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http://byuu.org/articles/emulation-4/
>If my goal were simply to create the most well-loved emulator by the largest amount of people possible, I would have had to have ceased development around bsnes v073. If my goal were to create the ideal "accurate but still usable" emulator, I'd have to stop development today.
>But that's a sad end. There is so much more to do ... and there always will be. The lack of popularity of something shouldn't mean that it never gets preserved. You and I may not have much interest in the Voicer-Kun, but I've had Japanese people reach out to me and ask me about it. And I do want to emulate it, as well as everything else I've talked about.
>And so, going forward, my intention is to drop the balanced and performance SNES cores from higan entirely. They are a dead end representing the past. The old versions will remain available, and hopefully we can keep them in a maintenance mode as a separate project to keep them alive. But that'll be highly dependent upon my free time and energy levels, which have been steadily dropping over the past few years.
>Most of the value of these cores have been eroded anyway through the countless forks of bsnes that have sought to stall bsnes at past points that were more favorable to end users by being faster and easier to use.
>Thus, the future of higan looks bleak. The project is likely to become increasingly unpopular, slower, and more difficult to use in the name of progress.
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>>3128252
too bad he cant program a good ui to save his life.
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>>3128252
Wasn't his original goal for bsnes to be the most accurate SNES emulator, which he gave up on when he found it was too hard?
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>>3128267
>programming emulator UIs
Just write a libretro core and leave the UIs to the specialists
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>>3128252
bsnes has been on life support since at least 2011 anyway. The last article like this in talked about dropping even the accuracy core in favor of "asnes" which would emulate things with such precise detail that it would literally take a supercomputer to run.
The last article stressed how proper satellaview emulation and most peripherals were lost causes, then nocash showed up with almost all of it documented and a good chunk of it emulated. If byuu wants to emulate voicer-kun he can start by reading the protocol as documented in fullsnes.
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>>3128312
>RetroArch
>UI specialists
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>>3128323
Why is there even interest in Voicer-kun? The only games that used it are Emit and Angelique and they're on various other platforms. Even for the SNES it seems like it makes more sense to implement the CDs via MSU1.
It's an interesting piece of history but there's not much lost without emulating it.
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The project started going to shit when he decided to make it a multi-system emulator. If he would have kept it as bsnes, it would have been fine.
There's no need to reinvent the wheel by emulating systems that are emulated better elsewhere in open source implementations with libretro cores.
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Don't even understand what he's trying to convey but know it will piss off ShitPusher and his drones so it's good news.
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>>3128346
It's autism. High-functioning to be sure, but still autism.
>release emulator code to the public
>"Don't use it like that!"
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I've been using Higan for years, it works fine on my i7-based PC. Never have an issue playing stuff.
Why is there drama about it? Because it doesn't play some obscure titles or something?
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Man, how melodramatic. He doesn't care about the market or the community. He doesn't want people to use his software unless it's 100% perfect. I don't particularly care for his emulator anyway, but I'll definitely avoid it at this point knowing what kind of person made it.
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>>3129885
I'd like to know what's left to emulate too. Besides the voice-kun game which as noted in this thread are also available on PS1.
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>>3128252
Should work with Mamedev
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Why does emulation have so much FUD and drama surrounding it?
I just want to play old games as close to what my brain remembers. Fuck me.
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>>3130173
It's developed by literal chuuni autists.
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The most surprising assertion in there is that the Voicer-kun CDs haven't been imaged yet.
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>>3130173
Hardcore collectors with irrational hate for emulators and turbo nerds self-flagellating over making everything perfect.
Just fire up an emulator of your choosing and a game, have fun.
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>>3130238
>emulator of your choosing
>fun
There's special place in hell for you fuckface.
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>>3130240
Boy howdy, someone has PMS.
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>>3130173
hey, turns out it's like any other drama: ignore it and do what you like.
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http://board.byuu.org/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1035
>I've been really grateful at how positive eg Reddit has been lately for me. It's really just the places I don't go that are total shitheels to me still (RHDN, 4chan, etc.)
I was probably the only one even bothering with such a useless task as to give byuu a good reputation on this board since its creation, and ouch. I still respect the guy because we think alike, but being the ignorant fuck I am, I'm probably less of a jerk.
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>>3130246
>ignore it and do what you like.
Yeah ignore progress and stick with whatever is ass-backwards and comfortable to you.
I bet you're a shithead theist.
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>>3130367
>with whatever is ass-backwards and comfortable to you.
Exactly, it's not like caring is going to help anything.
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>>3128252
>more favorable to end users by being faster and easier to use
Who would ever want such a thing!
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>>3129885
No, because it emulates everything and ZSNES users get triggered by byuu's autism that was needed to achieve that.
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>>3128352
The great debate: Who is the craziest in the emulation community ?
sp or byuu?
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>>3130240
Shiller cis-male jew worshipper detected.
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So far out of the loop here it's not even funny, but: When did byuu GPL his shit?
