Are you good at puzzle games, /vr/? Why don't we ever

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Have you ever fallen in love /vr/?

>>3179709
dat bgm tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49MH6AeFA2k

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I'm not, but I love playing them, I just can't get good.

>>3179694
>Are you good at puzzle games, /vr/?
No

Why don't we ever talk about them?
Because I'm not good at them

I'm terrible at them but love them dearly. I'm a huge fan of tetris and love the newer interations with the hold button. I just started getting into puyo puyo recently. My first experience was Kirbys Avalanche but I didn't play it much. Recently I got puyopuyo 2 on game gear and Puyopuyo Tetris on vita. Awesome game!

I AM the fucking mean bean machine son

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You wouldn't think it at first glance, but this is the best launch title a system has ever had.
Great alone, online or at parties.

Does anyone else know the shame of getting his anus handed back to him by a middle-aged Chinese lady at both Panel de Pon and Puzzle Bobble or is it just me?

For anyone with a Chinese mother, you know she beat your bum at these games, don't lie. No matter how good you could ever get at Panel de Pon or Puzzle Bobble, unless you're a Chinese woman who has had a child, you will never master them the way every video game playing Chinese mom does.

>>3179772
Can this still be played online with unofficial servers or something similar? Failing that, is there a way to play it online on a modern system?

>>3179790
I don't think so, only game that has such dedication still is PSO, but Chu Chu Rocket is honestly the most fun with four controllers, three mates to man them with and copious amount of pizza/snacks and alcohol.
If you don't have the mates, the Dreamcast or the controllers, it's worth the hassle to work towards getting those.

>>3179694
>Why don't we ever talk about them?
Because you don't make the fucking threads. Fucking hate people that complain about things not being done or said on 4chan. You can post anything at any time, for free. Fucking do it and stop whining about it.

Who is doctor robotic is he related to egg man

>>3179783
I've never seen a woman that was any good at Tetris Attack/Panel de Pon.
They're great at other puzzle games, but for some reason Tetris Attack doesn't click with them.

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This was the only legit MVS game I owned. I had a multicart, but I made it a point to buy this game.

>>3179731

This. Panel de Pon is my favourite

>>3179694
I'm amazing at Tetris and Dr. Mario but for some reason I'm terrible at Puyo Puyo clones. I just can't think ahead in terms of the game mechanic for some reason. I get ruined in 1P mode then get angry so I just don't play them.

>>3179798
false

http://dreamcast.onlineconsoles.com/phpBB2/index.php

>>3180903
Neat.

who /money puzzle exchanger/ here

>>3180889
I'm pretty good with Puyo Puyo, but awful at Dr. Mario.

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>>3183950
all day

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Any of you guys tried Quarth?

It's really fun and addictive.

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>>3183950
Wait, they made a game out of that book? I had no idea.

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I've played the Logic Pro series in MAME before and it was pretty fun. Picross games in general are great timewasters.

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>>3179694
What do you guys think of puzzle-action games?

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Puyo is my favorite.

>>3179709
I agree with the filename.

>>3184349
I didn't know there was a book about it.
Is there any major difference between Idol Exchanger and Magical Drop other than gems "upgrading" upon being cleared?

Do you guys play any of these games over Fightcade or elsewhere?

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Puzzle Uo Poko is a very simple and fun puzzle game. Actually wouldn't mind owning the PCB.

>>3180785
Both my girlfriend and her mother crush me in Panel de Pon without even putting in effort. The only puzzler where I can consistently win is Tetris where all you really need is speed and efficient damage control. The kind of pattern recognition and planning that goes into doing well at PdP, Puyo Puyo and Lumines is just so far beyond my abilities.

>>3184923
That is not a puzzle game

>>3186460
looks like glitched shit
fuck off 2ho fag

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>>3184860
Reminder that soon Fightcade will update and more games will be supported, including Puyo Puyo and Tsu. Still no Puzzle Bobble 3 or Cleopatra Fortune though.

