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I just recently dug my GB Camera up to rip its old photos and

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I just recently dug my GB Camera up to rip its old photos and maybe start taking it with me on trips.

Anyone else here still use this thing? I'm afraid everyone else will think I'm a huge hipster for using it as an actual camera, but I genuinely like the low-tech look of the photos. I'm not normally into photography, but GB Cam is fun. Was god-tier when I was a kid.
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>>3274681
What is that thing, I can't make it out.
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>>3274702
It's a mirror shot of the Gameboy Camera itself which resembles an eye.
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>>3274681

I went to PAX with one. Here's me with Adam Sessler.
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>>3274702
it's a game boy camera
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>now coming soon as a snapchat and instagram filter
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>>3274720
That's pretty cool. I take it you ripped that via Super Game Boy?
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How did you transfer The pic to a computer??
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>>3274738
You can either rip the save file and then screenshot them in an emulator, or there's pic related (BitBoy) which lets you "print" them directly to an SD card. That's what I used in the OP.
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>>3274745
>Holy fuck yes! this is exactaly what I'm looking for!
>Holy shit its expensive!

Well darn, I guess I'll stick to just trading pics to my flashcart.
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>>3274950
Wow you're right, the price has gone way up since I bought it. I think I only paid $60 when it was in pre-order? Now it's $100. Damn.
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>>3274993
Shit.

I wonder where they found the documentation for the print protocol.
I have plenty of free time to throw at making a program for an arduino, I just need to know how.
Or I guess i could poke it with a logic probe and reverse engineer it, but that takes longer.
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>>3274993
Damn. I remember downloading pics to my PC using parts a scavenged from old link and printer cables. So port the software to a $1 attiny and sell for $100+ Damn.
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>>3275015
You should make it compatible with modern printers.
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>>3275034
You can still but link-to-parallel adapters for like 8 bucks, but I don't have a pc with parallel ports anymore, much less a old enough OS to run the software.

Although, I do have several microcontrollers, so I might make a program that does the same thing as the bitboy and release it for free.

>>3275035
That's doable with a computer handling the printer for the micro.
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>>3275053
Get a parallel to USB adapter and run the program in dosbawx?
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>>3275059
I don't know if that would work.
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>>3275059
>>3275074
Also, I find it easier just to trade to flash cart and then dump the flash cart.

No screwing around with several layers of emulators to get a decrepit piece of hardware to work.
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>>3275083
I guess your time is worth a lot. To each his own.
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>>3275015
The documentation was out there somewhere at some point. You might do better just reading directly from the camera. In addition to being thoroughly documented it would mean you don't need a GB to extract pictures, just the camera.

>>3275059
Nope. Doesn't work.
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>>3275198
>You might do better just reading directly from the camera

Do you mean dumping the cameras saves or just using the camera in the cart?

I suppose one could dump the cart's save, bypassing the print option.
But if you mean just using the cart's camera then you lose some of the GB's unique effect since the camera operates at a different bit depth.
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>>3274730
Maybe you are onto something

http://www.8-bitcentral.com/blog/2016/famicam64.html
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>>3274734

yep, just recorded from Super Game Boy and took stills, then cropped em
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>>3275251
Just dump the save. The hardware design and software to dump and decode the saves is all readily available.
Although it looks like I've now found the details needed to use the print function which would allow someone to make a simliar device to the bitboy. And I have to say, the simplicity of wiring a link cable connector to an attiny to an sd socket is interesting. Retail price for the parts for such a device would be <$5 including the enclosure.

>>3275015
Found a bunch of info about the print protocol and apparently someone made a printer emulator. No source but seems pretty well documented.
https://milesburton.com/File:Gameboy_Printer_Protocol.docx
http://drx.a-blast.org/~drx/projects/gameboy/howto/index.en.html
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>>3275332
this almost looks like it was silkscreened onto a t-shirt
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>>3274681
I just took some pictures with my Gameboy Camera this weekend for a video.
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I wonder if the camera can be replaced with a cell phone camera.
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>>3274950
I use a Super Gameboy and then capture video with an Elgato.
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>>3275410
I doubt you'd get much, the game boy is probably not ready to even handle that much resolution.
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>>3274681
I have like 2 or 3 of the cameras.

anyone have the printer? used to use it a lot a few years ago and it was pretty interesting
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>>3275410
It probably wouldn't be possible.

