If you have any more trouble just let me know and I'll try to help.

Oh thank you ! That worked.

For some reasons the game didn't like my bios.

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>>3433292
Wooo, glad to hear it worked. I didn't want to give out bad information. Time for some motherfucking Bulk Slash.

>>3432495
SotN on the Saturn is terrible. There's a shitload of slowdown no matter what is happening on the screen. It's almost as bad as MSH.

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>>3433320
It's terrible yet I loved it. The weird extras and changes made it worth checking out for me and it might be my favorite version of the game because of that. SotN is one of those games I find myself replaying at least once every two years or so anyways.

>>3433306
Does the Saturn version of Quake boot for you? It doesn't for me, I'm very interested in that version of the game since it's a recreation using a different engine, with many differences.

>>3433320
>>3433351
It's my favorite version of the game as well. IMO the extra content largely make up for the cons, and I didn't think it lagged that much.

>>3414859
I never played Guardian Heroes or even looked at a video

Now I wanna play it, for this specific game should I use mednafen?

>>3433370
SSF

>>3433392
Ok thanks, video looked like mednafen was working fine but i'll use SSF since it's tried and true

>>3433362
No, but it seems SSF won't even boot the game past the initial load.

>>3433408
Saturn rips are notoriously bad, if a game doesn't even boot in SSF the first thing you have to wonder is not if something is fucking up in SSF but instead if you have a shitty rip from 2004 by a bosnian slumlord that cut out half the content because he wanted everything to fit in a single megaupload zip out of his 56k connection.

It might not be the case, but most often than not you have a shitty rip

>>3433408
>No, but it seems SSF won't even boot the game past the initial load.

set up the fucking region.

>>3433431
Nope, Ive played the same rip burned on a disc on an actual saturn. SSF didn't play quake either last time I tried.

>>3433435
You don't need to set up a region if you're not using a bios, which afaik doesn't really seem to matter much. Supposedly loading a bios helps compatibility in some cases. I might have been just lucky but I never came across a game that actually requires loading the bios files to work, and it's a pain to have the bios loaded since if forces you to manually change the regions

>>3433408
>No, but it seems SSF won't even boot the game past the initial load.

Saturn Quake uses a netlink library on the USA version which is broken in SSF.

Use the PAL version, it'll run fine.

>>3433320
>>3432495

Co-director of the game says it's shit:

>I understand why fans who've never played the Saturn version would be interested in those features, but I really, really don't feel good about them. I couldn't put my name on that stuff and present it to Castlevania fans. —Koji Igarashi, June 2007, on the Saturn port

>>3432495
>>Really makes me wonder what would have happened if they had made a Castelvania game for the Saturn.
>ayy

An actual game for the saturn, not a PS1 port.

Symphony is built for the PS1 in mind.

A game built with the Saturn in mind would be even more visually brilliant.

It would have been so nice. We could have goten an N64, Playstation and Saturn Castlevania game, each with their own strengths/weaknesses.

>>3433134
>Mednafen .exe does nothing if I try to launch it by itself.

It's a no gui program. Drag n drop if you must.

>>3433274
>This emulator is spotty speedwise right now.

It's going to get slower as time goes on, not faster. Fixes to make it more accurate will slow everything down.

>>3432381
this doesn't even work on mednafen
if it actually does and i just have a bad dump tell me and link

>>3433776

Nah, I just used SSF for that. Just wanted to bump the thread.

>>3433674
That doesn't make much sense to me. Other emulators got more playable speeds as they got more accurate.

Two questions, if I may:

1. Does Mr. Bones just not work on the current build, or am I just getting multiple bad dumps? Where's the best place to get them outside of downloading a full pack on Pleasuredome?

2. If it doesn't work yet, how do I solve the controller config glitch in SSF? The one where, when you go to define the controls, it just pops up a blank box, which won't go away until you kill the whole process.

>>3433965
>2. If it doesn't work yet, how do I solve the controller config glitch in SSF? The one where, when you go to define the controls, it just pops up a blank box, which won't go away until you kill the whole process.

That happens because Xinput drivers are fucked and they put both triggers an analog axes at -127 on a range of -127 to 128, errorneously assuming that the Z axes are a range from 0 to 255 instead.

How to fix it:
- use drivers that allow you to assign custom functions to each button/axis on your controller. X360 pads have at least two, and the Masahiko Morii ones are WHQL signed.
- If your gamepad doesn't have custom drivers like that, then buy a better gamepad
- ask shima to look into it. He has a twitter and can read English fine.

>>3433102
>Digital Pinball runs way better than it did with yabause, still not full speed though.