>>3179731
I'm the same.
Panel de Pon is my favorite game period but I still can't do a no-loss run of Very Hard, let alone get anywhere near as good as other dedicated players. I can barely wrap my head around Puyo Puyo too.

a few i enjoy:

bust-a-move (any)
columns
yoshi's cookie
wario's woods
segaswirl

bout the only ones i could get into

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go play it, seriously. One of the best connect-three games ever made

>>3179772
>>3179798
Chu Chu Rocket was one of the launch games that me and my pals just really, really disliked, but I understood the appeal. We much prefered Wario's Woods and Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo

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>>3189134
>bust-a-move

I remember playing that at a local pizza place while waiting with dad to pick up our order.

Even today they still have damn good pizza.

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Sutte Hakkun a best

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Picked up flipull at a flea market once, pretty cool block destroy game.

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How do i get good at Panel de Pon? Are there any guides or a wiki?

>>3192931
Honestly it's one of the easier tile puzzle games, what are you having problems with specifically?

>>3192931
Get an eye for chaining

>>3192931
that girl on the right is fucking sexy. Any better resolution pics of her?

>>3189368
About five years ago, it seemed that every MVS cabinet near me was:
>Puzzle Bobble
>Metal Slug 5
And yeah, a pizza joint had one too.

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>>3193124

>>3193147
perfect beauty, thank you

>>3193078
I want pointers on what I should be doing or looking for. Are there any kind of patterns or arrangements I should learn? Or you can give any advice you have.

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>>3195015
I've been thinking about sitting down and documenting as many patterns and advanced moves that I can think of in this game. Many require 60 fps timing to pull off, but good players find the patterns that allow them to continue on to the next link in the chain without waiting. Honestly though, the best advice I have is play the shit out of Vs. until you consistently kill Very Hard CPU in 15 seconds. Ultimately there is no teaching someone the patterns, save for a few, only discovering them yourself, because you have to burn them into reflexive memory.

>>3184337
The game is fun. Wish there's a mode with randomized levels though.

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I am universally terrible at all puzzle games. I like playing them though.

I used to play Klax a lot. I still remember that stupid tagline "it's the nineties and it's time for Klax."

>>3196006
These prerendered plastic raytracing primitives, it was a sad time

>>3185021
>Both my girlfriend and her mother crush me in Panel de Pon without even putting in effort.
What is it with women and puzzle games anyway? Is it because it's the only genre of video games where all the rape culture and male gaze doesn't inhibit their ability to play well?

>>3196017
Haha bro yeah I hate SJWs too, that's cool. Haha hey bro you know what I hate, SJWs haha cool right?

Go ahead and post your strawman picture, faggot.

>>3196017
how many game genres do you know that do not inherently rely on competition and violent conflict resolution?

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Who /bomberman/ here?

>>3196557
>mixed resolutions

>>3179694

Kirby's Avalanche > Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine

Seriously the dopey tune in bean machine drives me nuts after awhile

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>>3184337

Looks 2spooky4me dude

>>3184618
I'm playing this right now. Is fun. I only discovered the checkpoint system on level 8...

Pepen ga Pengo needs more love. Try it out if you like Bomberman games.

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>>3192931
It just takes time to get used to planning chains in advance.

>>3196734
are there native touch versions of this game mechanic? The pointer/selection strikes me as a bit of a workaround

>>3196591
>game with music like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD8hhD6r4M8
>spooky

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What is the best maze game?

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>>3196743
There is no way you could possibly get the fidelity and speed you need to kick ass at TA with a touch screen. It hurts my soul to just think about it.

>>3195513
>>3196734
I think it's hard to learn if "playing more" is the only way to get better, but if that's the only way then so be it.

>>3197091
I saw some people praising the touch controls for that DS Puzzle League game.

>>3196557
I didn't know Bonk was in that game.

>>3197091
my motivation for the question is this: looking at the webm I see two distinct actions happening over and over. One is moving the cursor to the new desired location and the other is performing a swap operation at that location. Thing is, the first action "does nothing" as far as the game state is concerned. It merely exists to translate the intention of a player to manipulate a set of stones. The player looks at the screen, decides where they want to operate next, but then need to spend precious moments to bring the cursor there. The other action though, that's the actual game action, that's where the game state is altered and progress is made. That's what the player meant to do right when the decision was formed, before going through the "preparations".