The camera used outputs via a mix of digital and analog. All cell cameras nowadays use a internal frame buffer and digitally send that to the phone for saving.

>>3275565
I also have 3 cameras (Red, Green, and Blue). I use them like rolls of film, or use them each with a colored filter so I can composite them for a color picture (RGB!).

I've thought about getting the printer, but since the print head wears out I've kinda decided against it. (they're getting pretty old by now)

Although the bitboy looks pretty appealing to me, $100 is way to much. For that price I could just get an everdrive GB and another gameboy.
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>>3275410

You can do the opposite. There's an app that turns your camera into a shitty GameBoy camera.
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>>3275410
To do what? Take >9000 megapixel images? The camera in the device actually captures higher resolution images than are stored in order to save space.

>>3275591
Never had a problem with the print head wearing out. Then again I hardly uses them. I have one NIB I can guarantee isn't worn out.
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>>3275871
Hardly using them would stop them from wearing out.

The problem is as thermal printers get used, the print head's heating element slowly wears out.
What this means is that it no longer gets as hot, so the image gets fainter.
It usually never completely breaks though.

Then again, since I don't have one, I have no idea how significant the fading is.
It also might be possible to replace the heating element, but I only know of a few thermal printers you can do that for.
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>>3276369
This explains a lot for me. I thought maybe something was wrong with the paper, but now that you've explained the print head, mine is probably just worn out.

That's a shame, I was hoping to use it some more since I still have a bunch of boxed paper for it. I know it isn't even particularly expensive to get new-in-box GB Cams and Printers since nobody really cares about them, but it would kinda feel wrong busting open a classic game accessory.
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>>3275636
What's the app called?
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>>3277089
You can try cleaning the print head, that helps sometimes.
Just google "thermal printer maintance"

>>3277098
Just seatch "8 bit camera", "pixel camera", "retro camera", or anything similar in your phones app store.
There's hundreds of them, some pretty shitty, others actually pretty decent and fun.
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>>3276369
A faint image generally isn't a sign of a bad print head. There are a number of causes. Could just be shit on the print head. Could be the thermistor. Could be the power supply. If the issue really is that the printhead doesn't get hot enough it's one or a combination of the last two. All my printers work fine so also I can't tell how bad the problem is or how to fix it.

>>3277089
It's likely your paper has gone bad. Thermal paper doesn't have a long shelf life. To test it pick up a roll of thermal paper and test it. Doesn't have to be a sticker, just a regular till roll. If it prints fine your papers bad. If not, your printer is the problem.
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Boop.
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Ooh, sweet. I've got some authentically retro pics on my GB camera. Will share when I get home.
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>>3277473
I have one that I bought second hand that just has three pics on it that show the silhouette of a man with a bright white spot over his face.

It's kinda creepy, especially in slide show with the Blue Danube playing
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>>3274681
You can get applications for smartphones that emulate the low resolution of the Gameboy Camera.

You can also mess around in Photoshop to get the same effect with regular photos.
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>>3277509
Why would I do that when I have the real thing?
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>>3277578

Then why are you afraid of people thinking you are a hipster, when based on this post, you actually are one?
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>>3277582
Oh, I'm not OP. But imo it's even more hipstery to pretend you're taking photos on vintage hardware than to just actually do it with a real appreciation for the hardware.

Plus the Game Boy Camera had more to it than just taking tiny pictures. It was moreso a game than a camera. Just like how Mario Paint is more of a game than an actual painting tool.
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>>3277625
Hell yeah dude.

The gb camera is like the digital equivalent of a lomo camera, but it also has a built in editor and shittons of bonus/hidden goodies, like Trippy-H, the 3 track sequencer.
It's the kind of camera that forces you to work within limitations, in the so shitty-its-good kind of way.

One other thing it's good for is IR photography.
Turns out the image sensor is infrared sensitive, and Nintendo didn't install a filter, so you can either put a red filter over the lens and capture pictures in the IR spectrum (flowers and trees look cool), or grab a remote control for a IR light source and you can take pictures in the dark.
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>>3277675
>IR photography

Ooh cool, I gotta try that.
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>>3277578
>>3277625

Why would you use the pronoun I if you weren't the OP? I wasn't talking to anyone but him/her/xe. The original is better, maybe you both should stop being pussies and caring about what other people think. The only time people care about what you take pictures of is if you're taking creep shots.
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>>3277680
It's really easy to do.
I just use the red lens from a pair of 3d glasses, like pic related.
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>>3277726
And trees look like pic related.