Digital Pinball ran at full speed on SSF on my Core 2 ten years ago.

With progressive display too, unlike how this piece of shit runs it.

>>3434004
Pretty sure you've entirely missed the point. We might finally have something that could potentially run better than SSF and isn't locked away, so it could be ported to tons of different types of emulation boxes. Keep trying to rain on the parade though.

>>3434004

Obviously zsnes is the best snes emulator.

>>3434072
From what I hear it doesn't run full speed on a core 2 quad and requires 64bit. That means that anything that can run this fine, can also run SSF perfect.

>>3434000

I'm using a PS4 controller, which isn't ideal, but gotta make due and all that. I've been using DS4Windows, which emulates it as a 360 pad. Is there a guide to fixing this, or maybe a better set of drivers?

>>3434082
These are things that get branched out to in time. Also SSF is Windows only, so not "anything" like you say.

>>3434095
>These are things that get branched out to in time.

It took Gens 2-3 years to just get 32bit desktop support after it went open source, and 10 years to get actual emulation improvements.

Saturn is 8x more complex.

Don't hold your breath.

And besides, is there even any good Saturn exclusive doesn't run on SSF?

>Also SSF is Windows only, so not "anything" like you say.

Well you have to install Windows on such a system, but again, any system that could run the mednafen Saturn emulator right, would have no problem with that.

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>>3434130
>What is linux, osx, android, hacked game systems, ect

>>3434140
>What is linux

Won't be able to run this emu fast enough unless you put it on strong gaming desktop, at which point you really should just use Windows anyway.

>osx

If you can afford that, you can afford a real Saturn.

>android, hacked game systems

Not strong enough to run this emu.

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>>3433965
Mr. Bones works fine for me, you got bad dumps, son.
https://www.neofighters.info/forum/showthread.php?14031-Sega-Saturn-NTSC-U-248-248-83-4GBs-PAL-243-243-90-9GBs
This is where I've been downloading my Saturn games from.

>>3434189
Linux is great for gaming, as it makes sure you don't cave to publishers pushing unfree and unopen games.

>>3434216

Thank you!

>>3433578
Of the ORIGINAL game.

What do you think he would say? Another team changed "his" game without him being asked his opinion.

And it's not like the original devs is a golden team above everyone else, considering the amount of glitches and balance brokenness SOTN was released with. Why should I let them dictate my opinion ?

>>3434189
>Won't be able to run this emu fast enough unless you put it on strong gaming desktop,
A Core 2 Quad is not a strong gaming desktop, not since 2010.
Seems like any i3 should be fine, maybe even some Pentiums.

>>3422347
>Stupidly narrow track lanes
>super hard to control
>sonic runs like he just ate a whole ham
>impossible to discern proper direction

I knew that game was a pile of shit the moment I first saw it. I played rayman instead.

>>3434130
>Gens
>10 years to get actual emulation improvements.

When did this happened?

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>>3433048
You're doing it wrong. Pic related.

>>3428739
>>who is playing this and why are they so bad

If you'd played the game you would know that there isn't a way to play it good, the game controls like shit.

>>3435048
>If you'd played the game you would know that there isn't a way to play it good, the game controls like shit.

Just use the shoulder buttons in conjunction with the d-pad to make turns, there you go, now the game controls perfectly fine.

>>3435252
I have finished the game many, many times, even with the shoulder pads it's not a great controlling game.

>>3435254
Then you just suck at it. I'm not saying that it has super smooth exemplary controls, but the controls work just fine, and there is no reason to play it as bad as on that webm unless you are a poor player.

>>3435257
>You just suck at it
>you are a poor player
Oh boy, do I need to remind you you're bitching about someone's skill in Sonic R of all games? Sonic R, the game that's known for only two things, squandering the IP when the Saturn needed it most and having a really great soundtrack.

It's easy as fuck and can be beaten in a relatively short play session. Really faggot?

I can't even think of a decent Saturn game except for the Panzer Dragoon series

>>3435485
DRRRRRAGONFORCE

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>>3435492

>>3435492
Btw I forgot SF3

>>3435508
>decent

Astal looks beautiful but in-game it is clunky as all fuck. Slow-ass controls.

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>>3435508

>>3432381
What's this game called?

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>>3435668

>>3435668
Super Tempo, but don't bother with it, the only thing it has going for it are the smooth animations. The controls are not really fluid, and the whole game feels like it is made for 5 years old.

>>3435845
I did that and got
>Best guess for this image: games

Thanks though

>>3436032
Weird I'm getting it too if I just hit "google" in 4chan X, but if I go through the option in Chrome's context menu it knows what's up.