Now, with touch controls, one could eliminate the entire first action. The moment a player decided where to perform the next action, they perform the next action right there. Of course the swap action would have to be crafted carefully. For example, you can't just swipe, that's too slow. Should be sufficient to just tap, either both tiles, or sufficiently close between two tiles to avoid miss-tapping. Also, I'm talking about a reasonably large screen, not something you need to operate with a stick.
And of course there's still the issue of a public touch screen, gets kind of icky quickly.

Anyway, not saying touch is best in general, just that this particular "move selector" and "perform action" gameplay would, in my mind, profit from it massively, and I was hence wondering if that's the case or just wishful thinking.

>>3196743

the latest panel de pon came out on ds and it uses the touch screen. it's bland and slow.

>>3197837
as I suggested in my response, the DS is a bad example. You're stuck with a stick (that's indirection), and a very small screen. At that point aiming becomes a serious problem, that slows you down quite badly. I'm thinking more along the lines of a 10 to 20" panel angled in front of you, that you can tap on with both hands as you see fit. Any bigger and arm speed becomes an issue, any smaller and you need to aim too much, which costs time.

>>3192931
The easier modes on the DS version slow the block movement down a lot, giving you more time to set up chains. Plus it has a hint feature that helps you develop an intuition for spotting chains/combos. Just don't waste your time with the touch controls.

>>3197850
>as I suggested in my response, the DS is a bad example
I have to admit, I did not suggest that, my bad.

>>3197860
I guess I could try it.

>>3196557
Bomberman is da bomb!

I wish I was better at puzzle games, I was good at a tetris rip off on my mobile.

>>3189169
>Wario's Woods
I like this guy, I never got why Dr. Mario got big and had multiple remakes on newer platforms while this game was forgotten

I'd love if there was an active netplay community for this game

>>3196591
Then play the Game Boy version.

how to get good at puyo puyo/mean bean??

>>3197939
>how to get good at <game>??
practice

>>3196557
>Saturn
>Super V Gold
>'94 / Mega

The holy trinity of Bomberman games. Inb4 3Dfags.

>>3197887
We could play on mednafen right now.

Any Columns fans ITT?

>>3198035
I had Columns for Game Gear as a kid, and really dug the atmosphere and music of the game. It's fun, but I think that it's not well balanced, in the sense that the best chains are mostly by mistake.

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>>3197939
http://puyonexus.net/wiki/How_to_Play_Puyo_Puyo

1. Get familiar with regular patterns: Stairs, Sandwich, and all of their types. Also L-shape. (max chain 5-)
2. Learn to mix these patterns together. (max chain 7+)
3. Learn a transition. Maybe vertical, GTR or a variant. (max chain 10+)
4. Learn how to build on the second floor. (average chain 7+)
5. Work on consistency. (average chain 10+)
6. Learn how to tail.
7. Learn more patterns and more transitions.
8. Work on speed.
9. Learn how to harass.
10. Learn how to counter harassment.
11. Learn to play while watching your opponent's screen.
12. Refine everything, get lots of experience, learn all the details of the system.
13. ???

That should be a good start.

>>3198062
geez, that's enough of a reason to not bother with the game. Didn't know I need a fucking degree to puzzle around

>>3198072
You could start with #1. It would be enough to beat most beginners. Didn't you want to get good? You need to practice.

>>3198072
>he isn't willing to go Full Puzzle
Get out.

>>3198072
Don't practice in arcade mode, play vs the cpu with the lower speed settings which gives you less colors to work with, once you get really good start raising the speed and number of colors. Endless mode is also cool.

>>3198079
>Didn't you want to get good?
No, I'm a different anon. I never played the game, and might have considered picking it up, but if it takes all that upfront work just to play that game, I'll pass. Have fun with it.

>>3198096
You can beat the cpu just fine without knowing what you're doing, just learn the basic stair pattern.

>>3198097
or I'll just play more relaxing games instead

>>3198096
It takes all that work to get to a pro level at it. Shouldn't that be obvious? You can stop at lower levels if you're fine with that. You can also play without knowing anything and still have fun.

>>3198102
This is all you need. Super easy.
http://i.imgur.com/efdGmv3.gif

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Anyone else get this shit with their Dreamcast?

Do any of you know where I can DL the PC version of Puyo Puyo Sun? Google has failed me

>>3196013
I would love to see a game in this style in realtime, just for the lulz. Like a sandbox in nineties CG.