I think I took this pic in the early spring, so only the bottom of the tree had grown leaves, the top was still bare.
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>>3277506
I have a bunch I bought second hand and some of the pictures are great. One cam has a whole slew of pics of a guy and girl going on dates and some birthday pics. Another has this guy posing like a total douche in selfies at a bunch of tourist spots around the world.
The first time I ran across a cam with pics on it I was liek "haha look at those dorks". Now I buy cams just because I hope they'll have some interesting pics.
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>>3277939
Yeah, I always back up the original owner's pics before I wipe the cart.

I got one once that has a couple pics of a really nice car, their pet cat, and what looks to be their little brother playing on another gameboy.

I saw another guy on another forum bought one that had a porn shoot in it.
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>>3277728
That looks pretty cool.
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>>3277939
>Now I buy cams just because I hope they'll have some interesting pics.
That sounds like fun. But is it cost-effective? Are people charging stupid prices for GB Cameras yet?
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>>3278668
Nah, highest I've seen is like 8 bucks.
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>>3278675
Sweet. Game Boy Camera was awesome, probably my second-most played GameBoy game after Pokemon or Link's Awakening.

It's been quite a few years since I've used mine, I need to dig it out when I get home and post some pics.
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>>3278704
Yeah I'm not that anon but I can confirm that GB Cams are worth very little on the market for some reason. Even brand new, sealed in-box ones sell for $20~$30. The Japanese version goes for even less; I bought two brand new sealed ones for $10 each. Used ones go for nothing to maybe $8 at most. I once picked one up from a used game shop for $5.

Weird that they're worth basically nothing, but I'm not complaining. Easy to replace them or simply stockpile them just in case.
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>>3278884
The one exception is the gold zelda GB cam, since it was made in fewer numbers and has zelda stickers and frames.

>tfw it goes for ~$130+
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>>3279076
A few years ago, they would sell for about fifty bucks. I have always wanted one, but was a broke motherfucker. Now that I have a decent paying job, I would rather spend my money on other shit. I don't need the alternate stamps that bad.

I have five or so Game Boy Cameras. Ever since having my original one stolen in 1999, I buy them when I see them in stores. I also have one Japanese one that I got from ebay back when I lived in a town without any stores.

I've got a printer, but never use it. And I've got the Mad Catz camera link cable to transfer, but I don't have a computer to use it with right now.

I didn't find out about the BitBoy until they went to a hundred bucks. Not worth it for me. If pay sixty for one, but a c-note? Fuck that.
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>>3279193
Right with you.
If you do want to toy around with the alternate stamps, you can run a rom of the gold version in the KiGB emulator.

I'm also makeing progress on the arduino gb cam image saver.
Probably won't be done for a couple months, but in the end it should act the same as the bitboy. I'll release the program for free, but you'll have to build the device yourself.
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>>3277726
Those glasses kinda look like podracing goggles
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>>3279193
>Zelda Camera

I remember seeing that in the store catalog but never thought 50 was worth it for one.

More interesting to me is the Pikachu Printer.
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>>3278668
No, they're dirt cheap. They usually go for a buck. I paid $5 each for my NIB ones.
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>>3279356
Speaking of pokemon, I think it was interesting that the GB camera has pokemon sprites in it and was released before Red/Blue were released in the US.
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Holy crap, this >>3274950
Though it's such a low volume product, they probably have to price it as such to make it feasible. Few people are going produce and sell it purely out of love. But good to see it's available, I think I read about this before, but at the time there seemed to be no plans to market it.
I'll have to think about it for a bit, and continue to just point my camera at the GB screen to "transfer" them.

>>3275591
Isn't it a thermal printer? I thought those are non-impact, so at worst the heads will just get dirty.
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>>3277939
Problem with buying old GB cameras. The last owners' photos are still on them, and you've now got a found photography itch to scratch.
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>>3279710
Yeah, it's a low volume product, so some overcharge is expected, but a fucking Franklin is way to much. It uses maybe 10 dollars worth of components and probably takes about an hour to hand assemble. This makes the manufacturing cost about $20 at 10 dollars an hour.
Sure there's R&D costs, but the printer is fairly well documented, well enough that there are arduino libraries for it.
I'd pay $60, but $100 is so high that I'll make my own or just buy a nice flashcart instead.