Magnets how do they work

>>3436060
Magnets work through a fundamental force of the universe.

>>3436068
Ah yes of course

>>3436068
Universes how do they work

>>3435845
Not the person you're responding to, but I'm using firefox and can't do that. It is a good trick though senor.

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>>3436316
It's only an extra step further

>>3435508
Astal blows.

>>3436076
That one we're not sure about yet.

>>3423593
Linux > Windoze for almost anything nowadays, so having more good cross-platform emulators in Retroarch is always good. By the time I make an emu box I hope to ditch Windows outside of a VM on my desktop.

>>3438145
Beautiful graphics

>>3438153
What.

>>3438153
Wrong thread and wrong board buddy

I tried launching Falcom Classics but it crashed. Do I need to name my bios something different than saturn_bios? In which case what should the filename be for JP 1.01?

>>3433431
Is there any reliable source for good rips?

>>3438246
Pleasuredome has a couple of torrents with redump rips. Don't know if it's a full set but at least the important stuff is there

The neofighters link posted here also has a bunch of stuff and should cover all the entry level needs without getting too obscure

>>3438246
Go to the pleasuredome

>>3438263
>>3438270
alright, blocking disposable mail is obnoxious though, had to find an obscure domain

>>3438246
Google for "Sega Saturn USA 99% complete torrent".

iirc its up at demonoid too.

>>3438286
Well with their verification shit I guess it'll be instantly banned anyway, I found redumps uploaded elsewhere so no point bothering with this elitist crap.

>>3438294
>USA 99%
So it's like 10% of the library?

Is it normal that the clock setting isn't saved? It asks me to set the time every time I boot a disc. Yabause seems to just skip it unless it's a different bios thing. Haven't tried SSF but it seems to save the memory data so I presume it works on it.

>>3422347
dude that game is not a fair example of that and you know it.

>>3438370
It means your internal battery is dead, if playing on an actual system
Guess it's not a feature of the emulator yet

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>>3438154
>Linux > Windoze for almost anything nowadays

>>3438432
It was just a joke refute at the meme, never played it myself but back in the Sonic 3D Blast days I've always wanted to try that and Sonic Drift.

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>>3438445
>>3438370

I had a Saturn and that did it to me too. I think you need a Memcard to have those save. I never bought the memcard.

Does Mednafen emulate the Memcard or RAm expansion yet?

>>3438683
Name of game?

>>3438687
RayCrisis

>>3438687

RayCrisis for playstation

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>>3435485
Saturn Exclusives? If I ignore Arcade games (which is a huge chunk of the library, but sometimes still worth playing on Saturn for extra modes):
Panzer Dragoon Series (As you said)
Fighters Megamix
Shining Force III (Trilogy)
Shining Wisdom
Story of Thor 2 (Legend of Oasis)
Guardian Heroes
Burning Rangers

If I can include arcade ports it blows out to most of Sega's Model 1 & 2 Library too.

>>3436349
It's too early for me to be laughing this hard.

>>3438730
>Guardian Heroes
XBLA

>Panzer Dragoon Series (As you said)
First game is on PC, PS2 and Xbox. Zwei and Saga are exclusive tho, and probably the most fun exclusive on the Saturn.

>>3438852
Ah, I completely forgot about Guardian Heroes on XBLA, thanks!

I also wasn't aware of the original Panzer Dragoon on PS2 and Xbox. Was it on Xbox as part of Orta?

Hows the PC version hold up?

But yes, Zwei is a wonderful game. One of the demos that came with my Saturn and I thought it was brilliant. I enjoyed Saga, but not as much as SFIII on the Saturn as far as RPGs go.

>>3439248
>But yes, Zwei is a wonderful game.

Panzer Dragoon BLOWS shit like Star Fox out of the water. Full 360 degree view is a game changer. And the universe is so much more interesting, with much better art direction.

>>3438730

burning rangers any good?

>>3440225
nah. shit camera, ugly graphics, poor gameplay, low fps

>>3435628

What was the special prize for getting all 100 rings in the time attack? I remember reading that something special happened in mags back in the day, but it was always a "surprise".

>>3440225
>>3440338
I personally liked it, but it's been years since I played it.

It's somewhat unique on the Saturn in the style of game, a third person action/adventure thing. I thought the gameplay of 'shooting' fires and having to avoid obstacles and platforming via the jetpack was really fun.

Try it out, and I hope you enjoy it.

It's worth the price of admission for the theme song alone:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMyHJhe2ggM

>>3440805
>>3440338
>>3440225
Burning Rangers does 3d polygon transparency, but only with a single layer, and the transparent parts of the screen are out of sync with the rest.