>>3195975
Found that on a gb multicart and then later played the DOS version. Pretty fun.

Not strictly retro but this is a nice collection of puzzles including some classic clones.
http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/puzzles/

>>3200925
http://www.mediafire.com/download/hzmwynntwtm

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>tfw you will never be good at puzzle games

>>3205191
Offsets are a good mechanic, they said.

>>3205208
Well, without offesetting he'd be equally screwed. That was a 10 chain vs a 12 one.

>>3205213
And the 12 chain was also powered at the last link too.

>>3205208
Offsets are fine, games would end too soon before Tsu.

>>3205253
that and iirc Arle does stronger chains by default from Fever and onwards.

Then again, starting with Fever, they turned the series into a flash game tier garbage.

>>3205291
Sonic Team Puyo was a mistake.

>>3205294
They should just release the rights to the characters so Compile Heart can re-use their classic cast for new Sorcery Saga games.

They had to create a complete mirror cast for those... same bio, same abilities, but different looks and names, it was fucking crazy.

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>>3179694
>Are you good at puzzle games, /vr/?
I'm pretty damn good at Tetris if that's what you wanna know.

But I suck at every other puzzle game though

>>3205349
tetris is literally babby's first puzzle game, it's so casual it hurts

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Any /PERFECT!/ here?

>>3205291
On Tsu rules there is no difference in chain power between characters. On Fever rules, Arle still isn't high on the power list. The webm is Tsu rules.

>>3205318
Compile Heart is far from being as good as original Compile.

>>3205406
Fuck off Dean.

>>3196939
Ladybug

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>>3195015
>>3192931
I highly recommend playing Pokemon Puzzle Challenge and doing the puzzle levels. They're basically a training mode on how to combo and what patterns to look for.

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Puyo Puyo is damn awesome. I collect and play that stuff always. Love the sound effects, voices, gameplay etc - I don't understand a word of it, but it doesn't even matter because it's so much fun to play.

>>3189381

urg, 32 in 1

>>3206374
too few? not enough value for your money?

>>3206378

sure i love my renamed games x4 times each

>>3206390
just 4? Don't you want more value?

>>3205536
>Compile Heart is far from being as good as original Compile.

And current Sega is even further from being a tenth as good as original Sega.

>>3206428
when did Sega stop being original Sega? What was the transition timeframe? What events marked it?

>>3206438
I'm not the person you were replying to, but if I had to muse a bit on it, I think the biggest turning point was when they left the console market, though the shift in the nature of arcades in both the United States and Japan also plays a pretty significant role in the history of Sega and their games.

>>3206438
I'd say around gen 7 is when Sega really died. You could say it was when Sammy bought them out in 2001, but they still had a few games left over that they finished up later on like Jet Set Radio Future and Panzer Dragoon Orta and Super Monkey Ball and OutRun 2 that were really good games. Of course, Sega's prime was the '90s, and I doubt they'll ever regain the magic they had during that time.

>>3187180
>tsu support
We already have Puyo Versus...

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You guys should check out Pussy Carot. It's puyopuyo combined with arkanoid/breakout. It also has cute girl characters.

>>3179694
I'm really fond of Columns.

When I was very little and lived with my grandmother, I found an old Master System in the attic. I don't remember why she had it, but the only games on it were some racing game, a a duck hunt knockoff, and columns. Columns was my favorite of the three and it stuck with me ever since.

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>>3205349
What are the most important skills one must have in Tetris, and how do I acquire them?

>>3206289
Does this have a console release?

>>3207170
Apparently, VS isn't 1:1 with the original Tsu rules, even though 99.9% of people can't notice it. I surely can't. But those that do will be able to play the original if they want to.
And it's just another venue for people to play the games, which is always good.

>>3207179
It's more like Puzzle Bobble + Breakout if you ask me. And yes, it's nice. I'd recommend the Playstation version.

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Best version of Columns coming through.

>>3207295
>VS isn't 1:1 with the original Tsu rules
Then why isn't it updated?

>>3209240
Probably because most people don't even know about that, or more likely because Hernan is dead. I figure the differences aren't big enough to demand reviving him.
I wish the source code was open.