>printer
Yeah, it's thermal. The heating elements wear out over time, reaulting in a fainter image.
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>>3279710
I contacted the people seeking the BitBoy. They said that since the original run, they make them to order now. That's why they're so expensive. But I know it doesn't cost a hundred to produce. I'm too dumb to do it myself, but I can't pay that much.
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>>3279356
>Zelda Camera
>I remember seeing that in the store catalog but never thought 50 was worth it for one.
I, however, DID buy one! It was toward the end of the whole Nintendo Power Catalog thing. I remember they were only charging 15 bucks at the time. Had to be around late 1999. It didn't even come with a box, just a sealed plastic bag along with the basic instruction manual.

>>3279076
>since it was made in fewer numbers
I recall the catalog saying it was limited to only 2000 units, which is quite a low number indeed. I suppose that makes it the rarest game I own. At least I know what to sell first if I ever develop a crack habit.
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>>3279801
You lucky bastard.

The rarest things I own are X (NIB) and Ghost Babel (loose).
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>>3279801
Here's one of the B album pictures. There are only 3, and they're all just renderings of official art. Kinda neat.
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>>3279831
Oldest picture. I took this off the pages of a little Pokemon strategy guide that came inside an issue of Nintendo Power. Meowth was my favorite.
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>>3279834
This is a sailboat that used to give harbor tours in Newport, RI, from a dock near where my family used to vacation.
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>>3279839
At some point, I purged a lot of pictures of myself. This is the only one I have, made it with the mirror function. Sometimes I forget how much stuff they jammed into this game.
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>>3279840
My mom asked to see what I was playing, I handed her the Game Boy and she accidentally took a picture of herself.
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>>3279842
That one time I met this guy called "Skipper". Almost went on a 3 hour tour, but decided not to.
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>>3279843
I was always impressed with how well it took pictures off of TV screens. I was super into Gilligan's Island at the time, they were airing it every night on Nick at Nite. Good times.
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>>3279845
A more recent picture from the last time I dug it out. Maybe about 2008? This is my friend, who was just starting to go bald at a cripplingly early age. Genetics are a bitch.

This is just about all of the Zelda stamps, though. I like them, but they're not extra, they just take the place of all the Mario/Pokemon stamps that the regular units have.
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>>3279848
Cool pics!

It's always neat to take take a look at the past.
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Anyone else wish that Perfect Dark had kept the gb camera feature?
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>>3279848
Not sure what you're trying to accomplish here. If it was to get an underage to circle jerk you I guess mission accomplished.
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>>3274681
Who cares what others may or may not think of you fuck them do what ever you feel like doing.
If this is something that really interest you go for it,
I would be really interested in seeing how the photos come out myself.
Specially if you treat it like a actual photography camera and try to take some well placed pictures of the scenery that might make for some interesting outcome for the pictures.
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>>3280214
...what the fuck are you talking about? I was just sharing pics from my Game Boy camera. That was the point of this thread, wasn't it? How is that an "underage circle jerk"?

Game Boy camera came out in 1998. Most of these pictures are from 1999. I was like, 14 at the time.
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>>3280214
Sharing Gameboy Camera pics like other people in this thread, faggot. Looks like somebody is super buttmad that their mommy didn't love them enough to fuck some nig in a back alley for money to buy your spoiled little prick ass a fucking video game.
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>>3279954
>dick-faced simulants everywhere
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>>3279954
Yeah, it's a shame that didn't happen. Might've created a precedent for other devs to use it that way too. Would've been cool as heck for the GB Cam to also double as an N64 Cam.

Nintendo's cool accessories always have missed opportunities and capabilities. Super Game Boy could do so much more than any dev ever bothered to use it for. The 64DD could've done some really cool stuff like what Mario Artist showed off, plus game expansion packs.
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I still take pictures from time to time with my GB camera when i'm on a trip somewhere, it's funny to see how some people look at you when you take your gameboy to start taking pictures. I had one as a child but lost it, but I still love the esthetic it gives to pictures.