It also does dynamic colour lightning.

These are the only special things about the game. It has shit camera, shit controls, jerky framerate, and it has an extremely bad case of polygons jumping around.

>>3440883
Was it really that bad? I quite enjoyed it when it came out and then years later when I revisited to try and finish it.

>>3440916
Yes. It was like a typical 3d Sonic Team game: looks interesting but the gameplay has flaws that turn it extremely annoying. But because it was made by Sonic Team, a team of autists are parroting how great the title is.

>>3440345
"When the final mission is successfully completed, a giant Ring appears over the playing field. After jumping into it the credits will play and some rare artwork will appear in the background."

http://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_World_(level)#Missions

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>>3441036
Videos of people getting it in the game show that nothing at all happens. The timer just keeps running until it hits zero.

What's a good site or torrent to download Jap saturn games ?

Can't find anything myself.

Thanks a lot

>>3442869
Read the thread

>>3443016
Pleasuredome is elitist crap. After going through the most insane registering I've seen, I have to seed a fucking Mame megapack before I even "earn" the right to see what they have, I can't even know if what I'm looking for is there. Better be worth it.

>>3443069
>I can't even know if what I'm looking for is there
Take a look

http://www.pleasuredome.org.uk/details.php?id=d6c292a554a8b833839f0d595e9734f0548a4208#expand

http://www.pleasuredome.org.uk/details.php?id=54039bdefaaec35c4bac61037d58f88bf3289cc2

http://www.pleasuredome.org.uk/details.php?id=6d4119213ca6d49c7467c5c0857bf17247b152e5

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>>3442869

Forget pleasuredome too much hassle.

https://archive.org/download/SgaStrnCmplt

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>>3443090
Holy fuck

>>3443090
Thanks.

Will you believe me if I say I'm looking for something specific and it's not in there though?

But it's very nice nonetheless.

>>3443086
Still can't see what's in there myself though, not even in the forum descriptions, but it does look promising though.

>>3443129
>Will you believe me if I say I'm looking for something specific and it's not in there though?

If it's Super Tempo it wasn't re dumped, and it doesn't work with Yabause or Mednafen yet.

>>3443069
>registered to pleasuredome
>new user
>should I download one of these freeleech/DOUBLESEED torrents currently up?
>nah, I'll just sit on the MAME torrent until I get enough upload
>why bother folding@home for upload credit?
Why are you doing this to yourself anon?

Whenever I launch SSF I get a small box that shows the minimize, enlarge and close buttons and nothing else. I've tried all versions on the sticky. Any help?

>>3443143
Like I said it doesn't let me see anything else except those 2 Mame megapacks and the sites rules. It's ridiculous.

Is £50 a good price for a Saturn? Pretty good condition, as in nothing really stuck out to me as poor.

>>3443146
Delete the ini files.

So what do I play if I'm not into RPGs or shmups?

>>3443968
You get a N64 or a PC then.

>>3443968

Panzer Dragon and Zwei like everyone else. Maybe a few platformers.

>>3443146

>ssf

Mednafen is the new hotness though.

>>3436316
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/image-search-options/

I hate the fact that I can't run Saturn games at any decent speed with any emulator ever yet I can run Model 3 games at full goddamn speed. Jesus fuck, saturn, you crazy.

>>3444072
Something's wrong. SSF runs fullspeed on a toaster laptop from a decade ago.

>>3444018
Mednafen is just experimental at this point, you'd be silly to take it seriously or play long campaign JRPGs on it.

>>3443968
Adventures and dating sims

>>3444072
Model 3 Games? Which emulator? I tried running VF3tb a while back and I had huge problems.

>>3443968
Beat em ups like Die Hard Arcade? Guardian Heroes?
As someone said, Panzer Dragoon is great.
I would say arcade games, but probably better to emulate the arcade hardware than Saturn ports. At the time they were godlike though.

>>3444072
Dude I've been running SSF for almost a decade on shitty laptops
You're definitely doing something wrong

>>3444593
There's only one Model 3 emulator
It's not great but the games are playable

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Is there any way to get savestates to work?

>>3445540
If you are playing Yakyuuken Special, then it would be easier to just open the avi files on the disc.

>>3445768
This, that game fucking cheats like a motherfucker.

>>3414859
This happend because that guy being able to hack the saturn?

>>3446112
No, it happened because someone sat down and decided to code their own emulator, instead of bitching about other emulators being closed source and hoarding info.

>>3446112

They might have relied upon that work.

>>3446107
That's what I was curious about.