I remember him throwing his toys out of the playpen every time someone suggested that back in the day and some gloriously autistic rant about how evil the license was on his site.
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>>3131373
did he?
i thought he was just a huge BSDfag
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>>3131376
https://web.archive.org/web/20090304193430/http://byuu.cinnamonpirate.com/?page=articles/licensing
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>>3131383
tl;dr I want all the benefits of open code but if anyone tries to do anything I don't like I'm taking my ball and going home.
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>>3131383
don't see the problem with this rant
he's right about the GPL and how its supporters always seek to crush competition and replace them with their special snowflake shitty alternatives
just look at gmake and how there's no portable makefiles anymore
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lmao that byuu dingleberry is so retarded and crazy and stupid. Every time he writes something in public he sounds like he's writting sum postmodern novel abot emulation or some shit and is always bragging abot how good his emulator is and how it's accurate down to the nanosecod or some such bullflop. what a load of junk. I can't even get the hunk of JUNK to work on my PC and he think's it's so cool. Well to give him sum constructive critisism i would say that his emulator sucks donkey dick and it's basically the same as fugging ZSNES in 99.99% of cases, only in that one fugging game where u can't see the shadow under the helicopter which he brings up every time he types something lmao :D
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>>3131553
>I can't even get the hunk of JUNK to work on my PC
Because your PC is the hunk of junk.
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>>3131553
ZSNES barely functions on modern systems. Snes9X is probably the best SNES emulator for most people, but I like using Higan because my computer can handle it.
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>>3130364
Get rekt cuckboy.
Your god just smited you
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>>3131582
What kind of computer can't handle higan nowadays?
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>>3131373
GPL is kind of viral cancer mind you, it takes away all rights from the author. If you use any GPL code, then your own code must be GPL as well.
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>>3131591
People too cheap to buy an i5 I imagine so they gimp out on an AMD or an i3.
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>>3131606
>tfw stuck on a Intel Atom since forever
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>>3131582
Snes9x would be great if it didn't fuck file extensions every time it ran, so it's snesgt for me.
My laptop struggles to run Higan btw, but only for GBA games.
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>>3131606
I've got an Athlon 860k that runs Higan just fine. I even used to run it on an overclocked Pentium Dual Core, and that was basically just a Core 2 Duo with less L2 cache.
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Byuu is fucking insufferable.
And I acknowledge the fact that it takes a certain kind of autist to develop an emulator, which I suppose is why most emulator devs DON'T spew their fucking opinions in the same identity they release the emulators in.
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>>3131606
A 2002 android tablet can't run it.
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>>3131704
What
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>>3131606
More cores doesn't really help you run it. Single core performance is what matters for emulation.
You could probably run it on a Pentium 4.
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>>3131846
The single cores in an i7 must run it best then.
Why else do so many people whine and bitch about Higan? It's the finest program in its class, despite byuu being a little faggot.
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I've been using ZSNES 1.42 since 2005 and it never disappointed. Get fucked, byuu.
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>>3132202
>unironically using zsnes
I wish this meme would die already
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>>3128252
Speaking of forks, sure would be nice if bsnes-plus was finally updated to support msu1 resuming.
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>>3128325
>what are alternative libretro frontends like minir
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>>3131704
Wew lad
RA has nothing to do Retron 5 beyond Hyperkin illegally using code from the libretro forks.
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>>3131603
You can quarantine it in a library you reference.
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>>3128352
Why would he give a shit? He stopped caring about byuu long ago and and they maintain their own forks of bsnes anyway.
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>>3131383
The fucking salt.
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>>3128323
I think byuu's mental hang ups keep him from putting in the work needed to do much of anything new. byuu claims something is impossible and someone else pops up and does it. When he looked at it it was just too daunting for him at his energy level. You need to understand that byuu is a low energy individual. I know what that feels like since I am also a low energy individual. We just look at a huge task and say "impossible" and walk off.
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>>3135138
only the pricks do that, most others will just admit they are lazy. rather than out and out lie.
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>>3135167
I remember when my Pentium III 800mhz could run MMX2-3 without stuttering. And they didn't look any different from running on a real SNES. So what is this "accuracy" bullshit you guys are eating up anyway? Because it doesn't seem all that useful. PCSX2, PJ64 and shit are emus that need more precise accuracy.
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>>3128252
Holy shit, finally.
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>mfw using a gutted ZSNES GUI with a SNES9x emulation core
best. emulator. ever.
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>>3135170
Once you reach a compatibility threshold accuracy is useless yes.
The problem is this guy can't stand making two different emulators: a general video game player one and an archivist's emulator.
It doesn't matter if 99% of games play perfectly for this guy, even though it is for the average user, he basically wants the emulator to be accurate down to the last transistor.
Which is fine, he's the one doing the insane programming and he can have whatever standard he wants. he just doesn't understand that he's in the .01% of users that care or need that perfect level of accuracy. Especially with the hardware cost it will entail.
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