To transfer them I use a GB transferer to get the save and GBCameraDump to extract the pictures, will post more pictures if there's some interrest.
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>>3280737
>GB transferer
$$$?
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>>3280741
About $25 with postage if I remember correctly

http://www.hkems.com/product/gb/gba-tr.htm
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>>3280743
>parallel port
geez. Still, cheaper than the other option shown in the thread, thanks
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>>3280746
Yeah and I remember seeing on some forums that it won't be working with an USB adapter but you got to have an old pc somewhere to use it.
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>>3280748
oh, and beautiful pics. Does make me want to go outside and present my GB to the world
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>>3280737
>>3280748

Nice shots anon, they look really similar to early photography, with all that deep shading and vignette around the edges.
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>>3280762
it is kind of early photography, as far as digital cameras are concerned
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>>3280737
Man, I would have the pictures you're posting if not for when I lost my childhood GB Camera. I literally lost it at the train station just before boarding a train to Paris. The last picture I took with it was my family standing on the platform. I was going to take pictures of all the major tourist locations.

Spent the every night in the hotel there just staring at the Pokemon Yellow I brought with me, since I lost the Game Boy too. Wish I still had it, that was my first game console.
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>>3280774
Yeah, and I'm sure everyone knows, but it once held the record for the smallest and cheapest digital camera.

>>3280778
I didn't come here to feel those feels.
My condolences, anon.
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>>3280778
Sorry to hear that bro, I took this picture in a station, maybe your GB camera's soul is still out there
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Maybe it was just the shitty game stores I went to but I remember in the early 2000's GB Cameras were still like, $20 at the cheapest since digital cameras weren't big yet. I loved mine to death though, I always had my teal gameboy and yellow gameboy camera with me. I remember my little sister was in the hospital because of her JRA and other problems and me being the awkward little kid I was didn't know how to react. I was so sad to see her like that but too young to process it. I think I came off as too cold and detached because I didn't know what to do, so I asked her if she wanted to take pictures with my GB camera. She took a couple pictures of herself and I remember saying "hold on I'm going to show you a secret", then messing with them by adding stamps and stuff. She seemed to enjoy it a lot, which made me feel a little bit better. That must have been around 2003-5 because the last time I remember having it was in 2006. I honestly have no idea what happened to it, it was most likely stolen and sold by my little brother. I just wish I could get that one camera back and look at the pictures again. I know somebody had to have bought it and deleted those pictures but some small part of me still thinks I'll come across the same yellow GB camera one day and find them completely untouched.
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>>3281162
Good luck in your search!

If I find a yellow camera with pics like you descibed I'll make a thread and dump them for you.
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>>3277956
If you enjoy snooping through people's pictures you should just look up how to search for unsecured webcams. I went through a Japanese guys photo album from 2000-2009 and left pictures of cats on it for him to find.
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So, we're all having fun discussing the camera, but did any of you enjoy its other features, like Space Fever 2, Ball, or Trippy-H?
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>>3281162
Anon you don't need a picture to remember that moment. It's real even if it's only a thought.
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>>3282247
Go back and stick this one in and see if he notices.
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>>3282250
Yeah, I played the shit out of Ball and toyed with Trippy-H some.

Definitely spent a lot of time with stamps and the drawing tools, though. It's actually really versatile at editing images. If you take the time, you can use the drawing tools to do just about anything to an image (or even just make an entire drawing).
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>>3282267
Yeah, it's pretty much got it's own version of photoshop on there. Granted it only has to deal with 132x112 pics at 2 bits per pixel.

It's crazy how much thought and detail Nintendo put into it, and then pulled off successfully.
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>>3282247
There weren't a lot of webcams in the 80's sport.
>2000-2009
Not retro kiddo
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>>3282574
what are you even talking about
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>>3282979
Underage invading /vr/
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>>3283515
Honestly, can we stop with the underage boogyman?

I know we don't want them, but everyone is so paranoid that it winds up just as bad as if we did have underage posters.
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>>3283515
I don't understand what was "underage" or "not retro" about that anon's post. There is no rule here that says "never EVER mention ANYTHING that took place after 1999!!!" The conversation at hand was about going through other people's old photos, and that post was totally relevant. It wasn't causing any problems until you came in and started sperging out about NOT RETRO!!1

I swear, you "NOT RETRO!" shitters contribute far less to this board than even the people who blatantly start actual not-retro threads, like GBA threads. Please go find a different thread to shit up.
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Put some batteries in my gbc , were the buttons always this bad?
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>>3284021
Yeah, the GBC d-pad kinda sucks. It's just too small. I wish they kept the DMG d-pad size. Or even the Pocket one.
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>>3283620
We do have underage posters.

>>3283760
>I don't understand
Maybe you will when you grow up. I've contributed as much to this thread as anyone. It was fine until a few people sperged out because I called underagefag underage. Probably because they're underage and self conscious of it.
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>>3284509
Cool, so could you go back to contributing to the thread then instead of whining about other people's supposed ages? If anything's NOT RETRO, it's that. Take it somewhere else.
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>>3274681
>I'm afraid everyone else will think I'm a huge hipster

You clearly are though.
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>>3284573
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>>3284509
Having underage posters is not the same as sperging out on anyone you think is underage.

Shouting >NOT RETRO REEEEEE is just as bad.

Also, you project a fuckton.
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anybody happen to know the specs of the camera? In particular resolution and levels
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>>3285435
The actual camera or the output after the cart processes it?

The actual camera runs at a monochrome 256x224, but the cart downscales that to half rez (128x112) and the camera outputs each pixel's intensity as an analog value, and the cart uses a 2 bit sample of the analog value for each pixel.

So pre-post processing you can get a 256x224 black and white pic with as hight of a bitdepth as you want, but the gameboy saves the images at half rez with a 2 bit depth (4 shades if grey).
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>>3285493
Fuck, I didn't mean to sage on that post.
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>>3285493
I meant the camera. So, 256x224 greyscale it is. Not sure about the analog value, I don't know enough about hardware to figure out how that would work, but good info, thanks
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>>3284567
>>3285420
The way you jump to the defense of an underage shitposter is truly pathetic. Did you even read the post I replied to or mindlessly rush to the aid of your own kind?
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>>3285509
>analog value
For each pixel it spits out a voltage between 0 and 5 volts.
You can either save this analog voltage for use with an analog viewing medium, like a CRT screen, or you can sample it at a given bit depth. Sampling the analog signal with a depth of 8 bits gives you 256 shades of grey, 16 bits is 65,536 different shades, and so on.
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>>3285525
the sampling must have been done by some ADC circuit in the camera "cartridge", as the GB has little use for analog voltages, no? And if so, was that one already sampling down to 4 bit, or something higher that was then processed in software?
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Anyone who says
KIDDO
SPORT
or whatever, should be fucking reported and ignored.

There are a few very active /vr/ trolls who go around specifically looking at things to shout NOT RETRO and UNDERAGE at, they are a form of shitposters and aren't contributing anything to /vr/.
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>>3285531
I believe the cart sampled it at 2 bits, since theres no reason to sample at a higher resolution and then use precious processor time to resample the image.

Another concern is that using a bit depth higher than 2 bits can become a problem.
The gameboy has 8 kB internal RAM, and with a image bit depth of 4 bits the image will take up 7.8 kB or RAM while being viewed/edited. This is nearly all of the RAM and leaves little for other processes.
@ a bit depth of 2 the image only takes up 3.9 kB of RAM, which is much more manageable.
The internal RAM could be upgraded by a chip in the cart to 32 kB, but this added cost to the cart
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>>3285547
>since theres no reason to sample at a higher resolution and then use precious processor time to resample the image
A reason would be that the post processing might use the extra value to better distribute error. Processor time isn't precious on the GB Camera, as it's not a realtime application. Nobody will notice or care if it takes a quarter second for the image to update.

>but this added cost to the cart
given the other hardware in the cart, ram would probably have been one of the cheaper parts, but you make a good point. Bank switching is needlessly complicated and expensive, so if you can reasonably avoid it, you'd avoid it.
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>>3282247
>unsecured webcams
>leaving pics of that on a webcam
idek. too retarded for this. explain
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>>3285619
Sounds like the storage device that the cam saved to was also open to the internet.

Idk. Don't really care.
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>>3280214
wow what a supreme cunt
>>3280496
i enjoyed your pics very much somewhat intimate yet volatile look at the past thanks for sharing!
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